Comments on: The Follow-Ups That Never Get Asked http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:03:43 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: jayackroyd http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-426912 jayackroyd Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:00:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-426912 <p>OT:</p> <p>If you’re missing <a href="http://eschaton08.blogspot.com/">atrios</a> you can find his temporary lodgings here. via Josh Marshall.</p> OT:

If you’re missing atrios you can find his temporary lodgings here. via Josh Marshall.

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-426318 Adie Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:33:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-426318 <p><a href="#comment-425778"><em>perris @<br /> 114 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-425744"><em>Adie @ 110 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-425641"></a></p> <p><em>ip ban indeed - woof!</em> *settles back on silk pillow*</p></blockquote> <p>hmmm…I think you misunderstood my post</p> <p><a href="#comment-424772"><em>perris @ 109 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-424770"><em>Adie @ 108</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>whack-a-troll! no mercy ;-></p></blockquote> <p>ip ban</p></blockquote> <p>that was aimed at the person you were talking to, not to you.</p> <p>if missunderstood, sorry</p></blockquote> <p>apologies from here back at ya. Too much ‘on-edge’ here, to the point of frantic for January to come - as if that’ll fix things, groan…<br /> impeachment couldn’t come soon enough in my book of well-deserved back-splash twd the current occupant of that bigwhitecottage.</p> perris @
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Adie @ 110

ip ban indeed – woof! *settles back on silk pillow*

hmmm…I think you misunderstood my post

perris @ 109

Adie @ 108

whack-a-troll! no mercy ;->

ip ban

that was aimed at the person you were talking to, not to you.

if missunderstood, sorry

apologies from here back at ya. Too much ‘on-edge’ here, to the point of frantic for January to come – as if that’ll fix things, groan…
impeachment couldn’t come soon enough in my book of well-deserved back-splash twd the current occupant of that bigwhitecottage.

]]> By: Rick B http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-426225 Rick B Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:16:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-426225 <blockquote><p><i>expand the military (and, btw, how do we plan on doing that in a voluntary military when we are barely meeting recruiting goals now?</i></p></blockquote> <p> They will do it the same way they met the goals in FY 2006. They will continue to lower the standards for acceptance, increase the bonuses for enlisting, and then they will continue to retrain instead of washing the failures out of Basic training and Advance Individual training. </p> <p>See? Not hard at all - until you realize that the girl in the Abu Ghraib pictures (Lindy England??) was not qualified intellectually to get into the active duty military, but the Reserves were already desperate so they gave her the kinds of waivers we are talking about for the active duty military now.</p>

expand the military (and, btw, how do we plan on doing that in a voluntary military when we are barely meeting recruiting goals now?

They will do it the same way they met the goals in FY 2006. They will continue to lower the standards for acceptance, increase the bonuses for enlisting, and then they will continue to retrain instead of washing the failures out of Basic training and Advance Individual training.

See? Not hard at all – until you realize that the girl in the Abu Ghraib pictures (Lindy England??) was not qualified intellectually to get into the active duty military, but the Reserves were already desperate so they gave her the kinds of waivers we are talking about for the active duty military now.

]]> By: john in sacramento http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425935 john in sacramento Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:28:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425935 <p>Christy</p> <blockquote><p>Clearly someone needs to restock the White House magnetic speechwriting kit…</p></blockquote> <p>Already on it. <a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10340.htm"><b>More</b>, post-it notes</a>!!!</p> Christy

Clearly someone needs to restock the White House magnetic speechwriting kit…

Already on it. More, post-it notes!!!

]]> By: alyssa http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425929 alyssa Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:19:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425929 <p>He knows exactly what to do and he is doing it. Occupying Iraq and paving the way for international oil companies to take over Iraq’s fields, and using US troops to keep them there - and we will continue to stay there in this capacity forever. You can’t ‘win’ an occupation - win means pack up and go home. He doesn’t care how many Iraqis and US soldiers die to achieve this goal. Probably he has convinced himself that it is a noble goal to keep all that wealth away from the brown people.</p> <p>For that matter, he probably doesn’t even want the insurgency to end - not escalate, perhaps, but certainly not die down because then we would have no reason to be there. Maybe inflaming them with Guantanamo and Abu Ghirab was an effort to ensure a good, stable insurgency.</p> <p>The problem is, he can’t think of a different excuse to be doing what he’s doing, and it’s certainly no good telling the truth.</p> He knows exactly what to do and he is doing it. Occupying Iraq and paving the way for international oil companies to take over Iraq’s fields, and using US troops to keep them there – and we will continue to stay there in this capacity forever. You can’t ‘win’ an occupation – win means pack up and go home. He doesn’t care how many Iraqis and US soldiers die to achieve this goal. Probably he has convinced himself that it is a noble goal to keep all that wealth away from the brown people.

