
I suppose it's as good an explanation as any, that Deborah Howell was triple dog dared into writing today's Ombudsman summary, but someone please explain why this is an improvement:
But to look at the glass half full, the contraction could make The Post crisper, more compact and more readable. A leading reason for canceling subscriptions is "no time to read." Reporters tend to want to write everything they know; I did it myself. Readers want to know only so much. The perfect length is a moving target. From the front page to the last page, The Post needs to be edited to respect readers' time.
Great to know that the Washington Post's ombudsman thinks that giving her readers Cliff's Notes on the news is adequate reporting. Yes, it's all about the word count. Not.
Given that one of the rousing successes for the Post online this year has been the amazing Being a Black Man series, and the amazing traffic that Dan Froomkin pulls in daily for his White House Briefing blog, one would think that the lesson of better, in-depth, and ongoing reporting is what is wanted by readers…but hey, that would be learning from one's mistakes. And that is something that I'm not certain Deb gets, given her attempt at snark on the still-as-yet-uncorrected Abramoff reporting error. (We can expect a full correction on that when, exactly?)
You'll have to pardon me if I prefer the more honest analysis from Jamison Foser at Media Matters:
Somerby is right. Destructive and baseless narratives about progressives spread not only because Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity repeat them, not only because Republican operatives promote them, and not only because too many political journalists can't seem to get enough of them.
These narratives spread because journalists like Jeff Greenfield and Jeanne Moos (presumably unintentionally) legitimize right-wing efforts to equate Barack Obama with Saddam Hussein by treating it all as a big joke. Were Greenfield and Moos really suggesting that Obama's name is a reason to dislike him? We assume they were not. But their focus on the topic only encourages others to continue their focus on the topic.
These narratives spread because progressive pundits join in, as when MSNBC's Flavia Colgan repeatedly suggests that Hillary Clinton will have an "authenticity" problem because she used to wear what Colgan describes as "Coke-bottle glasses." Does Colgan think Clinton's long-ago choice of eyewear is a good reason not to vote for Clinton? We don't know; probably not. But it simply doesn't matter. Her comments legitimize disliking Clinton for such ridiculous reasons. They encourage other media figures to keep focusing on such foolishness. Her intent simply doesn't matter; the content of what she says — and its effect on our discourse — is what matters.
And they spread when "liberal" columnists like Joe Klein write the "left wing" of the Democratic Party has a "hate America tendency." And when "liberal" columnists like Richard Cohen write, as he did in 2003, that "[o]nly a fool — or possibly a Frenchman" could doubt that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Three years later, Cohen would have the audacity to complain about receiving uncivil emails from progressive critics. No, really. He did.
You know, I can't speak for every liberal in the blogosphere, but what I would honestly like is simply for reporters to be able to do their jobs properly: report the honest facts, not some "he said, she said" version of them that skews things toward a false sense of "balance" because the management is afraid of ticking someone off by being truthful. That reporters are allowed to dig into the difficult stories and really follow-up, rather than being asked to move on to the next "popular" story that might sell more papers or advertising time on the TV.
Sure, I know it's a business, and the media owners are beholden to the same rules of profit that every other publicly-traded company is bound to follow: maximizing shareholder profits is king. But — and this is the key that Ms. Howell appears to miss out on entirely — most readers want real, in-depth, aggressive reporting from reporters who are allowed to be skeptics, ask difficult questions of those in power, and further to follow-up on why there is a decided lack of accountability.
We want reporters to be supported and allowed to do their jobs. It is that simple.
And spending an entire Obudswoman's column explaining to the readers why they are too slow to read thorough reporting and why Deb knows best what they should like? Well, that's incredibly condescending coming from a woman who is supposed to be representing all of our interests, and not just covering her own behind, now isn't it? Here's a thought: perhaps the readers who write in with complaints do so because they value what the paper COULD be, and that watching it descend into watered-down, faux balanced swill is painful and also dangerous considering how much real reporting could be done inside the Beltway these days.
Insulting your readers by telling them that they can only digest news in tiny bits and that they'll like what they are given and that asking for accountability is not desirable? Not exactly good for the bottom line, now is it, Deb? Like I said, must have been a triple dog dare…
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FITZ!
heehee ZED!
Three for three?
I feel so all alone here. :(
The solstice is with you, ww.
Lookit what the Republicans have. McCain, Romney, Giuliani.
