
(H/T to Attaturk at Rising Hegemon for the aspens pix. No word, as yet, on whether they are quaking…)
There have been some new filings in the Libby case — from both Fitzgerald's team and from Team Libby. Jeralyn (bless her!) has put the PDF's of the filings online at TalkLeft, so you can take a peek at the originals at your leisure. Thanks, Jeralyn! And, as she says:
We can expect Dick Cheney and others to be witnesses and not to claim privilege — at least during the Government's questioning. Cross-examination by Libby could be different. From Fitz's pleading:
The government is not aware of any government witness who is intending to assert a blanket privilege, and the government does not otherwise anticipate any of its witnesses moving to quash or limit trial subpoenas. The government also does not intend to examine any witnesses on any topic for which we expect an assertion of privilege.
I take the use of the word "blanket" to mean the Government witnesses will not object to answering all questions, but might raise a privilege objection as to specific questions by the defense. Fitz writes:
When the Jencks Act materials are turned over, we will alert the defense to the potential privilege problems and request that they advise us whether they intend to examine on any of those topics.
Libby also has subpoenaed a tape recording of an interview between Bob Woodward and Richard Armitage. The tape is in the Government's possession.
The WaPo had an article this morning specifying that Fitz and his team had been mum on whether or not Cheney would be on their witness list. Being mum can be construed one of two ways: (1) you aren't going to use him (for various reasons), but you aren't ready to say so just yet because you are pressuring the defendant; and (2) you are going to use him, but you aren't willing to say so just yet because you are pressuring the defendant. (For more on what the Jencks Act is, see here.)
Sucks to be Scooter.
Emptywheel provides a bit of an early Fitzmas present:
Libby allows for several more reasons for a delay (who knows, he might yet delay my Fitzmas, damnit). But the final bit–which I love–is this. Fitzgerald wants to submit all of Libby's grand jury testimony into evidence. Of this, Libby's team says:
it is clear that large portions of Mr. Libby's testimony bear no relevance to this case and would serve no purpose other than to distract and confuse the jurors during their deliberations. The government has further indicated that it does not presently intend to read or play a tape of the entirety of Mr. Libby's grand jury testimony during trial, but will instead publish to the jury only selected portions of Mr. Libby's testimony during its case-in-chief. The defense hereby requests that the government be required to identify the portions of Mr. Libby's testimony that it intends to publish now…Shorter Libby: I said some really incriminating things to the grand jury. And I provided a whole lot of evidence that my motive for lying was to protect Dick. We need to know if you're going to publish this now, so we can respond accordingly.
As further temptation, Emptywheel provides a link to Exhibit A (PDF). That should make for some mighty fine reading, shouldn't it?
Meanwhile, across the pond, the rationale that so many within the Bush Administration were trying to protect by smearing the Wilsons has just been picked apart:
The Government's case for going to war in Iraq has been torn apart by the publication of previously suppressed evidence that Tony Blair lied over Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.
A devastating attack on Mr Blair's justification for military action by Carne Ross, Britain's key negotiator at the UN, has been kept under wraps until now because he was threatened with being charged with breaching the Official Secrets Act.
In the testimony revealed today Mr Ross, 40, who helped negotiate several UN security resolutions on Iraq, makes it clear that Mr Blair must have known Saddam Hussein possessed no weapons of mass destruction. He said that during his posting to the UN, "at no time did HMG [Her Majesty's Government] assess that Iraq's WMD (or any other capability) posed a threat to the UK or its interests."
Mr Ross revealed it was a commonly held view among British officials dealing with Iraq that any threat by Saddam Hussein had been "effectively contained".
He also reveals that British officials warned US diplomats that bringing down the Iraqi dictator would lead to the chaos the world has since witnessed. "I remember on several occasions the UK team stating this view in terms during our discussions with the US (who agreed)," he said.
"At the same time, we would frequently argue when the US raised the subject, that 'regime change' was inadvisable, primarily on the grounds that Iraq would collapse into chaos."…
One member of the Foreign Affairs committee said: "There was blood on the carpet over this. I think it's pretty clear the Foreign Office used the Official Secrets Act to suppress this evidence, by hanging it like a Sword of Damacles over Mr Ross, but we have called their bluff."
