Comments on: Political Kabuki http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:24:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412892 SouthernDragon Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:00:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412892 <p>The ISG report served one purpose. In it the group calls for Iraq to privatize its oil and ensure that US oil companies get the lion’s share of the money. Bremer wanted to do the same thing. IMHO the report is just an attempt to legitimize the Bush administration’s true reason for invading in the first place - control over Iraqi oil. It’s as if they just paraphrased some of the passages of PNAC’s “Rebuilding America’s Defenses.” Baker may not be a neocon <em>per se</em> but he’s an oil industry mouthpiece and their goals are definitely symbiotic. They don’t understand that the Iraqi resistance is not going to let that happen, regardless of who the US sets up as a puppet government. They thought it would all go as smoothly as installing the Shah in Iran, which was all about oil. Supporting the Shi’a over the Sunni will ensure that this non-civil war will go on indefinitely, using US troops to help with the killing. Just because these clowns are rich doesn’t mean they’re smart. We just have to follow the money. Each and every decision made by The Decider is about money. Period. </p> <p>Never give up.</p> The ISG report served one purpose. In it the group calls for Iraq to privatize its oil and ensure that US oil companies get the lion’s share of the money. Bremer wanted to do the same thing. IMHO the report is just an attempt to legitimize the Bush administration’s true reason for invading in the first place – control over Iraqi oil. It’s as if they just paraphrased some of the passages of PNAC’s “Rebuilding America’s Defenses.” Baker may not be a neocon per se but he’s an oil industry mouthpiece and their goals are definitely symbiotic. They don’t understand that the Iraqi resistance is not going to let that happen, regardless of who the US sets up as a puppet government. They thought it would all go as smoothly as installing the Shah in Iran, which was all about oil. Supporting the Shi’a over the Sunni will ensure that this non-civil war will go on indefinitely, using US troops to help with the killing. Just because these clowns are rich doesn’t mean they’re smart. We just have to follow the money. Each and every decision made by The Decider is about money. Period.

Never give up.

]]> By: Zoot http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412741 Zoot Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:15:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412741 <p>“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.” ~Groucho Marx</p> “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.” ~Groucho Marx

]]> By: SeriousKidding http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412693 SeriousKidding Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:12:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412693 <p>How many innocent trees gave their lives to print the ISG Report just so Bush and Cheney could ignore it?</p> <p><a href="http://www.seriouskidding.com">http://www.seriouskidding.com</a></p> How many innocent trees gave their lives to print the ISG Report just so Bush and Cheney could ignore it?

http://www.seriouskidding.com

]]> By: rmpeditor http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412674 rmpeditor Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:21:43 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412674 <p>Note the “report” never says “complete withdrawa,l” as in permanent bases we have no intention of leaving. Also, for a more basic take on all this I suggest reading the following:</p> <p><a href="http://pierretristam.com/Bobst/Archives/CN120706.htm#1">http://pierretristam.com/Bobst.....0706.htm#1</a></p> Note the “report” never says “complete withdrawa,l” as in permanent bases we have no intention of leaving. Also, for a more basic take on all this I suggest reading the following:

http://pierretristam.com/Bobst…..0706.htm#1

]]> By: Gentleman Jim http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412600 Gentleman Jim Sat, 09 Dec 2006 06:20:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412600 <p><b>Bushido</b>: meaning “Way of the warrior”, is a Japanese code of conduct and a way of life, loosely analogous to the European concept of chivalry.</p> <p>Wow, I never dreamt the Japanese had a Grand Concept of Honor named after an American Crime Family.</p> <p>James “The Fixer” Baker, in his capacity as a thinly veiled mob lawyer, unveiled the ISG as a ‘Face-Saving’ manuever to paper over and pave the way for a Graceful Resignation of the Field of Battle.</p> <p>This is Not Cut an Run, we quit, you Can’t fire U.S.</p> <p>Golly Miss Molly, it looks like the Rethuglicans want the Demos to help sweep up after the Elephant once again, and bring a Really Big Pooper Scooper.</p> <p>The ISG is in place to start to shift the blame in time for 2008. The Demo candidate will be sandbagged as ‘Losing Iraq’ as sure as Truman was blamed for “Losing China” in the 50’s.</p> <p>Let the Games begin again.</p> Bushido: meaning “Way of the warrior”, is a Japanese code of conduct and a way of life, loosely analogous to the European concept of chivalry.

Wow, I never dreamt the Japanese had a Grand Concept of Honor named after an American Crime Family.

James “The Fixer” Baker, in his capacity as a thinly veiled mob lawyer, unveiled the ISG as a ‘Face-Saving’ manuever to paper over and pave the way for a Graceful Resignation of the Field of Battle.

This is Not Cut an Run, we quit, you Can’t fire U.S.

Golly Miss Molly, it looks like the Rethuglicans want the Demos to help sweep up after the Elephant once again, and bring a Really Big Pooper Scooper.

The ISG is in place to start to shift the blame in time for 2008. The Demo candidate will be sandbagged as ‘Losing Iraq’ as sure as Truman was blamed for “Losing China” in the 50’s.

Let the Games begin again.

