
Let me say this slowly. It's something I've never said before.
Bush is unfit for office. He's not my president.
Now, I've called him nuts, crazy, dangerous, said he should be censured over warrantless wiretapping, and so on. I've said he's paranoid and craven and callow and cowardly. I've said his 2000 election was undemocratic and probably illegitimate, in some fashion. Selected, then elected. And even with all that, I still mentally sustained a degree of deference to him, in some corner of my mind, as President of the United States.
I've never called for impeachment and I'm still not. I'm not raving or slamming my fingers down on my keyboard. I'm feeling very calm. I'm not trying to be funny, snarky, witty or anything else. I'm just grappling with the incredible hubris. . . words fail. "Irresponsibility" is too thin. What's the word? How does one characterize the absolute contempt this man has for human life, for the expressed will of the American people, who have completely repudiated his failed occupation of Iraq, now that he's indulging his fantasies of an escalation?
I think a lot of people in the mythical middle who thought he was basically a good guy who's been stubborn and wrong are coming to the realization that he's dangerous, almost to an inhuman degree. He's pissed all over the Baker-Hamilton charade which, for all its flaws, still helped cement the notion in the popular mind that to continue is to fail. And his response is to go in exactly the opposite direction all the world, including the American public, wants him to go? I knew he would do it; I'm not saying I was surprised. But the blunt reality of it staggers.
I know we all know this stuff, and I can't account for why this is hitting me the way it's hitting me now, for as long as I've been hammering at this worst president ever. But it is.
When Bill Clinton took office, there were right wingers who, from day one, never conferred to him in their minds any shred of legitimacy, and they set about trying to take him down. They almost succeeded. They said, right after his election, "He's not my president," words we really hadn't heard said with such conviction among wide portions of the population since Lincoln was elected in 1860. But even after Bush was installed by the Supreme Court, Democrats mostly put it behind them. And after 9/11, the whole country rallied to Bush's side.
Now I'm making that statement: Bush is not my president. I'm done. Enough. Call it Bush derangement syndrome all you want, wingnuts, your guy is a criminal failure whose intransigent unwillingness to admit he's been wrong has killed thousands of people, and now he wants to kill thousands more.
I'm not arguing for impeachment, not because I don't think he's been criminal, or even because he doesn't deserve it. I believe he does. But I want the Democrats during these next two years to begin to change things, pass some good legislation. They can't pursue impeachment and do all that stuff at once. Our home, our world, is on fire. Put out the fire first. We don't have time to impeach this horrible man.
I do want vigorous investigations, and I'm a real Waxman kind of guy. Leahy, Dorgan, Conyers, the whole gang. More, more, more. Why? Because we need to educate the public and find out just how much damage has been done to the Constitution so we can set about putting things right again. Here's a test for you history buffs: of all the grievances in the Declaration of Independence, how many has Bush basically perpetrated through his administration? I don't have an answer, but if anyone wants to send me a study of some kind, a real one, just email me. I'll make it public and give you credit.
I'm not happy saying that the president of the United States is illegitimate, based on his performance and contempt for the will of the governed and the Constitution he swore to uphold. It gives me no pleasure. But I think this is a notion we all need to comprehend: he's unfit to be president. If you agree with me, say it out loud: he's not my president.
Everything he stands for is unAmerican. It just so happens that the modern Republican Party stands right with him. He's their product. The party of the South has done it again: it's tried to destroy America.
Americans can't let that happen. Preventing that from happening, and turning it all around, begins by coming to grips with some basic, unwelcome, disturbing facts. This is not a liberal conclusion, or a partisan one. It's an American one.
Not My President.
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I am seriously wondering if this president is “balanced”.
Hell Yeah!
NOT MY PRESIDENT!!!
mine either.
Criminal investigations are a good option. Can additional “special” federal prosecutors be appointed?
except for a brief moment after 9/11:
never. was. my. president.
Is it ethical for the American people to have views and rights when the president is supposedly fighting the evil he has created?