Yesterday, Jack Straw, the Leader of the Commons who was Foreign Secretary during the war – Mr Ross's boss – announced the Commons will have a debate on the possible change of strategy heralded by the Iraqi Study Group report in the new year. (emphasis mine)
Well, that ought to be some interesting viewing as well. How amusing that the British had substantial doubts about the very issues for which Valerie Plame Wilson's work identity and the Brewster-Jennings network were outed by her own President and his toadies. Oh wait, that's not really amusing at all…
Here's a tidbit for some oversight on our own soil: why is it that the nation's top war games genius kicked Rummy's DoD wargames butt in simulation after simulation, but the lessons that ought to have been learned from such defeats were ignored entirely? Here's hoping that Sen. Levin and Rep. Waxman, among others, get to ask a whole lot of questions about that very soon. (H/T to reader Jay for the link on this one.)
In any case, as PowWow said last night, absent the threat from Team Libby to appeal the judge's ruling on the greymail summaries (which may be, more likely, simply building the record for appeal because you have to put stuff like this on the court record in order to preserve that avenue for challenge later), it looks as though Scooter's trial will be starting on time.
On with the show…
Related posts:
- Saddam Interrogation: US Still Trying to Show 9/11 Connection as Late as Mid-2004
- Senator Bond, Whatever Happened to “Show Me”?
- Torture: How a Review Gets to Grand Jury in Five Days or Less
- The SEC Civil Suit Against Countrywide’s Mozilo: Why You Need to Know About “Parallel Proceedings”
- Executive Privilege and the Cheney Interview Documents





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Rootz!
More Rootz!
The Aspens are connected at the Rootz!
Fitz, dammit!
Ooh! A triple!
I’m gonna disagree with Jerrilyn here;
sorry, Cheney has made it clear he doesn’t plan on answering subpoena’s to congress and he will set the precedence here…he is going to press his points, that the executive has more rights then we have thought throughout our 2 century existence
I’m laying odds he refuses to appear
perris at 6 — well, that could be interesting, because then the judge has to decide if he wants to throw Dick Cheney in the slammer for contempt of court. Now there is a set of legal arguments I’d love to watch… *g*
Patrick!!!
Fitz!!
In a sane world, the U.S. would have a parliamentary system of government – but with some additional rules protecting minority oversight of the ruling party. Can you imagine Bush still being in power if there were a no-confidence vote?
He should have been finished on 9.12.2001.
Hmmm, interesting that the Pentagon’s wargame referees decided to refloat ships “sunk” by OpFor attacks, and then change the scenario rules to prohibit unconventional attacks.
The Japanese did much the same thing when they were wargaming Midway and their OpFor did something unexpected. We all know how that worked out for the Japanese.
BC
Perris and Christy, so both of your arguments can be true if
Patrick 4/4 @ 5
Could’ve held you to a single, but I
threw the ball in the standswen’t back to read the post. Call it a fielder’s choice.Can someone tell me the name of the pyschological grandiose disease in which a person thinks he is a former President (Truman)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2006/12/14/AR2006121401683. html
Jack
Christy Hardin Smith @ 7
You and me both, Redd. I think the judge would throw Deadeye in the slam just for sport. Judge Walton strikes me as a very no-nonsense kind of guy.
BC
Christy Hardin Smith @ 6
Article of Impeachment #1.
Next?
Is it conceivable that Fitz wouldn’t call the shooter to the stand?
T- @ 11
So long as the runners advance.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 7
suppose the judge finds contempt, (which he will), issues a warrant
cheney takes it immediately to the supreme court, and thanx to alito and roberts, cheney is vindicated
eriposte’s latest installment on YellowCakeGate –
Uranium from Africa and the Aluminum Tubes – Some Observations on the Relevant Articles by Murray Waas (Pt 3)
Sorry, here is a better link to Bush’s Trumansque fancy..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01683.html
Patrick 4/4 @ 17
Now now, that would be a sacrifice.
ah, so!
There goes every single warhawk’s filthy assertion that “everybody thought Saddam had WMD”!
Kerpow!!!!!!!!!!
