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Wow, if you really want the wingnuts to show their colors, call them on their cultural war against the brown skinned. It's impolite, I guess, to point out what Tom Schaller has demonstrated through the research, that the GOP is now very clearly and distinctly the party of the old Secessionist South, and that the driving, deciding factor in Southern, conservative, white GOP voting patterns is racial animus.
Anyway, yesterday's post set off quite the firestorm among the Christmas cultural warrior orcs, principally howling over the application of the term "concentration camp." I appended a little helpful Cliff's Notes for them at the end of my post yesterday, but I'll let my good friend Lambert at Correntewire help them out some more:
Incidentally, if I’d meant “death camp,” I would have said “death camp.” See wikipedia (sorry, CD):
In the English-speaking world, the term “concentration camp” was first used to describe camps operated by the British in South Africa during the 1899-1902 Second Boer War. Allegedly conceived as a form of humanitarian aid to the families whose farms had been destroyed in the fighting, the camps were used to confine and control large numbers of civilians as part of a Scorched Earth tactic.
Lambert explains in another comment a bit about the concentration camp corporate profiteer, Corrections Corporation of America, toward whom we'll turn our attention in a moment:
It took the Imperial Brits to invent the concentration camp; it took the Nazis to turn concentration camps into little hells; but it takes a Republican to privatize them. Sweet Jeebus…
Moreover (I can't make this up), something calling itself "Voice of Reason" came by our blog yesterday to say, "Second, concentration camps would be too good for these invaders. Yes they are invaders. If we can invade Iraq with 150,000 troops, the US can be invaded by 1 million or more illegal aliens per year. If that is not a invasion, I don’t know what is." Um, yeah. Thanks for making my point for me, there, "Voice of Reason." Please take your meds, then report to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
And what of Corrections Corporation of America? Latina Lista has the scoop on how big this 1.3 billion dollar in sales company is, so successful in Bush's post-habeas corpus America that it's been named by Forbes Magazine as one of "The 400 Best Big Companies in America." Nice work putting children and families behind barbed wire, eh? Sing it with me, "I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free."
And speaking of the children, not everyone in America is unmoved by their plight. This article comes to me from a reader in Kansas via email (emphasis added):
Meatpacking raids: Children left behind get help
By Tim Vandenack
The Hutchinson News DODGE CITY - When she first learned of the arrests last week of nearly 1,300 meatpackers suspected of being in the United States illegally, Norma Madrid-Gomez's thoughts immediately turned to the children of those workers.
"I couldn't sleep or anything," the Dodge City mother of three said.
Though the treatment of the workers - nabbed in a series of raids last week by immigration authorities - sparked her ire, foremost among her worries was what would become of the children whose parents had been detained.
That set off a fury of phone calls, culminating this week with the delivery of $21,274 in funds and a cattle truck full of aid - all of it from southwest Kansas donors - to help the children of those arrested in Cactus, Texas.
Cactus, a Panhandle city some 180 miles southwest of Dodge City, is home to one of six Swift & Co. meatpacking plants targeted in the Dec. 12 raids.
"They've generated more warmth in their hearts than the Texas Panhandle has," said Orlando Gajardo, spokesman for St. Peter and Paul Catholic Church in Dumas, Texas, which is spearheading efforts to help the affected Cactus children, who number around 160 and are overwhelmingly U.S. born.
"These kids are being saved because of the generosity of the southwest Kansas area," he said.
Still, that doesn't end the matter.
Some of the children potentially face legal separation from their detained parents if relatives, friends and others don't step in soon and formally take over guardianship, Gajardo says. St. Peter and Paul officials and others are scrambling to avoid such a development and Gajardo says they have until January.
"We do not want these kids to be split up. We don't want siblings split up. We want them to be back with their parents," Gajardo said.
[snip]
Accordingly, when those leading the southwest Kansas fundraising drive sought donors - largely from the Hispanic community - they had little trouble generating assistance. The effort, which also involved the Catholic parishes in Dodge City, Garden City and Liberal, started late last week and lasted over the weekend.
One tearful 7-year-old girl visited the Garden City studios of La Nueva, a Spanish-language radio station that made calls for donations, to give up a few toys for the Catcus kids.
"She was crying because they didn't have their parents," said Ernesto Hinojosa, a La Nueva deejay.
