
Let me say this slowly. It's something I've never said before.
Bush is unfit for office. He's not my president.
Now, I've called him nuts, crazy, dangerous, said he should be censured over warrantless wiretapping, and so on. I've said he's paranoid and craven and callow and cowardly. I've said his 2000 election was undemocratic and probably illegitimate, in some fashion. Selected, then elected. And even with all that, I still mentally sustained a degree of deference to him, in some corner of my mind, as President of the United States.
I've never called for impeachment and I'm still not. I'm not raving or slamming my fingers down on my keyboard. I'm feeling very calm. I'm not trying to be funny, snarky, witty or anything else. I'm just grappling with the incredible hubris. . . words fail. "Irresponsibility" is too thin. What's the word? How does one characterize the absolute contempt this man has for human life, for the expressed will of the American people, who have completely repudiated his failed occupation of Iraq, now that he's indulging his fantasies of an escalation?
I think a lot of people in the mythical middle who thought he was basically a good guy who's been stubborn and wrong are coming to the realization that he's dangerous, almost to an inhuman degree. He's pissed all over the Baker-Hamilton charade which, for all its flaws, still helped cement the notion in the popular mind that to continue is to fail. And his response is to go in exactly the opposite direction all the world, including the American public, wants him to go? I knew he would do it; I'm not saying I was surprised. But the blunt reality of it staggers.
I know we all know this stuff, and I can't account for why this is hitting me the way it's hitting me now, for as long as I've been hammering at this worst president ever. But it is.
When Bill Clinton took office, there were right wingers who, from day one, never conferred to him in their minds any shred of legitimacy, and they set about trying to take him down. They almost succeeded. They said, right after his election, "He's not my president," words we really hadn't heard said with such conviction among wide portions of the population since Lincoln was elected in 1860. But even after Bush was installed by the Supreme Court, Democrats mostly put it behind them. And after 9/11, the whole country rallied to Bush's side.
Now I'm making that statement: Bush is not my president. I'm done. Enough. Call it Bush derangement syndrome all you want, wingnuts, your guy is a criminal failure whose intransigent unwillingness to admit he's been wrong has killed thousands of people, and now he wants to kill thousands more.
I'm not arguing for impeachment, not because I don't think he's been criminal, or even because he doesn't deserve it. I believe he does. But I want the Democrats during these next two years to begin to change things, pass some good legislation. They can't pursue impeachment and do all that stuff at once. Our home, our world, is on fire. Put out the fire first. We don't have time to impeach this horrible man.
I do want vigorous investigations, and I'm a real Waxman kind of guy. Leahy, Dorgan, Conyers, the whole gang. More, more, more. Why? Because we need to educate the public and find out just how much damage has been done to the Constitution so we can set about putting things right again. Here's a test for you history buffs: of all the grievances in the Declaration of Independence, how many has Bush basically perpetrated through his administration? I don't have an answer, but if anyone wants to send me a study of some kind, a real one, just email me. I'll make it public and give you credit.
I'm not happy saying that the president of the United States is illegitimate, based on his performance and contempt for the will of the governed and the Constitution he swore to uphold. It gives me no pleasure. But I think this is a notion we all need to comprehend: he's unfit to be president. If you agree with me, say it out loud: he's not my president.
Everything he stands for is unAmerican. It just so happens that the modern Republican Party stands right with him. He's their product. The party of the South has done it again: it's tried to destroy America.
Americans can't let that happen. Preventing that from happening, and turning it all around, begins by coming to grips with some basic, unwelcome, disturbing facts. This is not a liberal conclusion, or a partisan one. It's an American one.
Not My President.
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Fitz and FDL!
ROOTZ!
I am seriously wondering if this president is “balanced”.
Hell Yeah!
NOT MY PRESIDENT!!!
mine either.
Criminal investigations are a good option. Can additional “special” federal prosecutors be appointed?
except for a brief moment after 9/11:
never. was. my. president.
Is it ethical for the American people to have views and rights when the president is supposedly fighting the evil he has created?
This whole administraiton has become a creepy clown show…just when you think it can’t get any more vulgar and profane Georgie boy gives one of his swaggering photo ops and you wonder if America can ever recover her soul…
From Day 1 I designed a logo and ironed it onto sweat shirts and t-shirts. I also made my own bumper sticker:
Josiah Bartlet is MY President.
Without the West Wing, I would not have been able to deal with the past 6 years. Anyone wants to do the same, the iron-on design is in the fun files on my site.
I’ve pretty much worn out the sweat shirt and need to make a fresh one to get through the rest of this hell.
Two more years. Oh my dear God.
egregious @ 12
I don’t think he’ll make it through 2 more years. I think he will have a breakdown first. Gilliard mentions this often too.
We gotta start chipping away at the foundation. Eventually, Bush’s house will tumble down. We have a majority in the House; let’s start issuing subpoenas for the lesser criminals, and deal.
There’s not time for impeachment. America needs Amendment XXV Section 4.
We must Section 4 him. He’s unfit. (Cheney, too.)
I don’t know why but I was dealing with the same thoughts. George W. Bush is placing a pillow over the entire nation and slowly suffocating it all while telling us that he is making us better.
It may be the wierd weather or the lack of Christmas spirit but I am profoundly sad tonight.
-GSD
RevDeb @ 13
He’s having the breakdown now.
TeddySanFran @ 15
The problem is the latter. Cheney has to go first because if he’s veep and XXV is followed, we’d never be able to get rid of Darth.
That’s what I cannot tolerate. EVERYTHING is unAmerican….EVERYTHING. There is nothing he does that is done for the benefit of this country or her people.
“If you agree with me, say it out loud: he’s not my president.”
Consider it said.
What has been clear from the very start has been his oddly inappropriate sense of decorum. The finger at the camera. The bizarre chuckle while he talked about deathly serious issues. His cruel jokes and his contempt for those who disagreed with him. His odd habit of talking to intelligent adults as though they were doltish children. His false swagger and bravado. His inexplicable reaction to the news from the WTC. It has always seemed, at least to those beyond your borders, that there was something distinctly empty and pathological about your President.
The question remains: How will the county mitigate his pernicious influence?
punaise @
8
Here, here.
I gave him a shot and he called me a traitor.
-GSD
Teddy,
He may be having the breakdown now, but until the media reports it, it ain’t happenin’.
Thank you, Pach, for this expression of my will and wish. You are a great writer and thinker. FDL is better with you here. Much.
“The party of the South has done it again: it’s tried to destroy America.”
If they secede again, let’s let them.
I was thinking today, as scary as Bush is, Cheney is civilization’s nightmare. I have the self-preserving illusion that there exists a possibility, that on any given day, Bush might listen to someone who is in touch with reality. Not so with Dr. Death. If he ever fully takes the wheel, we are gonners.
so if he’s not your president are you not American?
This is wishful thinking that we can cherry-pick what it is to be American by disassociating yourself from the horror of bush. As much as that would be terrific, it can’t happen and we have no chance of starting redemption unless bush is impeached and convicted – that is the way home.
Hopefully, it is quickly becoming clear to everyone that just because bush suffered a resounding rebuke in the midterms NOTHING CHANGED IN BUSH’S MIND. bush does not believe in America, he believes only in satisfying himself. The only chance to stop the physical and metaphorical bleeding is for bush to be behind bars as quickly as possible.
.
That’s not my monkey
Do you have to be so shrill? What would David Broder say about all of this?
egregious @ 12
Iraq, Gaza, and the whole Middle East is perched to explode. “Two more years”. I don’t think I’ll sleep too tight tonight. (; Happy holidays ;)
RevDeb @
13
Agreed.
