
While Washington debates whether surging additional troops into Iraq is either feasible or wise, it’s possible we've been distracted from the main event. With strong White House encouragement, Iraqi politicians have been busy at home trying to put together a grand bargain that could transform the US debate, realign the Iraqi Government and possibly lead to a reduction in sectarian killing.
The deal appears to connect to the leaked memo by National Security Director Steven Hadley printed in the New York Times two weeks ago. It may explain why the White House sought to delay any announcement about the "New Way Forward" in Iraq while the President met with leaders of Kurdish and Shiite parties. The White House isn't undecided; they're waiting to see if the deal falls into place.
Three stories, two from the AP, here and here, and one from the Washington Post set the stage. The Post story, Shiite Cleric’s Rivalry Deepens in Fragile Iraq, provides helpful background on the rivalry between Moqtada al-Sadr and Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, the leader of SCIRI (Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq). That’s worth a read, especially if you’re the incoming Chair of the House Intelligence Committee.
The two AP stories describe negotiations that have been occurring over the past two weeks to form a new government coalition of supposedly “moderate” Shiite parties (including al-Hakim’s SCIRI and Prime Minister al-Maliki’s Dawa party), two Kurdish parties, and at least one Sunni party (Sunni Iraqi Islamic Party). The apparent goals have been to form a stronger central government across all sects to help reduce the sectarian killing, while reducing the influence of (if not isolating) the popular and powerful al-Sadr, whom US officials now regard as the most serious threat to US interests.
In the past, Iraqi negotiations have broken down over the new constitution, federalism, control over ministries, oil revenues, and so on, and they may do so again. But perhaps not. Within the last few days, the new coalition has met with Iraq’s most revered cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, to secure his blessing for its efforts. According to the NYT and AP stories above, they have succeeded, but on Sistani's condition that the new “moderate” coalition of Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites does not disband the existing Shiite Alliance favored by Sistani that also includes al-Sadr's Shiite group. So the new coalition members have met with al-Sadr, too. In the second AP report late Thursday, Iraqi sources report that al-Sadr has apparently agreed not only to rejoin the national government (you’ll recall he pulled his members out to protest al-Maliki meeting with Bush two weeks ago) but also to accept a reduction in sectarian fighting.
The AP stories speculate that the new coalition and Ayatollah Sistani’s blessing may have convinced al-Sadr to rejoin the government to avoid losing influence and to discourage the US from attacking his militia. But the condition al-Sadr demanded, and which the coalition reportedly accepted, is interesting:
"We will rejoin the government and the parliament very soon," the [pro-Sadr] lawmaker said. "We got some guarantees during our meeting today."On Thursday, al-Sadr loyalists met with members of the Shiite bloc and laid out their demands, the lawmaker said.
"Our demands are to hand over the security file and not allow any regional interference in Iraqi affairs," he said, meaning, apparently, that U.S. forces must hand over all control of security forces to the Iraqi government.
So that's the deal: The Iraqis get a new, broad-based coalition to strengthen the national government. Key Shiite and Sunni parties agree to reduce the killing. The US nemesis, al-Sadr, rejoins the government, perhaps with a security responsibility, but he also accepts the need to reduce the killing. The deal has the blessing of the country’s top cleric, and the US government. The Iraqis claim they put the deal together themselves. Bush and Rice/Hadley can also take credit, and perhaps the "delay until January" was just a ruse to allow a suprise announcement just before Christmas (or New Years). And there's political cover for the US to announce they'll turn over control of security to the Iraqi forces.
Sound too good to be true? Probably; if this is just the "moderate" parties, we still have all the “immoderate” folks out there willing to continue the carnage (assuming the so-called moderates stop), including lots of disenfranchised Sunnis and any Shiites no longer controlled by Sadr or the coalition parties. Even within the coalition, there are tough conditions yet to be met that could cause the deal to fall apart, as Friday's NYT article notes. But at least this story is the first one to make sense of everything that has been happening for the last month. And it may explain why Secretary Gates, upon leaving Baghdad today, announced that the US and Iraqis were now in "broad strategic agreement."
