
This coverage sponsored by the SEIU.
Tonight the SEIU nurses will hold a candlelight vigil. Tomorrow they go back to work. However, the people who locked them out are still going strong, ready to live and fight against unions another day. That's only one reason it's so good to say goodbye to the 109th Congress and hello to Pelosi's 110th. What comes along with it is a 5 day workweek. Republicans are in shock. But Democrats are going to fight for the middle class, baby, which means unions are back and The Employee Free Choice Act is in. We're blogging about it, with a terrific Kos diary, Tula's amazing input, Sirota, with something I wrote this morning here, with much more to come, including Senator-elect Sherrod Brown sending a message to BigPharma.
But the SEIU nurses in both Desert Spring and Valley Hospitals, both of which are run by Universal Health Services, will tell you their fight, at its heart, isn't about unions. It's not even about money. It's about the patients they serve and providing the best patient care possible. There's just one catch. Universal Health Services in Las Vegas, run by David Bussone, which is a microcosm of the entire U.S. healthcare industry, has decided to make it about the union. This interview with Bussone is very telling and foreshadows the troubles to come.
Enter the union-busters.
Enter Brent Yessin and Brent Yessin & Associates. He's also a former Vice President of the Burke Group, an anti-union firm. People at these anti-union firms are sometimes called "persuaders." Quaint, isn't it. In California, these "persuaders" have been used repeatedly to undermine the California Nurses Association. In California, nurses are made to attend mandatory meetings where they are lectured by these "persuaders," whose fees range from $118 - $210 per hour, with expenses going into the millions for these anti-union campaigns. Mr. Yessin has earned quite a reputation. He's a master of anti-union campaigns.
It had been brewing for years. Notorious union-busting consultant Brent Yessin was hired by VHS in January 2006, when the two hospitals' contracts with nurses gave up, but the union says agreements were made in the summer of 2005 to bring him in. In September of that year, 39 nurses at Desert Springs made news when they were suspended from work for wearing SEIU pins on their uniforms. In 2003, Desert Springs tried without success to rid themselves of the union, and in 1999, when SEIU was defying the medical field's historical resistance to unions, they and Valley led an unsuccessful charge to keep unions out of hospitals.
Caring for the Caretakers
Nurses and hospitals continue the war over union demands
I've learned a lot about David Bussone's Universal Health Services in a very short period of time. Brent Yessin comes as part of the package. They're fighting very hard and mean, but what they didn't count on was public support and the progressive blogosphere getting in the act. As one person on the political end of the fight told me this week, but who didn't want to be identified: UHS miscalculated. They're image has suffered a lot. But when the blogosphere got involved, that's when everyone knew this was going to be big. Assembly speaker-elect Buckley and Commissioner Rory Reid (interviews with them here), among others, got UHS back to the bargaining table with SEIU, with two 30-day periods now in place to get a contract signed.
Now Bussone and UHS has a real image problem, not just with nurses and patients, but with the public at large.
Unlike Bussone's Universal Health Services, Catholic Health Care West adopted specific nurse-to-patient ratios, which are enforceable through nurse contract; banned mandatory overtime; and ensured that nurses won't be floated to stations beyond her/his expertise.
Unlike Bussone's UHS, Hospital Corporation of America (Sunrise Hospital) also agreed to improve staffing levels by mid-contract, while also banning mandatory overtime, with "true partner floating."
Only Bussone's Universal Health Services refuses to bring Desert Springs and Valley hospitals up to standards already adopted by the other hospitals in Las Vegas. According to the SEIU, UHS has refused to make any guaranteed staffing improvements. To give you an idea of how understaffed UHS is regarding nursing care, they would have to hire 198 nurses to reach an equivalent staffing to Catholic Health Care West. UHS has also refused to ban mandatory overtime. In addition, UHS, through a contract loophole, allows nurses to float across the hospital, "including areas where they lack expertise," according to SEIU.
Feel safer, Las Vegas?
Well, I've got a news flash for you. This isn't just about Las Vegas. It's about what could happen across this country to U.S. healthcare once we try to make it accessible to everyone. If hospital conglomerates aren't made to understand that profit is important, but not nearly as important as patient care, we could all be looking at a situation like Las Vegas in every small town and big city across this country.
Brent Yessin came in to Las Vegas to help David Bussone keep control over UHS facilities. Evidently, Yessin and Bussone think they know best. Are they nurses? Do Yessin and Bussone know what it takes to care for patients? It's their business, but to SEIU nurses locked out in Las Vegas, it is their calling, their passion. What Yessin is doing for Bussone is intended to keep unions out of UHS hospitals, or break the unions when they do. Their threats are powerful and they back them up with actions. Don't like UHS policy? Tough. You're fired.