I also think he has a physical ailment of some sort, a serious one, perhaps neurological, something affecting the brain. JMO, as I’m not Bill Frist — this is just my own speculation based on how he looks and his speech and movements.
But that’s not snark. I’m serious about that. His having to step down because of it would not surprise me in the least. (Although it will probably require an “intervention” of some sort, since I’m sure he doesn’t think there’s anything wrong.
I should add, I’ll never forgive the Republican Party for foisting him on us. Their contempt for goverance, for people, led them to pick a dolt who shares their world view and they sold him through the darkest of public relations arts to get him into office.
I’ll never forgive them for that.
“reckless disregard for reality”
Pach, your post is a far better statement of my EPUed comments downstairs.
Never was my President.
As stated below, the man is a sociopath.
But he could not inflict the damage without full complicity of a fearful American public and the Worst…Congress…Ever
And the road back to sanity is in the hands of those two groups.
Pach –
I’m with you on your comment #31.
But then again there were many people who never forgave the South for making the Civil War inevitable, too.
AMEN!
Investigate
Imprison
Impeach
And let the Democratic Congress turn this country back into something we can be proud of.
Look at the balls on Matt Damon, says they should get Cheney under oath.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._1218.html
And for anybody who says he should just shut up and act, he’s as qualified to address the topic at hand as any of those fucking idiots who pass for opinion makers.
I think the only way the Dem’s can “begin to change things and pass some good legislation” is to impeach both Bush and Cheney.
All the while these two are in charge, they will simply disregard anything and everything the Dem’s do or try to do.
Oh, and he has NEVER been an elected president as far as I’m concerned.
Exile on Ericsson St. @ 28
No f-bombs. Not a word of this would choke an editor at WaPo. Just the words in the order they’re in would never make it.
Pachacutec @ 31
Agreed. I don’t know if they were so pathologically cynical before the days of Newt, but at least since then there has been NOTHING redeeming about that party.
By this time next year, some reassuring Republican Senator will be President. Chuck Hagel, maybe. The Money Party just stopped betting on the Republicans, so those in the party with a sense of self-preservation will drive Bush and Cheney from office and replace them with Hagel, or Olympia Snowe or someone.
The investigations over the next six months are going to make Ken Starr look like the joke he really was. The embarrasment will be so great that they’ll retire Cheney for health reasons, and then push Bush out for “treatment”. The system’s already had enough. This “surge” is Bush’s death throe, if one can have a “throe”, and not just “throes”.
I’m just concerned that this kind of rhetoric will alienate centrist voters and empower the Unity ‘08 ticket, that’s all.
What I have never been able to comprehend is this: Why are all the other officials and politicians in government, all the military brass and all the courts standing by going, “Oh dear, oh dear” while this FREAK destroys our country? Why isn’t somebody in authority STOPPING him?
I had a homemade “He’s Not My President” bumpersticker on my car for several years. A year ago, somebody scratched it up pretty good, and soaped the back window of my car “Move to Iraq.”
Huh? Can anyone see the logic behind that? I can’t, other than some kneejerk parroting of “If you don’t like it (insert hot-button issue), why don’t you move to Russia!”
RevDeb @ 23
I think Olbermann helped me a lot tonight, four Special Comments one after another. My favorite: “unchecked and unbalanced.”
It’s starting. Milbank tried, as well, to get the word out, I think, in his analysis of Eagleburger’s characterization of W:
TradMed is experimenting with telling us the truth about him, around the edges, to see how we will react. And preparing the ground, tilling the popular soil, to see if the idea will sprout and what odd fruits it might bear.
OT –
Question — Hope someone knows the answer.
Downstream someone posted that Keith will be having more of this “The Year of Comments” throughout the week, saying that he made 12 comments and only showed 4 today.
Is this true? I just checked out Keith’s page at MSNBC and there’s no comment about what’s upcoming in the next few days.
I ask because Mr. K8 and I want to record to DVD all of Keith’s comments to give to Mr. K8’s brother as an extra Christmas present.
pach – you can say he’s not your president, but there’s a lot of people who don’t have that priviledge.
some of them are wearing an american uniform in iraq right now. some of them are in our gulags.
it is our duty to allow them to say “not my president” too. and imo, impeachment is our tool.
we can’t abandon them.
This dude, Drago Tesanovich, has been carrying signs and handing out “He’s Not My President” buttons and signs here in Athens, GA ever since Bush was elected. Check him out
Not Mine!
oregondave @ 43
Nope.
My President would be NORML: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._1218.html
Somebody needs to take a picture of the Jack Daniels truck pulling away from the White House
Pachacutec @ 31
Nothing could please me more than to see the GOP cast into the wilderness for this error, splintered into Theocrats, Libertarians, Buchananites, Tancredists and Newtons. Here’s hoping the eternal shame of 2000 will live in infamy, forever contaminating their brand.
The coding buttons on this comment form are hay-wire. They stick extra tags in.
Which is to say, if you see a bold tag gone hay-wire from my last comment, just refresh. I went back in and fixed it.
The Bush potential for being dangerous is exceedingly high. I don’t think this man is all that rational. Seriously.
Mrs. K8 @ 45
That was me. It seemed implied until the very end of tonight’s episode where he said that all 12 are available on the web site.
You can certainly tape tonight’s when it re-airs at midnight EST. As for the rest, we’ll have to see.
RevDeb @
18
RevDeb and Teddy -
As you read all the clauses of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment, how well do you think that its provisions deal with simultaneous incapacitation of the President and Vice President?
RevDeb –
Thanks for clarifying! I thought maybe someone was getting an email newsletter or some such with the inside scoop.
Yes, it’s a very handy thing, isn’t it, that Keith’s show repeats? We’ll definitely snag tonight’s show, but won’t bother setting the record function for tomorrow and Wednesday yet.
Goddamn, Pach, where you been???
From the beginning (or was it the end?)… I have said that Bush is not my president.
As for impeachment, I agree that the Democrats need to concentrate on both hearings/investigations and on passing legislation. Impeachment would be a distraction for them.
However, my hunch is that the findings from said hearings/investigations will be compelling enough and provide enough cover to Republicans to either impeach Bush (and Cheney?!) or at least to threaten to… as they realize that there is nothing else that will stop this man from dragging us all over the cliff by the last shreds of his pathological pride.
Mrs. K8 @ 52
What browser are you using?
SP, CPA, ianal, but:
tsf bold ital: in case of incapacitation of both, a body (that Congress would by law provide) would transmit to its President such a declaration.
I think he missed quartering troops, beyond that I think pretty much got them all
RevDeb @
13
I’ve been saying that, RevDeb (check back awhile on FDL; it’s there). I still believe it. Any decent student of behavior can see it.
besides…. he never has been mine…. just played the part, badly, courtesy misguided efforts of a bunch of enablers who should have known better….. should have cared more…..
some day, maybe one of those who promised him, “Don’t worry. You’ll do fine. We’ll do all the work. You don’t have to do a thing.”
…will have the courage to admit they never believed the puppet would break his strings…
he couldn’t do that…. after all…. he really didn’t know how to do anything on his own….
Thanks Pach for a wonderful, albeit gut-wrenching post…
I know Barbara Bush wouldn’t approve of this but her son is supposed to be our servant.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 53
fwiw, I agree…
We have to “disempower” Darth first or we are in trouble:
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 59
Firefox. Does that mean something?