This scenario still leaves some very major questions for the US. In particular, is there a purpose for the US “surge” (eg, to help enforce the deal)? If the Iraqis pull this off, would the Administration be persuaded to declare "Victory" and start removing our troops? Or would they use this as an opportunity to go after whomever they choose to define as the remaining “terrorists” and “enemies” in Iraq, creating more violence, more reprisals, and risking the deal? And is Sadr's powerful 60,000 man Mahdi Army one of those targets, if not first, then next? We know what the Cheney/neocons would do. Deal or no deal, this war is far from over.
Juan Cole has more on the underreported scope of the violence.
UPDATE: We get an important reminder of what "moderate" means from markfromireland (h/t Siun). After all, it's the SCIRI party that many believe to be associated with death squads and kidnappings by forces working for the Interior Ministry. And apparently the al-Sadr people are now denying they've agreed to reenter the Government. There are still lots of obstacles before this deal is done, if ever. Meanwhile, the LA Times reports (h/t rumi) that the top US Generals in Iraq are now on board for a "surge."
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Why don’t we just pull out of Iraq. I’m sick of this. Let them make their own deals. Policemen of the world? The very idea!
Unbelievably, some Rethug Dixiecrat Congressthing (Hayes, R-NC) proposed today that the way to win in Iraq is to convert ‘em all to Christianity.. presumably by the sword?
http://www.bluenc.com/robin-ha.....rist-there (linked from Wonkette).. Wonkette classed the link under “crusades”
With this type of logic out there, how can expect them to do the right thing?
Esten!
I am not upset with the Republicans. I expect as much from them. I’m pissed at my own party. The Democrats. The silence on Iraq is absolutely infuriating.
Blub @
2
’tis the season for Sects’ Yule Healing
I have to assume that the administration is getting played. Because, well, they’re magical-thinking suckers.
What in the world convinces us that the longer we stay in Iraq, the better ‘things’ will be?
Oklahoma kiddo @
4
OK - this Courant article from yesterday has several quotes from other Democrats:
Lieberman Presses Case for More Troops in Iraq
I’ll admit I didn’t do due diligence in clicking thru all your cited links, scarecrow. Pardon my laziness. Which is not to slight your post in any way. It is good work (and reflective of your commentary within threads. Solid, well reasoned and well documented.)
Just say I’m leaning towards Oklahoma kiddo on this. First, I’ll believe it when I see it. As you point out as well, it could come to naugth and/or fall apart, etc.
Bottom line for me is that it looks like another way to say ‘Friedman Unit’.
I don’t like being Charlie Brown while Chaney’s of Fools and the Neoconmen play Lucy.
If I were betting, that AEI screed looks more like ‘reality.’
In the meantime, bug the Dems to bugout of there.
jmho.
Eli @ 6
People playing chess with others who can’t win at Checkers. Or maybe this is the Bush version of “graceful exit.”
Blank Kludge @ 9
I think everything is about running out the clock so that Iraq becomes President Not-Bush’s problem.
Friedmans are on the march.
Scarecrow @ 8
I just read this stuff from Reid and Dodd from the link. I dislike having to say this. But. I am not pacified.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 4
I concur. In fact, I agree with many of your recent sentiments. You are correct. It seems that the dems are afraid to be labeled anti-war in this age of the ultimate Military Industrial Complex with its Media Arm (by arm, I refer to the entire MSM except Olbermann and the occasional op-ed writer). Did you see Hillary and Obama on the cover of Newsweek?
Milquetoast Central.
hackworth @ 13
Just this once, it would not be so bad if the Democrats paid some attention to poll numbers…
In the background of this is that the Sadrists have been among the most, if not the most, vocal about US troops departing Iraq.
What the Sadrists may mean about the “return of the security file” just might be entirely different from what Cheney and the remaining neo-cons think it means….
Somehow I missed this story back in October…
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montag @ 15
Yeah, I couldn’t find anything that explained what “the security file” means in this context. But the Shia have the Interior Ministry, which include police, and a Sunni has the Armed Forces Ministry, IIRC.
If my party, the Dems, wanted to generate headlines on virtually every media front with their opposition to what is happening in the Middle East, they could do it in a heartbeat.
