
Lovely Nicole at Crooks and Liars points us to two recent high-profile gaffes over in Pajamas Media Land. Mmmmmm. Crow. It's what's for dinner.
First up, we have this little bit of ham-handed bargain basement pseudo-Drudgery (viva Carpetbagger!):
Conservatives shoot and miss with Kerry pic
I’ll spare you the litany of links, but several of the right’s major blogs yesterday were all aflutter over a picture of John Kerry, in Iraq a couple of weeks ago, apparently sitting alone at a mess hall. The picture, as the story went, proves that Kerry’s “botched joke” has caused lingering resentment among men and women in uniform. If the troops respected Kerry, he wouldn’t have been sitting by himself at the breakfast shown in the photo.The photo, and the accompanying narrative about how the troops avoided Kerry, made the rounds by way of far-right radio-host Scott Hennen, who claims the “priceless story” was sent by “a friend of mine serving in Iraq.” (If Hennen’s name sounds familiar, it’s because he has an interesting history with the White House.)
He then sends us over to Justin Rood, who lowers the boom on this base canard:
At Hennen's site, commenter "Anthony" noted that the picture's embedded data, just a right-click away, shows the picture was taken on January 9, 2006 -- several months before Kerry botched his joke:
News accounts at the time put Kerry in England around that time -- which might explain the giant Union Jack hanging on the far wall.
Ohhhhhhh, it burns! It buuurrrrrns!! I'm sure that Michelle MalKKKin will be along any minute to decry this gross distortion of photographic evidence which clearly points to bias in, uh, what? I'm sorry, did you just say she was one of the first Pajamas Meatheads out of the gate with this story? But what about her fierce determination to arrive at the truth at any cost and her sterling record as a reliable citizen journalist? She would never distort the facts to push an agenda, would she? No, indeed, her motives are as pure as driven slush. Just as spotless as her record of accuracy. Histrionic little fishwife. But back to Carpetbagger for more Rightard Follies!
National Review’s Cliff May published this comment today from an unnamed Marine in Iraq.
[M]orale among our guys is very high. They not only believe that they are winning, but that they are winning decisively. They are stunned and dismayed by what they see in the American press, whom they almost universally view as against them. The embedded reporters are despised and distrusted. They are inflicting casualties at a rate of 20-1 and then see shit like “Are we losing in Iraq” on TV and the print media. For the most part, they are satisfied with their equipment, food and leadership. Bottom line though, and they all say this, is that there are not enough guys there to drive the final stake through the heart of the insurgency, primarily because there aren’t enough troops in-theater to shut down the borders with Iran and Syria.
In other words, here’s a Marine who, coincidentally, is repeating the exact talking points approved by the White House and supporters of the war. Sure, the Marine’s reported perspective seems completely at odds with everything we know about the crisis — indeed, it even conflicts with some of the president’s own concessions last week — but the National Review was fortunate enough to hear from a soldier willing to tell the magazine what Cliff May wanted to hear.
Except, there’s a catch. The nearly identical text from May’s NR post was part of a widely disseminated email from over a year ago. Worse, there were slight deviations in the original text in 2005, which made it difficult to confirm its authenticity.
As Justin Rood put it, “Despite a civil war and mounting body counts on all sides, the National Review folks can still find good news coming out of Iraq. Too bad it’s over a year old and of questionable provenance.”
Oops.
Lordy mercy. It's like they're not even trying anymore.
UPDATE: It appears the debate is still raging about where and when this Kerry photo was taken and we may have to fall back on the Judy Miller defense, here. (All together now, pinch your nose and whine, "When your sources are wrong, you are wrong, waaaaaaaaah!")
The real story here, of course, is the Reich Wing's gnashing and wailing and clutching at straws and taking their cues right out of the cafeteria scene in "Mean Girls". "Ooooh, look, Kerry's sitting all by himself! Nobody likes him! He must be stinky!" Nice to know that MalKKKin and cohorts are bringing us their usual brand of enlightened discourse.
