(Photo of Rep. Dan Burton via Salon.)
The next time some reporter unquestioningly writes up some dreck that spews forth from the mouth of Mark Corallo or Barbara Comstock -- I want you to write that reporter with two words: Dan Burton. Because both Comstock and Corallo learned their stock in trade of smarm and smear and manipulative slimeball tactics at the knee of Rep. Burton back in the good old days of Republican payback against the Clintons.
Each and every time I pick up an article on potential Democratic Congressional oversight and I read some form of whining from a Republican about how mean the Dems will be in demanding some form of accountability or responsibility for the mess that the Bush Administration and the rubber stamp Republican Congress have made of this nation of ours, I think to myself: Dan Burton.
As chairman of the House Government and Reform Committee, Burton turned his panel into a one-stop shop for Clinton haters, mounting investigation after investigation at taxpayer expense. He may be best known for shooting at a "headlike thing" in his backyard in order to prove a crackpot theory that White House aide Vince Foster was murdered. In April 1998, Burton railed against Clinton to the Indianapolis Star: "If I could prove 10 percent of what I believe happened, he'd [Clinton] be gone. This guy's a scumbag. That's why I'm after him."And he went after Clinton with a vengeance, hammering away at charges of campaign finance violations and other alleged ethical abuses. He once wrote a letter to ask the president whether taxpayer money was being used to underwrite the expense of mailings for a fan club for first feline Socks. He released transcripts of the prison conversations of former Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell but edited them to remove comments that seemed to exonerate Hillary Rodham Clinton -- an act that earned him condemnation from Congress. He was later forced to apologize on the House floor....
This Salon article goes on to detail some personal issues that Burton had of his own, and of the genesis of the ethics armistice that these problems helped to broker between Hastert and Gephardt back in the day. But it is Burton's penchant for investigative zeal about things as unimportant as the Socks Fan Club fan mail postage that truly ought to give reporters a bit of pause -- and some much needed perspective -- when Republicans whine and try to cry "wolf" over legitimate oversight that Democrats ought to begin in January.
In the fall of 1994, Gingrich could barely contain his excitement about the prospects of a GOP Congress. In remarks to a group of lobbyists (later leaked), Gingrich crowed that "Washington just can't imagine a world in which Republicans would have subpoena power." True to Gingrich's word, the following year the GOP in effect laid a siege-by-subpoena upon the White House. But Gingrich's world wasn't so wonderful: Republicans throughout Congress pushed anti-Clinton charges flimsy enough to embarrass a Soviet-bloc secret police agent. In the Senate, Al D'Amato conducted dozens of Whitewater hearings that flopped badly and contributed to his 1998 defeat by Chuck Schumer.Most memorable, however, was the famously unhinged chairman of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, Indiana Republican Dan Burton. During his tenure, Burton issued more than 1,000 subpoenas to 141 different Clintonites. His inquiries included ten days of hearings on whether the White House used its Christmas card list for political purposes. In one case, Burton's investigators managed to subpoena the wrong man. His low point came in 1998, when Burton released misleadingly edited transcripts of secretly recorded phone conversations conducted in prison by former Clinton associate Webb Hubbell. Burton apologized, and his notorious lead investigator, David Bossie, resigned; but, by then, fellow Republicans were furious over the damage Burton had done to his own party. "There were a lot of self-inflicted wounds," one Republican fumed to The Washington Post.
Burton wasn't alone. In 1997, Republican Representative Gerald Solomon of New York notified the FBI that Democratic National Committee fund-raiser John Huang may have sold U.S. secrets to the Chinese, prompting an FBI investigation and wide press coverage. Two years later, FBI files released to Congress showed that Solomon's charge had been based on a cocktail-party conversation with a Senate staffer who claimed to have heard the scoop from an unnamed employee of the Commerce Department, where Huang had worked. Solomon couldn't remember his source's name--only that he was "a male in his thirties or early forties, approximately five feet ten inches tall with brownish hair." (That narrowed things down to roughly half the federal government's employees.) As Henry Waxman, currently the ranking Democrat on the House Reform Committee, put it at an American University forum last month, "That's the climate we were in then: Even cocktail-party gossip could launch major congressional and criminal investigations of the Democratic Clinton administration."