Eli - Poll numbers. Indeed. Bush’s Credibility Gap’ isn’t an outlet clothing store for Emperors.
montag - I was also thinking about the ‘meaning’ of the security ‘file’ (the Brits would call it a ‘portfolio’ - or is that U.S. diplolingo?)
Security is the Sorcerer’s Stone of this whole venture. (or the Brits use ‘Philosopher’s Stone, at least @ Hogwarts, I gather.)
WAG: “the security file” = security portfolio
EPU’d and more relevant to last thread but this is a great Lieb YouTuby by tpartyblog
Sen. Lieberman is “getting tougher” on Iraq (pre CT election). Some comments relevant to topic here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEaHTV78ij4
going through headlines from earlier this week. missed this one, in between all the other war-atrocities… Shrub plans to spend $100 million of my money (and yours) to build a grand courthouse at Gitmo to host his illegal military commissions???? WTF!!????
http://www.cbsnews.com/section.....ondemand.. scroll down to 12/18 headlines video
I want the Democrats to stand for something. I don’t want my party to be subjected to the same charge that Republicans have leveled at us, somewhat successfully I might add, for years. Namely; that we don’t stand for anything.
Scarecrow - not sure if this is what they are talking about but al-Sadr’s people had provided security to Sadr City (and other areas of Baghdad?) actually quite effectively but were then removed from that role - with the “police” taking over (think Ministry of Interior, think death squads) - and many feel that the increase in tragedies like the kidnapping of the Red Crescent workers (17 still missing) and some of the large car bombs, etc have been possible because al-Sadr’s people were not allowed to man the checkpoints.
Want to talk about ‘milquetoast’? Then talk about Hillary.
Siun — Interesting; from mfi sources?
nodding Scarecrow .. MfI has mentioned the decision to pull Sadrist people off checkpoints several times and some of the Iraqi bloggers now posting there have as well … one of them mentioned that while he is not a natural part of al-Sadr’s supporters, al-Sadr is the only one actually trying to protect people in the neighborhoods … I’ll see if I can find the relevant links and doublecheck my memory.
well, with no doubt if this takes place the president reaps some statistic booste
Still back on JoeLie, because…. just because… if JoeLie and others have their way, the war is far from over.
YouTube from Gates hearing, featuring Short Ride:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRYKF4bVPqg
From courant.com (Scarecrow’s link@8 above)
“There’s got to be a specific mission that can be accomplished with the addition of more troops before … I agree on that strategy,” the president said.”
It sounds like they decided they wanted to send more troops, and now they are looking for a rationale for doing so.
Isn’t that kind of how we got into this mess?
Siun @ 24
AEI from last thread is implemented slightly differently:
Although they target the west side of the city. FWIW.
I’m really starting to think that, given Shrub’s defiance, the only politically viable way we can get him to do what we need him to (withdraw) is impeachment. Does anybody else feel this way? And will our party be willing to push that button if the preznit stays obstinate?
I don’t think cold-cutting all funding for current ops, which is the only way to prevent Shrub from gerrymandering line item appropriations to fund his surge, is politically viable. And what’s to prevent the preznit from signing statement or just ignoring the spending measure?
Whatever happens between the Iraq’s is simply put: is none of our business.
This latest report from CNN World says the coalition may fall apart because the Shiites won’t exclude Sadr, and that Sadr has not yet agreed to rejoin the government, as reported by AP yesterday.
New Iraq political alliance hits snag
I want out of Iraq, God dammit. And I want the Bush crowd held accountable.
Siun @ 24
I have no idea how this plays inside the White House, since they have been demonizing Bani Sadr as the principal devil in the insurgency for quite a while–largely for the reason I mentioned previously.
If, indeed, the Sadrists are simply talking about a return of security responsibility in east Baghdad, that would inevitably mean a withdrawal of US forces from, at least, that part of Baghdad. I can’t imagine the Sadrists working with US forces to regain some security in that area, given past Sadr declarations.
So, does this become a “best of both worlds” deal, where US troops can withdraw to secure colonial bases as long as they leave Baghdad to the Sadrists (or be free to attack the more radical Sunnis in al-Anbar)?