(Duh, I guess so, since you asked….sheesh…red face.)
And even with all that, I still mentally sustained a degree of deference to him, in some corner of my mind, as President of the United States.
out of respect for The Presidency, I usually temper my criticisms (and always reign in any thoughts that could be remotely construed as threatening* to the office-holder; hi, NSA!). but for cryin’ out loud, Bush has brought nothing but dishonor to the position and dragged our nation into the gutter.
*(OK, so “remember polonium” was a moment of weakness)
I’ve distrusted Rudy Giuiliani since he said to his PoCommish on 9/11, “Thank God George Bush is President.” That was decidedly not my reaction.
Time’s shown me to be the better judge of the President’s character.
John H. Farr @ 57
I’ve felt it, and I’ve risen to fight him and all he stands for. I’ve just never used my public platform to call him illegitimate in such a sober fashion. It’s all hitting me on a deeper level, and I think the sentiment I express tonight will be heard a lot more once the investigations bring more to light that we knew about.
Some people really don’t know about all that stuff, or they don’t believe it. They think it’s just partisan cant. But witnesses under oath will detail a lot of things throoughly, making it all undeniable. Some things we hear will shock and stagger even us, who have been watching closely.
Sometimes I try to sniff the coming winds and put things into words. When I wrote on Memorial Day that there is not “war on terror,” I never thought the New York Times editorial page would echo my message a couple of months later, and the an outgoing Don Rumsfeld would walk back from the term before the end of the year.
I actually think this is a weak post in many respects. No links, no research. I don’t like that, actually. But I just found myself. . . speaking my mind.
A friend of mine just got it – FINALLY – these past ten days or so. He’s a Baptist minister, teaches at the local branch of Weyland Baptist College, was a Green Beret in Vietnam and Laos, and is a helluva euphonium player.
Just seven weeks ago, we had a violent disagreement. He still believed Bush was doing the nods here and there to the fundies out of genuine belief rather than cynical manipulation. Since our argument, he’s watched Bush’s public appearances more critically. Last week, he said “I can’t believe I swallowed his line hook, line and sinker!” Another conservative friend, who was standing next to us both told him “I bought it for three years. I can’t wait until this is over.”
Neither of my friends are rooting for the Dems, though, but it must be harder to admit how idiotic Bush is the longer one has believed in him.
Here’s another example of ‘California values’ for Newt Fucking Gingrich to choke on.
California sees 300th death in Iraq.
-GSD
Exile on Ericsson St. @ 28
pardon… what remote isle have you been inhabiting the last 6 yrs?
That motherfucking son of a bitch isn’t MY President, and never has been.
I need an ativan.
Pach, your dispassion and clarity will win and influence others to the cause. There is great disquiet about our President, and we must treat it soberly — he’s not.
In my view, B/H went seriously awry. They were supposed to get Junja back from the brink. But Cheney keeps whispering in W’s demented ear. Were I he, I would be in physical fear of the two cabals at war for my soul — and my office.
I thought the “shrill” comment was irony, as in, joking. Sounds like Exile really thought this was shrill.
All I can say is, if you think this is shrill, you haven’t heard me take out the flamethrower.
When Adams and Franklin wanted someone to write a declaration of independence, they wanted someone who could put into words the grievances of the colonies for a listening, eager world, in a palatable fashion. I felt my tone here tonight was rather intentionally, and genuinely, restrained.
The defining moment for me was when I read the Supreme Court decision on Dec. 12, 2000.
From that moment on, I felt, and still do, that it was coup, and that Bush never had any legitimacy in that office.
That relieved me of any guilt in thinking him a usurping, ignorant prick.
He has never been anything close to what I would or could claim to be my preznit; not his father or Ronnie, either.
I just used to bide my time and have faith in my fellow Americans.
Then came 2000 and worse, yet 2004.
I don’t think Broderella can be referenced at FDL in anything but an ironic comment, but I could be wrong….
Pach, thanks for articulating it. Now let me try:
Bush. Is. Not. My. President.
That was really hard to say, but unfortunately it’s true. I just hope we and the rest of the world can survive the rest of his “reign.” Monomania ain’t pretty, is it?
Mrs. K8 @
66
Next question: which version of Firefox are you using? If you don’t already have Firefox 2.0, please download it and see whether using it eliminates the extra tags you mentioned.
TeddySanFran @
68
if you lived thru the ghouliani years in the New York area you know that he is a freak and a megalomaniac goon. his claim to fame was going after the weakest and most disenfranchised among us and was proud of it. Other than beating up on squeegee guys, he pretty much did nothing except posture. he is pure scum and republican cultist of the first order.
.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 55
I remember reading a few (like five years?) years back that during the last 15 MONTHS of the Nixon administration, Kissinger and some NSA people would go around handing orders to the military and NSA types with the nuclear buttons and “football” thingy, telling them not to do anything wierd requested of them by Nixon. I can’t remember where, when, but when Kissinger denied the veracity of the claim, some retired military and NSA people corroborated the story.
ISG report coulda given junya some cover, but he rejected that completely.
Daddy threw him a lifeline and he flipped him the bird.
yes, I am really super worried now myself. very, very sick…
sorry, pluege, you are absolutely right, i did not mean that was when I started distrusting Rudy.
neurophius @
20
Same song, third verse.
also:
– he’s the Ted Bundy of politicians.
Teddy, I’ve stopped blaming it all on Cheney. Shrubya is as big a neocon as they come (and probably smarter than he looks, just highly disturbed)… he’s a grown up, it’s his responsibility.
Flynt Leverett’s talk is still the only C-SPAN download not working right. The error window claims the link is “outdated.”
OldCoastie @ 83
Gilliard expressed it well here last week.
Ed*ard Teller @ 87
makes sense; wait, let me go get my tinfoil hat that I never really need anymore…
I saw a t-shirt once…
“Dear God… Frank Burns is our President”!!!
Pachacutec @ 69
no weakness in this post, Pach. Someone with your background…speaking his mind…from deep within…and labelling it thus…
nitpickers dismiss it at their peril…
at least you tried…
Ed*ard Teller @ 87
from previous thread….
if c-span doesn’t work for you, steve has also put up links to newamerica’s audio (downloadable mp3) and video
ThatSinger @ 90
My S.O. calls Cheney Mr. Burns from the Simpsons.
Never was……
Never should have been…..
and is Not My President
this is an interresting narrative I have seen repeatedly over the past week
but, there is nothing really to lead one to expect that this particular tiny dose of reality would effect any change
The most respect any divergent viewpoint ever gets from the administration is lip service in place of disparagment.
OldCoastie @ 83
Gore is President – the Neocons staged a coup.
Hillary has a confession to make.
Now she says she wouldn’t have voted for the war if whe knew then what she knew now.
Yep, she’s running.
-GSD
Kathryn in MA @ 96
Bingo!
Pach, this is far and away the best post you’ve ever written. You managed to express everything I feel every day.
Thank you.
Pach said,
“I actually think this is a weak post in many respects. No links, no research. I don’t like that, actually. But I just found myself. . . speaking my mind.”
I disagree. It is not a weak post, in my opinion. It is from the heart. It is the truth. It speaks for us.
Adie @ 98
I keep thinking I am going to wake up from this nightmare.
I can only think of one word for this man.
Terrorist
Don’t have time to stay but …
I’ll say it: Impeach him
The Democratic Progressive Caucus put together an impeachment forum (I had a very, very small part) during the state Democratic convention last spring.