Special procedures nurse Christina Schofield, one of SEIU's nurses recently fired, says that Yessin tries to intimidate and oppress the nursing staff. She says:
"Six to eight months ago, the union-busters came in and started holding these mandatory meetings where they pulled nurses away from their patients and filled them with anti-union propaganda. Then they'd send around petitions for the nurses to deny allegiance to the union. Five of them in two weeks, each two hours long. They never let me attend them because I kept asking: ‘Who's taking care of the patients during these meetings?'
"Then they started with the one-on-one meetings, where they for instance would pull an international nurse inside, huddle around her, and ask her: ‘You like your visa? You want to keep it, don't you?'"
Schofield, who says she had never had a write-up prior to the "countless" formal reprimands she received this year ("for things like retrieving a Diet Coke from the ER"), says that management made an extra effort to suppress union literature, and posted their own propaganda every day with yellow fliers on the walls. Moreover, she says, she had to get used to security following her out on her breaks.
"The nurses are terrified now," she says. "They know this regime's threats are not empty, because, well, they fired me, didn't they?"
Caring for the Caretakers
Nurses and hospitals continue the war over union demands
One of the most important issues across this country is healthcare. Making healthcare accessible and affordable for every American, especially children, regardless of ability to pay is one of our priorities. But within this argument brews a much missed element of the story. What kind of healthcare will we receive for this universal coverage? If one nurse has to take care of 10 very sick patients, what kind of care do we each individually receive?
David Bussone's UHS lock-out of SEIU nurses in Las Vegas is just one part of this story; a microcosm of what could happen on a much larger scale as we move forward into the healthcare debate in this country. We had better pay attention to this fight and make certain the outcome is something we can all live with, because our lives could quite literally depend on it.
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Hi Taylor, now to read.
Taylor!
- and congrats bustedknuckles on the zed!
These people make me want to scream.
There is nothing, NOTHING lower than a union buster.
I hope Ronald Reagan is rotting in hell for busting the flight controllers union and opening this can of worms.
The most fitting reprisal to these scumbags would be to have to be put in a bed at one of these hospitals.
Hand the sonsabitches the red call button and then let them rot.
Taylor, thanks for helping to focus attention on these thugs. If the mafia were using these tactics, we’d see racketeering charges so fast.
I hope some ambitious DA reads this, knows her Kevin Phillips, and knows the next thirty-year electoral cycle will be populist - and then she calls her colleagues to research the first RICO filing for crimes against nurses in organized labor.
(Oh, and I hope Ahhnuld has to lick the courtroom floor clean daily. Coward.)
You are absolutely right, bustedk, nothing is lower than a union-buster. Mafia, indeed, km.
We are ALL Las Vegans now.
Just as we are all NOlans, every day.
Taylor, thank you and the SEIU for this work. To clarify, you had a line on yesterday’s post that read:
Is today’s coverage also so sponsored? Is all your Vegas Nurse coverage so sponsored?
My encyclopedic knowledge of Las Vegas is based entirely on CSI and YKos, so I’m not surprised this LV is the battlefront on the war on patients. Arnold’s California resolutions didn’t pan out for The Owners in 2005. The union-busters have found themselves a much more hospitable environment in Las Vegas, except that we in da toobz go everywhere.
Where is Nevada’s senior Senator, incoming Majority Leader Harry Reid, on this issue? Hope he’s with the nurses, he oughta be!
Please keep us up-to-date, Taylor. Are there more petitions to sign? I’ve signed and forwarded the original online petition, and will do so as more are available.
Oh, OfT (or is it?):
Troops
Home
NOW
Hi Taylor…
OT:
Go get ‘em Taylor, and don’t let go. My wife will be graduating from nursing school next year and is 100% in support of the Vegas nurses.
From an economics and business practices standpoint, I’m often amazed at the amount of money some corporations are willing to spend to fight a union or weather a strike. In more than a couple cases, they probably would have been better off financially to use those funds to work with the union. Between the costs of bringing in replacement workers, legal bills, lost sales, and other expenses, they end up shooting themselves in the foot financially. In addition, they would also have had much better PR all the way around with respect to their customers.