Father Ted Skalsky of Dodge City's Cathedral of Our Lady of Guadalupe said none of the monetary donations exceeded $100 and many were just $5 or $10, a testament to the mass of people who pitched in. Among the other donations were clothes, diapers, food, blankets and Christmas presents - enough to fill a 24-foot cattle trailer.
Note to the wingnuts: these people helping the families you've put in your concentration camps are living the spirit of Christmas. Why are you waging a racist cultural war on Christmas? If you believe God came to earth in the form of a child as a gift to the world, what does that make you, when you put swaddling babes and their mothers in Christmas concentration camps?
Finally, I had missed these other excellent links on the story. Here's a couple from our good friend Steve Benen at The Carpetbagger Report, one from yesterday and one from last week. Digby weighed in on this yesterday as well. Common Dreams has more.
UPDATE on Relief Efforts: They all appear to be very grassroots and local. Here's one, via ck in the comments:
Info from a Square State diary –
How you can support workers and their families Coloradans that wish to support the SWIFT workers and families who have been separated and left without income can make a donation payable to:
“Our Lady of Peace Catholic Church” with “fund for families affected by ICE” in the memo-line.
Mail to: Our Lady of Peace; Att: Rev. Bernard Schmitz; 1311 Third Street Greeley, CO 80631. Phone: 970.353.1747. Your contribution will go towards emergency rent and food expenses.
Link to the Colorado for Immigrant Rights Coalition (CIRC) Website
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MERRYGREGIOUS!!
Oh lord, the worst ever Christmas special is playing right now and I’m manning the board at work. Can I just go into a coma until January third or fourth?
I believe the world’s largest concentration camp today is named Gaza. And since we (the U.S send large money to the wardens of this camp, we help to maintain it.
I really shouldn’t cry at work like this.
Ich bin ein flan.
Pach — well done. Thanks for continuing to focus a spotlight on this travesty.
Thanks Pach - does anyone know of a link where one can donate to the families? Forgive me if I missed it.
They will come for your sons and daughters first to take the bullets and bombs from the Iraqis. Then they will come for the poor and old. Anyone in a uniform is the enemy. Believe it.
A Parable For Our Times
Bill Moyers
December 22, 2006
The scale of the disorder in our national priorities right now is truly staggering; it approaches moral anarchy. Alexander Hamilton, the conservative genius of the financial class, warned this could happen. Speaking to the New York State legislature in 1788, he said:
As riches increase and accumulate in few hands; as luxury prevails in society; virtue will be in a greater degree considered as only a graceful appendage of wealth, and the tendency of things will be to depart from the republican standard. This is the real disposition of human nature: It is what, neither the honorable member nor myself can correct. It is common misfortune, that awaits our state constitution, as well as others.
Conservatives who revere the founding fathers tend to stress the last point—that there is nothing to be done about this “common misfortune.” It is up to the rest of us, who see the founding fathers not as gods but as inspired although flawed human beings—the hand that scribbled “All men are created equal” also stroked the breasts and thighs of a slave woman, whom he considered his property—to take on “the tendency of things ” to “depart from the republican standard,” and hold our country to its highest, and most humane, ideals.
As stewards of democracy, we, too, have a covenant—with one another.
http://www.tompaine.com/articl....._times.php
And what sanctions will the Swift Company be paying for placing undocumented workers into this situation in order to obtain low-cost (read more-profitable) labor?
Will the children of Swift Company executives be without their parents this Christmas?
Will Swift Company executives be spirited away to a concentration camp?
Thought not.
lemma @ 7
I’ve been wondering the same thing. All relief efforts so far have been very local, from what I can tell. You might try to email the writer of the Kansas article: his email is at the byline of his original piece, but I deleted it in my quote to spare him some wingnut attention.
If you find anything out, let me know. I’m very interested in getting coordinated nationally with latino and immigrant national advocacy infrastructure, but my sense is the groups are pretty fragmented and not very organized on a national, political level.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 9
Very well done article from Bill Moyers. I sent an email to my Senators yesterday about this and I hope others have written as well.
pach- as important as your post is, the “breaking news” right now on cnn and msnbc is the duke rape case and where the p*nises of the 3 accused has been in explicit detail. My god it is 3:30 in the afternoon and this guy has described more sex acts than anyone would want to hear, much less my children n the next room.
How much more news worthy is the topic you have chosen? Ya think?!
Jeez!
Oklahoma kiddo @
4
Amen!
But Pach’s post hits me in the groin. Hard. I’ll explain.