We have actual talent. Gore, Clark, Edwards, Dean, CHS, Hamsher, Arianna, Olbermann, and on and on and…
“I think of war with Iran as the ending of America’s present role in the world. Iraq may have been a preview of that, but it’s still redeemable if we get out fast. In a war with Iran, we’ll get dragged down for 20 or 30 years. The world will condemn us. We will lose our position in the world.”
Zbigniew Brzezinski, Vanity Fair, 2006.
People who want to read a newspaper want in depth reporting and analysis. You can’t make the articles short enough for people who DON’T want to read the paper. “Not enough time” is just another way of saying “I’m not interested.” You have to market your product to the people who want it, not to the people who don’t. When will they ever learn?
And President James Earl Carter.
Dear Gods, thank you for the blogosphere…
Patrick 4/4 @ 4
Thank you Patrick. :) It was a little disconcerting how quickly my happy Snoopy dance at getting the zero degenerated when no one else showed up right away. I gotta watch these mood swings. ;)
witchywoman @ 7
There’s a general feeling that older readers read newspapers out of habit and will tolerate a lot of change in how the news is presented. They want to attract people who aren’t newspaper readers, and they’ve determined the best way to do that is to make it a not-newspaper.
I read Howell’s self-serving crap and the LATimes’s smackdown of her editorial earlier. What wastes of time, when –
Christy’s got a good shorter Deborah Howell:
Great to know that the Washington Post’s ombudsman thinks that giving her readers Cliff’s Notes on the news is adequate reporting. Yes, it’s all about the word count. Not.
And from the previous thread, Attaturk’s got an even more precious, shorter DH:
Essentially she defends a weaker WaPo as being “good” by giving readers less information.
So many people to be lumped, so few sacks of coal…..
Over the holidays, talking to kids home from colleges. Some doing their education with focus, some with confusion. I’ve talked to kids on ROTC scholarships and kids home from three of the service academies. All unwilling to say to me how they feel about the upcoming war with Iran.
All more interested in skiing, sledding, seeing each other. I guess there’s nothing new about that.
Christy, what WaPo hasn’t yet understood, is what we make on the Internets. Doesn’t matter what they print, only the MSM pays attention. We are so far advanced.
It’s xmas eve, and people from all over the world check out the firepups and the rest of the digital world… and those who care continue to fight against the darkness. Me, alone tonight in far off Germany, after a day of Fruh Shoppen, which has nothing to do with shopping.
It’s an old tradition, that after you go to church, you go across the street and begin drinking. Which lasts a few days. Eye think it has something to do with being a peon is hard work, and one needs some release, which in this culture, alcohol provides.
I’m streaming Boot Liquor radio from San Francisco, where internet junkies dream of cow-tipping. And i’m being very thankful that in the last half year the FireDogLake has given me a chance to participate in the resurrection of our democracy, i hope.
so my xmas eve wish, (i already wished it on solstice, my pagan holiday) is that this site has the energy and wisdom to continue to provide everything that WaPo doesn’t provide, and more important they don’t understand.
WE are the people, and at the end of the day, it’s our choice where we go and what we fund.
Actually, i just want to say thank you FDL, und froehiliche Weihnachten!
I sent President Carter and Rosalynn an email wishing them a merry Christmas here:
http://www.cartercenter.org/homepage.html
Crazy Hussein Horse @ 14
Hear, hear!
And a Happy New Year!
Well, no, actually. She spent a bit of time equating bloggers with “nasty e-mail”ers
Lump of coal, please.
There is another war coming. Soon. Perhaps this will truly be the war to end wars. May God help us.
witchywoman @
7
The Democrats have a problem with this, too. It seems crazy that people who want to end the war, people who want to address global climate change before it’s too late, have no one to vote for. The reason, They tell us, is because (fill in blank) is ‘not electable’ or some such bullshit. Reminds me of the (not so) old days, when they told us that women couldn’t (fill in the blank) because 1.) their voices are too high 2.) ‘no one would take them seriously’ 3.) they’re not tall enough … and on and on.
Electiable is as electsble does.
Froehliche Weinachten to you too, Crazy Horse…
…and a Merrygregious to all.
(Around here we’re using Happy Hanukkiss as our ecumenical holiday greeting. :-) )
Crazy Hussein Horse! What a lovely message – thank you!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 18
I know. And i know that it’s hard to interrupt the holiday broadcast with the possible truth. But for those of you who think Iraq has been “bad,” then what’s coming is beyond the pale.
i don’t know what to do. i ate some shrooms yesterday with Magdelene and her beau, and believe me, they’re freaked too.
The one thing we agreed aon was “keep telling the truth openly.”
The sorry truth is that the once proud WAPO has lost its way. How? Like this country, through piss poor leadership.