Links here
First impeach them, then indict them
Indicting Bush by Elizabeth De La Vega
She was one of the panelists at the forum.
My friend Bill describes it here
GSD @ 97
waaaaaaaay tooo little, toooo late.
I call BS.
Late, read the post, sorry if this is overly redundant.
Pachacutec – Sorry to disagree with you but how can someone write with certainty, as you do (and I agree with much of it), about such heinous acts and the determination to continue with them and not demand full accountability. This man is a cold hearted murderer, lying, spoiled torturing global terrorist and must be stopped by any and all legal means available to us!
Of course congress needs to move a whole lot of legislation through, but they wont be able to accomplish much with such an equal divide in parties. This country will not be set up properly to move on without condemnation of this neocon cabal, imo. John Dean has a very good article up at findlaw where he suggest congress impeach many of the little players as well and I agree wholeheartedly with him on that point in addition to prosecution of the Pres. and VP.
Without a complete spotlight and public scorn of his actions we are doomed to repeat them. As every passing day reinforces exactly the point I am making, I am not ready to make nice with such dangerous criminals ever again. Lock them up and throw away the key this time!
Small example, Ollie (fu****g) North is now in Iraq on assignment for Fox news! Our soldiers are taking bullets and dying while protecting the worst kind of American we could possibly send over there in the first place. This type of insanity as we all know is happening on such a large scale (O’beirne employment tactics) that we cannot just stroll past these war criminals once again, hoping they will just go away.
Love ya Pach. but put on the Dixie Chicks
Not ready to make nice.
Stand up for your convictions dear sir, we are counting on it.
Respectfully,
ES
It is probably wishful thinking, but my guess is that Bush will in fact be impeached and removed, with the Republicans providing the main impetus.
The longer Bush remains, the more damage to the country and also to the GOP. For self-preservation, they’re going to have to do something about this guy.
It would be in the best short-term (and probably also long-term) interest of the country if Bush were gone tomorrow. It is in the best long-term interest of the Democrats that he stick around till the end. I love my country more than I hate the Republicans, so I want him out now.
Not. My. President.
Thanks, Pach, couldn’t have said it better.
GSD @ 97
then she exercised poor judgment and should not be president. She should have spoken to Bob Graham before she voted.
we’re going to need a Truth
and ReconciliationCommissionNo, the Founding Fathers– in a time of slow-moving ships and horse-drawn carriages– set the term of a Representative at two years, and they start the impeachment process. We have plenty of time.
Reid and Pelosi have ratcheted up the time the 110th Congress will spend on the clock. They could make in seven-day weeks if they felt it necessary. One can legislate while impeaching– happens all the time, in fact, with lesser officers.
And, of course, is this legislating you call for merely political posturing? Because with Bush’s veto, it’s time and treasure spent for naught else.
TeddySanFran @
60
At this point, my best guess is that in the event of simultaneous incapacitation of the President and Vice President, the Speaker of the House would become President. (The 109th Congress having adjourned, let us hope that no constitutional crises occur for at least the remainder of this month.)
In response to your comment above, what happens if there is no Vice President who can assume the duties of an incapacitated President? Would, as you appear to be suggesting, Congress pass a law to select a body in that case? Without a sitting President, how could a bill creating the aforementioned body be signed into law?
Pat Buchanan was on MSNBC yesterday and he stated to the effect “if Bush doesnt get this thing right and right now, we won’t have to worry about the Democrats starting the process. The establishment Repugs will begin the purge to save the GOP from itself”
Some patriots, lets save ourselves, fuck the troops
So, does anyone here still think Bush is “recovering,” i.e., not drinking?
Hillary, leading the charge from the rear.
Sorry lady, to quote Pat Benetar, it’s a little too little a little too late.
-GSD
Oh, check out this gem from the good faculty and staff and SMU. They don’t want to have an Albert Speer style building in honor of Chimpy McCodpiece on their campus that brings shame on their institution.
“We count ourselves among those who would regret to see SMU enshrine attitudes and actions widely deemed as ethically egregious: degradation of habeas corpus, outright denial of global warming, flagrant disregard for international treaties, alienation of long-term U.S. allies, environmental predation, shameful disrespect for gay persons and their rights, a pre-emptive war based on false and misleading premises, and a host of other erosions of respect for the global human community and for this good Earth on which our flourishing depends.”
-GSD
neurophius @ 112
no
neurophius @ 112
I think he’s drinking and doesn’t care
neurophius @ 112
Whether he’s drinking or not, he is not and has never been “in recovery.”
If you know anything about the 12 steps, he flunks step one so would never make it to 2 let alone 12.
Bush is not my president. He’s the president of the oil barrons and the plutocrats and the richie rich kids and the loud-mouthed preachers and every scam artist and warmonger.
I loathe him.
Not my pReznit!
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pluege @
81
Oh, how right you are! If you didn’t catch it, Salon did a take-down of him recently. The title pretty well sums him up: “Two parts hubris, one part paranoia.”
http://www.salon.com/opinion/f…..index.html
He was a prick even before he was Mayor, back in the day when he was a USA for the Southern District of New York.
I’ve been criticized by many, including alot on FDL about how W is a fucking sociopath over the last several YEARS. It’s nice to see so many members of FDL freaking out in the comment section over Bushit’s pathology.
Nothing short of an Oak Stake thru the FUCKING HEART will stop Bush and Cheney. Period.
It has devolved to this dear friends.
Too bad it took so long, it seems too late in the game.
Look up a bit of history, about the famous German Field Marshal Erwin Rommel.
He was actually a very honorable man, considering the times.
He tried to address, or re-dress. the sins of his past, with a plan of action, to bad he was forced to terminate himself.
There was a photo floating around yesterday of W and Laura and someone – with glasses of Champagne … not sure where I saw it but was startled by it.
But as my favorite Jamaican bartender says Only Americans think getting drunk is an excuse for bad behavior.
OldCoastie @ 115
imo, he’s never shown any evidence that he did care…people can enable someone, but they can’t make them care about others… that comes from within…
The real frightening thought is not that Bush is a stubborn, incompetent, America hating bungler. What truly frightens me is that current conditions are much to Bush’s liking and planning. He is delivering the Iraqi oil to the American Oil companies, the billions of reconstruction money to his crony companies, exorbitant contracts to the defense industry and he is usurping the powers of a dictator. Life is just dandy in Bushville.
I just reread the Declaration of Independence in its entirity and was so impressed, as I always am when I return to that document, at how powerful and clear it is. To read it – and keep our current King George in mind while doing so – is a sobering experience.
Not my president indeed. In truth, a sorry piece of shit – and that is being kind. How is it possible that even 20% of the public still supports this criminal sociopath?
George the Second was never my President. In fact, he wasn’t even America’s President until the Supreme Court stopped the counting of ballots in Florida. I also believe that the Dems must investigate everything and the evidence to do an impeachment will rise to the surface. I do not think we can afford not to impeach him and his VP.
lina @ 107
I cannot disagree.
NOT MY PRESIDENT.
King Chowder-nuts flubs another war too.
Afghanistan in meltdown mode.
-GSD
Ed*ard Teller @ 87
FYI it’s on cspan 2 now.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 104
I’m with you 100%. We’re talking about saving our country, not about whether the Republicans will attempt to enact some future quid pro quo with regard to impeachment.
I make no claim to prescience, but GWB has terrified me from day 1.