I was busy moving snow and cleaning for our solstice party yesterday, so didn’t read yesterday’s article on this subject until today, Pach. Good work!
From 1986 through 1993 I worked in the private corrections industry. From 1992 to 1995 I held stock in CCA. I watched the privatized prison industry grow from Salvation Army clone halfway houses into the beginnings of what it now is - a real concentration camp system. When I bought CCA stock, they were operating about 1,500 beds, mostly in the South. When I sold out - after the first articles about inmate abuse came out - they were up to about 9,000 beds. I think they’re up to about 70,000 nominal beds now, but some of their 250-bed facilities for immigrants are now holding over twice that many.
The privatization of prisons and detention centers has become evil. The true scale of political donations made by these companies rarely come to light. The company I worked for set up dummy companies to funnel donations to select politicians in ways which got double or even quadruple the state limit to their candidates.
My focus when I started working in the business was my training in counselng and rehabilitation. But, as the country - GOP and Dem - turned away from rehabilitation concepts in the late 80s and toward the current paradigm of punishment, I was fortunate to be offered employment in arts education, where I’m still working.
The recent push toward institutionalized torture, begun during the Clinton years, but highly developed under W’s regime is just another set of steps down a slippery slope that I participated in and helped create.
Makes me feel like sh*t….
Pachacutec @ 11
Pach - I have emailed Tim - will let you know what I find out.
Pachacutec @
11
I just spoke to some people in Dumas TX and have a message put in to the gentleman organizing the relief effort in Dumas. His name was mentioned in the article, Orlando Gajardo, and I hopefully will hear from him shortly about coordinating donations to the effort.
From the Bill Moyers piece:
“But no mere parchment of words divulged the principles that ultimately preserved the union. They were written in blood—thousands upon thousands upon thousands of dead Americans.”
I was thinking this morning about the statement attributed to George W. Bush that the U.S. Constitition is “nothing but a goddamned piece of paper.” I have no doubt that is what he believes. But we know the Constitution is much more than that. I think the Moyers quote describes that well.
I have not yet even received an auto-email response from my Senators and Congresswoman, all of whom I’ve emailed about this Christmas travesty. Do the ‘critters shut off their email during the holidaze? I’ll try some calls to local offices this afternoon and report back here if phones are answered.
Pach, you deserve tremendous credit and applause for continuing to bring this dishonor to our attention. I’m reminded of that prayer that ends, “… and then they came for me.” I have to admit, I thought teh gays would get boxcarred first. Now I’m sure I need to speak up for these families. For no other reason than to save them, and others whose imprisonment will be based on their unprotested treatment.
… oh, and:
Troops
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Pach,
Bless you for continuing to post on this subject.
Don’t stop.
Don’t let those poor souls be forgotten
Thankfully, Mexico is working hard to make sure that the Nazis in the Bush INS don’t get their way.
I urge everyone to call their Democratic Congressmembers and demand that they directly collaborate with the Mexican government to make sure that these racist xenophobic mean-spirited deportations stop. Immediate citizenship for all!
Please, please, please, call your representatives and tell them to join with LULAC, MALDEF, and the Mexican government in demanding an immediate end to these deportations and demanding that they immediately pass immigration reform!
Info from a Square State diary –
Link to the Colorado for Immigrant Rights Coalition (CIRC) Website
OT,
Someone had asked in a previous thread whether Murray Waas had a book. Here is a linky
to his book, set to be published in February
of 2007. With Emptywheel’s saga, it will be a
1-2 punch… Perhaps they are nailing Waas
for his Plame work… if so, Waas and Wheeler are very close to the truth… how’s that for a conspiracy theory?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/o.....0786717521
Jack
One of the primary problems as I see it with corrections, (from the perspective of a former juvenile and adult probation officer) is that the public screams about crime and the rest, but doesn’t want to fork out the money to seek solutions. Solution? It goes like this: money first, then education and then a job. A decent and meaningful job. And there’s the NIMBY crap too.
I took the time to read every article linked to this piece.
Not once, did I see mention of fines,tickets, or any summary action against the meat packing plant employer. Not once.
This , I believe, is illegal activity on the part of the employer ,yes?
I just found out that a high Tibetan lama — a rinpoche to be precise, an incarnate lama — has been in one of the Texas “concentration camps” for the last twenty days or so. His name is Jampa Sonam and he was arrested trying to go into Canada near Buffalo and after being detained there, was shipped to Texas. He is in his mid twenties.