But, here, in the spirit of fair play, I bring you a comparable image of Bush spending the day with the troops:

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Boy, do I ever love the tubes of the internets. And the way the “unwashed masses” of bloggers are able to catch this kind of thing.
TREX THREE IN A ROW!!!
neurophius @ 3
Tres Trex
Bravo, TRex! Really good stuff. And 3 in a row? You’re a champ.
Triple Trex Threat
It appears that there is much more evidence that the photo is authentic. Hold your nose, then see Malkin’s website for all the details.
Its possible that the camera’s internal date was incorrect, and thus it stamped the picture with an incorrect date.
neurophius @
4
By the way, I’d like to also mention that liberal blogs are starting to get stupid. Please be careful and thorough before posting shit because when you get stuff wrong, it reflects poorly on the community.
Thanks.
The fact that the Kerry pix is bogus means nothing. The fascists got their laugh of the day, they all patted themselves on the back for being real americans and that’s that. Tomorrow is a new day and it will bring another lie. But of course that doesn’t mean we let them get away with it. Thanks for countering another one, TRex
As soon as I saw that post trash talking Kerry, I knew it was bullshit. I read it right before going to bed however, so I didn’t look anything up to bust them. Luckily, others did.
HA! I love it wingnuts self-implode. So entertaining to watch.
Joe @ 10
That was darned funny!
oops…
must.not.feed.
Joe @ 8
The bottom line is that even if it is, it proves absolutely nothing about anything. There could have been five guys right there who got up to dump their trays before the photo was snapped. The Reich Wing has nothing at this point, so like drowning men, they’ll even cling to a sword.
I mean, this is inexcusable. We’ve at least got TPMMuckraker, Firedoglake, crooksandliars, 3 huge liberal organs, running with something before they are sure about it, and not only that, but laughing and pointing and carrying on and making themselves look like idiots.
Joe @ 10
I’m so glad you’re here to tell me how to do my job. Tomorrow I’m going to come to work with you and tell you how stupid you are and how much you suck, okay?
Kentucky Woman @ 13
Yes yes! That’s right… I’m a troll. Standard fucking response from dumbasses.
You want me to send you pictures of myself at the most recent fucking anti-war protest?
Fuck off
TRex @ 16
Troll alert TRex. If you feed them, they’re like baboon. They screech and howl and bite and hurl their feces. Not worth the effort.
He proves it by citing his anti-war credentials while telling another pup to fuck off. Classic
Kids, have at him.
Joe, you’re a lousy Senator.
TRex @ 16
I don’t give a shit if you’re glad or not. When David Broder says something fucking stupid, I email him telling him he’s a dumbass. When you do something stupid, I will react in a similar way.
So fuck off. And stop imitating the habits of right wing bloggers, smartass
neurophius @ 20
LOL - You could be right. Let’s see… Touts his liberal credentials while shitting all over his liberal brethren.
Sounds like a Liebertroll to me.
Joe @ 17
This one seems to have pulled a Britney and peaked early. He’ll probably change his screen name and come back.
Nate @ 18
Yes yes! Great logic there stupid ass. Anti war people never curse!
And who said wingnuts aren’t creative? It takes real flights of fantasy to claim that the sun is rising in the West tomorrow.
And even more chutzpah to claim that it always did.
And one thing that I have to admit I admire: Their reality is far more interesting than ours is.
Wingnuts, can’t live with ‘em and…uhmmm…can’t live with ‘em.
TRex @ 22
You can keep calling me a troll if you want. But smart people reading along know that you’re just trying to distract them from realizing that you have not addressed my criticism.
TRex, when are you going to start on a book?
A paragraph a day.
That’s all I’m asking for, and in 52 weeks it’ll be a book. (Because you’ll go over and over it and add to it and so on.)
Hmm? What do you say?
Doesn’t matter what the time stamp says, the flags on the wall tell the real story.
