Running From Dubya?By: Jane Hamsher Friday December 15, 2006 4:30 pm |
After an article in the SFist yesterday on opposition to Ellen Tausher coming on the heels of her Blue Dog meeting with Dubya, it looks like her official government website has tried to scrub the photo that launched a thousand blog posts.
Don't worry, Ellen. We'll remember.
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And the zed goes to……
She doesn’t look like she’s about to run from Dubya. Not in that picture, anyway.
let’s add this from the previous comments to the comments on this post as well;
Bustednuckles @
1
Bustednuckles! YAY! Congrats. By the way, I would NEVER want to be looked by another human being the way that woman is looking at that man. If looks could kill…
I think Tausher is beginning to appear a tinsy bit gritty.
Run, to the Lincoln Bedroom maybe…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 5
Gritty like a Clint Eastwood Western, or gritty like sandpaper?
Our President’s right hand is a bit bothersome.
She looks spookily like Marilyn Musgrave. Have they been seen in the same room at the same time?
Ellen, there aren’t many people dumb enough to get their photo taken with a POTUS with a jar around 30%. Have you thought of switching parties? Please, consider it.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 8
Maybe he mistook her for Chancellor Merkel.
EPU’ed
On the NewsHour, after Rumsfeld departure today with full military honors, Shields describes him as a tragic figure and a scapegoat. This is too much even for Brooks who says he wasn’t a scapegoat. He suppressed dissent and alternate views. (Of course, Brooks was one of the last defenders of Bush’s Iraq policy. He seems to have forgotten this since his change of mind.) Both agree he was a “smart” man.
Lehrer asks if he was so smart why did he do so many dumb things. Tap dancing and references to personality follow. Shields does say Rummy leaves military in a weakened state. Ya think? Brooks says Rumsfeld was cutting edge. So he was not a stick in the mud disaster. Good to know.
Brooks: ISG report may prolong stay in Iraq because it froze debate for a month. This is the blatherer I have come to expect.
Shields: ISG was bipartisan. Iraq disaster Bush’s legacy.
I understand they intend to replace the photo with this one.
EvilDrPuma @ 7
It’s hard to tell. Perhaps a bit of both.
All I know is that any time I’ve ever “cut my eyes” (a Southernism) at anyone like that, replete with the downturn of the lip, I’ve had visions of knives and guns dancing in my mind…
Oh come on people. Who cares if she met with the president? Harry Reid meets with the president too. I swear the liberal web is starting to get childish. No where near Bush league level status, but on its way.
PeteCO @ 11
Great minds, PeteCo…
George Orwell lives! (or at least, Winston Smith still has his old job)
Jane, your first link is to sfist, not sfgate. Is this the right story, or is there another one you wanted to point us to?
Joe @
16
It’s not the fact that she met with the president, at least not to me. That’s part of her job. However, what makes him think he can put his hands on her? It goes to his character, or, more precisely, lack thereof.
Patrick 4/4 @ 17
OK, two incidences do not a behavioural pattern make, but one wonders how many times he’s touched women inappropriately that haven’t been caught on film.
Joe @ 16
Joe, have you ever heard of the MILITARY COMMISSIONS ACT? Was that “childish?“
How about K Street? Is that “childish?”
Ellen just wants her turn at the K Street trough. That’s the message that you’re obviously missing. Ask Ellen if she supports publicly financing national elections?
Joe @ 16
I’m less concerned whether she met with/got groped by Bush than whether she has voted to support his agenda.
Anyone know anything about that?
she voted for the war…….
Couldn’t happen to a more “deserving” person. I love that in the article, she’s now being identified with “L” — which stands for this guy.
neurophius @ 23
As was once said of Lieberman…Tausher is a different kind of Democrat. The Republican kind.
Bush usually only touches/kisses people who do what he wants. Sitting next to him and tolerating his hand on her arm is enough to at least make me suspect her of collaborating.
scarecrow @ 25
We don’t call him Liarman for nothing.
I am thinking I will seep tight tonight. For Laura, huge brain First Lady, informs us today that Secretary of State Rice would “make a very good candidate” for prez.
neurophius @
23
No, I don’t know whether or not Ellen has supported the Bush agenda. I’m curious about that too, but it seems that liberal websites want to bitch slap this woman JUST FOR MEETING HIM. I mean, she could have theoretically “met” him to tell him he’s a fucking asshole. Let’s judge people fairly, not based on silly nonsense.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 29
Yeah, but do we really want Condi’s husband hanging around the White House any more?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 29
I thought Michael Crichton was the one doing the seeping…(previous thread)
PeteCO @ 21
Are we then in a position of thinking our President possibly fits “the profile”?
