An example is the propaganda lie that FAIR employs, “anchor babies.” This term originated regarding Irish and Italian immigrants to the U.S. in the 19th century, and has been reinvented by FAIR. However a little Googling will reveal that the numbers of these so-called anchor babies is complete fiction, and varies wildly (on the order of 200% difference) from citation to citation. Actual numbers derived from simple statistical analysis of ALL births reveal the FAIR ‘anchor baby’ numbers to be pure fiction.

I appreciate that there are issues surrounding immigration in the southwest, but using numbers from FAIR or CIS is not going to help. FAIR and CIS are racist liars.

This racist “Zorro” seems to be having a bit of an identity crisis I’m afraid – his fictional namesake fought for the peasants and also for Mexican rule of California. Oh, the irony…

Ironman resorting to sissy, race card tactic, now that is ironic. I have no arguement, so I will use the only thing available to me. Name calling and the race card. How 1960’s is that.

Zorro is fighting for the peasants. The peasants known as United States Citizens.

“Thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of Americans are right now sharing their identities with immigrants and don’t know it. It is the dirty little secret of the immigration issue: By not dealing directly with the undocumented worker situation, the U.S government is actually encouraging identity theft. In fact, one can argue that the origins of the identity theft epidemic can be traced to the immigration issue.

The scope of this problem is vast. Every year, nearly 9 million people pay their taxes using the wrong Social Security number. The name used on W-2 tax forms used by employers doesn’t match the name on file with the Social Security Administration. There can be many reasons why — a data entry typo by a human resources department, a woman changes her name after marriage and forgets to report it, or a man uses someone else’s SSN to get a job.

Social Security calls this a “no-match” situation. When this happens, the Social Security Administration collects the money, but the wage credits go into limbo. They don’t end up on anyone’s annual Social Security statement, they end up in something called the Earnings Suspense File. Since 1984, when the Social Security card employment verification requirement kicked in, nearly $500 billion in wages has ended up in that file.”
http://redtape.msnbc.com/2006/…..t_of_.html

We truly need honest constructive dialog to fix this problem, for the good of our country and for the good of our immigration policy and its affect on all people.

Nuh-uh. go think again. Take your faux outrage out on those who hate people for their color. I hate the actions,but I am still fully aware that there’s a human being behind those words of hate. Perhaps not a very thoughtful person, nor one I’d want in my house, but still a human.

The words I see from Zorro and others here are simply words, but they hurt — and they are lies. And when you can call THEM down for their lies, then you are free to hassle me about what I said. Sure I’m angry — and I know my words are ugly, too. Perhaps it’s because ugliness begets ugliness, even in those of us who try NOT to be ugly. think about that before you lecture me again.

D

voiceofreason @
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Posted on the home page…

Moreover (I can’t make this up), something calling itself “Voice of Reason” came by our blog yesterday to say, “Second, concentration camps would be too good for these invaders. Yes they are invaders. If we can invade Iraq with 150,000 troops, the US can be invaded by 1 million or more illegal aliens per year. If that is not a invasion, I don’t know what is.” Um, yeah. Thanks for making my point for me, there, “Voice of Reason.” Please take your meds, then report to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The only point that I proved for you is that you cannot counter my comments with rational thought. Rather you hold my comments out to your Royal (blog) Subjects, none of which would dare make notice of the “Emporer’s New Clothes”. A common characteristic among sheep. What do you call a constant flow of millions of people coming into a country that simply, by law don’t belong there? No need to grandstand, rather discuss and answer the question. If you are capable.

dejah @
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To the rightwingnuts who somehow think it’s okay to spew vomitous hate while commenting on the plight of children (American citizens, by the way) who are being hurt by our government’s actions against their parents: I’m tired of you people. I’m tired of your hate, your self-righteous fuck-ass attitudes toward those less-fortunate than you. I’m tired of you using religion as a murder weapon and bludgeon.

These children you love to hate are real, living human beings. But, I keep forgetting that you assholes of the right only care about children when they’re fetuses. Once they’re born, you could hardly care less about them. And, if they’re brown, why you huys just hug yourselves in righteous hatred.

So, go away you nasty little people. GO fuck yourselves. And please stop calling yourselves patriotic Americans. You’re not. And you’re not Christians either. And you never will be. I don’t know what you are, but you’re not people that I would recognize as human beings. You make me sick with your hatred toward anything that doesn’t meet your increasingly retarded (im)moral values.

(stepping down from soapbox and looking for people who care about others)

I suggest you read your post before talking about others garnering hatred. Everything you accuse the pro enforcement advocates of you did in that last post. In fact, I haven’t seen a more hateful post. Your post mirrors what you supposedly hate. Even after you get beyond your shrill hater comments, the absurdity of your accusations that we are not humans, christians or patriots, is all that remains. Similar to your remark that you know these children are “citizens”. Maybe citizens of the make believe world situated in your mind, but not in a world of reality.

Grow up.

You have hatred in your heart and it shows. And yes, wearily, I have to surmise that you are one of those who can’t see beyond skin color to care about actual human beings.

So, go rest. Take a prozac. Get some help. And, when you talk to your therapist, please let him or her know that you think you can read minds.

D

Zorro @
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dejah @
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(stepping down from soapbox and looking for people who care about others)

you know what I care about you slobbering liberal? I care about the millions of Americans who have had their IDENTITIES STOLEN and used by illegal aliens but oh wait they just want to work right? I care about the victims of MURDER and RAPE by illegal aliens.. like Adrienne Shelley and thousands more. More Americans have been killed by illegal aliens than soldiers have died in Iraq. That’s what I care about you commie pig.

First, some claim the ICE should not have raided, because to do so was racist. The argument seems to be that if most people violating a law are of one race, then the law should not be enforced.

Then, some claim the ICE should not have raided Swift & Co. on Our Lady of Guadalupe’s feast day, as they knew, or should have known, that illegals who revere Our Lady of Guadalupe are entitled to a free pass that day no matter what they’ve done previously. This position follows directly from the New York 8th Circuit Court’s ruling that hijacking planes is not to be punished if done by Moslems during Ramadan.

Our immigration laws have no basis. “Unless you are a Native American, you have no right to say who belongs here and who does not.” Source

Finally, some claim that women with babies are immune from prosecution of all laws. No cases have been cited, presumably because at the mention of babies, all rational thought ceases.

Now maybe I’m a babe in the woods, and these arguments are routine. They’re new to me.

Zorro @
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dejah @
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To the rightwingnuts who somehow think it’s okay to spew vomitous hate while commenting on the plight of children (American citizens, by the way)

The idiotic DISTORTION of the 14th Amendment making these ANCHOR BABIES American Citizens has gone on too long. Illegals come here to plop their babies on our soil at OUR COST and we have had enough. The parents are illegal and they will be sent home. If they want to keep their families together then LET THEM TAKE THE ANCHOR BABIES WITH THEM.

These children of illegals have NO RIGHT to be American Citizens because they happened to have slid out of their mother’s womb in an American hospital or perhaps in a pay toilet in the field. These children are being USED by illegal aliens to get a ticket to stay in the US and we are sick of it.

WE WANT THEM ALL OUT OF OUR COUNTRY

Hey, wingnut, Caps Lock is your friend.

And good thing, too, because I doubt with that hateful, poisonous attitude that you have any others.