As Karen Tumulty of Time recently pointed out, Rep. Henry Waxman puts things into perspective rather nicely in terms of what is and is not important to the Republican party in terms of oversight:
Then Chairman Dan Burton–who famously re-enacted the suicide of Clinton deputy White House counsel Vince Foster by shooting at what he called a "head-like thing" (later widely reported to be a melon) in his backyard–issued 1,089 such unilateral subpoenas in six years. Since a Republican entered the White House, the G.O.P. Congress has been far less enthusiastic in its oversight. Waxman likes to point out that the House took 140 hours of sworn testimony to get to the bottom of whether Clinton had misused the White House Christmas-card list for political purposes, but only 12 hours on prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib.
But, thankfully, Waxman is no Dan Burton. And neither, it seems, are any of the other grown-up Democrats who will be taking the reins come January. Payback is not a sufficient means for demanding oversight -- in the short term it gets you headlines, but over the long run you build up scorn and a public need for rebuke, which we saw in the last election cycle in a whole lot of districts.
This is about to be a whole new game inside the Beltway, and the press had better get used to it -- because the Congress is about to start doing its job once again, and not simply rolling over and acting like a parliamentary rubber stamp for George Bush and his malignant pack of greedy cronies. Via TNR:
Waxman, who hounded the Reagan and first Bush White Houses as chairman of a subcommittee on health and the environment, now finds himself in the same place as did Dan Burton in 1994. Over the past few years, he has sought--and been denied--investigations into whether the administration possibly condoned detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib or Guantánamo Bay, tightened executive-branch secrecy, permitted the politicization of science, and bungled pre-war WMD intelligence. But now, after six years of being sidelined, Waxman suddenly looms as one of the Democrats' most important figures. As chairman of the Government Reform Committee, traditionally a lead investigative committee, he'd be sure to run some of a House Democratic majority's most dramatic and news-making hearings.Waxman is surely just as giddy as Burton was to be taking the reins of power, newly able to make any member of the opposing party answer his beck and call. (In a potentially bitter irony for the GOP, Waxman says he'll retain an enhanced subpoena power that Republicans granted to Burton over Democratic objections--even though Waxman insists the use of subpoenas is a last resort.) But it's obvious that he has learned well from the countless pratfalls of the Gingrich Republicans. "In 1994, it was clear that Newt Gingrich had the intention of payback. I think the Republicans have given us a very good example over the past twelve years of how not to behave, and we ought to learn from that," Waxman explains, sitting in his Capitol Hill office in a maroon sweater.
Waxman's careful study of the GOP's overreach during the Clinton years is not the only reason that Republicans should be afraid. Though he represents a California district that includes West Hollywood's Chateau Marmont and Malibu Beach, Waxman--with his bald, oval head, large ears, and glasses--is anything but a shoot-from-the-hip proxy for buffoonish Hollywood celebrities. "He's not a hack. He's really well-respected in the caucus," says a House Democratic leadership aide. "Henry is a great prosecutor," says New Jersey Democrat Rob Andrews. (Democrats particularly respect Waxman's staff, led by his hard-driven chief of staff, Phil Schiliro, who retains a near-encyclopedic memory of Burton's foibles.)
When it comes to specific plans, Waxman is more coy than the verbose Dingell. "One of my priorities will be to pursue waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayers' money," he explains, citing Hurricane Katrina, homeland security, and Iraq as potential examples. What remains unclear is how intensely Democrats like Waxman intend to pursue the politics of the Iraq war. Hard-core Democrats would surely love nothing more than to see Donald Rumsfeld, Doug Feith, and Paul Wolfowitz sweating under the klieg lights as they explain the basis of their case for war. Waxman seems to shy away from the idea of reliving the fall of 2002 and spring of 2003. "That would have been an appropriate hearing to have," he says, conspicuously employing the past tense. "I think the manipulation of intelligence with the war was a very serious matter that should have been pursued in open hearings." Does that mean the moment for such hearings has passed? "I don't know what the issues will be," Waxman explains with a smile.