Joe, the other issue is the false symbolism of “bi-partisanship.”
Beyond invading Iraq, engaging in torture and refusing to communicate, Bush has done nothing except lower taxes on the wealthy and attempt to dismantle the law enforcement responsibilities of the government. Lobbyists routinely buy justice for their corporate clients. Ellen’s decision to allow her photo to be taken with him lends credibility to the Bush agenda. If you know of something in our nation that is better as a result of Bush being President, I’m all ears.
I respectfully submit this image for the official FDL Spew Warning
angie @ 24
Angie, If that’s true, thank you for pointing this out. Don’t expect liberal web sites to give her credit for that though… because SHE MET WITH THE PRESIDENT! OMG!
Hugh @ 12
Hugh, I saw that and thought Shields was leading off by being polite, as one would at a funeral for someone you didn’t really like. His final comment, that Rumsfeld left the military in a “weakened state” is really devastating, when you think about what the man’s job was. No one will weep for Rummy.
ignore my last comment people, I’ve realized that I misread that.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 33
Bush fits several profiles…that the FBI usually takes a more active interest in.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 33
It’s Shrub-of course he does!
EvilDrPuma @ 31
Condi and George. Strictly bizarre. Perhaps material for an opera of ’some sort’.
neurophius @
23
My favorite example of her cheerleading for the Republican agenda was on the bankruptcy bill. Heck even TNR called foul. You know it is bad when…
Joe @ 38
I’m sure that’s happened to all of us!
I still think that Ms. Merkel should have gotten up, slapped him, and sat back down.
John Casper @ 34
John,
If you’re a liberal, like me, you probably tend to believe that one SHOULD meet with one’s enemies. I believe that in the case of Iran and North Korea, and I also believe that in the case of the Monkey In Chief.
Meeting with him probably won’t make much of a difference, but a little is better than nothing.
“she voted for the war……” Are we talking about Hillary here?
Really, meeting with the president is grounds for censure. Me thinks you people are a little too full of yourself. Keep your enemies list short or you make yourself irrelevant.
jayt @ 44
Or simply picked off the offending appendages, rather like large ugly spiders, and removed them. With an expression of distaste and disdain.
Ernie Fazio … nice comment.
Completely agree with you.
Joe, a pleasure to have you at FDL.
Joe @ 45
Joe, you may be old enough (as I am) to remember when true bipartisanship occurred. But that was “back in the day,” before Newt Gingrich poisoned the well. I mourn the loss.
routine zig clean-up
Joe @
30
To quote Barry Crimmins: “Never shake hands with a war criminal.”
Cozying up to their crimes (which Tauscher has done) is a no-no, too….
scarecrow, thanks for the Crooks and Liars link.
My position is this. I believe all woman meeting with our prez should carry pepper spray ‘and’ Mace. At all times.
Marion in Savannah @
51
Marion in Savannah:
You didn’t happen to listen to Obama’s recent speech, where he talked about the importance of “hope” did you? Well, I’m hopeful that with enough work, we can figure out how to fix the political discourse in this country. You’re right. Its been broken for about 15 years now, ever since that sick Freshman class of Rick Santorum entered the scene.
I hope we can fix the discourse. And I believe that we can.
Twisted Martini @
35
Are they putting those up in front of all Taco Bells and Olive Gardens now? :)
montag @
57
and the White House.
montag @ 57
ah, yes: driving the porcelain bus.
punaise @ 59
Now, if I were to put this together with angie’s @ 58, we’d know that the government has made it official that Bush is on the sauce again. :)
This is so f’ing rich. Cheney trying to distance himself from Bush. Olbermann.
The picture of Tauscher and Bush is emblematic of the too close relationship of some Democrats with the Bush Administration. Tauscher is National Vice Chair of the DLC which has tried to fill Democratic ranks with Republican-lite candidates. She represents representatives who would rather enable a President with JARs hovering around 30% than listen to their constituents or their Democratic base.
Hugh — Dana Milbank just described the Rumsfeld farewell as like a “state funeral.”
Joe @ 55, 5:00 PM, I think we’re in agreement here. Until we’re able to realize, on both sides of the political fence, that demonizing each other is counter-productive we’re destined to continue down the road we’re currently traveling. Barack Obama may not be {oh, all Gods forgive me} “The Great White Hope,” but he at least is talking about hope. John Edwards deserves a listen too, in my opinion.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 61
Yes, Olbermann attributing it US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT.
scarecrow @ 63
Remember when the people in Haight-Ashbury buried the hippie in 1968?