Any guesses, Taylor, on how much BYA’s contract with UHS is costing the hospital and its investors - and how many nurses that money would pay for over the course of a year?
punaise @ 6
I heard on the radio this morning someones poll had his JAR all the way down to 27.
BWAHAAAAAHAAAAAAhhaaaaaa.
Somebody made a great point in a previous thread about corporations having to negotiate contracts for EVERYTHING-copiers, IT, office supplies, etc. Why not labor?
At the hospital I worked in, we weren’t allowed to bring any kind of literature like Avon catalogs, or religious tracts, or anything inducing/persuading people to do/buy anything. Because, said the supervisor, that would mean them evil union supporters could leave union literature all around the hospital.
We were told how to say “No” to someone standing outside asking us to support the union.
Then, census dropped. Nurses who had been there for 30 years were fired, escorted off the premises by security. We were made to take an extra day off a week, w/o pay, and when one nurse complained that that was a violation and could be addressed with the proper state agency, the supervisor told her she was welcome to do that but she “would not be assured of having a job.”
Margot, they clearly use fear as a club to keep people in line.
TeddySF, thanks, I forgot the SEIU blurb. Reid has been behind the nurses all the way. I interviewed Rory Reid yesterday, who is all over this issue, too. The podcast link is in my post.
Peterr, I don’t have an answer to that question. As I learn more over the weeks and months, when I can, I’ll make sure to let everyone know.
I’m hearing a lot of stories like that, Margot.
Great, Twisted Martini. We need your wife and everyone else on board.
The nurses at Finley Hospital in Dubuque Iowa are in a similar, but not as contentious, position. I don’t recall if they’ve come to agreement on a contract yet. But, in June and July there were 2 3 day strikes. After one of the strikes a nurse was fired for speaking out against the hospital and for the union. IIRC, there’s ongoing litigation about that. They are represented by SEIU local 199.
Another side to the argument is not allowing for talk out against forming a union. Where I work, SEIU, 199 tried to unionize the professional and scientific staff (P&S). The P&S included computer programmers, lab assistants, research assistants, and a whole lot of other groups. SEIU was allowed several tables everywhere to push their agenda, yet those that didn’t want the union were not allowed any space anywhere. They were also banned from using any university property to get out their message. They did manage to get the Labor Board to agree that they could get the same contact information that the union got towards the end of the whole deal.
The union lost here by at least 2 to 1, although this union does represent the university hospital nursing staff. After the whole thing was done, we found the reason for trying to unionize was because a couple of professors (doctors I think with a research lab) were abusing their positions and the affected staff had not bothered to try to go up the chain for resolution.
CA nurses are among the most tenacious unions in the state. When no one else was willing to take on Ahnold - not the Dems who controlled the legislature, not the media, nobody - the nurses hounded him to hold him accountable for his vicious remarks about nurses and his anti-health care policy proposals. They followed him to his fundraisers, to his public appearances, everywhere, reminding him of remarks, and when voters went to the polls in 2005, the nurses led the victorious charge against him.
Don’t mess with CA nurses.
This is the same corporate short-sightedness that stopped HillaryCare and now leaves our big corporations uncompetitive on the world stage with other companies with government-provided healthcare plans. I do not understand why stockholders stand for this from their executives — except for their quarterly viewpoint.
My mother died 11 years ago on 12/1. She was a nurse in a rural Alabama town and she complained constantly about the nurse to patient ratio she had to deal with. When she worked night shifts in the orthopedic ward (there are two types of ortho patients: kids with broken limbs and elderly people recovering from painful surgery) she said she’d have upwards of 12 patients to look after. She did this for about two years before she died. And while her death was not solely attributable to the stressful workload that her hospital management would not even look at, the cardiovascular event that killed her started after a long, stressful night in which she had to care for upwards of 15 patients without much in the way of assistance.
Nursing is hard, hard work. And to be honest, irresponsible nurse to patient ratios can literally be detrimental to the health of our nurses.
I have waited and voiced my concern about the state of healthcare and how corporate America has nearly destroyed the nursing profession.
I remember the threats and harassment when we attempted to talk to unions.
There needs to be several priority steps put into place to save this profession prior to it’s demise. The average age of nurses is between 45-50. It is an aging profession with few new slots opening in nursing education centers.
Also, nurses in America are not treated for what I would call PTSD. Just watch any of the discovery or Trauma TeeVee shows where heroic medical staff save lives, think of dealing with these types of events on a frequent basis.
Nursing is a calling, I loved being a acute care hospital nurse and I was damn good but left in disgust with poor staffing, cover up of physician bad behaviors, lack of support by hospital administration and continuing risk to nurses health and safety.