(and that includes the dems who did not do their homework and voted for this abomination and affront to our Constitution!)
I’m predicting the Libby Affair will be bigger than the Scopes Trial…
January delight…
Jack
OT President Bush awarded this year’s Medal of Freedom today. The most notorious recent recipients were George Tenet, Paul Bremer, and Tommy Franks for their work in making Iraq the hopeless disaster it is. This year’s group appears to be a mixture of heroes and hacks. First, to the hacks:
Paul Johnson is a conservative Catholic British journalist. He was a Thatcherite and advised her on her anti-union policies. He is a critic of modernity for its lack of moralism. He is a biblical literalist and opposes Darwin and evolution. He defended Richard Nixon for Watergate but condemned Clinton for lying about sex. In addition to Nixon and Thatcher, he also admired the dictators Franco and Pinochet. In other words, he is a fascist and a crank.
William Safire was a well known conservative columnist at the New York Times. He was a speechwriter for Nixon and a critic of the Clintons. He is stridently pro-Israel and drank the Koolaid about the fantasy meeting between Iraqi agents and Mohammed Atta in Prague.
Natan Sharansky is a former Soviet dissident. After his emigration to Israel, he became a far right politician and opposed the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. He authored The Case for Democracy which Bush liked. It echoed the neocon plank of equating democratization in the Middle East to acceptance of Israel.
Norman Mineta was Bush’s Secretary of Transportation and the only Democrat to serve in the Bush Cabinet. He grounded aircraft after 911. He retired earlier this year. He apparently made the list because it was less work than buying a goldwatch.
The Heroes:
Ruth Johnson Colvin founded in 1967 Literacy Volunteers of America which has grown to over 100,000 strong.
Norman C. Francis became President of Xavier University of New Orleans in 1968 and is the longest serving university president in the country. Wiki notes he has been chairman of the board of Educational Testing Service, The Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching and the Southern Education Foundation, and president of the American Association of Higher Education and the United Negro College Fund. More recently, he was named chairman of the Louisiana Recovery Authority.
BB King is a legendary blues guitarist from Memphis.
Joshua Lederberg is a Nobel Prize winning molecular biologist (1958) and a long time government scientific adviser. In 1994, he led a task force investigating Gulf War Syndrome.
David McCullough is the well known American historian and author most recently of “1776”. He was the host of PBS’s Smithsonian World and the American Experience and was a narrator in Ken Burns’s The Civil War.
John “Buck” O’Neil was a player and manager in the Negro Leagues, most notably with the Kansas City Monarchs, and was Major League Baseball’s first African American coach. He died August 5, 2006.
Summed up perfectly, Hugh! Thanks so much.
perris @ 18
suppose the judge finds contempt, (which he will), issues a warrant
cheney takes it immediately to the supreme court, and thanx to alito and roberts, cheney is vindicated
Maybe.
But the funny thing about Supreme Court Justices is that there isn’t any up from a lifetime appointment to the nation’s highest court.
Strip-search Sammy might back Deadeye if he really, truly is an authority worshiper. On the other hand, we know he was an ambitious little
f***er b****** a**h***young man: he said at Princeton that he wanted to be on the USSC. He may merely have kissed the asses necessary to further his ambition. He wouldn’t be the first, (and if he did just do what he had to, won’t be the last). In that case, Deadeye might do well to remember that pay-back can be a real bitch. That could be especially true if Strip-search can hose Cheney without leaving fingerprints (e.g., write a separate assenting opinion).Roberts even more strikes me as someone who isn’t terribly beholden to anyone. Remember, Eisenhower said that his worst mistake as president was appointing Earl Warren to the Court. So I don’t think it’s a slam-dunk that the Supremes would overturn a contempt-of-court citation.
BC
Lovely pic, but those look a whole lot more like birches than aspens to me.
perris @
6
He has newer, stronger powers of (de)classification he can use too.
Nell @ 26
The Larch.
Hugh, don’t you love how the media presents this story? Here is Reuters giving equal weight to BB, Sharansky and Truman (complete with parallels to the unpopular Korean war, you know because McCullough wrote presidential biographies).
BB King and Sharansky: two of my favorite artists. I read his crap often while listening to The Thrill is Gone.