There has been article after article in recent days discussing potential areas of oversight. The WaPo has one today on Biden and Skelton and other Dems who will be holding hearing after hearing on the mess that is Iraq, the potential for escalation there and the over-use of the US military and our pathetic excuse for a lack of foreign policy. And that's just for starters. I know that Biden isn't exactly a favorite, and in all likelihood he's positioning himself at this point for the cameras for a Presidential run in 2008 -- but whatever his motivation, he has selected an issue that sorely needs some sunlight and oversight and I, for one, applaud him for it along with every other Democrat who is willing to stand up and do their Constitutional duty of providing both a check and a balance to the Bush train wreck.
Wake up, Washington. It's almost January. The restoration of the rule of law and the Constitutional obligations of the Congress to provide a check and balance to this overgrown shrub of a President is long overdue. Study your history, people of the media, and gain some perspective from reading up on Dan Burton.
A man who would investigate a cat fan club provides a stark contrast to the seriousness of oversight that is genuinely needed on a whole host of issues: war profiteering, misuse of public funds with close to 50% of the Department of Homeland Security's budget unaccounted for (more on that soon), dropping the ball on the Israeli/Palestinian negotiations altogether, AIDS, poverty, FEMA, and on and on and on...and that doesn't even get to the looming deficits, the pork barrel extravaganzas or any of the other messes created by the Republican Congress and this President.
Makes that whole "Socks the Cat"-gate seem a little catty, now doesn't it?
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omg ! the zed, on a sneak blog from work
mad progressive love to all you hippies !
Yay, cbl — congrats to you on the zed. *g*
Dan Burton, Tom DeLay and Newt Gingrich. Gawd.
‘case it got missed on the previous thread, Edwards just declared for ‘08.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16371206/
Where’s Gore?
Wow. The contrast between Burton and Waxman is stunning. Great piece, Christy.
I know a woman (THE? woman) with whom Burton had an affair.
Blub at 5 — my theory? Gore is running a sort of “un-campaign” at the moment. Not really running, but not ruling it out. Could jump in if he sees that the water looks good — but not saying that he will. It’s coy — but intriguing.
Edwards ‘declares’. All right! Can I begin to pummel Hillary now?
Very nice piece.
btw, did you know Waxman links to a Time article on his official website that describes himself as “The Scariest Guy in Town”?
http://www.henrywaxman.house.g......27.06.pdf
He’s preparing for war.
Christy: in teh short term it gets you headlines
Never quite sure when “teh” is a valid definite article, but this doesn’t seem like one of them.
Cujo at 11 — I spotted it already and fixed it. Hate it when I only spot the typo once it hits the front page. Gah!
Blub at 10 — Yeah, that’s the Tumulty article I link to and quote from above. It’s a great piece — and Waxman comes off as disgusted by the mess that the GOP has left for him and the rest of the Dems to clean up.
BWAAHAAAhaaahaaaaaa.
It’s taking every ounce of principle in my body to eschew revenge. Can we call it “oversight” and have it be revenge ?
As James Brown (RIP) said in “The Big Payback”:
“I want revenge !”
“I want some get-back !”
Then I think he asked Maceo to come blow his horn (”but don’t blow no trash !”)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 9
Saw Edwards on Hardball last night, and was mightily impressed.
As for Hillary-pummeling, ummm, haven’t we got that going yet?
(I mean, I’d be happy to start, just to be helpful, ya know).
Nice post Christy.