If, indeed, that’s the current deal to slow the rate of death, possibly only for PR purposes at Christmas-time, what happens when the radical Sunnis in Saudi Arabia figure out that they’ve been sold out?
Oh, yeah, re: the latest YouTube I posted, when did this idea of “surge” hit the presses? Short ride uses “surge” during the Gates hearings. IIRC correctly the “surge” idea was talked about publically only after those hearings. Maybe my recollection is wrong, and please correct me if I am. If not, the lingo was spread to the “insiders” well before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRYKF4bVPqg
Do I understand the whole Middle East is ready to blow?
neurophius @ 30
Yes.
I dunno, Scarecrow. Sounds like there are too many moving parts for anyone among the bushies to be involved in it, or even to understand it.
If true, it could be Maliki and others there making plans for us to be gone (by getting everybody to agree we’re the problem? that was always Sistani’s position, IIRC). Or it could have a whiff of Baker about it; it’s his kind of complicated game.
What I don’t get is our role if the deal is done. Seems like we become everybody’s logical target from that point on, don’t we?
bush could have avoided almost all of this by just announcing when Maliki was made PM that we have no intention of keeping permanent bases in Iraq and signing a pledge with him. He’d have been gold then, and it wouldn’t have cost us a damn thing.
Blub @ 32
You have to impeach Cheney first and get him out of office. The thought of a Cheney administration in which Cheney himself would be president is abominable.
Then you have to hope Bush doesn’t appoint someone equally objectionable to replace Cheney as VP.
That is unless you somehow manage to impeach Bush before he appoints a new VP. I don’t think he would give you the chance.
Valley Girl @ 37
Valley Girl: The NYT was using that term in early December:
Struggle for Iraq (May be Times Select) Story quotes General Anthony Zinni using that term.
If Bush wants to pursue and expand his megalomania, there’s only one way to do it. WMD’s.
neurophius @ 41
I think a Cheney administration would be little different than what we have now. At least, that way we’d find out who all his staff are. :)
With Cheney in office, I think it would be simple to have all the support from Republicans required to shove his ass out of office post haste. And, there’s just one item that’s required to bust open to do it–his office’s interference in contracting in Halliburton’s favor. That’s a felony. That’s all it would take for the `pugs in Congress to want to distance themselves from ol’ Toad-In-The-Hole in a New York minute.
That is, presuming Cheney’s heart lasted past the first press conference….
Valley Girl:
Media Matters has McCain back at least Oct. 27:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200612070004
FWIW/YMMV, etc.
oh, and Hi there.
Here’s a link to MfI’s comments on the removal of the ability to check for explosives, etc
http://gorillasguides.blogspot.....ation.html
http://gorillasguides.blogspot.....mbing.html
and note Ali’s comment here:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.....0796027251
Altoid @ 40
It seems to be characteristic of the Bush Administration to select an enemy and demonize them, then do everything they can to exclude them from any further discourse. Isn’t that what Bush/Rove did with the Democrats for six years? It’s how they work.
In Iraq, the new demon is Sadr. But is Sadr part of the problem or part of the solution? The sources Siun in bringing in see him as part of the solution; Bush treats him as the major problem — again, it’s that refusal to see anyone who disagrees with you as someone who might have something worth talking about. And the insistence that the “moderate” coalition exclude Sadr is becoming the big stumbling block to having the coalition work.
Scarecrow @ 47
Maybe I’ve been reading too much Gilliard, but I have the distinct impression that nothing positive gets accomplished in Iraq without playing ball with Sadr.
Looking at The Brian Setzer Orchestra Christmas on PBS. Are you tuned?
Siun — thanks for the mfi links; that helps answer my question.
My understanding - and it’s limited - is the al-Sadr is simply this month’s bad guy (tho he’s been portrayed as the bad guy for quite a while) … with McCain et al publicly calling for al-Sadr to be “taken out” we just have the latest bullshit of this administration - whenever they are called out for the complete disaster of their war of choice, they find a new bad buy to target and “take out” and say “see we’re making progress” …of course, there is no progress but they get great headlines for a few days.