This whole administraiton has become a creepy clown show…just when you think it can’t get any more vulgar and profane Georgie boy gives one of his swaggering photo ops and you wonder if America can ever recover her soul…
From Day 1 I designed a logo and ironed it onto sweat shirts and t-shirts. I also made my own bumper sticker:
Josiah Bartlet is MY President.
Without the West Wing, I would not have been able to deal with the past 6 years. Anyone wants to do the same, the iron-on design is in the fun files on my site.
I’ve pretty much worn out the sweat shirt and need to make a fresh one to get through the rest of this hell.
Two more years. Oh my dear God.
egregious @ 12
I don’t think he’ll make it through 2 more years. I think he will have a breakdown first. Gilliard mentions this often too.
We gotta start chipping away at the foundation. Eventually, Bush’s house will tumble down. We have a majority in the House; let’s start issuing subpoenas for the lesser criminals, and deal.
There’s not time for impeachment. America needs Amendment XXV Section 4.
We must Section 4 him. He’s unfit. (Cheney, too.)
I don’t know why but I was dealing with the same thoughts. George W. Bush is placing a pillow over the entire nation and slowly suffocating it all while telling us that he is making us better.
It may be the wierd weather or the lack of Christmas spirit but I am profoundly sad tonight.
-GSD
RevDeb @ 13
He’s having the breakdown now.
TeddySanFran @ 15
The problem is the latter. Cheney has to go first because if he’s veep and XXV is followed, we’d never be able to get rid of Darth.
That’s what I cannot tolerate. EVERYTHING is unAmerican….EVERYTHING. There is nothing he does that is done for the benefit of this country or her people.
“If you agree with me, say it out loud: he’s not my president.”
Consider it said.
What has been clear from the very start has been his oddly inappropriate sense of decorum. The finger at the camera. The bizarre chuckle while he talked about deathly serious issues. His cruel jokes and his contempt for those who disagreed with him. His odd habit of talking to intelligent adults as though they were doltish children. His false swagger and bravado. His inexplicable reaction to the news from the WTC. It has always seemed, at least to those beyond your borders, that there was something distinctly empty and pathological about your President.
The question remains: How will the county mitigate his pernicious influence?
punaise @
8
Here, here.
I gave him a shot and he called me a traitor.
-GSD
Teddy,
He may be having the breakdown now, but until the media reports it, it ain’t happenin’.
Thank you, Pach, for this expression of my will and wish. You are a great writer and thinker. FDL is better with you here. Much.
“The party of the South has done it again: it’s tried to destroy America.”
If they secede again, let’s let them.
I was thinking today, as scary as Bush is, Cheney is civilization’s nightmare. I have the self-preserving illusion that there exists a possibility, that on any given day, Bush might listen to someone who is in touch with reality. Not so with Dr. Death. If he ever fully takes the wheel, we are gonners.
so if he’s not your president are you not American?
This is wishful thinking that we can cherry-pick what it is to be American by disassociating yourself from the horror of bush. As much as that would be terrific, it can’t happen and we have no chance of starting redemption unless bush is impeached and convicted - that is the way home.
Hopefully, it is quickly becoming clear to everyone that just because bush suffered a resounding rebuke in the midterms NOTHING CHANGED IN BUSH’S MIND. bush does not believe in America, he believes only in satisfying himself. The only chance to stop the physical and metaphorical bleeding is for bush to be behind bars as quickly as possible.
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That’s not my monkey
Do you have to be so shrill? What would David Broder say about all of this?
egregious @ 12
Iraq, Gaza, and the whole Middle East is perched to explode. “Two more years”. I don’t think I’ll sleep too tight tonight. (; Happy holidays ;)
RevDeb @
13
Agreed.
I also think he has a physical ailment of some sort, a serious one, perhaps neurological, something affecting the brain. JMO, as I’m not Bill Frist — this is just my own speculation based on how he looks and his speech and movements.
But that’s not snark. I’m serious about that. His having to step down because of it would not surprise me in the least. (Although it will probably require an “intervention” of some sort, since I’m sure he doesn’t think there’s anything wrong.