Yes, Waxman is a grownup, cuz we is the “Mommy party”. The republicans used to be the “Daddy party” but are now the “spoiled little boys with behavior issues party”
Dems is the onlyest grownups inside the Beltway
scarecrow @ 6
Isn’t it, though? I used to see Henry Waxman in synagogue, and I’d pray facing him.
Can you imagine if some Democratic bigwig had a woman on his payroll who appeared at the door of her ranch house wearing only a teddy?
(Say, that’s a job I’m well-qualified for!)
No, just imagine it! How long do you suppose the poor sucker would last?
I like Edwards. I voted for him in The Iowa Caucuses in ‘04 and like the organization he has built.
p.s. I voted for Nixon in 1972 so what do I know?
Blub @ 5
First off, it’s good news that Edwards has entered the race. He’s improved the field by joining it.
As for Gore, I think there’s wisdom in delaying a decision like that until you have to make it. Gore has enough name recognition, and probably still has substantial support within the party. He has less incentive to enter quickly than Edwards and some of the lesser-known candidates do. I’d guess that he, Hillary Clinton, and Kerry will be the last to announce, if they decide to.
Now, as for history, there’s a very long article up at Consortium News about the right wing’s best friend ever.
This is a very long article, in several parts, but well worth the read. Pulls together nicely the highlights of thirty years of the Rev. Moon’s activities, and how he’s bought a significant share of the Republican slime machine.
Jim Clausen @ 19
That it’s possible to make really bad choices and learn from them?
jayt @ 16
As to the Senator from NY, I may have mentioned her once or twice :) but as to pummeling her? I have not yet begun to pummel.
Jim Clausen @ 19
Perhaps you were swayed by his campaign slogan:
Don’t change Dicks in the middle of a screw
Vote for Nixon in ‘72
Obamamania is the best thing to happen to the Edward compaign– makes him look positively qualified.
1,377 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Christy Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
Does anyone out there know if the Democrats can investigate the Office of Homeland Security frauds under the aegis of another committee other than the one Joe Likuderman chairs? I hope the Democratic Senate leadership has enough procedural smarts (callin’ Senator Byrd) to sidestep this Quisling bastard.
I’m really worried about the potential for a fascist “doomsday” trick in the Senate before the session gets underway.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T TAKE ANYMORE SHIT FROM ANY OF ‘EM…ESPECIALLY NOT YER IN-LAWS!!
He once wrote a letter to ask the president whether taxpayer money was being used to underwrite the expense of mailings for a fan club for first feline Socks.
Of course, he’s perfectly okay with taxpayers picking up the tab for a vanity website - and not just any el-cheapo vanity website, an official .gov vanity website - for Bush’s dog.
Riesz Fischer @ 24
What do I know? I turned 18 2 weeks before and had draft lottery of 64 for Nam.
May MSM give a lot of time to the words of Kucinich and Edwards. (yea right)
OK Kiddo - Your horse left the gate a long time ago…)
Jim Clausen @ 27
Some argue that the reason Nixon wanted to end the draft was to capture the draft age group. Think that’s true, knowing Dick the Trick?
Jim Clausen: What do I know? I turned 18 2 weeks before and had draft lottery of 64 for Nam.
Harsh. Did you get called?
(I think my number was 105, and I didn’t have to go.)
Thanks, all — I tire of the whining about the mean old Democrats asking pesky questions of the poor, long-suffering President and hurting people’s feelings in the process. Hello. You work for us in the government. Answer the questions, provide some accountability or get the hell out. Period.
And allowing people to get away with whining without putting this into some perspective for readers? Laziness on the part of people writing up the stories. And I will no longer let it pass unchallenged.
Here’s a nice link to our next president…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&eurl=
Back on track…
Christy, I’ve got a lot of Irish, and I do grudge quite well. I remember every scumbag thing on your list and more.
I was not, and am not a Clinton fan, but I do have a sense of fair play. Jesus, they never gave him a break.