In depth reporting? Hey, the Company actually sanctions their ’superstar’ reporter keeping that for his book.
Once my parakeet passes to the great beyond, I am canceling my subscription.
A nice companion piece to this post at Howie’s place.
Lil Debbbie is just another brick in the wall.
Speaking of triple dog dares, I dare any doggie here to say “We’re NOT going to war with Iran,” citing quotes from leading members of the Congressional Dems (or from leading GOPers, for that matter) in your post.
Ha-ha. Conrad Burns sez he lost because the RNC ran crappy ads.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..ssing.html
What’s interesting about Howell’s latest is that advertisers want to place ads in publications that readers spend more time with -hence more chance of the reader spending time on their ad. Debbie’s column suggests that advertisers look elsewhere for good exposure, eh?
Perhaps readers – like voters – find is useless to waste their time on garbage. Why vote if your choices are two peas in a pod? why read WaPo if they just mostly repeat the latest talking points? Folks are relatively smart and don’t have time to fritter away on the same old.
In my Jungheit, i watched as the WaPo led every day with the REPORTING which led to Nixon taking the helicopter ride south. me certain that Katharine can’t believe what’s happened to her beloved Post.
and me no care. What we are creating digitally, will be what WaPo did for Nixon and our cultural health. If we fight and stay true.
Ein glas frishche Sekt fur siun and alle am FireDogLake.
btw, it IS about the oil, and that’s why they’re not leaving.
danke schoen Crazy Horse …
which uses up all my German except “Messe bitte” and “engildishun”
oregondave @
17
Lump of coal, please.
clump of LOL
oh boy – CNN reporting a holiday terror plot on the London Chunnel … surprising? no?
what else will this week bring as W decides it would be a shame to waste those nice shiny battleships chuging into the Gulf.
Siun, please don’t worry about your Deutsch, when you come here, i can translate everything with my Mohawk accent.
Most likely, i can even show Howie where to eat.
Ed*ard Teller @ 110 prev thread (EPU’d, but relevant here. Besides, I like it:)
my bold…
btw, many people in Europe have been worried about the tunnel story for days now. People are divided about whther it’s a Homeland Security plot or a real warning. At least two German gubmint people i’ve spoken to say the warning is real.
Siun @ 31
Indeed. The Deciderer said he ‘won’t be rushed into a decision’ about ISG recommendations, etc. Looks like we’re gonna find out the real reason action was delayed…’RSN’ (RealSoonNow…)
Best I could do on short notice is from Ron Paul.
The only person who can assure NOT is Bush, the rest of us can but look on with horror, trapped in slow motion as time slows, our perception in hyper-drive while catastrophe looms.
Millions marched before this war, sane people warned of quagmire, to no avail.
The decider will decide, or not. Remove him, remove the threat.
punaise @ 30
Oh, thank heaven for 707.
It was comforting to read in Howell’s first ‘graph that she’s actually read the Post’s stylebook. But she makes it clear reading the stylebook isn’t the same as gaining writing skills. This has to be one off the worst written pieces I’ve seen in a major newspaper by one of its own staffers.
This sentence was the topper for me: “Journalists hate to make mistakes; I’ve never known one made deliberately.” What the hell does that mean? I was unaware you could make a mistake on purpose. The amazing thing is they actually pay good money for this twaddle and devote scarce column inches on their edit page for it.
Blank Kludge RSN is one of my fave acronyms!
Crazy Horse – have you been reading Howie’s travel blog? it’s quite wonderful …
so where in Deutschland are you? I am a fan of Munich and Hannover but haven’t spent time elsewhere. (used to do annual CeBit trips to work with the German publishers I worked for)
Lil’ Debbie does not yet fully understand the power of the internets. Newt, unfortunately, does and, with one eye on the throne, he hopes to persuade those whose ear he has that they must be stopped. And he does have the ear of some powerful men.
I am so thankful to be able to read teh BBC, Asia Times, uruknet and more online I don’t have to worry right now if Debbie filters the news for her readers. I’m not one of them. If Senator Toobz or the Tubby Salamander have their way, or their sway, I will worry then. For now, there’s FDL, Digby, Drifty, Gilliard and the rest of the sane observers.
Silent Night, everyone. May your dreams of peace stop the fleet in its tracks and topple the tower of power.
jeffreyw – Ron Paul is a libertarian republican … tho often quite right on the issues and ornery enough to speak his mind!
Harry Reid did vow at YKOS to insist on prior notice and full intelligence for any attack on Iran but that’s not the same as “no war” and I sadly doubt that even that will be held to.
