Comments on: Gun Crazy http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:29:31 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Tim http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418883 Tim Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:33:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418883 <p>Do you guys actually believe this non-sense? Do you think the staff of NARAL would continue to work there if their only purpose was to raise cash? If it weren’t for NARAL, do any of you think women would have the right to choose? And why are you talking about gun rights? Why should NARAL even look at those votes?</p> Do you guys actually believe this non-sense? Do you think the staff of NARAL would continue to work there if their only purpose was to raise cash? If it weren’t for NARAL, do any of you think women would have the right to choose? And why are you talking about gun rights? Why should NARAL even look at those votes?

]]> By: Gina http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418513 Gina Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:39:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418513 <p>Jane, will you be posting the comments that don’t agree with your opinion on HuffPo or will you continue censoring them? And please don’t lie by saying it’s not up to you what comments are posted. We have confirmation from Arianna herself that it’s up to the blogger.</p> Jane, will you be posting the comments that don’t agree with your opinion on HuffPo or will you continue censoring them? And please don’t lie by saying it’s not up to you what comments are posted. We have confirmation from Arianna herself that it’s up to the blogger.

]]> By: Marshall http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418298 Marshall Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:57:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418298 <p>The NRA was overtaken by fascists what, 30 plus years ago. The Southern Baptist Convention was overtaken by fascists 25 years ago (who promptly trashed 400 years worth of theological tradition, not that you would know squat about it from reading the press). Many of the people in these takeovers were the same, and they shortly started in on and gained control of the the Republican party. In 2000, they gained control of the country, and they didn’t intend to give it back. (One resaon why I have been worried about our elections is that SBC elections have been meaningless farces since the late 1980’s.)</p> <p>Part of making our country healthy again will have to be to put sane people back in control of the SBC and the NRA and a host of similar organizations. How we do this is beyond me, but it’s going to have to be done.</p> The NRA was overtaken by fascists what, 30 plus years ago. The Southern Baptist Convention was overtaken by fascists 25 years ago (who promptly trashed 400 years worth of theological tradition, not that you would know squat about it from reading the press). Many of the people in these takeovers were the same, and they shortly started in on and gained control of the the Republican party. In 2000, they gained control of the country, and they didn’t intend to give it back. (One resaon why I have been worried about our elections is that SBC elections have been meaningless farces since the late 1980’s.)

Part of making our country healthy again will have to be to put sane people back in control of the SBC and the NRA and a host of similar organizations. How we do this is beyond me, but it’s going to have to be done.

]]> By: Oregon04Woman http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418220 Oregon04Woman Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:07:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418220 <p>A word about the Medicaid provider issue: Believe it or not, the feds are liable to sanction a state that doesn’t have sufficient family planning providers for its Medicaid recipients. Family planning is funded 90% by federal funds and recipients are supposed to have “freedom of choice” in their choice of providers. States have been forbidden from requiring recipients to go to particular providers for family planning services, even if it would save $. If PP is concerned, I think they need some better advice. The 501(c)(3) strategy mentioned by the poster @66 is totally doable.</p> <p>As far as NARAL goes, this kind of thing is par for the course for them. I haven’t given them anything since 1992 because of their stubborn and short-sighted insistence on giving Bob Packwood (still known here in Oregon as the dirty old man) their wholehearted support, regardless of the fact that his 1994 Democratic opponent was as pro-choice as he was.</p> A word about the Medicaid provider issue: Believe it or not, the feds are liable to sanction a state that doesn’t have sufficient family planning providers for its Medicaid recipients. Family planning is funded 90% by federal funds and recipients are supposed to have “freedom of choice” in their choice of providers. States have been forbidden from requiring recipients to go to particular providers for family planning services, even if it would save $. If PP is concerned, I think they need some better advice. The 501(c)(3) strategy mentioned by the poster @66 is totally doable.

As far as NARAL goes, this kind of thing is par for the course for them. I haven’t given them anything since 1992 because of their stubborn and short-sighted insistence on giving Bob Packwood (still known here in Oregon as the dirty old man) their wholehearted support, regardless of the fact that his 1994 Democratic opponent was as pro-choice as he was.

]]> By: bronco214 http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418201 bronco214 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:49:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418201 <p>Jane,<br /> Saw you on the tube this a.m. I hope this doesn’t come off as sexist but, you sure are the whole package- intelligent and good looking. Your sig other is a lucky person.</p> Jane,
Saw you on the tube this a.m. I hope this doesn’t come off as sexist but, you sure are the whole package- intelligent and good looking. Your sig other is a lucky person.

]]> By: LindyH http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418057 LindyH Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:59:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418057 <p>or maybe not. sigh.</p> or maybe not. sigh.

]]> By: LindyH http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418054 LindyH Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:56:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418054 <p>Sally Patterson chairs the board of NARAL.</p> Sally Patterson chairs the board of NARAL.

]]> By: LindyH http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418047 LindyH Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:54:25 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418047 <p><a href="#comment-418018"><em>Jane Hamsher @ 55</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-418014"><em>JDM @<br /> 51 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Who’s on NARAL’s board? Why are they tolerating Keenan?</p></blockquote> <p>Good question. Anyone have a list, please send it to me. I hear they’re pissed.</p></blockquote> <p>Not a list, but a name: Richard A. Gross is currently the Manager of the BW Realty Advisors LLC in Washington, D. C. He is a board member of NARAL Pro-Choice America and NARAL Pro-Choice America Foundation. He was a private practice attorney…</p> Jane Hamsher @ 55

JDM @
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Who’s on NARAL’s board? Why are they tolerating Keenan?

Good question. Anyone have a list, please send it to me. I hear they’re pissed.

Not a list, but a name: Richard A. Gross is currently the Manager of the BW Realty Advisors LLC in Washington, D. C. He is a board member of NARAL Pro-Choice America and NARAL Pro-Choice America Foundation. He was a private practice attorney…

]]> By: Peterr http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418048 Peterr Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:54:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418048 <p><a href="#comment-418040"><em>Rayne @ 70</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Peterr, thanks for the list; the one caveat I have is that CRC is a TownHall.com Partner, suggesting funding by Heritage Foundaton.</p></blockquote> <p>Duly noted. Given that this is part of a general database, with links to pdfs of IRS 990s, I’m guessing that it is safe. Out of date perhaps, but not screwy. </p> <p>I’d bet that Dru’s list is more current, but the names here were part of NARAL in the past.</p> Rayne @ 70

Peterr, thanks for the list; the one caveat I have is that CRC is a TownHall.com Partner, suggesting funding by Heritage Foundaton.

Duly noted. Given that this is part of a general database, with links to pdfs of IRS 990s, I’m guessing that it is safe. Out of date perhaps, but not screwy.

I’d bet that Dru’s list is more current, but the names here were part of NARAL in the past.

]]> By: JDM http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418045 JDM Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:50:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/13/gun-crazy/#comment-418045 <p>Missed the earlier comments and Jane’s responses. Thanks to all.</p> Missed the earlier comments and Jane’s responses. Thanks to all.

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