I should add, I’ll never forgive the Republican Party for foisting him on us. Their contempt for goverance, for people, led them to pick a dolt who shares their world view and they sold him through the darkest of public relations arts to get him into office.
I’ll never forgive them for that.
“reckless disregard for reality”
Pach, your post is a far better statement of my EPUed comments downstairs.
Never was my President.
As stated below, the man is a sociopath.
But he could not inflict the damage without full complicity of a fearful American public and the Worst…Congress…Ever
And the road back to sanity is in the hands of those two groups.
Pach –
I’m with you on your comment #31.
But then again there were many people who never forgave the South for making the Civil War inevitable, too.
AMEN!
Investigate
Imprison
Impeach
And let the Democratic Congress turn this country back into something we can be proud of.
Look at the balls on Matt Damon, says they should get Cheney under oath.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._1218.html
And for anybody who says he should just shut up and act, he’s as qualified to address the topic at hand as any of those fucking idiots who pass for opinion makers.
I think the only way the Dem’s can “begin to change things and pass some good legislation” is to impeach both Bush and Cheney.
All the while these two are in charge, they will simply disregard anything and everything the Dem’s do or try to do.
Oh, and he has NEVER been an elected president as far as I’m concerned.
Exile on Ericsson St. @ 28
No f-bombs. Not a word of this would choke an editor at WaPo. Just the words in the order they’re in would never make it.
Pachacutec @ 31
Agreed. I don’t know if they were so pathologically cynical before the days of Newt, but at least since then there has been NOTHING redeeming about that party.
By this time next year, some reassuring Republican Senator will be President. Chuck Hagel, maybe. The Money Party just stopped betting on the Republicans, so those in the party with a sense of self-preservation will drive Bush and Cheney from office and replace them with Hagel, or Olympia Snowe or someone.
The investigations over the next six months are going to make Ken Starr look like the joke he really was. The embarrasment will be so great that they’ll retire Cheney for health reasons, and then push Bush out for “treatment”. The system’s already had enough. This “surge” is Bush’s death throe, if one can have a “throe”, and not just “throes”.
I’m just concerned that this kind of rhetoric will alienate centrist voters and empower the Unity ‘08 ticket, that’s all.
What I have never been able to comprehend is this: Why are all the other officials and politicians in government, all the military brass and all the courts standing by going, “Oh dear, oh dear” while this FREAK destroys our country? Why isn’t somebody in authority STOPPING him?
I had a homemade “He’s Not My President” bumpersticker on my car for several years. A year ago, somebody scratched it up pretty good, and soaped the back window of my car “Move to Iraq.”
Huh? Can anyone see the logic behind that? I can’t, other than some kneejerk parroting of “If you don’t like it (insert hot-button issue), why don’t you move to Russia!”
RevDeb @ 23
I think Olbermann helped me a lot tonight, four Special Comments one after another. My favorite: “unchecked and unbalanced.”
It’s starting. Milbank tried, as well, to get the word out, I think, in his analysis of Eagleburger’s characterization of W:
TradMed is experimenting with telling us the truth about him, around the edges, to see how we will react. And preparing the ground, tilling the popular soil, to see if the idea will sprout and what odd fruits it might bear.
OT –
Question — Hope someone knows the answer.
Downstream someone posted that Keith will be having more of this “The Year of Comments” throughout the week, saying that he made 12 comments and only showed 4 today.
Is this true? I just checked out Keith’s page at MSNBC and there’s no comment about what’s upcoming in the next few days.
I ask because Mr. K8 and I want to record to DVD all of Keith’s comments to give to Mr. K8’s brother as an extra Christmas present.
pach - you can say he’s not your president, but there’s a lot of people who don’t have that priviledge.
some of them are wearing an american uniform in iraq right now. some of them are in our gulags.
it is our duty to allow them to say “not my president” too. and imo, impeachment is our tool.
we can’t abandon them.
This dude, Drago Tesanovich, has been carrying signs and handing out “He’s Not My President” buttons and signs here in Athens, GA ever since Bush was elected. Check him out
Not Mine!
oregondave @ 43
Nope.