A coworker of mine just had to translate a better from Tibetan into English from the monastic community that he belongs to to the Dalai Lama in order to provide evidence that this man is in fact a revered religious figure.
He wasn’t part of one of the big roundups, but it’s a remarkable story nonetheless, particularly given the reflexive action of shipping someone to one of these camps.
Another thing, after reading Matt Brown Hamlins piece,Texas seems to be the ‘go to’ place for these incarcerations.
Coinkydink? I don’t think so.
ck: As ever, my thanks. Updated. Please refresh, everyone.
Bustednuckles @ 24
Shockingly, the Wall Street Journal is not insane on this point:
MBH: He’s brown, no? He qualifies.
Link for the Wall Street Journal Op Ed.
WSJ is speaking for the big corporate lobbyists, who simply want to keep the supply of cheap, exploitable, disposable labor at its beck and call without government interference.
For any who may have missed that part of the story, and its economic implications, please see yesterday’s post, linked at the beginning of this one.
Go read this, please, for more info on the Ice capades possible next move.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/.....s0421.html
Pachacutec @ 31
And what of the DLC? Is this group guiltless on this issue?
Bustednuckles @ 32
Bad link.
Pachacutec @
29
Yep, he’s brown. And though I don’t know for sure, it’s very likely that he was dressed in his monk’s robes (that is, he looked different).
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 34
Try again, I messed up the first try.
Bustednuckles @ 32
Couldn’t find one, not ONE reference to Sasha Cohen at this link. ?
Just talked to a staffer in my California Congressman Sam Farr’s local office who assured me she would track him down and give him my most urgent message to intervene officially and on the record immediately.
Stay tuned. Meanwhile I’m off to telephone DiFi’s office and Barbie JoeMomentum Boxer - and demand a reply today. Don’t have to do that with Sam Farr - he respects his constituents 24/7 unlike his senate colleagues. Sigh!
Pach, I’d say if folks like “Voice of Reason” are disagreeing with you, you’re doing something right. Incidently, why don’t folks who pride themselves on their reasoning skills ever seem to have a good grasp of their native language? I don’t think he managed a single sentence that didn’t have a spelling mistake or grammatical error.
Anyway, this thing is part of a very alarming trend in our government. The prison population in general is at alarming levels, and the only interest our legislators seem to take in this phenomenon is how many new prisons they can get built inside their own districts.
With regard to ET’s comments at 14:
I have a friend who got caught in a “If I give you more names, can I get a reduced sentence?” game. My friend was not involved but he had a shiny airplane with nice electronics that the Feds seized. Never charged him with a thing, until he went to court to get his plane back.
Next thing we knew he was being shuffled all over the country. Sometimes three prisons a day. Each one got to charge for a new intake, him, that day. And of course, we couldn’t find him for about a week, as we were always several prisons behind and what was our connection to him that we deserved any information, anyway?
That is only the beginning of a long, sorry saga. Much, much profit in private prisons.
Patrick 4/4 @ 28
So, did Swift’s last check to the RNC bounce?
Call me a purist. But when I see the Republicans getting called out for the same things the Demos (my party) do and support, and get a pass for, I get out of sorts. I am thinking here of support for the Iraq war, blind support for what the Israeli government and military do and other things like Democratic support for things like ‘looking the other way on corporate employment of illegals (at the expense of American workers and union people) and NAFTA, CAFTA and the so called “third-way”.
For profit prisons can only lead to American Abu-facisim.
Someone posted at the end of yesterdays thread the salary of several employees at Corrections Corporation of America. That is taxpayers money folks. I would imagine a whole lot of fine public correctional employees are feeling about like a soldier working alongside high paid militia or contractor. Underpaid, bitter and a little stupid for trying to do the right thing.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 42
Corruption is bipartisan.
OT but interesting comments from an article in the NYTimes
Haditha Residents on Charged Marines: Let Us Have Them
Comment posted by Luis at SquareState –
Then They Came for Me by Stephen F. Rohde, Esq.
http://www.janrainwater.com/htdocs/Rohde.htm
Stephen Rohde is indebted to the inspiration of Rev. Martin Niemoller (1937).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.....ame…
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 44
Yes. And it makes me unhappy. And angry. It goes the the old ‘not much light shining’ between the two parties thing.
