
ABC News obtained a copy of a simple slide presentation created by a US Captain serving in Anbar Province. ABC explains that Captain Travis Patriquin "had fought in Afghanistan and Iraq. A gifted officer, he spoke numerous languages, including Arabic." In his stick-figure presentation, featuring "Joe" the American soldier and various Iraqi people, Captain Patriquin tried to explain to other officers what US forces needed to do to restore order in that region.
In a military known for its sleep-inducing, graphically dizzying PowerPoint presentations, the young captain's presentation, which has been unofficially circulating through the ranks, stands out. Using stick figures and simple language, it articulates the same goal as the president's in Iraq.
If you go to the link and find Click here for Patriquin's presentation, you can pull up the presentation, "How to Win in Al Anbar," and then walk through each of the 18 slides. Make sure you watch them in order.
Got the picture? The Captain's point seems to be that if we relied on the local Iraqis to decide their own affairs, including how to sort out the "bad Iraqis" from the "good Iraqis," conditions would be a lot better. That seems a helpful concept, but there are just two problems with this.
Look again at the slides with "Joe" in them. Then ask yourself: For this strategy to work, does Joe even need to be there?
The second, tragic problem is that this simple idea comes too late for nearly 3,000 American soldiers, and countless Iraqis. And the insight came too late for Captain Travis:
But Patriquin will not see victory in Iraq. He was killed by the same improvised explosive device that killed Maj. Megan McClung of the Marine Corps last Wednesday."How to Win in Al Anbar" may not make it to the desk of the president, but maybe it should.
So what does reach the president's desk? As Swopa discussed here, there's continued talk about "surging" 20,000 to 35,000 additional US troops, just the opposite of what Americans thought they voted for. Finally doing what he never did as Secretary of State, Colin Powell said publically on Face the Nation that the US was "losing" in Iraq and that the surge idea was misguided unless/until someone could define a coherent, achievable, and finite mission for those troops. Kinda an important question, no?
Powell also noted that we don't have any "new" troops to surge; all we can do is delay the rotation out, and speed up the rotation in, of the limited numbers available. Powell was reinforcing the views of many in the Pentagon who fear the Army is breaking. But do the WH neocons whose hands are on the steering wheel listen to real soldiers who might actually know what they're talking about? Probably not if the main co-driver is Dick Cheney, who said of his departing co-driver "Donald Rumsfeld is the finest Secretary of Defense this nation has ever had." Given who's driving the bus, one has to wonder why so many (including Jack Reed, Kerry, et al) think we need a bigger, faster bus. No one seems willing to point out the obvious: the drivers are reckless and need to lose their licenses.
Beyond that, there's the debate conducted via Whispers and Why Nots, summarized in this morning's New York Times article by Helene Cooper. In one corner, we have the "diplomatic and reasoned" position of Secretary of State Rice:
As President Bush and his deputies chew over whether there’s a Hail Mary pass to salvage Iraq, it has become increasingly clear that the president will probably throw the ball toward his secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice. . . .In this plan, America’s Sunni Arab allies would press centrist Iraqi Sunnis to support a moderate Shiite government. Outside Baghdad, Sunni leaders would be left alone to run Sunni towns. Radical Shiites, no longer needed for the coalition that keeps the national government afloat, would be marginalized. So would Iran and Syria. To buy off the Sunni Arab countries, the United States would push forward on a comprehensive peace plan in Israel and the Palestinian territories.
And in the other, darker corner, we have the "Darwinian Principle" applied to foreign policy, coming from unknown persons in the Vice President's office:
The Darwin Principle, Beltway version, basically says that Washington should stop trying to get Sunnis and Shiites to get along and instead just back the Shiites, since there are more of them anyway and they’re likely to win in a fight to the death. After all, the proposal goes, Iraq is 65 percent Shiite and only 20 percent Sunni.Sorry, Sunnis.
But not to worry, there's a good reason to apply Darwin to Iraq, but it's only whispered, for obvious reasons:
Darwin? Try Machiavelli. An even more far-fetched offshoot of the Darwin Principle is floating around, which some hawks have tossed out in meetings, although not seriously, one administration official said. It holds that America could actually hurt Iran by backing Iraq’s Shiites; that could deepen the Shiite-Sunni split and eventually lead to a regional Shiite-Sunni war. And in that, the Shiites — and Iran — lose because, while there are more Shiites than Sunnis in Iraq and Iran, there are more Sunnis than Shiites almost everywhere else.Wow.