My President would be NORML: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._1218.html
Somebody needs to take a picture of the Jack Daniels truck pulling away from the White House
Pachacutec @ 31
Nothing could please me more than to see the GOP cast into the wilderness for this error, splintered into Theocrats, Libertarians, Buchananites, Tancredists and Newtons. Here’s hoping the eternal shame of 2000 will live in infamy, forever contaminating their brand.
The coding buttons on this comment form are hay-wire. They stick extra tags in.
Which is to say, if you see a bold tag gone hay-wire from my last comment, just refresh. I went back in and fixed it.
The Bush potential for being dangerous is exceedingly high. I don’t think this man is all that rational. Seriously.
Mrs. K8 @ 45
That was me. It seemed implied until the very end of tonight’s episode where he said that all 12 are available on the web site.
You can certainly tape tonight’s when it re-airs at midnight EST. As for the rest, we’ll have to see.
RevDeb @
18
RevDeb and Teddy -
As you read all the clauses of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment, how well do you think that its provisions deal with simultaneous incapacitation of the President and Vice President?
RevDeb –
Thanks for clarifying! I thought maybe someone was getting an email newsletter or some such with the inside scoop.
Yes, it’s a very handy thing, isn’t it, that Keith’s show repeats? We’ll definitely snag tonight’s show, but won’t bother setting the record function for tomorrow and Wednesday yet.
Goddamn, Pach, where you been???
From the beginning (or was it the end?)… I have said that Bush is not my president.
As for impeachment, I agree that the Democrats need to concentrate on both hearings/investigations and on passing legislation. Impeachment would be a distraction for them.
However, my hunch is that the findings from said hearings/investigations will be compelling enough and provide enough cover to Republicans to either impeach Bush (and Cheney?!) or at least to threaten to… as they realize that there is nothing else that will stop this man from dragging us all over the cliff by the last shreds of his pathological pride.
Mrs. K8 @ 52
What browser are you using?
SP, CPA, ianal, but:
tsf bold ital: in case of incapacitation of both, a body (that Congress would by law provide) would transmit to its President such a declaration.
I think he missed quartering troops, beyond that I think pretty much got them all
RevDeb @
13
I’ve been saying that, RevDeb (check back awhile on FDL; it’s there). I still believe it. Any decent student of behavior can see it.
besides…. he never has been mine…. just played the part, badly, courtesy misguided efforts of a bunch of enablers who should have known better….. should have cared more…..
some day, maybe one of those who promised him, “Don’t worry. You’ll do fine. We’ll do all the work. You don’t have to do a thing.”
…will have the courage to admit they never believed the puppet would break his strings…
he couldn’t do that…. after all…. he really didn’t know how to do anything on his own….
Thanks Pach for a wonderful, albeit gut-wrenching post…
I know Barbara Bush wouldn’t approve of this but her son is supposed to be our servant.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 53
fwiw, I agree…
We have to “disempower” Darth first or we are in trouble:
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 59
Firefox. Does that mean something?
(Duh, I guess so, since you asked….sheesh…red face.)
And even with all that, I still mentally sustained a degree of deference to him, in some corner of my mind, as President of the United States.
out of respect for The Presidency, I usually temper my criticisms (and always reign in any thoughts that could be remotely construed as threatening* to the office-holder; hi, NSA!). but for cryin’ out loud, Bush has brought nothing but dishonor to the position and dragged our nation into the gutter.
*(OK, so “remember polonium” was a moment of weakness)
I’ve distrusted Rudy Giuiliani since he said to his PoCommish on 9/11, “Thank God George Bush is President.” That was decidedly not my reaction.
Time’s shown me to be the better judge of the President’s character.
John H. Farr @ 57
I’ve felt it, and I’ve risen to fight him and all he stands for. I’ve just never used my public platform to call him illegitimate in such a sober fashion. It’s all hitting me on a deeper level, and I think the sentiment I express tonight will be heard a lot more once the investigations bring more to light that we knew about.