For that matter, he probably doesn’t even want the insurgency to end – not escalate, perhaps, but certainly not die down because then we would have no reason to be there. Maybe inflaming them with Guantanamo and Abu Ghirab was an effort to ensure a good, stable insurgency.

The problem is, he can’t think of a different excuse to be doing what he’s doing, and it’s certainly no good telling the truth.

]]> By: Lex http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425916 Lex Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:06:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425916 <p><i>Chris at 27: “There is only a hint of a smirk in this photo.”</i></p> <p>I heard the news conference on the radio this morning, and I thought, “He doesn’t know what to do. He literally <i>does not know what to do</i>.”</p> <p>This is where the reporter who is worth a darn says, “Mr. President, isn’t it true that you have no plan whatever to achieve a stable, peaceful, democratic Iraq? Isn’t that true, Sir?”</p> <p>But we have no reporters at the White House who are worth a darn.</p> Chris at 27: “There is only a hint of a smirk in this photo.”

I heard the news conference on the radio this morning, and I thought, “He doesn’t know what to do. He literally does not know what to do.”

This is where the reporter who is worth a darn says, “Mr. President, isn’t it true that you have no plan whatever to achieve a stable, peaceful, democratic Iraq? Isn’t that true, Sir?”

But we have no reporters at the White House who are worth a darn.

]]> By: *ilbo http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425904 *ilbo Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:48:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425904 <p><a href="#comment-425646"><em>GSD @<br /> 24 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>“Our enemy is innovative and resourceful and so are we. Our enemy never stops thinking of new ways to harm us and our country, and neither do we.”<br /> -George.W. Bush</p></blockquote> <p>:(</p> GSD @
24

“Our enemy is innovative and resourceful and so are we. Our enemy never stops thinking of new ways to harm us and our country, and neither do we.”
-George.W. Bush

:(

]]> By: Titanyum http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425813 Titanyum Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:27:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425813 <p>Our loss in Iraq stems mainly from our miserable execution of the peace. Paul Bremer probably is the major goat in this. But what has been done is done - the victory train has left the station more than 3 years ago and we can’t catch it any more. We lost this war. The end will come when even our President finally will admit to defeat. I know we have to drag him screaming and struggling to such a position. The sooner he admits it, the more American soldier’s lives can be saved.</p> Our loss in Iraq stems mainly from our miserable execution of the peace. Paul Bremer probably is the major goat in this. But what has been done is done – the victory train has left the station more than 3 years ago and we can’t catch it any more. We lost this war. The end will come when even our President finally will admit to defeat. I know we have to drag him screaming and struggling to such a position. The sooner he admits it, the more American soldier’s lives can be saved.

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425792 perris Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:10:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425792 <p>newest thread with a hat tip to rayne</p> <p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/whats-that-smell/">http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....hat-smell/</a></p> newest thread with a hat tip to rayne

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..hat-smell/

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425788 mui Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:07:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/20/the-follow-ups-that-never-get-asked/#comment-425788 <p><a href="#comment-425754"><em>mui @ 112 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-425745"><em>Rayne @ 111 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>mui (100) — I’ve always wondered if there were outside influences involved in the attack on the shrine in Mashad, just as I do in the case of the al-Askari shrine. I’m not ready to subscribe to the idea that any Muslim would do this for sectarian reasons.</p> <p>On the other hand, historically speaking, would Protestants have done this to Catholic churches and vice versa? Hmm.</p></blockquote> <p>During the Counterreformation? Absolutely.</p></blockquote> <p>Oh wait, let me say during the Reformation and the Counterreformation so we can give Protestants and Catholics equal opportunity.<br /> Also the church bombings of Southern black churches may bear some resemblance to today’s terrorsim, because the terrorist/segregationists are 100% certain of themselves that the “other” is fomenting rebellion in his/or her place of worship.</p> mui @ 112

Rayne @ 111

mui (100) — I’ve always wondered if there were outside influences involved in the attack on the shrine in Mashad, just as I do in the case of the al-Askari shrine. I’m not ready to subscribe to the idea that any Muslim would do this for sectarian reasons.

On the other hand, historically speaking, would Protestants have done this to Catholic churches and vice versa? Hmm.

During the Counterreformation? Absolutely.

Oh wait, let me say during the Reformation and the Counterreformation so we can give Protestants and Catholics equal opportunity.
Also the church bombings of Southern black churches may bear some resemblance to today’s terrorsim, because the terrorist/segregationists are 100% certain of themselves that the “other” is fomenting rebellion in his/or her place of worship.

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