Wow, indeed.
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Why don’t we leave Iraq to the Iraqi’s?
We like to call it “democracy by genocide” it is all the rage amongst the intellengentisa.
-GSD
Good evening folks. Sorry I missed the Salon. Looks like there was a lively discussion of the geographic dispersion of ignorance. Hope everyone survives.
Yay, more scarecrow !
Oh yeah, it looks like the mysterious Jamail Hussein, the police officer who was the source for the much questioned(by the righty bloggoputzes)”Sunnis on fire” horror story has been located and looks like lots of putzes are gonna have to dial back their lies.
-GSD
Scarecrow @
4
Yeah, we’re fine. Just a bit of painting with an overly-wide brush, I think.
Scarecrow @
4
You sayin’ I’m stoopid?
GSD — I missed that; they found the original source? What about the question of whether he could have known what was happening in another part of the city? Is that resolved? And is MM still going?
I didn’t think this administration subscribed to Darwin’s theories.
GSD @
6
Dial back their lies? They don’t do that. (Just like they don’t do windows.) They’ll just stay the course somehow. This is why they love Little Boots. Same modus operandi. Proud of their refusal to face reality. “We create our OWN reality…”
TeddySanFran — when I useta live in the Bay Area, and later in Sacramento, one of my favorite things to do this time of year was to go hear Chanticleer. Are they still around?
PeteCO @ 10
Watch what they do, not what they teach.
Ten points to the first reporter to ask Colin Powell why he lied to the entire world at the UN and when he is going to publicly apologize to Valerie Wilson for failing to use his influence to protect her and the country.
What an apparatchik.
PeteCO @ 10
Not when applied to the scientific world.
But “social Darwinism”? They LOVE that.
surge = escalation
80% solution = ethnic cleansing
(pass the word.)
Yeah, were all good. Better than the Sunnis. Just when ya think Bushplan can’t get any worse, it does.
More posts on ponies and candy please.
OT - :( 1 climber found dead on Mt. Hood
this Chanticleer?
Scarecrow @ 13
No sh!t.
TeddySanFran @ 16
I say again, no sh!t.
David Gregory needs to ask W at the next Press Avail: If the first day of shock and awe had taken out Saddam and his sons, as was planned, what would have been the role of the US Armed Forces? Now that the sons are dead and Saddam is convicted, what is the role of the US Armed Services? Why are we nation-building when you promised not to?
Also, why are no Arab translators available to go alongside these new training missions — just because you’ve kicked all the Arabists outta the services after finding out they’re gay?
… oh, and:
Troops
Home
NOW
Are there any sound reasons to keep American troops in Iraq? (sound reasons)
In Justice Wept post—
egregious @ 60
Still there. Possible to correct before we spotlight?
TeddySanFran @ 19
Yes. Best choral group in America. It’s best to hear them in a cathedral, where the sound resonates well.
oh, we are in serious poop.
more stupidity from ignorant leaders and the poor victims of their ignorance.
I want out of Iraq. I want the gulag that is Gaza stopped. I want leadership from my Democratic party’s presidential hopefuls.
So, we are starting WWIII in the Middle East.
I am SO proud.
America: beacon of ‘freedom’.
egregious @ 24
I assume this is referring to Christy’s morning thread on the Iraq legal system? I don’t have access. Perhaps Mods do?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 23
No.
I suppose there are some people somewhere who will say, “well because Saudi Arabia is threatening to fund the Sunnis if we pull out,” that that is somehow a sound reason.
I don’t buy it. That particular genie (the threat of regional war) will not go back in the bottle just because we keep our soldiers in the meat grinder we’re responsible for setting up.
So, my opinion is “no.”
Marion in Savannah @ 7
Yep.
Earlier today — or yesterday? — there was a threaded debate about Colin Powell. His Doctrine, and his statements today, are going to be useful to Democrats who don’t subscribe to either the McCain/Lieberman DeathPlan or TSF Option 4 (THN). I hope National Democrats invite Powell to testify in January, prior to W’s Big Speech on Iraq, so that his words to Schieffer today will have a wider audience.