I am also a fan of sinking two balls with one cue stroke. If we can get justice and payback…
FREAKIN’ PERFECT!!!!
Thanks Christy for the great feature on Waxman.
Edwards announcing now is great news. It now sets a (sub)standard level of oxygen to be consumed by the other two. He’s a better candidate than he was a couple of years ago.
Oklahoma kiddo @
9
Been at it myself ever since she helped sabotage Edwards in 04.
Come on in, the water’s fine!
1:46pm @31
“And I will no longer let it pass unchallenged.”
No one could, or should ask for more! ;)
You’re doing the heavy lifting. And I thank you.
diogenes @ 34
Hillary supported the invasion of Iraq steadily, from the beginning. I think we should repeat that over and over:
Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq Hillary Iraq
1,377 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen oklahoma kiddo:
You’ve already got the anti-Hilary tsunami rollin’ brother…Mrs. Coporate Consolidation Clinton’s negatives among the Democratic base are so big that I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if she switches parties and runs with Likuderman on a national unity ticket.
She’s not gunna be seen close ta any of the investigations of Clusterfuck and her vote and continued support for the war make her toast in the Democratic Party.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T LET ‘EM UP FOR BREATH!!
I met Waxman, once, an unmemorable meeting for him, I’m sure, but for me a big deal. I was taking some things to Howard Berman’s office in WeHo and waiting from some things to take back regarding the ’80’s redistricting in CA. As I sat and cooled my heels I was treated to some very colorful language from the Berman brothers (Howard’s bro, Ari (I think) was a Dem consultant)and Waxman discussing local pols. Waxman didn’t say much - how could he with the Bermans talking non-stop? - amd I remember thinking he was not so impressive.
I will gladly eat my words now.
diogenes @ 34
OK. Don’t mind if I do. ;)
Kinda on topic. Sorry, kinda long
The Saga of the Whos and the Grinch in the White House
More if you click above
My very nice, otherwise reasonable (talented artist, too) Republican mother-in-law likes Edwards but is head-over-heels for Obama. This bodes well for our future gatherings.
I’m embarrassed that the jagoff in the picture is my congressman.
montag @ 21
Moon has always been an opportunistic character, though I had no idea …
Conservatives I worked with couldn’t believe that the Washington Times was a Moonie operation. It ran counter to their whole view of what he was. I think this article sums up pretty well why they had such a hard time believing it.
a mea culpa,
IMV, there is only ONE qualification for our next president - are they progressive?
If so, I don’t care if they are a three-eyed Martian - I’m supporting them.
If not, well then, frankly, I don’t give a damn.
Twisted Martini @ 41
He should be embarrassed that he’s your congressman. You deserve better!
Eureka Springs, AR @ 28
I know. I didn’t think anyone knew it though. ;)
How about the Jr Senator from NY decides to NOT run and donates the $warchest$ (what, $20 mil?) to the National Dem Committee?
Or some other worthy cause?
No? Oh well. I tried.
Pummel? Carry on.
It was also Dan Burton who inserted the language in the middle of the night ending the term of the Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (Russ Feingold just got it nixed and the IG’s office won’t close). He’s a poster boy for GOP corruption from the get.
Blank Kludge @ 46
It would be nice to have some kind of unity for the future rather than have them dragging us down with their infighting.
Would she be happy as VP?
It’s nice to see some coverage on Waxman, but I with the TNR piece hadn’t used so much space talking about his appearance.
Much of it was just stereotyping anyway like one of the liberal characters in a Tom Tomorrow cartoon. Waxman is a sweater-wearing liberal with Hollywood values. They had to sneak that stuff in there so we would know what pre-formed category to stick him in.
It’s also interesting to note that the media had very little to do with discrediting the Dan Burton investigations. They could have stopped him by ridiculing him for issuing all those nonsense subpoenas.
Instead they reported on all of them like they were part of legitimate scandals. The press only looks at them suspiciously in retrospect. At the time ginned up nonsense was all red meat for the press. There’s no way Burton ever should have gotten to 1000 let alone 100 when it was so obvious he was only using them to smear the Clinton administration.