Maybe we need a “bury the neo-con” ceremony? :)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 56
And a black belt in Tae Kwan Do (spelling?) wouldn’t hurt either.
let’s distinguish between:
a) spew (hurl chunks) and
b) spew (involuntary exit through the nose and/or mouth of liquid in the process of being imbibed, due to shock or extreme humor….commonly used as a rhetorical device)
If I’m remembering correctly, there are PLENTY of reasons to dislike Ms. Tauscher, and none of them have to do with MEETING with Bush.
She is a super-hyer-mega supporter of the rights of corporations, and not so big on the rights of her constituents.
Now the following is what I remember, and if I’ve gotten it wrong, please correct me. I’ve read on the web somewhere a detailed report on one of her town-hall-type meetings with her constituents which amounted to her trying to tell them what’s what. Period.
When some of said constituents politely expressed their dissent and concern with the policies she espoused, she pretty much packed up her marbles and went home.
It’s my understanding that she has a very low opinion of grassroots anything. And she seems to think that a primary challenge to her incumbency is some sort of gross offense against human decency, rather than the point of the whole democratic process. (You know, just like a certain CFL-Party candidate we all know.)
(edited acronym to reflect “Connecticut for Liebermann” NOT “Council on Foreign Relations.” Sorry about that!)
ok– let us give KO a little flurry of activity wrt Snowball’s “apology” to David Gregory.
woo-hoo!
what’s that old Jeff beck song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQsiYdFB3r0
“I’m goin’ down!
Down
down
down down down,
Got my big head out the window
and my feet are on the ground…”
Sounds about right.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 61
Just got home and missed Olbermann tonight.
What are the circumstances on why Cheney is trying to distance himself from Bush?
montag @ 66
I was at Berkeley, but missed that. However, I note that the “neocons” are still very much alive, and seemingly still have the President’s ear, if not his hand. Burying them alive is straight out of “Kill Bill.”
1,363 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Firepup Patriots:
PLEASE,PLEASE, pa-LEEEEEZ don’t feed the trolls, don’t engage ‘em, don’t think about ‘em and surely don’t speak their names. There is obviously an organized attempt to attack thru the backyard today…let the Rottweilers take care of ‘em, they’re the only ones with the stomach for ‘em.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T WASTE YER SHOTS ON THE DRONES!!
punaise @ 68
Yes.
punaise @
59
Before it begins, this appears to be definitive.
Apple Canyon 2 @ 72
Iraq. I think.
scarecrow,
This strikes me as more of the Washington kabuki. Bush gets rid of Rumsfeld and then acts like someone else did it. I would compare it more to a Mafia funeral where the ones that did the late Don in show up to deliver the eulogy.
What I refuse to accept in all this is that Rumsfeld is somehow a tragic figure. I think all those he got killed for no good reason are tragic but not him.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 74
Correct.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 77
cheney distancing himself from bush?
that’s marketing rubbish
bush is discovering what cheney has done to him and is distancing himself from cheney
Marion in Savannah @ 64
Umm, someone else thinks this sudden call for comity and bipartisanship and an end to the bickering is a bit suspicious, not just the people here.
Let’s try to put this in perspective–this “destroy liberals” and Democrats, by extension–has been going on for a long, long time, and I didn’t hear squat from the right wing about being decent and/or respectful of the opposition. Now that their collective tits are in a wringer, that their wrongdoing is likely to be exposed for all to see–in Technicolor and PanaVision–they’re begging for both sides to treat each other nicely.
This is just another set-up–it’s a rather brazen attempt to, first, induce the Dems, now that they’re back in charge, to go easy on the investigations, and, if they don’t, to charge them with doing exactly what the `pugs have been to Democrats for fourteen goddamned years.
Do not forget: these people only care about winning. They do not have any principles upon which to appeal.
Rummy as a tragic figure?? It’s enough to make a cat laugh…
Joe, Ellen’s been in the doghouse around here for quite some time, long before this visit to the White House. Try googling “site:firedoglake.com Ellen Tauscher” and see what comes up.
Perhaps one example can stand for many – a Blue America summary about the election results, from Howie Klein:
About the only thing that made Ellen Tauscher look like a Democrat out here in the Bay area was that Richard Pombo was right next door.
1,363 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Oklahoma Kiddo:
What did KO unearth…I missed it tanight?
KEEP THE FAITH AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER!!
new thread, deja
Oklahoma kiddo,
Thanks!
Trying to distance himself with Bush on Iraq?
Pass the popcorn.