I think they are -trying- to break the army, and will then leave the mess to the dems, including at that point the necessity of bringing back the draft. It’s all Clinton’s fault, the repubs are innocent.
TeddySanFran @ 22
Teddy SF - What great questions- am off to find David Gregory’s email in the hope he will actually see and be inspired to actually provoke an answer from W on one or more.
Mrs. K8 @ 30
That is the short answer,(I do so admire linguistic economy). And of course, you don’t need me to say it; the correct answer. ;)
It’s so sad about Powell-he could have been a great American.
But Patriquin will not see victory in Iraq. He was killed by the same improvised explosive device that killed Maj. Megan McClung of the Marine Corps last Wednesday.
This sucks. Here’s a guy who “got it” (including how badly the US has been screwing up for the first four years), distilled it down to its simplest elements, and communicated it to other people.
And he’s gone. That sucks.
egregious @ 28
Some argue WWIII has begun.
If Harry Reid were not caught up in this land scandal in Nevada, would he have caved?! Sorry for the snark, but, just sayin….
You’ll notice that (unless they are in the double digits) US casualty counts have all but disappeared from the nightly network newscasts while The Deciderer dithers.
Ty, npb!
I’m excited to see tonight’s WCoast rerun of MTP in case Timmeh asked any of my San Francisco Family Values questions of Newtie.
PeteCO @ 36
It seems he’s working hard to restore his honor. I’ve seen him on several shows recently, and he’s been quite outspoken. Juan Williams did an excellent interview of Powell on CPAN a couple of nights ago. He’s very personable. And then Juan carries that information over to the Fox News panels — remember his “Sometimes I just want to scream!” at Brit Hume?
Impeach Rice First !
TeddySanFran @ 43
okay!
p.lukasiak @ 37
Yes. Tragic. There seem to be a lot of our troops over there just trying to do the right thing, as best they can figure it out, under conditions and policies over which they have no control. Their leaders have let them down, and we still haven’t figured out how to bring those leaders to change.
I was at National airport last night picking up a lovely egr child, and while waiting saw the reunion of a returning vet with his family. It was intense. Beyond the usual joy was a palpable relief that he was still alive, with all 4 limbs, not blind, not brain damaged.
Can we justify what we are doing to a generation of vets?
AND FOR WHAT?
Permanent basesNot WMD,OIL, not freedom for the Iraqi people,money, not democracy,an Israel-friendly governmentstanding in the crossfire of a civil war?Why are we asking these beautiful young people to die and be maimed for life?
And WHY THE BLOODY HELL are we sending 20,000 - 40,000 MORE YOUNG PEOPLE over there to be shot at?
Other people’s children. Other people’s money. Someone else’s problem.
Scarecrow @
42
I would word that a little differently: Powell is working to restore the appearance of honor.
He lost his honor for good at My Lai.
JMO.
the “Machiavelli principle” makes removing our military from iraq even more urgent.
i don’t expect the cheney/bush administration to propose ending the war (or even scaling back) - but i do expect the D majority congress to put the brakes on. Reid is driving me crazy.
continuation of this war/occupation will need some more $ soon… how can we pressure our congresscritters to withhold spending - Ds shouldn’t be buying the war. even if one ignores the morality - pragmatically it makes no sense.
and then i read something like this:
and that’s ignoring the stupid bits from Will Marshall.
Selise — thanks for the link. I thought this was interesting, from that same post:
This is like the argument the US and France had over putting a UN force into Lebanon earlier this year. We wanted the force in there to continue the Israeli goal of disarming Hizbullah — i.e., as an extension of the Israeli Army under UN cover, while the Europeans wanted solid truce first and then UN forces as peacekeepers. Bush people don’t seem to like “peacekeepers.”
p.lukasiak @ 37
Read your second paragraph, then look at what happened to him. Accident?
Pat Tillman was aware of the larger issues. Friendly fire ‘accident’?
Not to quibble but he wasn’t “at” My Lai. Maybe you meant becuase of his role in the subsequent investigation?