The demise of the Washington Star, DC’s afternoon paper (Even the adventures of Sam and Janet Evening couldn’t save it) made room for the Washington Times. Wonder if Moon had anything to do with hastening it along?
Mommybrain @ 50
I had a Washington Star paper route. (That was a few years ago.)
and
I’ve given up on intelligence in the media. We’ll get the occasional insightful report in a paper here and there, with the editor’s forced ‘fairness’ from the Republican side, but unless it’s sexy or simple we won’t see it in mass media. Doesn’t sell ads. God I feel cynical.
I think if Hillary Clinton were to remove herself from the race for prez., she could have enormous and gratifying influence on Democratic aspirations for the WH, etc., and help win in 2008. This Senator would, I believe, as a result, become perhaps THE states-person of the Democratic party. And the Senator could name her appointment in a new Democratic administration. But I question whether her ego will let her make the sacrifice.
Much of it was just stereotyping anyway like one of the liberal characters in a Tom Tomorrow cartoon. Waxman is a sweater-wearing liberal with Hollywood values. They had to sneak that stuff in there so we would know what pre-formed category to stick him in.
They stereotyped his district also: it includes both rural areas and industrial areas in the San Fernando valley, and a lot of people who are plain ordinary working folks (probably most of his constituents, if the media ever bothered to look).
Christy Hardin Smith @
12
Christy - here’s another correction:
But it is Burton’s
penchentpenchant for investigative zealSpeaking of which, has anybody actually read Homeland Sec’s last audit letter (courtesy of the IG’s office)?
“For the third year, KPMG was unable to provide an opinion on the department’s balance sheet, and the number of material weaknesses remains at 10. KPMG was unable to express an opinion on the department’s balance sheets as of September 30, 2006 and 2005, and on the statement of custodial activity for the year ended September 30, 2006. The disclaimer of opinion was due primarily to financial reporting problems at 4 bureaus and at the department level. The FY 2006 auditors’ report discusses 10 material weaknesses, 2 other reportable conditions in internal control, and instances of non-compliance with 8 laws and regulations”
That’s an actual quote. In the corporate world, when you have an audit letter that reads like that, it usually means your CFO’s on his way to Danbury… the two constants of the MBA presidency: mismanagement and mendacity.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 26
I dislike intensely supporting a candidate for the the Democratic presidential nomination for 2008 who continues to support American military presence in Iraq. That is, the Bush Iraq war.
Cujo359 @
11
It is never a valid definite article.
PJ, most of Los Angeles is made up of ordinary working folks, something people who don’t live here seem at a loss to understand. I am so sick of the Hollywood stereotype being applied to everyone who lives here by yahoos who don’t, aren’t you?
Blub at 58 — I’ve read it. And we will have something coming up on it soon. Appalling does not even get it started…
Jane Hamsher @
49
This is, to me, stunning news and certainly worth investigation by the newly empowered Ethics Committee. I also wonder if the Ethics Committee will recommend censure of Congressman Not-so-Goode for his hateful comments about Congressman-elect Ellison, immigration, and Virgil’s dreams of a 21st century White America.
…oh, and:
Troops
Home
NOW
Wouldn’t that be the job of Senator Lieberman? At least to delegate investigative authority?
Mommybrain @ 61
You have that one right! I’ll admit to knowing some people in Malibu, but they’re family and not ’stars’.
Did you get thunderstorms in the way-too-early hours this morning? A lot of people on the train were waying that the noise woke them up. Not a lot of rain: the giant reeds in the river weren’t flattened at all, and Arroyo Seco wasn’t up at its mouth.
White House to Joe Biden: Hold Your Horses on Rejecting Iraq Troop Surge
By E&P Staff
Published: December 27, 2006 2:30 PM ET
http://www.editorandpublisher......1003525414
I want out of Iraq now. And lots of accountability.