I remain disappointed in many Democrats.
I want out of Iraq. I want a “two state solution”. I want Bush and the rest held accountable. There is no wiggle-room.
Siun, Munich is south and Hannover is north. You were in Hannover because the Hannover Messe (fair site) is the biggest in europe (vegas lite).
Yes, i’ve read every word of Howie’s travel blog, including the guest post from Mickey Snyder about N’awlins. And i’m missing Frisco very much tonight, even though Howie went south to the land of Chinois on Main, also my favorite.
But you know what, life in Germany (Remscheid, 25 minutes from cologne) is really great. i love it living in the land where sustainability is the highest goal.
And so if we attack Iran, where does it end?
To me, the best example of the complete failure of the MSM to actually report the news is the Ken Mehlman story. Not only do they adamantly refuse to report that he’s gay, but they also censor people (Bill Maher) who even say so.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 45
After about 650 words. We’re trying to keep the stories short.
And spending an entire Obudswoman’s
Tiny typo.
My fave sliver of Xmas Eve Howell:
Is anyone else as paranoid and fdl-centered as I am? — thinking that Deb left Rajiv out of her diversity column just three weeks after he appeared at BookSalon to discuss Emerald City? Really, lady, if you’re going to count minorities and challenge your employer to hire more (which she didn’t) you need to count all of us. PS — Including teh gays — who didn’t get counted in her diversity column at all.
Anyway, Deb doesn’t know it, but she’s got a special Festivus gift coming her way — no more tasty TSF emails late on Saturday nites (which she’s been pretty good about answering, if I omit swears).
I’m done with her (to her jubilation, no doubt). As far as I’m concerned, the Washington Post is, from this day forward, un-ombudsed. My complaints will go directly to:
Executive Editor Leonard Downie Jr.
Let’s see how long he puts up with me.
Ms. Howell is mind-bogglingly obtuse. Having fewer reporters will make the writing “crisper”? Crisp writing comes from having talented, experienced journalists, researchers, and editors. How will having fewer of them improve the writing?
And, as numerous people have observed, she still doesn’t understand what the problem was with her Abramoff story.
Off to buy more sacks of coal before the bins are bare.
So nobody can come up with the name of ayone in the Dem leadership who has assertively come out against War with Iran? There must be somebody…
Patrick 4/4 @ 47
ROFL – and simple enough for an eight-year-old to digest in one reading.
Am having a pretty happy day today, with kids home and a new feature installed on my website. Don’t know why I waited so long to install a sitemeter.
For anyone experiencing the holiday blues we have a Holiday Depression Open House over at my blog so come on over and rant. People with any kind of mental illness are most welcome.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 45
As Gore Vidal names it, Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace.
There’s only one way to attack Iran. And that’s with WMD’s. What are China, Russia, No. Korea, India, Pakistan, Egypt, Israel and other counties going to be doing when we launch?
Ed*ard Teller @ 51
Webb is likely against it but I don’t have a quote for you.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 55
Well, they could start with trade sanctions and a refusal to buy any more of our debt. That could get our attention pretty fast.
egregious @ 57
Is there enough time? Has the decision perhaps been made to launch? I don’t know.
This may be important:
“NAJAF, IRAQ — One of Iraq’s most influential Shiite clerics rejected a U.S.-backed proposal to isolate Shiite extremists in the national government, saying the country should govern itself with the help of anti-U.S. firebrand Muqtada Sadr, according to politicians who spoke with the cleric Saturday.
Shiite politicians met with Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani in this Shiite holy city, and then said they had thrown their support behind Sadr, who demands a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq rather than the temporary increase under consideration in Washington.
“The Sadr movement is part of Iraqi affairs,” said Haider Abadi, a leader of Shiite Prime Minister Nouri Maliki’s Islamic Dawa Party. “We won’t allow others to interfere to weaken any Iraqi political movement.”
Ali Adeeb, another member of the Dawa Party, said Shiite leaders, including the prime minister, would resist U.S. efforts to sideline Sadr and his Al Mahdi “
LA Times
Sounds like the shia are playin chicken with GW Clusterfuck–”take yer fuckin SURGE and shove it up yer ass- we’re runnin this railroad!”
rwcole @ 59
It’s important alright.
rw at 59 — Uh oh, Junior…
More words of “wisdom” from
Ombudsman Lil’ Debbie.
The thing is, George Bush, Cheney, Rove, the neocons and the rest believe strongly that a nuclear war is winnable. By us.