Some people really don’t know about all that stuff, or they don’t believe it. They think it’s just partisan cant. But witnesses under oath will detail a lot of things throoughly, making it all undeniable. Some things we hear will shock and stagger even us, who have been watching closely.
Sometimes I try to sniff the coming winds and put things into words. When I wrote on Memorial Day that there is not “war on terror,” I never thought the New York Times editorial page would echo my message a couple of months later, and the an outgoing Don Rumsfeld would walk back from the term before the end of the year.
I actually think this is a weak post in many respects. No links, no research. I don’t like that, actually. But I just found myself. . . speaking my mind.
A friend of mine just got it - FINALLY - these past ten days or so. He’s a Baptist minister, teaches at the local branch of Weyland Baptist College, was a Green Beret in Vietnam and Laos, and is a helluva euphonium player.
Just seven weeks ago, we had a violent disagreement. He still believed Bush was doing the nods here and there to the fundies out of genuine belief rather than cynical manipulation. Since our argument, he’s watched Bush’s public appearances more critically. Last week, he said “I can’t believe I swallowed his line hook, line and sinker!” Another conservative friend, who was standing next to us both told him “I bought it for three years. I can’t wait until this is over.”
Neither of my friends are rooting for the Dems, though, but it must be harder to admit how idiotic Bush is the longer one has believed in him.
Here’s another example of ‘California values’ for Newt Fucking Gingrich to choke on.
California sees 300th death in Iraq.
-GSD
Exile on Ericsson St. @ 28
pardon… what remote isle have you been inhabiting the last 6 yrs?
That motherfucking son of a bitch isn’t MY President, and never has been.
I need an ativan.
Pach, your dispassion and clarity will win and influence others to the cause. There is great disquiet about our President, and we must treat it soberly — he’s not.
In my view, B/H went seriously awry. They were supposed to get Junja back from the brink. But Cheney keeps whispering in W’s demented ear. Were I he, I would be in physical fear of the two cabals at war for my soul — and my office.
I thought the “shrill” comment was irony, as in, joking. Sounds like Exile really thought this was shrill.
All I can say is, if you think this is shrill, you haven’t heard me take out the flamethrower.
When Adams and Franklin wanted someone to write a declaration of independence, they wanted someone who could put into words the grievances of the colonies for a listening, eager world, in a palatable fashion. I felt my tone here tonight was rather intentionally, and genuinely, restrained.
The defining moment for me was when I read the Supreme Court decision on Dec. 12, 2000.
From that moment on, I felt, and still do, that it was coup, and that Bush never had any legitimacy in that office.
That relieved me of any guilt in thinking him a usurping, ignorant prick.
He has never been anything close to what I would or could claim to be my preznit; not his father or Ronnie, either.
I just used to bide my time and have faith in my fellow Americans.
Then came 2000 and worse, yet 2004.
I don’t think Broderella can be referenced at FDL in anything but an ironic comment, but I could be wrong….
Pach, thanks for articulating it. Now let me try:
Bush. Is. Not. My. President.
That was really hard to say, but unfortunately it’s true. I just hope we and the rest of the world can survive the rest of his “reign.” Monomania ain’t pretty, is it?
Mrs. K8 @
66
Next question: which version of Firefox are you using? If you don’t already have Firefox 2.0, please download it and see whether using it eliminates the extra tags you mentioned.
TeddySanFran @
68
if you lived thru the ghouliani years in the New York area you know that he is a freak and a megalomaniac goon. his claim to fame was going after the weakest and most disenfranchised among us and was proud of it. Other than beating up on squeegee guys, he pretty much did nothing except posture. he is pure scum and republican cultist of the first order.
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Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 55
I remember reading a few (like five years?) years back that during the last 15 MONTHS of the Nixon administration, Kissinger and some NSA people would go around handing orders to the military and NSA types with the nuclear buttons and “football” thingy, telling them not to do anything wierd requested of them by Nixon. I can’t remember where, when, but when Kissinger denied the veracity of the claim, some retired military and NSA people corroborated the story.