Union Jack and Portugal? This isn’t a US mess hall in Iraq.
Joe @ 17
I think I have seen that photo…you were the one dragging the protester off while fumbling for your taser, right?
btw…you wear those “Reno 911″ hot pants very well.
Margot @ 24
Let me get through the holidays here and we’ll talk. It’s a pretty daunting thing to undertake.
I am reminded of a quote from Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead:
I love the Player’s response to that though:
Mad Dogs @ 23
So that’s where the “It’s NOT a sunset… it’s a sunRISE!” confusion started!
FEEEEL the JoeMentum!
He’s a law-enforcement CHEETAH!!
They are right about the possible perspective thing with the picture as well. There’s also the fact that it looks like Kerry is turned towards someone. So something isn’t entirely right with the whole thing as it is. It could either be creatively cropped, or was timed to when he had an empty table or even the wrong date.
Mass Media is so easy to manipulate as it is. So i do like the verification and source checking that once had to be done via library 20 or so years ago. Or take really expensive subscriptions to various papers in order to get the whole picture.
Nothing really knew from the right wing. Granted, it is fun to watch. Particularly if you have a working bullshit detector. *grins*
Saturday is my friday, dammit. I can’t wait to get this time off. PAID time off at that on monday.
Kentucky Woman @
29
Yes yes! Like a typical right winger, you prefer smartass comments than honest discourse.
Jacqrat @ 25
By the way… Just how many mess halls in Iraq have an entire wait staff wearing black vest formal attire?
TRex @ 30
Rrroowwwrrrrr….
Nate @ 34
And let us not forget the lovely multi-colored chrysanthemum flower arrangements on the table-cloth covered table. No place setting in a war zone is complete without them.
Uh-oh… looks like some Nazis have decided to censor my comments.
You guys are worse than the Kossacks.
You all act like fact free right wingers.
TRex @ 16
Erm, his supervisor at Wal-Mart already did that last week.
Which is why he is now trying to land a PJ Media internship
Not doing so well here, either, eh Joe?
Joe @ 17
Umm, no thanks. I think I already have one.
Huh. I’d say you guys have the right of it. No self respecting US Armed Forces mess would have the Union Jack and Portugal’s flag in it. It goes against all the pride things that are so integral to being a soldier. They’re never without the reminder of the flag nearby in some form or another.
*settles in to watch the snark*
Other people’s comments show up right away, but I guess mine need to be examined before they are allowed to be posted.
[Mod note; yes, they do]
Nate @ 33
This definitely isn’t a Halliburton/KBR-run mess… the staff would be wearing the required Brownshirt and black armbands.
Joe @ 17
I knew it, I knew it! The Feebs are spying on us again! Who’da thought?
Joe @ 32
You wouldn’t recognize honest discourse if it bit you on the ass.
(BTW - it did)
Joe @
21
And what a charming little boy you are. You’re making your point so persuasively that I may be forced to spontaneously agree with you.
Back from surgery and overnight stay at the local hospital. Doc says the rotator cuff tear was more serious than the MRIs indicated. But he also says he was able to repair it fully. I’m looking at 3 to 5 months PT & rehab.
I watched Fox news and MSNBC a lot. We don’t get those two networks st home in our satellite package. G*d, those networks are wiorse than I expected.
Joe @ 39
Your delightful vocabulary triggered the automatic filters, but if you will refresh your browser window you will find that your insightful, exquisitely worded criticisms have been posted in the order in which they were received.
Ed*ard Teller @ 44
Umm, isn’t that sort of adding insult to injury? :)
Ed*ard Teller @ 47
Glad you’re home safe, ET. Take your medicine and rest, rest, rest. For me. Don’t make me come and stomp on your house.
What is it with self-righteous Joes, anyway?
Mack @ 46
Also, your second sentence makes no sense. You misused the word “than.” It should say “prefer smartass comments to” or “would rather make smartass comments than.” Do you even know what you meant?