OldCoastie @
83
It is really weird to see how life-long Repubs view this. The ones I talk to are not well-pleased with Bush. But some are getting angry at people who seem to be telling Bush he must follow the Baker report’s guidelines.
“That amounts to a bloodless coup!” this one fellow said. I was astonished. Who’s doing the cutting? Offering Bush a way out of a horrible, costly, country-endangering mess is an attempted COUP? What planet are these people from?
Gates, Bush, Cheney and the rest of these like minded characters keep harping on “failure in Iraq”. Just exactly what does ‘failure in Iraq’ mean? Oil? What?
Because no one would ever mention Unity ‘08 as a joke.
I couldn’t even finish reading your post because the Decider gets me too angry. It comes down to this: he is incompetent.
Once you accept that he is absolutely incompetent. You either must impeach, or you must find another country to park your ass in. To allow an incompetent to lead your country at any time, but especially at a time of war, should be the definition of treason. To allow a fundamentally flawed and unfit leader to continue to make disastrous decisions and to appoint other incompetents into critical positions is to consent to the slow destruction of your country.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 132
I don’t if we’ll ever know what the real motivation going in was. I don’t know that they really know, I think these nitwits just had some self-defined “noble” ideas that they figured would make them a lot of money.
Oh I don’t know. The impression here is the President, and for that matter the whole Bush family is “recovering”. Money that is. And lots of it!
Glad to hear people calling it what it is – ESCALATION, not a surge that the pseudojournalists are trying to brainwash us with. Bush has never been my president, just as Nixon was never my president. Both were mentally unbalanced and unfit to serve.
OldCoastie @ 135
The Bush family was ‘born to rule’. Just ask ‘em. ;)
Anyone heard from Rove in a while? He’s been awfully quiet since the election.
The “send more troops” trial balloon didn’t get very high, did it? 12%? That’s even worse than Cheney’s approval rating.
dipper @ 139
He likes to be thought of as a kingmaker, so my guess is he’s already eyeing his next protege.
OldCoastie at 135. My personal belief is this:
It was oil, PNAC, Neocons turning a blind eye to justice, a miserably failed son taking revenge on his father and avenging his Poppy’s perceived failures, and a desire for something to justify their quest to destroy the Constitution and install the Unitary Executive with endless power over all.
Nothing good was ever intended…
Gee Hill. I am so impressed. Now how about calling for a pull-out now.
Frank Probst @ 141
Maybe he’s advising one of the 2008 gooperhopefuls on the sly. St. McCain?
dipper @ 139
He’s up to no good.
Why the housing bust won’t cause a recession
(Newseek headline)
They only print shit like that when a recession is on the way!
Bush is not a president. The White House has been vacant since 2000. I would sooner have Barney in the White House than Bush. At least he has more intellectual ability.
so, you’e mad as hell and you’re not gonna take it anymore.
Rover picked GW
Rover also picked Frist
He’s quite a picker- cotton and otherwise.
angie @ 142
Ever since I heard bush describe himself as a “war president,” I have believed that the purpose of the War on Terra and the War on Iraq was to give him an excuse to seize unprecedented power and trample on civil liberties. It was all part of a plan.
We been doin six years of hard time- and there’re only two more left- shit we can do that standin on our heads!!!
Meanwhile- Bush is busy buildin a LEGACY—-is there a place ta puke around here?
Judy’s lost her marbles.
AP – In an explosive telephone argument that led to her firing, publisher Judith Regan allegedly complained of a “Jewish cabal” against her in the book industry and stated that Jews “should know about ganging up, finding common enemies and telling the big lie.”
adding another thought, chimpeachment is going to happen, not because congress wants to do it, Dem leaders don’t obviously, but the country is going to lead and FORCE congress to take out both Bush and Cheney. Every time I think it can’t get worse, it does. and the “surge” is supported by 12%. But sorry, he is our president, and the Constitution has a remedy for the citizen public who want to remove a batshit crazy dry drunk from the white house. Chimpeachment. The country is gonna demand it.
neurophius @ 150
I really do agree with you – what I don’t know is if this was a “discussed” topic among the neocons, or if they were just fooling themselves too while counting up their chickens in the privacy of their own minds…
I really think it may be Bush who is the Evil Genius. Cheney may just be the cheerleader and carries the appearence of the “heavy”.
I think Bush likes to call himself “war president” ’cause it gets him excited. He’s like some doofy little child playing superhero with a bath towel tied around his neck. He freakin’ thinks he can *fly*.
Yeah- if Judy’s right- then she’s screwed I guess- she just pissed off the cabal.
Before Bush Jr. I never really understood anarchy starts at the top.
Eureka Springs, AR. Could you send a link to the article by John Dean?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
As repellent as Judith Regan is and will continue to be, this looks like the Murdoch Machine is planning on grinding her into dust.
Newscorpse was all on board with the whole OJ story until it blew up, now Regan is being tossed under the bus.
How Murdoch avoids getting the treatment that George Soros gets is beyond me.
Must be the damn liberal media.
-GSD
I have been saying for awhile now that Bush is not my president. It is not easy. I am a history buff with high regard for our history and all the pomp and circumstance. But, I do not claim Bush as my President. When he did the signing statement on Torture, he ceased being my President and I will not claim him even if sent to gitmo over it.
I want his administration investigated and to answer for thier crimes =- especially wolfowitz, cheney and jr. himself.
Bush is at turns a child and a brat and arrogant. He insists on this war as a reward for his coorporate buddies to fill thier pockets and now will not leave because of his refusal to admit he was wrong. He will murder thousands more servicepeople rather than admit he was wrong. He will let the Middle East explode and take this country in a downward spiral where will we be a shadow of our former country but, he will not admit he was wrong.
His immaturity and hubris and spoiled rich kid attitude has been the most devastating thing to ever happen to this country and has effected the world for worse and unknown to what degree. We will never recover our reputation in the Middle East and be hated for thousands of years.
I laugh at jokes about him and get angry about him but, I don’t hate him. I loath him. I think he is a horrid person and it’s sad because he is so arrogant he has no clue to how he is viewed by his people or cares.
The ISG report offered Bush jr a ‘graceful’ way out of Iraq. But, for some unknown reason, he’s throwing it away. Is it arrogance?? Pride?? Stubbornness?? Insanity??
This administration is beyond incompetent. It’s crossed well past criminal. Unfortunately the Democratic party control of Congress is not sufficient enough to get and sustain an impeachment. Hearings and investigations need to be of the highest priority in such a way that the Republicans of Congress just cannot ignore it any longer. Then the Republicans of Congress can work the background with the Democrats and force Bush, Cheney, and all the rest out of office.
The Whore President?
-GSD
JML– here’s the link to Dean:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1215-25.htm
Bob Barr says:
You are not my president:
WASHINGTON (Dec. 17) – A former Georgia congressman who helped spark President Clinton’s impeachment has quit the Republican Party to become a Libertarian, saying he is disillusioned with the GOP on issues such as spending and privacy.
(Huffington)
angie @
142
angie – shouldn’t you add AIPAC to your list?
Here’s John Dean, enjoy.
I guess Judy won’t be getting that editor’s job for “Haaretz” after all.
JML @ 158
john dean here. some more from mary and angie here.
Our media at work.
According to Yahoo, the Iranian election results are “embarrassing” Ahmadinejad.
Did Yahoo claim the November mid-terms an “embarrassement” for Bush?
Just asking.
-GSD
I would like to see Judy take Snow’s job…
soon, during the trials and investigations– we can watch her shimmy and tapdance her way down the yellowcake road.
