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		<title>By: Lindy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/17/sunday-talking-head-thread-35/#comment-422182</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-422110&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jayt @&lt;br /&gt;
                110              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Brooks and Friedman on MTP at the same time…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Driftglass oughta be good today.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2006/12/texodus-part-1.html&quot;&gt;D R I F T G L A S S is indeed good today.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-422110"><em>jayt @<br />
                110              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Brooks and Friedman on MTP at the same time…</p>
<p>Driftglass oughta be good today.</p>
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<p><a href="http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2006/12/texodus-part-1.html">D R I F T G L A S S is indeed good today.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Balrog</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/17/sunday-talking-head-thread-35/#comment-422150</link>
		<dc:creator>Balrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-422137&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Marion in Savannah @ 131&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can sympathize with her to a certain degree.  Your adopted daughter has a father.  You.  It’s the total absence of one that can make you angry and confused.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;David and Marion, I see your points and agree.  But if I may play Point-Counterpoint again, I wonder if this young woman tries to understand her Mother’s point of view; to understand the situation that she was in when she chose to bring her daughter into the world knowing that she would have to provide all of the love that a family can bring.  Or is she bitter with her Mother for doing it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It could just as easily been a fly-by-night, no-good, uncaring Dad that bailed after the first positive pregnancy test.  Would her feelings be different then?  Would Mom still have been the target of her disdain?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope this young woman can get past this and learn to be happy that she is alive and healthy regardless of how it happened.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-422137"><em>Marion in Savannah @ 131</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I can sympathize with her to a certain degree.  Your adopted daughter has a father.  You.  It’s the total absence of one that can make you angry and confused.</p>
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<p>David and Marion, I see your points and agree.  But if I may play Point-Counterpoint again, I wonder if this young woman tries to understand her Mother’s point of view; to understand the situation that she was in when she chose to bring her daughter into the world knowing that she would have to provide all of the love that a family can bring.  Or is she bitter with her Mother for doing it?</p>
<p>It could just as easily been a fly-by-night, no-good, uncaring Dad that bailed after the first positive pregnancy test.  Would her feelings be different then?  Would Mom still have been the target of her disdain?</p>
<p>I hope this young woman can get past this and learn to be happy that she is alive and healthy regardless of how it happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/17/and-justice-wept/&quot;&gt;Fresh thread&lt;/a&gt;, gang.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/17/and-justice-wept/">Fresh thread</a>, gang.</p>
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		<title>By: Blank Kludge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blank Kludge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You add a ’surge’ of troops to fight ‘inSURGEnts’ doncha know?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You add a ’surge’ of troops to fight ‘inSURGEnts’ doncha know?</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/17/sunday-talking-head-thread-35/#comment-422143</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hmmm…quote button isn’t working&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;anyway, I want to add an adendum to my “escalating commitement” post&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hit submit before I was ready&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so there we were, actually debating 20,000 more soldiers, which of course legitimizes 40,000&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;then when we start talking about that, it turns into 100,000&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bottom line is this;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;according to the generals in the field, if he doesn’t get the total up to half a million, there is no chance for any kind of headway in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that’s where he’s headed…it’s “go big”, it’s not “go home”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it’s a combination of “go big and go long”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he’s creating the scenarion that makes the phsycological term “escalating commitment” bear fruit&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when I say “he’s”, I mean his pupeteers, he’s just a marionette&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm…quote button isn’t working</p>
<p>anyway, I want to add an adendum to my “escalating commitement” post</p>
<p>I hit submit before I was ready</p>
<p>so there we were, actually debating 20,000 more soldiers, which of course legitimizes 40,000</p>
<p>then when we start talking about that, it turns into 100,000</p>
<p>bottom line is this;</p>
<p>according to the generals in the field, if he doesn’t get the total up to half a million, there is no chance for any kind of headway in Iraq.</p>
<p>that’s where he’s headed…it’s “go big”, it’s not “go home”</p>
<p>it’s a combination of “go big and go long”</p>
<p>he’s creating the scenarion that makes the phsycological term “escalating commitment” bear fruit</p>
<p>when I say “he’s”, I mean his pupeteers, he’s just a marionette</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You’re welcome, Jack @ 69.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
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		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Imminent thread.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/artsandliving/features/2006/holiday-guide/gifts/dave_barry_gift_guide/index.html&quot;&gt;Dave Barry desperation gift guide&lt;/a&gt; is available.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imminent thread.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/artsandliving/features/2006/holiday-guide/gifts/dave_barry_gift_guide/index.html">Dave Barry desperation gift guide</a> is available.</p>
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		<title>By: RagingGurrl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/17/sunday-talking-head-thread-35/#comment-422140</link>
		<dc:creator>RagingGurrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fear monger Brooks on MTP: possibly a nuclear weapon under every tent… with a spreading wave of chaos…must have surge of troops to win.&lt;br /&gt;
Somebody slap him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear monger Brooks on MTP: possibly a nuclear weapon under every tent… with a spreading wave of chaos…must have surge of troops to win.<br />
Somebody slap him.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion in Savannah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/17/sunday-talking-head-thread-35/#comment-422137</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion in Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-422124&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Balrog @ 122&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-422115&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;David Ehrenstein @ 114&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do you say that, Balrog?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Struck me as self pitying, lash out at the world, I’m so miserable because of someone elses choices whining.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have a 15 year old adopted daughter who doesn’t know who her biological mother and father are but she regularly reflects on how lucky she is to have me as her Dad.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Change what you can, accept what you can’t.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She’s lucky to have you.  I was raised by an only parent and was introduced to my father at age 14 by a summer camp counselor, with the State Police hovering in helicopters in the region in case he had visions of kidnap in his mind…  I can sympathize with her to a certain degree.  Your adopted daughter has a father.  You.  It’s the total absence of one that can make you angry and confused.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-422124"><em>Balrog @ 122</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-422115"><em>David Ehrenstein @ 114</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Why do you say that, Balrog?</p>
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<p>Struck me as self pitying, lash out at the world, I’m so miserable because of someone elses choices whining.</p>
<p>I have a 15 year old adopted daughter who doesn’t know who her biological mother and father are but she regularly reflects on how lucky she is to have me as her Dad.</p>
<p>Change what you can, accept what you can’t.</p>
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<p>She’s lucky to have you.  I was raised by an only parent and was introduced to my father at age 14 by a summer camp counselor, with the State Police hovering in helicopters in the region in case he had visions of kidnap in his mind…  I can sympathize with her to a certain degree.  Your adopted daughter has a father.  You.  It’s the total absence of one that can make you angry and confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Prof</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/17/sunday-talking-head-thread-35/#comment-422136</link>
		<dc:creator>Prof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-422120&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Balrog @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-422099&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Prof @ 102&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-422075&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ironranger @ 81 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Balrog: what a surprise, a sudden out of range step-unit. Logic does it every time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Balrog, you funny.  You very funny.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually ironranger gets credit for the above line.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know, but I didn’t want to scroll back.  I meant &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; original posting.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-422120"><em>Balrog @ 118</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-422099"><em>Prof @ 102</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-422075"><em>ironranger @ 81 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Balrog: what a surprise, a sudden out of range step-unit. Logic does it every time.</p>
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<p>Balrog, you funny.  You very funny.</p>
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<p>Actually ironranger gets credit for the above line.</p>
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<p>I know, but I didn’t want to scroll back.  I meant <i>your</i> original posting.</p>
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