Mrs. K8 @
47
Oklahoma kiddo @ 38
Family friend who was a diplomat for 50 years said the invasion of Iraq was a mistake that people would be talking about “for the next 500 years.”
Will we ever feel safe again?
Scarecrow @ 49
exactly.
and credit where credit is due, it was nice to see that biden is making sense… and so are a few other Ds, but not enough - yet.
Thinking of the Hail Mary Pass. Is this the same as the ‘last throws’?
And you felt safe when?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 53
Your family friend’s more optimistic than I, thinking there’ll be folks around to talk about this in 500 years!
raven @ 56
Well… I felt safer when Carter was president. And I realize ’safer’ is not the same as ’safe’. But some call me a “dreamer”. And I suppose I am.
Knut Wicksell @ 55
Same idea. I keep waiting for Glenn Greenwald to do a post on how many times the neocons (and Biden, too) have used the terms “one last chance” in the last three years.
a little bit OT… wrt iran - for folks who don’t want to read all 30 pages of the Flynt Leverett paper steve clemens has linked to, emptywheel has pulled and analyzed some critical bits. emptywheel’s conclusion:
What role is the US playing by staying? well since Iraqis believe that the “armed gunmen in police uniforms” who carry out kidnappings are SCIRI “special forces” and given today’s news of 30 Red Crescent aid workers kidnapped by such armed men - two days after the Baghdad Red Crescent office criticized US troops for breaking into their hq, burning their cars and otherwise harassing them, I’d say it’s more than time we stopped aiding the death squads … and get the hell out.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6187357.stm
powell’s interview was educational and EXCELLANT
Mrs. K8 @ 30
Anybody else old enough to remember “the domino theory?” This has a remarkably similar stink to me.
Random shots…
Friedman actually committed journalism on MTP today, the gist of which was, with Cheney claiming Rumsfeld the greatest SecDef every, was Cheney lying or Bush a fool for firing the best ever?
Yoooh, Tommy. Try applying some logic like that a little more often. Perhaps the world isn’t flat.
The Army/Marines not having the wherewithal to mount effective operations going forward is driving me insane. It is emboldening NK, Iran, China, etc. because they know it will be years before we can repair our ground forces. (yoooh Bush - a good starting point for fixing the Army would be to bring them home.)
Imagine
Oklahoma kiddo @ 58
“…I’d say it’s more than time we stopped aiding the death squads … and get the hell out.”
Ah Siun… Music ta me ears.
Siun — assume you saw angie’s comment earlier today with excerpts from markfromireland on the kidnapping. The BBC link doesn’t mention the prior incident involving US troops, as mfi’s story did. Wonder if there is any other confirmation of that.
Also, Friedman didn’t utter a single FU. Brooks did it for him.
Marion in Savannah @ 63
Ed*ard Teller and I and probably others here spent time in one of those dominoes. The only way that theory ever worked was when Nixon went into Laos, Cambodia.
Scarecrow @ 67
actually, it was Siun who alerted us to the article and excerpted from mfi’s blog.
oops, hit enter too soon
powel’s interview was educational and EXCELLANT
He points out what I’ve said for the last couple of weeks, there is no 20,000 troops to send
I’ve been saying the democrats need to ask him where he’s getting these men from, and they need HIM to say “out of thin air, we are using what we have from everywhere to provide the reosurces for this surge”
then we MAKE IT CLEAR he is puttin our national security at risk, he is breaking the military and LAY THE BLAME SQUARELY AT HIS DOOR, so he can NEVER say it was the democrats that prevented him from a successfull campaign
and contrary to his past “strategy”, HE NEEDS TO SET THE GOAL BEFORE THE “PLAN’ IS OUT INTO MOTION
no “winging it”, no “send in the cavalry”, HE NEEDS TO HAVE A PLAN AND HE NEEDS TO TELL US WHAT SUCCESS WILL LOOK LIKE
then we need to decide if success is possible with the strategy he intends on experimenting with
we need to point out as much as possible that his plan is militarily moronic
TeddySanFran @
41
Teddy,
I tried watching the earlier rerun of this and they didn’t show it. They were doing live shots from Mt. Hood instead. Sad story. Mt. Hood and Timberline is one of my favorite places in the world and a very dangerous place for climbers no matter how experienced.