OldCoastie @ 135
I think the motivation was to destabilize the region to upset plans by OPEC to switch from the dollar to the euro for valuation purposes. It is the only thing that makes any sense.
Not that I expect sense from George W. Bush. But I do expect some kind of logic from the Pentavirate.
Pach. I’ve said that from the beginning as well. I really don’t have any forum but online to express it. The admin is only showing itself more and more disconnected from reality and the will of the voters.
That’s scary on its own. But to find a way to remedy that? I’m not sure. I think the email the reps and senators is the best idea to start with, but we need more. Bring attention this outside the MSM and find a way to do so. That’s the real challenge.
lina @ 25
Remember the Turner Network made for TV movie CSA: What if the South won the Civil War. My response was, I thought they did.
Getty
Bob Barr plans to work for the Libertarian Party in the South.
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Bob Barr, who served eight years as a Republican congressman before losing his seat in 2002, announced Friday that he is now a “proud, card-carrying Libertarian.” And he encouraged others to join him.
“It’s something that’s been bothering me for quite some time, the direction in which the party has been going more and more toward big government and disregard toward privacy and civil liberties,” said Barr, 58, a lawyer and consultant living in Atlanta. “In terms of where the country needs to be going to get back to our constitutional roots … I’ve come to the conclusion that the only way to do that is to work with a party that practices what it preaches, and that is the Libertarian Party.”
Barr said he has no plans to run for office. In his new role as the Libertarian Party’s regional representative for the South, he will help promote the party’s message and recruit candidates, he said.
Barr helped manage the House Republicans’ impeachment case before the Senate in 1999.
I know of someone whose sibling gave up their American citizenship recently for an EU country. At first they couldn’t believe it, now they are envious.
What a strange turn of events.
It’s like the British General Cornwallis surrendering at Yorktown to the American General Washington.
The band played, “The World Turned Upside Down” at the request of Cornwallis.
Bushit the Criminal has inverted America and “Turned the World Turned Upside Down.”
I’m rooting for Bob Barr! Imagine a GOP split in the South, its stronghold, between Theocrats and EconLibertarians. Bestill my heart.
– Flynt Leverett on Condi Rice’s statement that the price we will pay to negotiate with Iran will be too high, because it will be Iran getting a nuclear weapon
“Some of my former colleagues at the CIA have proved spineless….”
Every once in a while american democracy just plain has a brain fart-
We’ve had at least two brainfart presidents in the last fifty years
Nixon in 68
Clusterfuck in 2000
It will happen again- it is a myth that the wise american electorate sees through the slime and guages the man within-
The american electorate is dumb as dirt.
Ronnie wasn’t the swiftest thing that american democracy ever did either.
Notions based on fact or not, die hard.
A salute to King George and his victorious Vision:
“If ponies rode men and grass ate cows,/ And cats should be chased to holes by the mouse,/ If the mamas sold their babies to the gypsies for half a crown;/ Summer were spring and the t’other way around,/ Then all the world would be upside down.”
October 19, 1781
He’s not my president! Never has been, never will be. He’s not my president!
Bob Barr is an asshole- and even he knows that Clusterfuck sucks the big one.
I beg to differ.
Impeachment requires a simple majority in the House, which shouldn’t be that difficult to obtain. Conviction, however, takes a 2/3 majority in the Senate, which will happen sometime after Satan takes up ice skating.
So, why impeach? Because the impeached can’t be pardoned, and Bush deserves to be prosecuted and convicted some day. But that day can wait, while the Democrats take care of the nation’s business and Bush finishes out his term.
RevDeb @ 11
West Wing always seemed like a science fiction show to me, because it bore no relation whatsoever to reality. The cognitive dissonance was beyond extreme.
It doesn’t really matter if yer fer impeachment or agin it- it ain’t a gunna happen- (unless clusterfuck screws up a lot more- which is quite possible).
THEY DON’T HAVE THE VOTES!
Maybe he will take a mountain biking trip to Mount Hood.
I never considered him the president, and I never understood why anyone but the most rabid Republican wacko ever did.
TRex is upstairs
Sparkles the Iguana @ 186
He he. Imagining a tiny bicycle running around the top of Cheneys head.
I want the Democrats during these next two years to begin to change things, pass some good legislation. They can’t pursue impeachment and do all that stuff at once.
The Dems aren’t going to do shit. Harry Reid is fully on board with this administration and supports Bush’s “flight forward” sending more young men to die for big oil. And Reid is only one, there are so many others, Lieberman being just another corporate politician (neither right nor left but corporate) bought, paid for, and fully in agreement with our agenda in Iraq. Namely, to deliver Iraqi oil, establish a client state with all the trappings of democracy but not a threat and to build a permanent military presence in the middle east.
While we concentrated on Bush, every Democrat legislator and senator was fully aware of what has been going on in Iraq. You didn’t hear a peep out of them did you? Nope, not a sound. Not when they took away habeas corpus, or nominated Roberts, or signed off on permanent bases in Iraq or any of the many crimes of this administration. They have had full knowledge of what was going on as to our goals in Iraq (and domestically too) and they never seriously fought back, not once.
But we have new blood right? Sure, a few, but the rest of them, Reid, Boxer, Lieberman, and the others, even Pelosi. They will make sure that the freshman class is properly contained. Nothing seriously threatening to our corporate elites will be permitted. You can bank on it.
….and besides….he has given “My Pet Goat” a bad name.
I actually think (and have thought for a while) that B43 should be impeached.. It’s not a question of politics, morality, justice, or even prevention (of more damage). What he stands for and what he’s done needs to be totally repudiated in a such a way that there can be left no question of the utter illegitimacy of those actions.
No future president, whether Democratic, Republican or No Nothing, can be allowed to fall back on the precedents for co-option of power that B43 has set, and the only way to prevent them from doing so once and for all, is to ensure that this man pays the ultimate price within the system…. and that’s through his impeachment and removal from office (or I’ll be satisified with resignation in the face of immiment impeachment). A president has subverted the constitution by killing, torturing and stealing under cover of authority. He needs to go.
I’ve never called for impeachment and I’m still not.
I’m not so shy!
Fine post, pach.
OldCoastie @ 115
Maybe that’s why Poppa Bush was sobbing so hard the other night.
SusanD @ 155
And every time he says or hears the words “Commander-in-Chief,” he has an orgasm.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 80
Stephen –
So sorry I had to be away from the computer for a good while.
I’m not using 2.0, and most definitely do NOT want to use 2.0 for a number of reasons having to do with new features I don’t want at all.
Now, normally I’d be happy to try it — with the understanding I would then uninstall it, and re-install ver. 1.5.0.8 right away.
Unfortunately, I don’t have time to do that — have to get a lot of medical info together tonight for a visit with a new specialist tomorrow. And I’m not the least bit “ready” for Christmas, just swamped.
I guess for now I’ll just have to be super, super careful about the additional tags being stuffed in the text willy-nilly — with the understanding that at some future date (after Christmas?) I’ll keep my eyes peeled for you to try further experiments.
Thanks for offering to help with this — it’s thoughtful of you!!!
(And in case we don’t bump into each other here before the holiday — who knows what the next few days bring? — I wish you a very wonderful and special holiday time!)
Selise @40- excellent point and agree completely with ES @104.
Stephen –
I just wrote you a msg responding to your last question to me — and for some inexplicable reason, it’s in moderation! It was just computer stuff, so beats me what was snagged.
If you see this now, please stop back to check it later — whenever it gets sprung.