OT
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap…..A_Leak.php
Media want documents on Fitzgerald’s subpoenas in CIA leak case
Here’s my email to Mr. Leonard Downie Jr, Executive Editor of the Washington Post.
Harkening back to the last thread, perhaps a good idea would be to send a lump of RW to Dubya.
Redd—GW’s gettin an ass-pucker fer Christmas- just when he’s leakin parts of his plan (PERMANENT surge- and 10 billion in funds to give jobs to Iraqis).
Things are goin jest SWELL
Clusterfuck sent his NEW Sec of Defense to Iraq to talk to the military- he found three drunk GIs who told him that the “surge” was cool- so now the guy who signed the fuckin ISG report is gonna tell Clusterfuck that Surgin is all the rage-
All it takes is to join this piece of shit administration- and they suck yer brain and yer integrity out with the same straw.
Jacqrat @ 63
oooooh, jacqrat, you and bravo! rock on.
If Clusterfuck handles this thing properly- he can get the Iraqis to kick our asses out- and he’s off the hook- but watch him fuck that up too.
Howell’s editorial reads like a love letter (plea for a job) to USA Today or Parade.
Taking a break from putting together the bed. The bed part was actually pretty easy. But the trundle that goes under it — well, there’s a reason I needed a break.
How are things going with everyone else today? Egregious — you hanging in there with a little little greg-es at home?
TeddySanFran @ 66
Shorter TSF: “This ombud’s for you. Not.”
Margot @
65
IANAL, but a with quick read of the article I may be able to answer their question. He needs to be able to prove what he knows.
TeddySanFran @ 69
At least she wished you a “Happy Festivus!” Nice letter to Lenny, btw.
btw, The Peanut has been “helping” us put together her new big girl bed. She stopped with her little hands full a bit ago and said, as loudly as she possibly could, “This is the best Christmas ever!” You know what? I think it just may be… :)
Hi Christy–
All the little ones are here, making for a very happy Mommy :)
It’s a bit…noisy. Cluttered. Chaotic. Demanding. Did I happen to mention they are all strong-willed and have lots of interests and enthusiasms? This is good for them, good for the world, and less than optimal for a tidy house.
But priorities, really, the kids have always been first.
I loved your story about the Peanut helping with the baking.
hmm as a person who reads newspapers and blogs-i.e.-i have no life lol, it appears to me that the MSM is irate that people dare to read the alternate media that gives us much more in-depth reporting at least imho. and forget info on tv news! i for one am glad we have choices. and bushco will never learn as most bullyboys refuse to believe they are right always. btw – merry xmas, happy kwaanza and happy new year to one and all!!
juslin–
I like the phrase [Froomkin?] “the people formerly known as the audience.”
Merry Christmas/Holiday to you.
Tiger Woods had laser eye surgery a few years back. Clearly an “authenticity” problem. Kobe had knee surgery last summer, which shoots the hell out of his “authenticity”, never mind he’s the smoothest of the smooth under the basket and can still nail you for 50 points when your back is turned. Bah!
marksb!
How are you doing, how’s your health?
Reporters tend to want to write everything they know; I did it myself. ~ D. Howell
Hence her short career as a reporter.
Insulting your readers by telling them that they can only digest news in tiny bits…
L’il Debbie promotes her “Snack-cake” theory of news consumption.
?Que…?
Narratives, fiction writing…remember Maureen Down way back in
the 2000 presidential campaign. She made of habit of spreading
all the lie’s about Gore & the color of his cloths, inventing the internet
etc. You can get away with that stuff when you look as good
as she does. Nice red hair, lots of meds. She related getting a wink
from Bush after the election at a dinner for something. We know that wink from the president she helped elect was a “thankyoumuch”
for dong her little bit and not for the reason she related in the
column…and she will get away with it and I hope she takes it easy
with whatever she is taking.
But to look at the glass half full, the contraction could make The Post crisper, more compact and more readable. A leading reason for canceling subscriptions is “no time to read.”
What are the odds that the readers are actually telling the Post, “Too many of your articles aren’t worth my time?”
It’s the quality, not the quantity.
Debbie Howell says, “Reporters tend to want to write everything they know; I did it myself.”
I say, if she wrote everything she knew, her stories would be zero column inches long.
I have “no time to read” articles that have nothing to do with the headline
or require me to flip to pages of advertising to get to the continued section.
But the fact is anything that Little Debbie touches is dogshit, horseshit, pigshit crap, so it doesn’t matter what the reader likes anyway.
Merry Christmas, Debbie Howell.