Meanwhile as CNN & MSNBC cover that to the nth degree, lots and lots of people continue to die in Iraq and Afghanistan . . . . but that’s no longer news, I guess.
In the Middle East we are literally playing with fire.
We were sorta in Laos way before the trickster took over.
Scarecrow @ 69
I’m gonna go out on a limb here;
I think if someone from the press frames the question correctly, pointing out what powel told us, there are no troops, the military is broken, pointing out that before the aggression he was informed he would need 400,000 troops to even hope to stabalize the insurgency, and pointing out that the enlisted men are serving four and five tours just to satisfy what is failing;
I believe if the question is framed correctly, he will hedge his claim that he would have attacked Iraq again.
like he was taken by surprised when the journalist asked him what Iraq had to do with al qaeda and he blurted out “nothing”
if he’ cought off guard, I acutally think he will temper his claim that this was not a mistake
watch congressional Dems line up and vote for Bush’s $100 billion supplemental appropriation to further his appalling military calamity.
They will say they have to ‘keep their powder dry’ for 2008.
For me, it will deepen the legitimacy crisis that woeful ‘opposition party’ has brought upon itself.
It will take some pretty fierce investigating, with severe repercussions for some important Cheneyites, for the national Donkeys to retain any legitimacy whatsoever, sweeping into control of Congress on an antiwar wave, then voting enough money to sustain the war for most of the rest of Shrubs term.
Maybe Obama will orate that he hopes these billions will be better managed than all the money squandered up until now?
But then he will vote for it.
this stuff won’t be forgotten.
Scarecrow - sorry … I got called away. The earlier incident is covered … and mentioned in the BBC link I sent … one sec and I’ll pass along the more extensive link.
here we go:
http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RW.....038;cc=irq
Iraqi Red Crescent accuses U.S. forces of attacks
By Stephanie Nebehay
GENEVA, Dec 15 (Reuters) - The Iraqi Red Crescent accused U.S. forces on Friday of carrying out a spate of attacks on its offices over the last three years during operations to flush out suspected militants.
Jamal Al Karbouli, vice-president of the Iraqi Red Crescent, said that in the latest incident, U.S forces had occupied and nearly destroyed its Falluja office, held staff for hours, and burned two cars clearly marked with its neutral symbol.
The only Iraqi aid agency working in all 18 provinces, its 1,000 staff and 200,000 volunteers already face extremely difficult conditions because of the growing sectarian violence, he said.
“The main difficulties we are facing, first of all, is the presence of MNF, the multinational forces, which sometimes gives us a hard time. They are attacking some offices and detaining some volunteers,” Karbouli told a news conference in Geneva.
“The last example was about seven days ago in Falluja. We had our offices attacked by American forces, they detained the volunteers and staff more than two hours and they burned the cars and even the building which belonged to us,” he added.
Karbouli said U.S. forces had “attacked” its Baghdad headquarters a number of times since the overthrow of former President Saddam Hussein in 2003. In most of the incidents, the Americans claimed to have received “information”.
“Four to five times they have attacked the headquarters, they break doors and windows, just to see. And they didn’t find anything and they left,” he said.
“We don’t know the reason behind it, is it to scare us or decrease our work or another reason, as they mention, fear of terrorists? We don’t know.”
“The Iraqi Red Crescent is the only Iraqi body working all over Iraq. Because of this, they are suspicious,” Karbouli said.
there’s more at the link
Very Serious People brought us this Iraq abomination. We need to refrain from believing all the dire consequences they put forth regarding an immediate withdrawal. They have been fluently wrong. About. Every. Thing.
Tonight’s quiz: Who said this?
It’s about narcissism, which is why a mirror is absolutely perfect. So much of what is done on the web is people getting on there and writing their diaries as though everyone ought to care about every one’s inner turmoils. I mean it’s extraordinary..
doh– Siun just found that article again, too!
George Will, University High School, Urbana, IL.
Scarecrow @ 80
First thing:
Stories about the ‘listening tour’ point out that bush is hearing ‘lots of opinions’. NEVER ‘variety of opinions’ ‘wide range of opinions’ or ‘competing opinions’ ‘divergent opinions’…
Could be he’s got a ’surge’ of opinions. ALL THE SAME.