Thanks!
angie @ 163
Thanks, Angie!
Mrs. K8 says
December 18th, 2006 at 8:22 pm
Legacy versions of Firefox are not secure, they are vulnerable to many well known exploits. But there is always Opera. It’s very fast.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 195
Poopy is coming to the realization that his “smart” son will probably never see the inside of the White House after his brother leaves it (one fuckin’ way or another), and that means that the dynasty Poopy imagined for the family, based on corruption, greed, cronyism and orchestrated violence comes to an end.
These people make their money off of government and the favors they do when in government. If they can’t get into government, one way or another, they’re left with working for a living. That’s why the evil sonofabitch was crying those crocodile tears.
Depraved indifference?
Part of the problem
If even flaming liberals have so far internalized the Fuehrerprinzip that they consider it at all important, one way or the other, whether or not they can accept the person who is only supposed to be the chief magistrate of our republic, fer Chrissake, as their personal President, then we are indeed in deep shit.
gee, late to the game, as usual. Impeach Bush, Cheney and McConnell. Not my president. Heck, his Daddy wasn’t my president, either.
Excellent post, Pachacutec. I’m with ya. This man is not my President.
He launched an illegal war which killed hundreds of thousands of people, yet still even most liberals won’t call for him to be brought to justice.
Fail to punish people for mass murder and gross illegalities; for trashing the constitution and you’ll just get more.
It’s beyond me why most Americans don’t see this. Since I can’t explain it I’ll just call it the “American no-responsibility syndrome”.
Poor people go to jail for taking harmless substances. Important people have lengthy and wealthy retirements for killing hundreds of thousands of people.
It’s the American way and as long as it’s the American way I GUARANTEE you will have a repeat of this episode, in one form or another, every decade or so.
Thanks Pachacutec for your inspired, thoughtful and compelling post. I hope and trust it spreads like wildfire and read carefully on and off-line. I agree completely with your analysis of GWB.
As a veteran of the Impeach Nixon movement I am equally sympatico and inspired by former Attorney General Ramsey Clark’s early call for the impeachment of Bush way back before our troops were even deployed.
Unlike Difi and Babs Boxer our new Speaker of the House has steadfastly opposed the Bush-Cheney cabal from the get-go. With the Libby trial on track next month Fitz may or may not successfuly expose ole Dead-Eye Dick as the sociopathic traitor his behavior suggests.
We took back the House and the Senate (barely) and can ill afford to find our party (and our nation) without political bases covered and fully loaded in these most perilous times in our once proud republic. President Pelosi 2007.
Exile on Ericsson St. @
41
I’m not.
…And how can one empower a group that stands on nothing, for nothing, and with nothing?
GSD @
113
Or as Tanya Tucker would sing “It’s a little too late to do the right thing now…”
He may not be your president, but he is “the” president. So what’s your point? You calling for a revolution? Or just more word games?
RevDeb @ 11
OMG, me too!
I first thought this was silly — fantasizing that the “West Wing” was real & Bush was fiction. Then reality stepped in & I realized WW was my blankie, a way to stop the pain of seeing Bush&Co. destroy so much.
Now, the 2007 Dem Congress is my new & improved blankie. But this time it’s a welcome reality, nicely freshened with “Febreeze” oversight & subpoena powers.
W has never been my president.
How could he be when the 2000 election was a sham? How could he be when everything he campaigned for was a lie? How could he take such advantage of our national tragedy to support policies built on more lies?
How could such a person ever earn the right to be called President of the United States?
so, um… what does that mean, exactly? “Not My President”? i don’t understand what that corresponds to in the world. are you a citizen of the USA? because if you are, well, Bush is the guy who has that job right now. he’s a war criminal and an extremely dangerous lunatic, but that doesn’t mean that he’s not the President. aren’t we the reality-based community?
is this about avoiding blame for his actions? because we don’t get to do that. sorry. the entire world is being hurt by Bush’s actions and inactions, but there’s only one country that can do anything about that. us.
when the Republigoons said about Clinton, “he’s not my president,” they were wrong. they spent all eight years of his term trying to overturn the outcome of valid, legal elections because, to them, the wrong candidate won. this is the same kind of “democracy” that they want to allow for the Palestinians, for example: vote for anyone you want, as long as the guy we like wins.
so are we in that business now too?
2000, yes, it’s arguable. but in 2004, Bush won. he really did. awful, but true.
nobody gets to opt out. Bush Is Our President Until We Remove Him.
I’m using my platform to propel a meme that he is illegitimate, dangerously contrary to not only American life and interests, but all human interests. That’s not a popular point of view outside of our own world, but I’m making the case for it’s wider adoption.
That’s what this is about.
pach, you are way, way, way too nice.
I think the word you are looking for is “psychotic.” Nothing more or less harsh explains the man’s detachment from reality, and the devastation he’s gleefully inflicted upon Iraq, this so-called democratic republic we live in, and the world political order.
Even if he were duly “elected” in 2004 (assuming the diebold machines were not rigged), he has never been the president of the vast majority of people of good will in this country . . .
Parachutec,
We don’t have time to Impeach?
I know you understand the death, destruction, theft, and torture that the Bush cabal perpetrates on a daily basis.
You know the size of their army of minions in Congress, and how razor thin our majority is in the Senate.
Do you -really- think Bush will let us pass any legislation that is good? Or meaningful? Or just? Or absolutely critical to the preservation of American lives? That he won’t Veto any bill, or twist any arm, to have his way?
No, I say Impeach as quickly as the investigative evidence demands it, so we can put an END to the senseless killing.
We have to take America’s steering wheel out of the hands of this dangerously corrupt, ignorant and incompetent leadership.
If we truly care about American lives and American justice, and if the U.S. Constitution is to mean anything in the future, there -must- be accountability now.
pach,
i was against him before i was against him. i called him frat boy bush in 1999, before he was exposed before the entire nation as fuckwad.
i have one small quibble: the republican party is not simply the party of the South. there are republicans in a lot of different parts of the country and these places are just as responsible as the South is. Ohio gave us Jean Schmidt and Boehner. Kansas and Colorado and Utah and Illinois and Minnesota and Pennsylvania are all Republican enablers. And let’s not forget where the Bush family really comes from, and it ain’t Texas.
I have no respect for George W Bush just as he has no respect for the rule of law. I agree the man is dangerous and unfit to serve. About impeachment, if he is allowed to break law after law, why can’t I?
Bush inspires anarachy.
I said this way back in 2000! He’s hollow and stupid. He’s wrought chaos globally. Impeachment needs to become part of our daily language. Put impeachment back on the table, Nancy Pelosi.
I keep seeing comments like your “And after 9/11, the whole country rallied to Bush’s side.”. I wish to disagree. For me 9/11 consisted of trying to get to my daughter’s school to get her out. For her and her schoolmates it involved such odd experiences as simultaneously watching the South Tower fall on the TV and out their window. She got sick when Bush appeared on the TV and she thought “HE is the one who will lead us through this? God help us”
Excellent post.
This administration, particularly Cheney, makes it much easier to understand why there were revolutions in Russia and France. If we had to put up with governance like that provided by GWB for a hundred years or so, the American public revolt too.
The disdain for the average American is astounding. For the Bush administration there is no common good, only the good that advances their own interests.
Therefore, he couldn’t possibly be my president.
.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @
165
yes and AEI, too.
The day that the Supreme Court anointed Bush president, I told the people in the office I worked at then that he was not and never would be my president. There’s no enjoyment in having been right but it taught me to trust my instincts.