Pachacutec @ 31
I agree. But if the corporate end is unwilling to support the outright demonization of immigrants, that stance can be exploited right back.
The key here is mass deportations do not have corporate support, racial profiling does not have corporate support.
The WSJ and the preznit are on record calling for a “humane” immigration policy.
We have to define for them what that means.
Just sent an e-mail to my senators and representative, for whatever good it will do. Interestingly, Sen. Cantwell’s e-mail form doesn’t even have “Civil Rights” or “Justice” as possible subjects.
OT - Shuttle heading toward Florida landing
Back real quick to update y’all on my calls to Senators and my Congresswoman.
Got DiFi’s answering machine here in SF (415-393-0707).
Got somebody in Boxer’s DeeCee office to agree to “pass along my concerns:” (202-224-3553).
Got somebody in Pelosi’s office to do the same: (202-225-4965).
I contrasted the treatment of these employees and their children with the likely wonderful Xmas morning to be celebrated in the homes of the Swift executives and management across our wonderful country.
Matt, I can’t believe a holy person is being treated this way. It — the unraveling of the great American experiment in human rights and democratic values — may actually be happening as we watch the Xmas star rise on Monday morning.
… oh, and:
Troops
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NOW
The hypocrisy in my party is really starting to wear thin and to grate. I mean the Bush guys have asked Congress, a Democratic Congress, not incidentally, to provide $100 billion more, from you and me, to fight this phony war in Iraq. What’s the prob Dems? Just say no. I wonder what Olbermann or Chomsky might say about this?
Matt Stoller weighs in:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/12/22/162145/97
Hi ALL! Merry Christmas to so many of you. Good article Pach.
If you wanna see some scary follow up to it, go Google “FEMA Camps”. My site still comes up in the first page or two for this video. At the end of the above post which I did way back in March of last year, there is a link to a newer post on my site called “ENDGAME” Which is the actual name of the actual ICE Immigration and Dentention plan produced by the Govt. (PDF file from the Gov copied and hosted)
Some scary stuff. Now that Ahnuld has decided to give away $11 Billion of CA’s money to prison corporation builders and shiesters, it’s martinis all around for the peddlers of prison.
‘Scuse me for being a bit slow (its kinda in my nature). This was probably obvious to everybody right from the start, but the point of the “identity fraud” pretext has only just really dawned on me.
Sure it was useful to obtain a warrant to “legitimize” the round up. But the real genius was that it allows the employers to protray themselves as innocent dupes in the whole deal. Victims, no less, of the evil illegals.
Oh yeah… a Merry New Year (Eddie Murphy, “Trading Places”).
So the War on Messikuns is alive and well in ‘murka? Oh, yeah. Feliz Navidad, kids, Mama and Papa are locked up in private facilities (I’m only surprised they’re not run by CheneyBurton) for the duration of the Hollerdaze’n’ beyond.
Meanwhile:
Because you know, there’s not Terra-rist like a Messikun Terra-rist workin in a meat packin’ plant, slaughtering animulz, is there? (Where’s all the White Women? (Cleavon Little, “Blazing Saddles”))
Osama? Bin Forgotten. Messikuns? The New Muslims? Looks like 2 me… 1000 Federal agents, I hope they’re proud of themselves this holiday season. Real proud.
Very interesting write up from the inside:
America’s Immigration Endgame
http://xicanopwr.com/2006/12/americas-endgame/
I’d like to see how, we (presumptively Progressives) are supposed to bring corporate America into “our fold”. That would be a neat trick. The idea is, I guess to convince CEO’s, corporate boards and shareholders of the overriding importance and ‘greater-good’ of ‘corporate responsibility’? Say… as opposed to the merits of profits.
looseheadprop @
19
what lhp said
How many federal agents does it take to screw…oh, never mind.
Pachacutec @ 54
Hey Pach, Be sure to check out the couple minute video of an abandoned railway yard being turned into an “Emergency Detention Center” in my comment above. And if you haven’t read it, the PDF file link at the bottom to ICE’s “ENDGAME” is a frightening read. The title of the Government Document is:
ENDGAME: Office of Detention and Removal - Strategic Master Plan 2003 - 2012.
Tell me if that doesn’t have the ominous ring of a Republican version of a “Final Solution”.
lhp, Susan in Iowa:
I’m not letting this go. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
We’re not letting go either. I have not talked to anyone about this who had not already heard that a breastfeeding baby was separated from its mother. I have to believe that the outrage is going to cross party lines eventually.