A beautiful day for BushCo bashing.
Ignorant f*cks, anyway.
They didn’t listen to the Brits and they sure as hell didn’t listen to our own intelligence.Come hell or high water, they were bent on going to Iraq.
And for one awe inspiring moment do they step back and see the irreversible damage done?Oh hell no.Just keep throwing troops into the meat grinder till they are out of office and then it’s your problem, gents.
Who is going to finally put a stop to this insanity? Who?
Fitzy has had sand thrown in his eyes so he couldn’t see what happened. He knows now what
happened and the whole world will see it
in January…
How come only one writer Matt A from AP is
covering this story?
Jack
Is it popular opinion here that the case essentially centers on the Niger forgeries, Ledeen’s circle of friends and Franklin/AIPAC rather than perjury?
angie @
25
Seconded.
damning stuff from the article linked above:
this makes me enraged!
yoo-hoo, America– are you paying attention yet?
I want Judge Reggie to throw BigTime in the slammer for contempt on the same day Bush decides to abdicate and flee to Paraguay. Voila, President Pelosi!
Christy, thanks for a great Fitz fix.
TeddySanFran @ 35
Seconded.
Christy,
I have to admit that I have not read much about, nor do I understand, the quaking aspen reference with regard to scooter.
However, I have always loved the idea of Pango, the largest organism in the world that just happens to be Utah’s intertwined quaking aspen.
Remember that Herbert “Pandora” series that he wrote with Bill Ransom (and I think his kid and Ransom tried to carry it on after he died), about the sentient kelp.
Wouldn’t it be interesting if quaking aspen was cogitating.
Anyway, what does scooter, specifically, have to do with quaking aspen?
So we’re back to Fitz either pressuring the defendant or pressuring the defendant? That’s a pity . . .
I’m convinced (wag) that W is going BIG & going LONG — and that he knows he can’t say so before Xmas. Thus his delay, pretending to listen to his military (who oppose more troops to Iraq, it seems) to his Dad’s friends, to his NeoCon enablers, to Laura and to Barney.
Could this UK news bring down the Blair government?
…oh, and
Troops
Home
NOW
OT: (sorry)
For Sweet, sweet Punaise.
Bargain Countertenor @ 26
Maybe.
But the funny thing about Supreme Court Justices is that there isn’t any up from a lifetime appointment to the nation’s highest court.
Strip-search Sammy might back Deadeye if he really, truly is an authority worshiper. On the other hand, we know he was an ambitious little
f***er b****** a**h***young man: he said at Princeton that he wanted to be on the USSC. He may merely have kissed the asses necessary to further his ambition. He wouldn’t be the first, (and if he did just do what he had to, won’t be the last). In that case, Deadeye might do well to remember that pay-back can be a real bitch. That could be especially true if Strip-search can hose Cheney without leaving fingerprints (e.g., write a separate assenting opinion).Roberts even more strikes me as someone who isn’t terribly beholden to anyone. Remember, Eisenhower said that his worst mistake as president was appointing Earl Warren to the Court. So I don’t think it’s a slam-dunk that the Supremes would overturn a contempt-of-court citation.
BC
I have some hope along these lines BECUASE we are no a majority, we will PREVENT electronic voting and it becomes quite likely a democrat will take the office in the next election
for THAT and that alone, there is a chance alito and roberts MIGHT do what is neccessary to restrict the powers of the executive
I’m still laying odds cheney refuses to appear..then alito or roberts will contact him if they intend on ruling against his point of view, if given that warning he will obviously appear under subpeona
John Casper @ 33
Me too; that was helpful.
Below is from a really cheesy letter that Scooter wrote Judy when she was in jail.
IIRC, most plameologists assume it was an extraordinarily clumsy attempt to give Judy instructions about how to testify.
Seeing the (Aspen) Trees that Make Up the Forest
I liked Scooter’s writing better when he wrote about the bear.
Sounds like January is going to get vewy vewy intewesting.