If I steal your car? Is it mine?
He never was your (P)resident.
It is not nesessary to impeach a criminal.
Impeachment is not even on the table. Shouldn’t be.
Bush is such an A-hole; just watch his attitude during any number of his appearances. I’ve been inconspicuously lurking in a very embarrassed corner for the past 6 years, wincing every time I hear him speak like I did for the character through the entire “Something about Mary” movie. I can’t stand those kinds of “comedies” where the main character is set out to embarrass his or herself by stumbling into one bad situation after another. The problem with Bush is that the world has become his situation comedy and it’s not funny at all. How did this dumbass become leader of what used to be the most powerful and prosperous nation on Earth? There should have been a ouster before we ever set foot in Iraq but rich white people are stupid, especially conservative evangelicals. Not my President either, not my country!
He wasn’t elected in 2004, either. It’s just that Blackwell was cleverer than Harris.
Even though this is the EPU Dead Zone, I will say it once more, ‘not my President’. I have said this since December, 2000 and will say it for as long as I live, when he isn’t anybody’s president anymore.
Not my President.
GordonM @ 226
Agreed! Where were all these people when 2004 was stolen?!
Sorry gang, but -from Ohio- the message is still loud & clear: 2004 was STOLEN! PERIOD!
Good stuff, Pachu!
I’m sorry I haven’t (yet) had time to go through all the comments. Most likely these points were made above. If so, take this as just reinforcing them.
To leave Bush in office and to let the Democrats “pass some good legislation” is to allow him to veto anything they bring up. The man needs to be neutralized, and IMO the fastest (not to mention most just)way is to remove him and Cheney from office.
At best he’s an impediment to a return to true democracy in this country. At worst… well, he’s pushing a constitutional crisis.
I say, “bring it on”.
Not My President!
Never was. Never will be.
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This is a good thing you’ve done, Pach.
It’s a generous gift, really.
Thank you!
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He’s not MY president. Never has been. I swear allegiance to the United States of America and to the Office of the President, not to this man. Impeach. Now.
NOT my president – Never WAS my president!
But thanks for making this public and saying what needs to be done, and stressing that investigations and correcting matters are more important than impeachment. As sweet as that would be – it would be a temporary pleasure in exchange for long-term mending & rebuilding.
…but who will be able to stop this man? The only way it can happen is for the Congress to cut off funds to the war. Even after the election, cutting off funding would have been political suicide, but I think we’re now to the point that anyone w/ a brain can determine we’re now past the point of “winning” in Iraq, no matter how “winning” was defined. While the Radical Right flamed Cindy Sheehan as a nut (and her visits to Chavez didn’t help her publicity) the question she asked in Aug 2004 is even more relevant today, ie “What noble cause did my son die for?” How can anyone of us ask another parent to give their child in a war we all know is lost? Asking more of our troops is immoral; we must stop this war now.
Congress, cut off funding for this war.
I want the Dems to pass good legislation as well, but the President will veto each and every one and not one bill will be able to overcome the veto. The need to impeach is right now a moral imperative.
Pach, I have a tendency to stereotype myself. I’m a southerner but got out. I knew a lot of wonderful liberals while there. I do not believe Bush would have taken a lot of southern states without the cooked up electronic voting machines. If we are to win a progressive country…we gotta’ open our eyes wide. After Carter disenfranchised the family farm. The mid west and the south went red. There was a reason. His buddies were big ag. Kinda’ like Bush and big oil. You might have seen some of the great “I’m losing my farm and land after generations of farmers” movies. Very hurtful. And it was done on purpose. Just like the Iraq war was supposed to help big oil but didn’t work out as well.
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O.K.
So my reality is a day late and on the last check of my wallet, a dollar short too, but geish, …
WELCOME TO REALITY.
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WHAT???
The Democrats can’t walk and chew gum at the same time?
Pa-LEASE!!!
What good is putting out these fires when the fire starter is allowed to remain on the loose. A proper DA operates in conjunction with the fire marshal, NO?
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The Dems are not going to be able to do anything good for this country so long as Bush/Cheney hold the veto/signing statement pen.
The Ruling Elite need to follow the Nixon/Agnew model: first, get Cheney to resign (heart problems or whatever), appoint someone to replace him as VEEP (hopefully not another neocon or the exercise will be futile), and then force Bush to step down.
If they are not willing to do that, then the Dems need to proceed with impeaching both Bush and Cheney, and let President Pelosi take charge. (I actually prefer that scenario.)
Agreed! Since 2000 I have felt that there is virtually nothing respectable about this man. Stomachs must roll when elder statesmen have to address this little man as Mr President. Yeh, yeh respecting the office and all, but nevertheless …..
I’m surprise you hung on so long. He ceased to be my president the day HE said he wasn’t. During one of those post-election town hall meetings when he kicked out people just like me, he made it very clear that he didn’t consider himself my president. It’s been a relief, really. He can eff up all he wants and it is only the responsibility of the 30% of stupid people who support him.
Adie @
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Right on – and as were all sane Texans screaming – more than once I’ve wondered what collective and humongous offense we put on God that required that the foul Bush family of Connecticut come to Texas, wreck it and then move on to wreck the country?
He’s not my President either, he is a criminal who needs to be indicted as the banner on my humble page has been yelling for almost a year.
Mrs. K8 @
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Um, you don’t have to un-install and re-install at all. This isn’t Microshaft IE. You can keep both 2.0 and 1.5 on the machine at the same time. If you download and try out 2.0 and don’t like it, just ignore it after that. Easy stuff.
felagund @
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He ceased to be my president when he decided that my rights were expendable simply because I’m gay. I gave him another chance after 9/11 like most of us did, but he blew it again. I’ve said loudly and repeatedly that he’s not my president ever since.
Yes he is. God help me, but he’s mine too. He is all of our (Americans’) president. And he will continue to be our president until and unless he is impeached.
To deny Bush while denying impeachment is pure denial. We will neither fix nor even begin to address our problems while Bush is president, precisely because Bush IS the problem.
Bolivar said (paraphrased from memory) “After me will come dictators.” If we do not deal with Bush, and by dealing with him I mean impeachment and trial, then worse will follow. Bush exists because Nixon walked. If Bush walks, you can kiss the republic goodbye, if we have not already waited to long to deal with him.
There is simply nothing more important now than to re-establish the rule of law. The rule of law includes finding and punishing the guilty. Punishing the guilty is vital when the guilty are the very keepers of the law.
This is what informs the Nuremberg principles. When heads of state violate the norms of acceptable behavior, who is to hold them to account? The reason to hold them to account is not to stir up old wounds, but to act as a deterrent against it happening again.
We had Nixon as a warning, and we let him off with a resignation. We had Reagan doing much of the same thing, and we let him skate away scott free.
Now we have Bush. We cannot let him walk.
DAYUM, shargash, you articulated it perfectly.
Impeachment has GOT to be the #1 priority in the new House. We don’t need a 2/3 majority in the Senate; the investigations alone will force Chimpy and Darth Cheney to resign.
It’s up to the House, now, to decide: are you with the country or are you with your own position of power?
I never rallied to Bush’s side after 9/11. I knew that most people would, and as the news told stories of “all Americans supporting the President,” I announced to my family and friends that regardless of how many terrorists flew airplanes into skyscrapers, and regardless of the news stories fawning over Bush’s “leadership,” I would NEVER, EVER support this fraud of a president. Never have. Never will.
He reminds me that in some circles, mother is half a word.