English 101
Ed*ard Teller @ 44
Tore my rotator cuff once.
It was more like a year before I had full mobility. Of course I didn’t have surgery.
Learned how to throw a tennis ball under hand.
(Border Collies can’t wait months)
Hard to type clearly when the froth of self-righteous RAGE is spattered all over your screen.
TRex,
A perfect little gem of a description.
TRex @
47
Intelligent people don’t need to be “babied” before they’ll accept facts. If I yell “the earth is not flat you fucking moron” will you disagree with me because I hurt your feelings?
SusanD @ 55
*bows deeply*
I spent a few minutes on that one.
I didn’t believe that “right winger” and “smartass comments” belonged in the same sentence. Name calling, clubbing, and dragging back to the cave, yes, but not “smartass comments”.
Our closet winger needs to brush up on his dirty f’ing hippie skills.
In answer to your query regarding the picture of Kerry. He is not a viable candidate for ‘08 as far as I am concerned, but, if it makes you feel good to focus your energies on who sits at Mr. Kerry’s lunch table, well, someone has to.
ET, Welcome back! It’s wonderful what they can repair these days.
When I was in the hospital, they didn’t have the Comedey Channel. No Jon Stewart! But my roomie was fortunately not a Fox Freak.
The Copy Desk @ 53
Yes Yes! Nice tactic! Redirect focus from the substantive to the trival, like a typical goddamned right wing asshat.
You call yourself “liberals”?
Rahr!! And heh.
Hit him again, Kentucky!
Hit-!
Uh, hey. Where’d the little browshirt go?
TRex @
30
TRex, you’ve more talent in your little finger than most of the published political authors wish they had in total. Don’t think about the whole pie. Think about the concept, then take on one slice at a time. One way to do it is to just pick a theme and write a blurb—of any length—on the theme once a day. Or write on the theme one hour a day, every day. You’ll have an editable book in no time and you won’t have to sweat the Big Picture. We could be placing our orders for next Christmas…and you could be cashing that first check in January…
ET
If it were not for FoxNews and CNN we would have a much less complete picture of that complicated situation at Duke.
It takes hours to gain a full understanding of the intricacies of drunken college boys alone with an exotic dancer.
TRex @ 57
Ned the Fightin’ Koi ain’t none to pleased with ya’ however. Ya’ promised him a blonde.
Kentucky Woman @ 58
Yes yes! I knew it was coming! Just like a right winger, you really kicked the shit out of a strawman! Nice job.
Surely, you know very well that I couldn’t possibly care less who sits at Kerry’s lunch table.
You know perfectly well that my beef is with liberal bloggers who post factually incorrect things, thus reflecting poorly on the liberal community of which I am a part.
TRex @ 59
Over at Hannidate finding him a woman.
Mr. Teller, well done. PT is a bitch but you’ll be ready to throw by spring training, right?
Bloody hell, I’m starving. I’ve been a total otaku today. I ate cold pizza from last night and an apple. I’m running on strong coffee, cigarettes, and advil. I should go to the grocery store.
Margot @
60
The hospital listed the comedy channel, but when I scrolled to it, an inane shopping network came up.
Like official government reports on global warming, all of my comments must be preapproved by the political arbiters before being seen.
Oh, look! Our troll is back like a cold sore.
Do you make an ass of yourself everywhere you go, Joe? Or are you being a dickhead special just for us?
The only thing worse than right wing scum are liberals who imitate them.
Oh, the compassion! I love it when they care so deeply about us. Makes me all warm inside. Like when I’m sipping a nice dry Chardonnay to wash down the brie while driving up the coast in my Volvo. Lovely this time of year, eh? Did you bring the snowboards?
Joe @ 64
Speaking of things that reflect poorly on people:
“Fuck off”
–”Joe” at 17 above
Mack @
52
Nature or nurture? It’s an age-old question. Could be genetic, or at the very least highly contagious.