The Shiites that W is currently in bed with are SCIRI who are behind the death squads - note in Ali’s comment (linked in my last) that the Min of Interior guy’s family has been involved with oil smuggling to the tune of … well lots. Sounds just about right for W’s pals!
Altoid @ 40
Altoid, Bushies don’t care about the moving parts.
We aren’t leaving until the oil flow is secure and drained dry. Unless congress, you know, represents us.
I don’t trust our P/VP why should any Iraqi? Can’t help but wonder if any of this is true.
Aside from that.
Where/what are the oil deals? Follow the money and weapons.(yea, right)
Scarecrow @ 42
Yes, alas it is Times Select. And the Gates hearings were in early Dec. As was the first appearance of the term “surge” in the press. I can’t figure out the exact chronology– probably doesn’t matter anyway, at this point, because it’s semantics. At first I thought I could trace the word “surge” timewise, to figure out how it was spread, but probably not worth it, at this point.
p.s. Blank Kludge- Hi there too. Thanks for the link to the McCain article. As you can see above, I was interested specifically in the word “surge”, tho true from your link, that the “idea” ? of increasing troop numbers has been spouted long before.
We have to keep remembering that almost all sources commonly available to us - MSM, AP, even respected academics - are not in Iraq and are not aware of the realities on the ground … they are reporting from the Green Zone or from thousands of miles away. Searching out local or arabic sources with more direct access is really critical … otherwise we are relyng on the same folks who sold us this war to explain it to us. They want to set up a triangle - Sunnis, Shia, Sadrists … with “the good Shia” being SCIRI who are not trusted by many Iraqis and who are linked to abuses like the kidnappings and death squads. It’s a comfortable and simple story for them to tell … and of course the situation on the ground is more complex.
Democrats! I want to see some ass kicked. Big time!!! Do not disappoint me.
BTW, my interest in the specific use of “surge” comes from my observation that sometimes specific words or phrases are political “tells” and can be traced, like a smoking gun, back to the root source. That idea is mostly based on my extensive reading at FDL about the Plame case, and the “who said what to whom, and when”. Probably not transferable to the use of “surge” re: Iraq, but thanks for indulging me.
Re: Impeachment
U.S. Constitution 25th Amendment Section 2:
“Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.”
So Cheney gets impeached and convicted and thrown out of office. (Unlikely. It takes only a simple majority to impeach in the House, but requires a two thirds vote of the Senate for conviction and removal. Unless, as montag suggests, you come up with some powerful evidence against Cheney that would induce at least 17 Republican senators to vote to convict).
Then Bush tries to appoint, say, Santorum to be VP.
It would require a majority vote of both houses to become effective.
The Democrats could block that in the House if there were good party discipline.
Then Bush is impeached, convicted and removed.
Pelosi becomes president.
Again, it all depends on getting a two-thirds vote for conviction in the Senate.
FITZ!!!
So?
SCIRI is supported by Iran (and us, more or less, at the moment)
and Sadr is supported by the Saudis?
Eureka Springs, AR @ 58
You’re being facetious, I hope. Saudis are Sunnis, Sadr’s a Shi’ite.
Meanwhile, Steve Bell scores a bullseye on Bush’s rhetoric.
I suspect that if it came to impeachment (and, if we want to end this war, I suspect that it may have to), it’ll be negotiated serial resignations at that point… no president has ever been removed from office, of course. A rethug caretaker VP would have to be appointed and approved by the Democrats, as part of the deal. But to get that far, the Dems would have to be totally disciplined and firm in their resolve that the war has to end, in the face of ongoing presidential obstruction, lies and broken laws. ‘course, there’s always the possibility that shrub and shooter will insist on going down with the ship.. their party be darned.
EvilDrPuma @ 60
Successiness.
Valley Girl @ 56
Ya know I’ve had that same notion. Foggybottom has its ways and means and devious devices.
Wish my memory was better (and after soe ’searching’ just now for naught. Seems like it (as in the floating of the idea) starts w/McCain. I remember him w/Timmeh on MTP and advocating MORE troops back summertime. When did it become annointed as a ’surge’ IS indeed a good question. I’d bet Limbaugh or some LGF type coined the term. It might be worth asking a Ref Librarian; if ya got one on hand over teh holidaze.