Marion in Savannah @ 51
No self respecting Dem should do a photo-op with Bush, considering he’s pissed all over them since he got in the White House. His re-nomination of Bolton was a big “fuck you” to Dems. Bush knew it wouldn’t pass, but he didn’t care. I don’t think this “bipartisanship” ever existed.
The Rummy farewell reeked of Nixonian pomp and circumstances unbecoming…
Watching ABC Nightly News segue from the over the top ceremony given Rummy to the simple story of Captain Travis Patriquin was inspired journalism.
The Democratic Congress’s first act should be to award Capt. Patriquin the highest honor possible. Here was a man who served his county nobly and honestly and put his own life on the line.
Not a neocon in Washington is worthy of polishing his boots.
Semper fi.
In order to qualify as a tragic figure, doesn’t someone have to exhibit — in addition to the tragic flaw — at least SOME hefty measure of virtue?
Rumsfeld’s not a tragic figure. He’s a pompous, arrogant fool who thinks humility is for suckers. And his so-called policies have been flat-out murderous. His “service” to the nation deserves no “eulogy.”
Mrs. K8 @ 69
Bold added, and you saw it right here at the Lake last Wednesday.
Montag @ 81, maybe you missed the part where I said “on both sides of the political fence.” We certainly can’t heal this wound alone…
AC2, according to Olbermann it came from US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT. It sounds to me like the leak came from Cheney after the Saudi’s demanded he come to Riyadh and explain why
the fuck, the U.S. was making Osama bin Laden a whole lot more popular in Saudi Arabia by helping the Shia in Iraq. I think DeadEye has finally figured out that invading Iraq was a really bad idea and he better start distancing himself from it, even as he fights to keep our troops in there. That’s just a wild guess, however.Mrs. K8 @ 69
yes, that was described here
Lots on Tauscher
Must go watch Keith
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin @ 87
With all due respect, this doesn’t look at all like a “photo op” to me. To me it looks like a puerile bully trying to shush someone.
John Casper @ 10
How ’bout it? The guy is massively unpopular, and these Dems are “let’s do a photo-op with him”. These are the DLC Dems, though, who don’t have any brain capacity whatsoever. This is like Biden saying “we need to help the Republicans back up”, and his wishing Delaware was a slave state.
Marion in Savannah @ 95
Still, she shouldn’t be near the guy.
Peterr and punaise –
Hoo boy, is my face red. I just KNEW I read it somewhere, and that the account impressed me in its significance. Jeez. Aging sucks.
:::slinking off into the sunset:::
Jim Webb chose not do the photo op…
YAY!
John Casper @ 92
John,
Thanks.
Guess I have to buy a copy of the News and World Report.
I really love this site, we can ask questions and many members of the community stand ready to help out.
I know I am in EPU land right now, but just had to make the comment and a thank you.
Marion in Savannah @ 91
No, I didn’t miss that. I consider it part of the right wing’s program. These people have ruined a great deal in this country–all the while having no damned respect for either the opposition or half the country–and now they’re whining about not being treated nicely.
These people have done grievous wrong. They do not deserve to be treated now with respect as the opposition, a respect, I might add, which they haven’t extended when they were in power.
They deserve prosecution and imprisonment and virtual banishment to the weeds of politics. After that happens, they get respect only when they deserve it. Lord knows they haven’t earned it so far.
PeteCO @
21
Well there is this. Although it wasn’t proven
Really going to watch Keith now
BTW new thread
What is it with dubya groping dumpy blondes?
And the whole point of Tauscher SCRUBBING the photo is what is hilarious.
No matter what the tea leaves say about the body language expressed in the photo, there are two aspects about it of interest:
1) First off, she initially found it of value to ADVERTISE the photo on her website, and
2) once her blue dog sentiments are held up for public scrutiny in the press, she finds it necessary to SCRUB the photo from her website.
Those are the 2 points of interest, and noting those 2 incontrovertible facts are in no way “mean” to Ms. Tauscher.
montag –
Hear, hear!
Your comment at #101 captures the heart of the matter of so-called “bipartisanship” perfectly.
Junior high school get out early today?
“The Kiss” gives way to “The Hand on Lap”
Friday night Music.
I hope the blogs keep right on nailing her. She sounds dense and hard-headed, but she’ll get the picture…
Petting *another* woman?
Here is an archive of the photo page from May 15, 2006.
The Bush photo is at the very bottom. There are also some Joe photos which aren’t on the current page (though some of him remain).
And it would be nice if she didn’t have all the photos on one big massive page (though it did make finding the original image much easier).