ISG report coulda given junya some cover, but he rejected that completely.
Daddy threw him a lifeline and he flipped him the bird.
yes, I am really super worried now myself. very, very sick…
sorry, pluege, you are absolutely right, i did not mean that was when I started distrusting Rudy.
neurophius @
20
Same song, third verse.
also:
– he’s the Ted Bundy of politicians.
Teddy, I’ve stopped blaming it all on Cheney. Shrubya is as big a neocon as they come (and probably smarter than he looks, just highly disturbed)… he’s a grown up, it’s his responsibility.
Flynt Leverett’s talk is still the only C-SPAN download not working right. The error window claims the link is “outdated.”
OldCoastie @ 83
Gilliard expressed it well here last week.
Ed*ard Teller @ 87
makes sense; wait, let me go get my tinfoil hat that I never really need anymore…
I saw a t-shirt once…
“Dear God… Frank Burns is our President”!!!
Pachacutec @ 69
no weakness in this post, Pach. Someone with your background…speaking his mind…from deep within…and labelling it thus…
nitpickers dismiss it at their peril…
at least you tried…
Ed*ard Teller @ 87
from previous thread….
if c-span doesn’t work for you, steve has also put up links to newamerica’s audio (downloadable mp3) and video
ThatSinger @ 90
My S.O. calls Cheney Mr. Burns from the Simpsons.
Never was……
Never should have been…..
and is Not My President
this is an interresting narrative I have seen repeatedly over the past week
but, there is nothing really to lead one to expect that this particular tiny dose of reality would effect any change
The most respect any divergent viewpoint ever gets from the administration is lip service in place of disparagment.
OldCoastie @ 83
Gore is President - the Neocons staged a coup.
Hillary has a confession to make.
Now she says she wouldn’t have voted for the war if whe knew then what she knew now.
Yep, she’s running.
-GSD
Kathryn in MA @ 96
Bingo!
Pach, this is far and away the best post you’ve ever written. You managed to express everything I feel every day.
Thank you.
Pach said,
“I actually think this is a weak post in many respects. No links, no research. I don’t like that, actually. But I just found myself. . . speaking my mind.”
I disagree. It is not a weak post, in my opinion. It is from the heart. It is the truth. It speaks for us.
Adie @ 98
I keep thinking I am going to wake up from this nightmare.
I can only think of one word for this man.
Terrorist
Don’t have time to stay but …
I’ll say it: Impeach him
The Democratic Progressive Caucus put together an impeachment forum (I had a very, very small part) during the state Democratic convention last spring.
Links here
First impeach them, then indict them
Indicting Bush by Elizabeth De La Vega
She was one of the panelists at the forum.
My friend Bill describes it here
GSD @ 97
waaaaaaaay tooo little, toooo late.
I call BS.
Late, read the post, sorry if this is overly redundant.
Pachacutec - Sorry to disagree with you but how can someone write with certainty, as you do (and I agree with much of it), about such heinous acts and the determination to continue with them and not demand full accountability. This man is a cold hearted murderer, lying, spoiled torturing global terrorist and must be stopped by any and all legal means available to us!
Of course congress needs to move a whole lot of legislation through, but they wont be able to accomplish much with such an equal divide in parties. This country will not be set up properly to move on without condemnation of this neocon cabal, imo. John Dean has a very good article up at findlaw where he suggest congress impeach many of the little players as well and I agree wholeheartedly with him on that point in addition to prosecution of the Pres. and VP.
Without a complete spotlight and public scorn of his actions we are doomed to repeat them. As every passing day reinforces exactly the point I am making, I am not ready to make nice with such dangerous criminals ever again. Lock them up and throw away the key this time!
Small example, Ollie (fu****g) North is now in Iraq on assignment for Fox news! Our soldiers are taking bullets and dying while protecting the worst kind of American we could possibly send over there in the first place. This type of insanity as we all know is happening on such a large scale (O’beirne employment tactics) that we cannot just stroll past these war criminals once again, hoping they will just go away.
Love ya Pach. but put on the