;)
The “realities” on the ground in Iraq I suspect resemble hell on Earth
If the Democrats are too scared to go after Bush and Cheney, why don’t they go after Halliburton? I would imagine that would open up some very nasty cans of worms. With all the no-bid contracts they got in Iraq, with all their “contractors” there, and their detention centers here, there have to be some trails that lead to favored (and possibly illegal) treatment toward Halliburton, KBR, etc. by the Bush Cabal.
The compromise. Is there any way we can screw this up? Because that is the very thing that this administration will do.
Valley Girl - I have heard that “surge” is actually a military use that predates W’s latest excitement about studly lingo
Re: “surge”
The Seattle Times said this on Nov. 28:
“The Iraq Study Group and a separate U.S. military review are thought to be weighing whether to recommend a temporary surge in the number of U.S. troops in Iraq.”
egregious @ 66
I’m sure there are multitudes, The Surge probably being one of them.
It should be obvious by now. The only sure road to peace in the Middle East is to bomb Iran. Just ask the Israeli government. They’re bound to confirm the premise.
I just want to toss in that various of the members of the Iraqi government have been playing footsie with Iran rather publicly, and whatever happens, I imagine that’s going to be part of it.
You might recall that the meeting linked above was referred to as an Iraqi-Iranian “summit”, and it happened the day before Maliki refused to meet with Bush in Jordan. I think this probably is a reasonable indicator of how much influence we have over the course of events.
Eli - Whats confusing me is Abdul Aziz al-Hakim.
He spent time in exile, in Iran. What I can’t discern is his allegiance. Is he solo or SCIRI?
Eureka Springs, AR @ 72
I think he’s the head of SCIRI.
Eli @ 73
See background in the Washington Post link in the third paragraph in the main post.
SusanD @ 65
Think Waxman!
You want to discuss ‘crimes against humanity’? Let’s talk about the Gaza.
The TImes is Seattle’s rightside fishwrap, yes?
An Op/ED?
—-
My brain says the term does come from fair/balance on speculation ‘what will ISG say?’. So, who was balancing for a surge becomes a question (or a question begging to be asked, versus ‘begging the question.)
(obviously time ‘to sleep perchance to dream.’
‘Step away from the keyboard, kludge.)
The Washington Post (quoting a Wall Street Journal op-ed) said this on Nov. 26:
“…Only two of the 40 experts — May and former CIA analyst Reuel Marc Gerecht — are neoconservatives.
“My frustration was that there was often a feeling in the [experts’] room that President Bush should have asked them for their advice much earlier but didn’t, so now they were all going to say, ‘I told you so,’ ” May said. “I said, ‘If you’re going to say that this mission can’t succeed and will face defeat, let’s not have a failure of imagination.’ ”
In an interview, Gerecht said the goal of consensus among 10 Republicans and Democrats means that there will be no dramatic recommendations. In an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal, he wrote: “Its recommendations will probably be the least helpful of all the blue-ribbon commissions in Washington since World War II because it cannot escape from an unavoidable reality: We either declare defeat and withdraw completely tout de suite, or we surge troops into Baghdad and fight.”
another view of Al Hakim
http://gorillasguides.blogspot.....ngton.html
Blank Kludge- thanks for sharing my particular curiosity about the recent use of the term. So, I’m not totally of the map, it seems.
Siun, and thanks, too. So, it is an “old” military term. But probably not one that Junya was aware of, given his lack of knowledge about everything military, first hand and at a distance… er his lack of knowledge about everything.
and Ali’s comment on Al Hakim:
“It is his murderous present that disturbs me. He is quite prepared to murder every single Sunni every single Christian every single Shia everyone who gets in his way. He is quite prepared to split Iraq as long as he gets the south. His son runs a HUGE oil smuggling operation. The man is scum. Much of the evil that happens in Iraq today is his doing.”
Siun @ 81
At least now we know who Dubya’s go-to guy is going to be.