Hoping now that I’m on my new Mac and Safari that I can edit. (Yep, I can!) Loving this machine…
my gawd;
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/…..best-ever/
cheney has the nerve to say dumbsfeld is the finest defense secretary who ever served
talk about morons, the most moronic policies in this countries history designed by these two…and it’s a fuhriggin mutual admiration society
Bay State Librul @ 32
Because there are so many stories about Nancy Pelosi’s skincare regimen that need to be written.
It is odd that Carol Leonnig of the WaPo hasn’t been on the Libby beat for awhile. She was writing most of their Scoots articles. At any rate, we will see the press horde re-converge upon this story soon enough. Murray Waas, yay.
perris @ 42
I have some hope along these lines BECUASE we are now a majority, we will PREVENT electronic voting and it becomes quite likely a democrat will take the office in the next election
for THAT and that alone, there is a chance alito and roberts MIGHT do what is neccessary to restrict the powers of the executive
I’m still laying odds cheney refuses to appear..then alito or roberts will contact him if they intend on ruling against his point of view, if given that warning he will obviously appear under subpeona
Oooh, ex parte communication. Naughty, naughty … and if caught, that could lead to an impeachment (of the judge). If they’re going to rule against Deadeye, they’ll tell him before he files, to avoid the whole ex parte problem.
Given:
(1) the precedent set by the USSC in Flowers v. Clinton (the President cannot avoid testifying in a civil case); and,
(2) the VP has fewer Constitutional protections than the President,
I think the Court will have to find for Government (dear God, I love irony) and rule that Cheney has to testify.
BC
John Casper @ 44
Ahhhh, I get it now. Well then Pango is a good analogy because it is, in its entirety, a clone. Wouldn’t all the good little soldiers be better designed as clones…but wait, someone has done that story already, too.
Thanks, JC.
Oh, and off topic, I’ve been meaning to ask a studious, scholarly type who keeps up with the religious studies: who is this Timothy Freke character and is he attempting to style himself as a modern day Joseph Campbell?
shortened version of a previous comment:
Scooter’s lament / sing along –
“The old greymail just ain’t what it used to be”
Sooooooo…for the laymen among us–do you think Fitz might be trying to pressure the defendant?
Just asking.
jacqrat – thanks for the Loony Toons! I’ll bugsmark it for later enjoyment…
2 questions:
1. This “privilege” of de-classifying stuff sounds like Dick is granting himself a license to commit treason with impunity. Is there no check and balance to this?
2. Fitzy’s been fighting to narrow the testimoney to the four corners of the perjury indictment. How then can he now justify widening the testimoney to ALL of Libby’s Grand Jury testimony?
oxide @ 54
cheney has claimed the president gave him the right to classify and declassify…he claims is in one of the executive orders, I believe it’s a leap
I do not believe Bush has acknowledged same
Bargain Countertenor @ 49
Oooh, ex parte communication. Naughty, naughty … and if caught, that could lead to an impeachment (of the judge). If they’re going to rule against Deadeye, they’ll tell him before he files, to avoid the whole ex parte problem.
Given:
(1) the precedent set by the USSC in Flowers v. Clinton (the President cannot avoid testifying in a civil case); and,
(2) the VP has fewer Constitutional protections than the President,
I think the Court will have to find for Government (dear God, I love irony) and rule that Cheney has to testify.
BC
Except for that one shotgun incident, Cheney is slick.
IF he testifies (Big IF), he won’t be easy to crack and he won’t remember a la Reagan. For whatever reason, everybody is intimidated by Dick Cheney.
OT
Weather is goofy around here ,again.
yesterday, windstorm. Today, hailing like crazy and now snow!.
parte likes there’s no tomorrow…
Patrick 4/4 @
9
Indeed! Could we please just impeach this maroon and Cheney too and not necessarily in that order. And, yeah, I’m wearing my new Pelosi for President 2007 longsleeve tee as I head out on errands. ***g***
punaise @ 58
Parte like it’s 1999…you know, back when the grownups weren’t in charge yet.
hackworth @ 56
Bargain Countertenor @
49
Oooh, ex parte communication. Naughty, naughty … and if caught, that could lead to an impeachment (of the judge). If they’re going to rule against Deadeye, they’ll tell him before he files, to avoid the whole ex parte problem.