Jane Hamsher @
49
Love to see Danny boy profiting from one of the outfits that should be under scrutiny…
Dan Burton must be a Moony plant. /snark (maybe)
Thanks for the link montag.
Blub @ 58
Blub -
As I peruse the actual quote you provided, it’s easy for me to see that issuing an unqualified opinion was out of the question; issuing a qualified opinion was very likely out of the question because of the existence of several material internal control weaknesses. It appears that KPMG made the right choice in disclaiming an opinion, although a strong argument could be made in favor of issuing an adverse opinion on the fair presentation of the aforementioned financial statements in conformity with generally accepted accounting principles, which in this case most likely appear in the Government Accountability Office’s Yellow Book.
Is a statement of custodial activity a euphemism for a statement of revenue and expenses maintained on the accrual basis?
P J Evans @ 63
I’m down south from you guys, but the wind is fierce here. The cats think its WWIII and keep pawing open the fireplace because the wind is whistling through it. So, I have four ashy mildly freaked-out cats to take care of, in addition to the tamagotchi my youngest daughter left behind (tragedy!) when she went to visit her dad for the week. I think I am a responsibility junkie.
PJ, I’m in Nebraska right now but our house probably had some rain. We live in the San Gabriel foothills, in Monrovia. You Pasadena? The last few times we’ve had really big rain in LA, the river has been a freight train.
We’re anticipating a big snow storm on Friday, so my poor, snow-deprived son is very excited at the prospect of snowball fights, snow angels and snowmen.
Bob Dole on Hardball sure looks gaunt. Is he fighting an illness?
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 68
Sorry for being so obtuse, but does all this mean that the DHS did such a lousy job of record keeping that it’s not possible to do a proper audit?
Great! I’m looking forward to seeing it. I’m not sure how much most voters are able to digest things like audit reports, so it’s always good to have their meaning explained. Some of KPMG’s report disclosed some of the most disgusting and feckless acts of misgovernance I have ever seen, and that includes work that I had the misfortune to be involved with over the carcasses of Enron and WCOM.
With regard to earlier questions about oversight responsibility, would another oversight committee be able to investigate DHS without waiting futilely for sequential referral from Lieberman’s committee? I thought they could, but I’ve always been a bit cloudy about seqref procedure. And are we sure that Lieberman’s has jurisdiction in the first place?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 62
Cujo359 @ 74:
That’s what it looks like to me. It looks like the kind of statement that auditors put out just before the company reveals that they’re in Big Trouble finanically.
Mommybrain:
I used to live in East Pasadena, but now I live in Chatsworth and work downtown. (So glad we have trains.) Right now it’s raining hard in the San Fernando area, in the Yucaipa area, and west of Santa Barbara, according to the yellow areas on the radar map, and the report is the wind is blowing hard in Long Beach (and probably in Chatsworth too).
I’m hopeful that being in the minority make Danny B retire.
Everyone -
Please forgive this momentary digression. When time permits, please read Marcy’s two most recent posts: http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/
Jane Hamsher @ 49
wow, Jane– I missed that revelation!
what a turd.
Cujo359 @ 74
blockquote>
Sorry for being so obtuse, but does all this mean that the DHS did such a lousy job of record keeping that it’s not possible to do a proper audit?
In a world, yes, but it’s actually a lot worse than that.. in my experience language this bad usually results from a negotiated position with an audit client against the alternative of issuing an adverse opinion… which could (and, if this was a publicly traded company, probably) mean(s) that there’s a strong hint or suspicion of criminal activity.
Stephen, my understanding of the term “custodial activity” is a required disclosure with respect to non-exchange revenue collection (SFFAC #2) such as taxes, mandated fees, fines, etc.
Blub @ 78
In a world, yes, but it’s actually a lot worse than that.. in my experience language this bad usually results from a negotiated position with an audit client against the alternative of issuing an adverse opinion… which could (and, if this was a publicly traded company, probably) mean(s) that there’s a strong hint or suspicion of criminal activity.