]]> By: kemo http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412578 kemo Sat, 09 Dec 2006 05:57:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412578 <p><a href="#comment-412433"><em>MargaretPOA @ 5 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>No. It wasn’t worth the hoopla and Bush and the Israelis have already summarily rejected the two most important and salient parts of the plan in my opinion.</p></blockquote> <p>I am with you here. The neocons have already slammed Baker’s effort. Olmert, our only ally in the region, says “hey, we never had a problem with Saddam, don’t look at us…”. That means we have nothing to offer Syria or the Iran in negotiations for their support to lend stability to the region.</p> <p>Note that the blue dog Dems went to the WH this week too. I expect they got their talking points ready to go Monday: “We won’t talk to our enemies yadda yadda yadda, Israel has a right to defend herself blah blah blah…</p> <p>There is to come a concerted effort to blunt the ISG…</p> MargaretPOA @ 5

No. It wasn’t worth the hoopla and Bush and the Israelis have already summarily rejected the two most important and salient parts of the plan in my opinion.

I am with you here. The neocons have already slammed Baker’s effort. Olmert, our only ally in the region, says “hey, we never had a problem with Saddam, don’t look at us…”. That means we have nothing to offer Syria or the Iran in negotiations for their support to lend stability to the region.

Note that the blue dog Dems went to the WH this week too. I expect they got their talking points ready to go Monday: “We won’t talk to our enemies yadda yadda yadda, Israel has a right to defend herself blah blah blah…

There is to come a concerted effort to blunt the ISG…

]]> By: Brian Boru http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412536 Brian Boru Sat, 09 Dec 2006 05:15:52 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412536 <p>Shorter ISG report: lipstick meet pig.</p> Shorter ISG report: lipstick meet pig.

]]> By: SusanD http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412521 SusanD Sat, 09 Dec 2006 05:06:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412521 <p>new thread</p> new thread

]]> By: brkily http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412519 brkily Sat, 09 Dec 2006 05:05:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412519 <p>Reactions to the long-awaited Iraq Study Group report<br /> 12/8/2006 6:30:00 PM GMT </p> <p><a href="http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=12695">Elected officials, former military, peace activists and the public react in differing ways </a><br /> By: Kevin Zeese and Liz Persson</p> <p>reader comment:<br /> “Let me tel u what millions of Iraqis died for and Bushblair regime troops are dying for. The Georgetony Iraq Study Group recommended for Iraq to privatize all its oil industry open up to international companies. The report calls for turning it over to private foreign corporate hands, a US advisor to ensure that a new national oil law is passed in Iraq to make all of this possible and that the constitution of Iraq is amended to ensure that the central government gains control of Iraq’s oil revenues. I would argue, extending the war in Iraq to ensure that US oil companies get what the Bush administration went in there for: control and greater access to Iraq’s oil, author of The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time, Antonia Juhasz. James Baker, one of the leaders of this panel has his own private interest. His family is heavily invested in the oil industry, and also Baker Botts, his law firm, is one of the key law firms representing oil companies across the United States and their activities in the Middle East. And Lawrence Eagleburger was president of Kissinger Associates, which was one of the leading multinational advising firms for advising US companies who were trying to get contracts with Saddam Hussein and get work in Iraq. And the report also says that the US government will withhold military, economic and political support of the Iraqi government, unless the Georgetony’s Iraq Study Group recommendations are met, democracynow. God cees and knows all. Peace to the world.”</p> Reactions to the long-awaited Iraq Study Group report
12/8/2006 6:30:00 PM GMT

Elected officials, former military, peace activists and the public react in differing ways
By: Kevin Zeese and Liz Persson

reader comment:
“Let me tel u what millions of Iraqis died for and Bushblair regime troops are dying for. The Georgetony Iraq Study Group recommended for Iraq to privatize all its oil industry open up to international companies. The report calls for turning it over to private foreign corporate hands, a US advisor to ensure that a new national oil law is passed in Iraq to make all of this possible and that the constitution of Iraq is amended to ensure that the central government gains control of Iraq’s oil revenues. I would argue, extending the war in Iraq to ensure that US oil companies get what the Bush administration went in there for: control and greater access to Iraq’s oil, author of The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time, Antonia Juhasz. James Baker, one of the leaders of this panel has his own private interest. His family is heavily invested in the oil industry, and also Baker Botts, his law firm, is one of the key law firms representing oil companies across the United States and their activities in the Middle East. And Lawrence Eagleburger was president of Kissinger Associates, which was one of the leading multinational advising firms for advising US companies who were trying to get contracts with Saddam Hussein and get work in Iraq. And the report also says that the US government will withhold military, economic and political support of the Iraqi government, unless the Georgetony’s Iraq Study Group recommendations are met, democracynow. God cees and knows all. Peace to the world.”

]]> By: Rayne http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412517 Rayne Sat, 09 Dec 2006 05:04:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/08/political-kabuki/#comment-412517 <p>Hugh 35 — oh, I think the weapon has just been uncovered that we can use on Boehner.</p> <p>His failure to take any real and constructive action about the problems uncovered during research and preparation of the Foley report is his swan song.</p> <p>The investigations into Abramoff’s relations with members of Congress isn’t done, either; if memory serves, I thought that as many as 65 representatives have been implicated. Boehner’s exposed because of tribal PAC monies. Would not be shocked at all to see more come out of this that does not help Boehner.</p> <p>And speaking of the 65 representatives, I think we could see more movement to the left in veto-proof numbers to save their butts if investigations turn up the heat on their backsides.</p> Hugh 35 — oh, I think the weapon has just been uncovered that we can use on Boehner.

His failure to take any real and constructive action about the problems uncovered during research and preparation of the Foley report is his swan song.

The investigations into Abramoff’s relations with members of Congress isn’t done, either; if memory serves, I thought that as many as 65 representatives have been implicated. Boehner’s exposed because of tribal PAC monies. Would not be shocked at all to see more come out of this that does not help Boehner.

And speaking of the 65 representatives, I think we could see more movement to the left in veto-proof numbers to save their butts if investigations turn up the heat on their backsides.

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