How interesting. This site has a very similar, but different photo, of Kerry at that location. Whatever it is. The file name is Kerry2.jpg at that site, but it’s Kerry11.jpg at areavoices.
In one, Kerry looks up, in the other he’s looking down. There are uniformed waiters in both, which screams to to that something is very wrong with the story being told with these photos.
Are y’all tired of him, yet? Shall I hand him over to the mercy of the moderators?
Joe @ 63
Yes, the fact that you have to keep saying that you are a member in good standing of the liberal community is much more convincing than the (frankly, highly embarrassing) behaviour you’re displaying here, which is completely contradictory to your claims.
By the way, I’m a billionaire. It’s true because I said it.
I’ve an announcement to make to Late Night:
Today was my last radiation treatment! It was a tough eight weeks but damn, it’s over. Got through it strong and only lost about 16 pounds. Onward!
Ok lets look at that picture even if it is true… I have been in military mess’s in Germany, Italy, Greece, Turkey and multiple in the USA….. I have NEVER seen a union jack in a US military mess. Also I cannot imagine red table cloths and flowers on tables in a war zone.
I have not been in Iraq but I did see Iraq for Sale which showed scenes of the mess lines and dinning facilities. Of course, it could be the Officers Mess which would be different.
1. Claimed to be breakfast
2. Soldiers are out on patrol, not hanging around the mess
3. Mess times are scheduled and limited due to KBR requirements
4. It sure looks like Kerry is looking at someone or think just outside of the photo frame
5. Who gives a flying fig…..
Yay, marksb! I’m so glad to hear those treatments are done. You’ve been missed! {{hugs}}
3 huge liberal organs,
marksb @
68
I don’t know how long the rehab will go, but I’d love to learn how to throw like TRex.
Percocet kicking in. I think I’ll sit down and catch up on the REAL news….
TRex @ 78
Oh, but this is so much fun!
marksb @ 76
Congratulations!! My prayers for your health and continued recovery.
And on that note, Joe has now been banned. We gave him a chance to make his point and he just kept saying that we were as bad as right-wingers over and over and over. He grew tiresome.
Away, Joe! Away with you! Go stink up a thread over at Kos.
Somebody open a window in here. Phew!
I’m going to go rustle up some groceries. I’ll be back in a bit.
Joe @ 71
Project much?
TeddySanFran @ 79
Oh, I couldn’t possibly…
katymine @ 81
The flying fig did it for me. Everyone knows the US don’t allow no flying figs in the mess. Strictly hetero only.
Yeah, Teddy, I was wondering about that. I was only gifted with one of those. Damn. Probably get in the way though.
Good to have ET back, and marksb, it is great to hear you have finished your treatments.
Don’t ask, don’t decorate.
T-Rex, this is hilarious. A troll like this one adds spice, gratuitous profanity as a substitute for actual thought, and a foil for good writing about what is wrong with the hate culture on the right. Thanks for letting him bleat away about how terrible liberal blogs are.
ET… had the rotator cuff repair in 87 (yep I am that old) and PT right away is a must and do the exercises too. Scar tissue builds up if you do not work at it in the first 6-8 weeks.
Marksb…. Congrats…. I am so glad you completed your treatment.
Joe @ 71
Have any of you noticed how this little blog parasite won’t address any of the items pointed out with this photo? He just flails his arms, whining endlessly.
What Joe, no insight as to why the wait staff of this “mess hall” are tuxedoed? Why this Iraqi “mess hall” has flower arrangements and table cloths with lovely decorations and appointments around the room?
I mean, look, there’s bits of scrambled egg on the tabletop next to Kerry. There was someone just there. I DEMAND A RETRACTION!!
Wow! looks like Billmon took his entire site down!
OldCoastie @ 93
Shit.
That’s not cool.
Sigh.
OldCoastie @ 91
I blame Joe
Okay, groceries. Here I go. Don’t try and stop me! I’m a ball of fire! Yeeee-haw! Kroger, here I come!
Shit.
Still sitting here.