Valley Girl @ 80
Bush does have that tendency to repeat the latest buzzword he’s heard, doesn’t he?
BTW, did you find my second reply to you about privatization in the Russ Feingold thread? Did it explain the history, somewhat, of what’s happening now?
ValleyGirl - yeah, I was sure it was just manly W’s idea all on his own!
neurophius at 7:59– WaPo article. Thanks- you are genius at finding this. So, the use of the term re: Iraq did predate the Gates hearings, and the BushCo. public “surge” blabber. So, from your find, it looks like the term has been swirling around for a while. Thx much
Anyone remember a Doonesbury cartoon a while back (might’ve been Gulf War I) referring to “Operation Frequent Manhood”?
VG:
Of course, speaking for myself is why choose that particular word? (cui bono?)
my answer is:
Surge is a sexy way to NOT say ‘escalate’.
Toronto Star Nov. 18:
“In a country convulsed with the search for a way out of Iraq, a new buzzword is suddenly competing with the clamour for phased withdrawals, strategic redeployments and drawdowns.
Surge.
It may seem counterintuitive, but there are calls - including one from the man who could be the next U.S. president - to flood Iraq with thousands more American troops, a so-called surge, in one last bid to win a war that looks more and more unwinnable.
Such a short-term surge of troops could be the last gasp for U.S. President George W. Bush to claim he at least brought stability to Iraq, enough stability to declare victory, get out of the country with some honour and close the history books on a mission which fell far short of his lofty goal of exporting democracy to the Middle East.
Days after mid-term elections brought Democrats to power in Congress, propelled by anger at the course of the war in Iraq, the future of the war is now being shaped by the burgeoning 2008 presidential campaign.
All sides are now waiting for a report, expected next month, from the Iraq Study Group, a bipartisan committee headed by James Baker, the secretary of state during the one-term presidency of Bush’s father, and Lee Hamilton, a onetime Democratic Indiana congressman who most recently co-chaired the Sept. 11 commission which probed the 2001 terrorist attacks.
The report has been raised to Holy Grail status, with both sides of the debate now hoping they can find something to embrace.
According to one report this week in the London-based Guardian - published shortly after British Prime Minister Tony Blair met with the study group by videoconference - the report will recommend a surge of 20,000 American troops to secure Baghdad and allow troop deployments to other unstable areas of Iraq.”
TRex has a new thread upstairs.
Siun — thanks for the mfi links on our favorite “moderate.”
Oklahoma kiddo @ 70
Whew good thing the Irani won’t respond to any military attack.
montag @ 83
Montag, I did indeed (earlier) find and read your reply about the history of “privitization” aka “open the door to the mercenaries” (my words). It was very informative. Also, the comment that followed added more to the picture.
As I was reading your comment, I was metaphorically shaking my head, and thinking what a waste it was that such great comments sometimes don’t get the readership they deserve at FDL. If I am ignorant about the history of privitization, at least a few other readers must be as well. I will spread the info and comment via email to some key FDL folks who will be interested.
Meanwhile, for the rest of you, here is the comment from Montag that I am talking about. Alas, we are again at the end of a thread!
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ent-427866
Siun @ 81
Smuggling oil successfully in Iraq these days! Damn.
Scarecrow I don’t know how you do it, but you do it so well.
May the troops come home now? /grumble
Has anyone heard from Hugh? Is he alright?
This is from the next thread… what’s the opposite of EPU’d?
Blank Kludge @ 72
yeah, I’m the one wearing the tinfoil the past 3-4 years but who could blame me? The predetermined action is now getting the justifying statements in place. It happened right before our eyes. I swear it wasn’t more than a matter of hours ago that military commanders were against a “surge”
rumi - *sigh*
Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno is the torture general.
we are screwed.
NOTHING will work until we get the holy hell out of there. The White House can dress it up all fancy and purty like they always do, but it’s just completely flawed and pointless until we extricate ourselves so Bush can be the conquering hero. It’s all about “LEGACY” to him, that selfish arrogant greedy bastard. All he wants to do is save face. F**k, he doesn’t even have a face left. I’m out.
what do you call a “moderate” iraqi?
dead.