Given:
(1) the precedent set by the USSC in Flowers v. Clinton (the President cannot avoid testifying in a civil case); and,
(2) the VP has fewer Constitutional protections than the President,
I think the Court will have to find for Government (dear God, I love irony) and rule that Cheney has to testify.
BC
While we are on the subject of judicial misconduct, it might be instructive to peruse the circumstances that led to the resignation of Abe Fortas from the Supreme Court:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_Fortas
what is the process of impeaching a scj?
Jane has a new piece upstairs.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..e/#respond
John Dean speaks:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1215-25.htm
perris @ 63
Same as impeaching anyone else, like say a President or VP: charges voted on by the House of Representatives, and a trial in the Senate.
perris @
64
It is essentially the same process used to impeach any other Federal official. Please recall that impeachment is tantamount to an indictment, should a vote to impeach someone for high crimes and misdemeanors pass the House of Representatives. Next, as has been discussed in previous threads, a trial in the Senate would follow, with conviction secured by a two thirds majority vote.
For additional information, please consult this reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I…..ted_States
I miss our thermometer.
Cheney is smart and very tough (witness the eternal snarl on his face) and remember his v.p. debate with John Edwards in 2004.
But, I agree Alito and Roberts might not feel at all beholden, now that they have their robes.
The crap is getting soooo deep it’ll be a miracle if Fitzie doesn’t get a conviction going away and if the evidence taken in that case doesn’t incriminate the entire White House.
The news from Britain oughta be on tonight’s t.v. news. I wonder if they have the guts to ignore it. It’s enough to bring the whole ball of was apart if the Rich allow it. Remember, the Constitution might not be a ’suicide pact’, but the Rich can turn our system into a living Hell if it suits them.
Peterr @ 66
With the Chief Justice presiding over the Senate. The impeachment of a SCJ would be a really uncomfortable affair for the Chief.
BC
MarkH @ 69
The monied class ought to want to be careful about how the rule of law applies. It’s in their interest to maintain the status quo ante, and very pissed-off peones usually want the status quo ante changed. And changed in ways unfavorable to large collections of capital.
cf: French Revolution, Russian Revolution.
BC
Hugh 24 Paul Johnson was found to have paid prostitutes to whip his bare arse .I think he found some biblical justification for this.
Oxide, I agree with your point #2. If Cheney appears for the prosecution, he will only be questioned about the cover-up, not about the underlying crime, and Fitzgerald himself has only wanted material to be admitted in court re the cover-up. I can’t see him bringing in Cheney’s whole testimony and what Cheney may have said re the outing of Valerie Plame.
Bay State Librul @ 32 – Excellent question.
Even Matt Apuzzo’s story for the AP about these quite-clear Status Report filings yesterday was so poorly written and mostly beside the point, that I could not make out what activity or development he was actually attempting to report, until after I’d seen the filings myself… [Toni Locy - who he replaced on this case for the Associated Press - was doing a much better job of covering the filings and hearings, I thought. I also recall one very good article by Pete Yost of the AP about a complicated filing in the case.]
One other corporate media person who has been more or less covering the Libby beat, as a sidelight — though he’s not a reporter, but a producer – is Joel Seidman of NBC, who has probably done the most competent job overall, of describing the court filings, when he does report. And Josh Gerstein of the New York Sun when he covers the occasional filing, does a good job.
In general though, the corporate media seems to be downright hostile to this prosecution, which so intimately intertwines with their own profession. I think we’re probably going to need the coverage of bloggers like Jane and Christy to really get a clear picture of what actually happens in that courtroom, and to cut through the ongoing blackout and spin that otherwise pass for the corporate media’s coverage of the case against Scooter Libby.
Reiteration for the record: The current trial start date is January 16, 2007 (jury selection first, followed by the trial).
I fear that the Libby trial will be continued. I am guessing it will be continued to a date in May, 2007.
I certainly have no inside knowledge. All I have is a familiarity with courts in general. One continuance is usually allowed, if requested. There is scant “down side” to the defense in requesting a continuance, unless they anticipate raising some speedy trial issue in the event of conviction. (And that’s unlikely, given the speed of the federal system.) About the only other down side–for the defense–in their asking for a continuance, would be that when you continue, it gives your opponent more time to perfect his case.