(when confronted with an ‘INsurgency’ the proper response would seemm to be an ‘OUTsurgency’. Sorry, a bit of black humor, not meant to demean the death and destruction. Even though the Deciderer amkes that decision daily…and sleeps well, so he says.)
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EPU’d - Oklahoma kiddo - your whole town population is less than half the size of my HS graduating class. And there were three other HS’s plus a Catholic school in this city.
No, the point is not bigger is better, just that I find that fact astounding, amazing…etc. American diverstiy @ work.
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I’m with you - troops. home. now.
Siun — thanks much. I haven’t seen that prior story anywhere on mainstream US media.
George is disturbed that anyone would have a point of view contrary to his own, or anyone would read anything not written by a rightard like himself.
Ending illusions
Leader
Monday December 18, 2006
The Guardian
It speaks volumes about the dire state of the Middle East that a foreign head of government visiting Iraq dare not stray beyond the heavily fortified “green zone” in central Baghdad and that the entire Gaza Strip - the centre of the region’s latest escalating crisis - is now strictly out of bounds on security grounds.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lead.....45,00.html
Og but he’s sooo frickin smart. I’d love to wipe that smirk of his face.
Oilfieldguy @ 85
raven @ 82
Yep. He was responding to the Time guy talking about why YOU are Persons of the Year. He just can’t handle the idea that people might actually be interested in reading someone other than him.
I was going to ask about this one, but it’s too obviously Rummy:
“We do know of certain knowledge that he [Osama Bin Laden] is either in Afghanistan, or in some other country, or dead.”
With all due respect, I think the loons are out of the bin. Somebody get a big net.
Does the WH have any shred of humanity? How many must perish to satisfy the “Decider”?
Powell:
US should begin to draw down troops by the middle of next year.
I cheated, I taped George this morning and just finished watching it when you posted. I’d still like to slap his happy ass!
Scarecrow @ 88
Is it narcissistic to want to be heard? To feel that your opinions matter and to be validated by like-minded people?
Is narcissism the antithesis of sheeple?
I think this guy dissed us and the entire post-modern world.
No soup for you!
Democrats. Republicans. Bring our people home. There is no compromise. There is no gray area.
well Scarecrow … US media isn’t big on covering our funding and training and support of death squads … after that ‘05 article on the El Salvador option, they kinda shut up about all that …
how much better to spout the “tribal, historic” etc bullshit that Iraqis are just not ready for civilized behavior like us good americans who spread democracy and chewing gum
Siun @ 94
yeppers.
Powell is a war criminal … covered up My Lai then got reinvented as the good guy then traded on that to sell the invasion of Iraq for his minders.
So now that he’s out of power and sees a chance to regain his “prestige” - suddenly he tells a little truth (not too much mind you) … does not make me celebrate
raven @ 82
Not at all surprising. The inside-the-Beltway crowd sincerely believes that it goes one way–they create wisdom, and we receive it. That’s the nature of received wisdom.
What rankles, I think, is that the blogs enable a lot of opinion. Some of it, sure, is wholly narcissistic. Some of it is abject drivel–low minds attempting to tackle lofty concepts.
But, it’s very egalitarian. Don’t even need a computer of your own to have a blog–just have to visit almost any library. That’s what’s put a burr in Will’s underwear–that there are people being heard who are at least his equal, and that they have the bad manners to speak plainly about not only the power elite, but about his often tortured logic, as well.
Sour grapes. Fuck him.
At least G.Will’s last sentence quoted there is true: “I mean, it’s extraordinary.”
Yep. Starting w/Vannevar Bush (no relation) thru Vint Cerf and all the other Silicon Valley visionaries.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pioneers/
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Imagine—>Maybe I’m Amazed.
Ugh… (Bush’s plan?)
I’m gonna be pushing my reps and senators to cut off funding … fund a withdrawal but that’s it. Seems about what the american people thought they voted on in November and it’s time to demand the elected ones follow our orders.
Siun @ 96
ditto and yep.
Boy, if that isn’t the most ignernt (a colloquism meant to underscore immense