The DLC IS anti-progressive.
Nate @
55
Nate,
I’d heard about this video, but this is the first time I’ve seen it. Whoa!
Check it out, pups. The gas lines to the enormous furnaces somehow bother me more than anything else….
Lou Costello @ 58
Merry Christmas Lou… Been a long time. How’s thigns?
More than 3,700 identification badges and uniform items have been reported lost or stolen from Transportation Security Administration employees since 2003, according to documents obtained by a San Antonio television station.
http://chron.com/disp/story.mp.....20374.html
Nate @ 62
Nate that video was made by a well known nutcase in my hometown about ten years ago. She’s been claiming they want to use the Amtrak Yards in Beech Grove, about 5 miles from my house, as a detention center for FEMA. Trouble is its bullshit, I know people that work there who checked out the video and point by point explained everything she said is a lie.
Is the subject of ICE’s role in the murders at the House Of Death in Juarez Mexico well known here at FDL?
So, American citizens who break the law go to jail, and illegal immigrants who break the law go to “concentration camps”? Why is it OK to jail citizens and not illegals? Why the double standard?
Ed*ard Teller @ 66
Thanks ET. I found that one a long time ago. I know what you mean about the gas lines but a friend who designs big habitat systems said it looks like a means of providing heat to large indoor mass-housing units and not the more sinister use the video makes it sound like. Either way, the video is of just one such facility. If you read the link to the “Endgame” post at the bottom of it and you read the Govt’s “plan”, it mentions stuff like the problems of mass-transiting so many people and recommends usage of rail-lines for their proven efficiency of transporting massive “detainees”. Put that with the video which is a facility built at the end of an abandoned rail line and facility and it starts to make more sense.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 69
I’m sure that much of the video IS BS Toobz. If you ignore the commentary and just look at the actual construction that is shown, you can see some disturbing facts Toobz. Not the least of which is barbed-wire facing inwards. The only reason to do that is to keep people in, not out.
Nate @ 72
This is a currently operating Amtrak repair facility where they repair passenger cars. The gas lines are for the propane they use to weld with. The rail lines are not abandoned and bring hundreds of railcars to this facility on a regular basis.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 74
I’m not trying to be contrary here Toobz, but you don’t use volume propane to weld High Yield steel used on rail. You use oxy-acetylene. Propane is a clean burning, low-temp gas and would be completely impractical for such usage.
You may well be completely right that that video is bogus. I’ve never seen the place and don’t know any who have personally. But if you take the time to read the Government’s Official plan that I linked to above, you’ll see that it details out the plan for creation and/or usage of facilities such as places like what’s in the video. Not saying that’s what it is… But the actual official government plan does call for facilities exactly of that nature for use as mass detention centers for immigrants.
Nate @ #72,
t mentions stuff like the problems of mass-transiting so many people and recommends usage of rail-lines for their proven efficiency of transporting massive “detainees”.
Last year, when Lindsay Beyerstein was taking pictures of detention facilities for NOLA Katrina victims, somebody linked to a picture of massive railcars being built for the government. They were like mobile prisons, with leg and arm shackle attachment points for hundreds in each car already built in. By now, the government has had almost a hundred of them built.
I can personally assure you Ive looked into the “Beech Grove FEMA Camp” non story and it was debunked long ago. The nut, Linda Thompson, is a local militia movement supporter who defends racists and tax protestors in her law “practice”. I think she may have even been disbarred in recent years for her antics. She is a local gadfly who has been touring gun shows for years with that video and has ties to the same Michigan Militia unit Tim McVeigh was involved with. Don’t fall for the bullshit.
But there IS a black helicopter flying over as they take the video….
OT and FYI Shuttle landing in 4.5 minutes on CNN now.
Ed*ard Teller @ 78
LOL…
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 77
I didn’t realize Linda Thompson made that video. She’s a militia icon for her Waco movie, which is a bit nutty, but brings up many important points.
I think over the years I’ve become quite hardened to the insane violence and pathological hatred that pervades this country and our foreign policy of genocide over the last 6 years, but this one really struck me as a new low.
It’s impossible for America to feel ashamed of herself these days. Not as long as we have authoritarian loving fascists like “Voice of Reason” to help us along.
As an attorney I’m deeply saddened that the rule of law has been so shamelessly disregarded and we have become an image of our enemies during the cold war, gulags and all.