Stephen, my understanding of the term “custodial activity” is a required disclosure with respect to non-exchange revenue collection (SFFAC #2) such as taxes, mandated fees, fines, etc.
In other words it mirrors the rest of this administration;
FUBAR.
Congress should make DHS comply with Sarbanes-Oxley in terms of accounting and finances.
Blub @ 78
Ah, I understand. It wouldn’t surprise me at all that this was the case. Government contractors don’t get their contracts renewed by making disparaging reports about the agencies they’re working for. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Cujo359 @ 2:44 pm -
No, I don’t think you’re being obtuse at all. To answer your question in a word, the answer is yes, although without knowing more than I know now, it’s not easy for me to say whether a disclaimer of opinion or an adverse opinion would have been worse.
P J Evans @ 2:50 pm -
You may be thinking of a paragraph occasionally appearing in an audit opinion that expresses doubts as to whether the entity being audited can continue functioning as a going concern.
Twisted Martini @ 80
At least in the DoD, there are some pretty strict rules about accounting practices already. Why they aren’t being followed in Iraq or at DHS by now is a bit of a mystery. I’m sure this mystery will be cleared up soon. ;-)
Blub @ 80
In a world, yes, but it’s actually a lot worse than that.. in my experience language this bad usually results from a negotiated position with an audit client against the alternative of issuing an adverse opinion… which could (and, if this was a publicly traded company, probably) mean(s) that there’s a strong hint or suspicion of criminal activity.
Stephen, my understanding of the term “custodial activity” is a required disclosure with respect to non-exchange revenue collection (SFFAC #2) such as taxes, mandated fees, fines, etc.
Thank you for what you mentioned about custodial activity. Many years have elapsed since I have done any municipal or governmental audits. So in this case, is a statement of custodial activity part of the financial statement notes or does it appear elsewhere in the financial statements?
You know, the audit process discussion is fascinating. So great that we have folks with the financial background on here to be able to talk shop. Love it.
Cujo359 @ 85
If I’m not mistaken, Sarbanes-Oxley doesn’t apply to governmental entities or agencies. While Sarbanes-Oxley normally applies to publicly traded companies, its influence appears to extend beyond publicly traded companies to reach nonpublicly traded audit clients of CPA firms.
By the sounds of the conversations concerning the reports, I get the feeling that I should sell all of my DHS stock and buy HHS instead.
emptywheel’s selection of “one of the key pictures of the Iraq war”
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 84
I only have to account for plumbing in my working time (as in ‘how much pipe did you put in?’ and ‘where exactly did you put it, so we can find it in a hurry?’). But even I can see that that kind of statement is saying ‘trouble is buried here’.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 88
I don’t believe they do, either, though I’m obviously not an accountant. Some of the rules of S-O seem to be like those we worked under at the DoD agencies I worked for. There are extensive documentation requirements showing where the money goes, basically. Any purchase over a certain amount (a small amount, BTW) has to have been properly researched and that research documented (IOW, you have to prove you were a smart shopper). Property purchased for the governments is subject to audits, as well. Employee hours are subject to similar scrutiny.
I’m sure there are ways to scam this system, but I think there’d have to be quite a few people at various levels of the government and the contractor(s) involved in the scam.
I think that’s why S-O wasn’t applied to government procedures. The Federal Acquisition Regs (FARs), which are what we and every other government contractor are (supposed to be?) subject to, seem to cover most of that ground already.
UPDATE: I’ll just add a disclaimer that I’m by no means an expert on FARs or their implications. I just know what we had to do to conform to our agencies’ interpretation of those regs.
Christy Hardin Smith @
87
Christy - perhaps the time is soon approaching for a forthcoming Pull Up a Chair session in which, as many of us did about this time last year, we can become better acquainted with one another by mentioning our occupations, our interests, and anything else about ourselves that might be of interest.