Per Workman’s Comp, Nursing is rated int the heavy industrial category with ditch diggers and heavy equipment operators. Think about that when they are short on staff, who is lifting and moving patients?
OT, Steve Gilliard opens a Costco sized can on Peter Beinart. Pete’s got both of Steve’s feet in his ass. OOOH RAAAH!
TeddySanFran @
17
Because dildonic people like Larry Kudlow and the rest of the money mongers scream “communism”the moment any mention of socialized medicine is brought up.
Then the good citizens scream about not wanting to become communists.
Then they go to Wal Mart and buy cheap Chinese shit.
-GSD
GSD @ 21
perfect
I’m former 1199, I wish all my brothers and sister luck!
in the meantime, for a good laugh, check out EXHUME GOLDWATER 2008!
http://exhumegoldwater.wordpress.com
Katymine @ 19 - You’ve pretty much nailed it right there.
I don’t understand where these companies think they will get nurses in the future - they are going to face (if it hasn’t started already) an acute shortage of nursing staff - and they act to make working as a nurse so intolerable that few will want to enter the profession. If only from a place of self-interest, one would think they would want to make sure there is an ongoing supply of nurses - after all they can’t run the hospitals etc. without staff.
We need to keep this and other union issues alive. People don’t think about these things until they or their family member is in the hospital bed and one nurse is taking care of ten patients.
Another issue you alluded to are safe-guards when universal health care is a fact. If and when a universal standard of patient care can be mandated from Washington; well think about the priorities of the 109 congress.
Lurking hard………
Nursing issues are varied, complex and not limited to the union-busting situations described here. Please visit my blog, Universal Health, to learn more, and to explore alternatives for taking power back so that nurses control nursing care delivery and patients get sage, compassionate and timely nursing care which is - drum roll - delivered by nurses!.
Flydog @ 25
Quit lurking and get yer ass in on the conversation.
Fern @ 24
Fern, I believe the Owners don’t care about the future - just the quarter.
They are doing to our hospitals and nurses what they’ve already done to
1) savings & loans
2) manufacturing
3) pooled-risk insurance
4) agriculture
5) utilities
6) mass media
Grab the assets, seize the profits, leave a ruin, get obscenely rich.
Never see the families, communities, and people broken and killed.
Wreck the next sector of our economy.
Purchase, imprison, defame, or murder opponents.
Repeat.
Bellow about free markets.
Flydog @ 26
I’d say you’re hardly lurking, myself.
hi flydog! thanks for landing on the Lake…
BTW, Whats a lurk?
Lurker
I keed Teddy, I keed.
A couple of years ago, BusinessWeek looked at the financial results of the virulently anti-union Wal-Mart/Sam’s Club and their big competitor Costco. Here’s a sample from their article comparing the two:
And this comes from BusinessWeek, which isn’t exactly a publicity tool of left wing, anti-corporate, pro-union, liberals.
Now, is this just the exception that proves the rule . . . or is it just possible that working to get a loyal workforce is actually good for the bottom line?
Off Topic, but you really should read republican Gordon Smith’s (S-OR) speech withdrawing his support for the war.
Some will of course say that this shift in position is driven by concerns about reelection in 08. That was certainly my initial reaction. But the speech seems heartfelt. We need 17 Republican senators to withdraw their support for this war (we don’t have Lieberman). When that happens, it’s over. Harry Reid can walk into the Oval Office and say that he has the votes for conviction. 16 to go.
There are 21 Republicans up for reelection in 08.
OT - Raw Story: Page accuses Kolbe of suppressing sexually-explicit messages from Foley
Wow, kirk, did you get their secret decoder ring? That’s an incredibly accurate mission statement you’ve outlined in 29. Sometimes I wonder at how correctly we read the evil ones, and how they do exactly the opposite of what they say.
Then I remember: we are all ruled by our Crown Princes now!
If the ideal state profile is despotism, feudalism, corporatism, and oligarchy, aren’t BushCo terribly close to achieving their goal? One small dirty bomb in a mid-size US city away from accomplishing what all their effort has been directed towards?
Taylor –
Thank you for staying on top of this!
The greed-heads know in their bones that they cannot win in the long run if the truth is presented to the public. It just doesn’t win them fans when they demand that patients get even LESS care so that their bank accounts can just get fatter.
This is something EVERY citizen can understand.
Even if you think that you have enough money to shield yourself from the indignities of what the “peasants” have to put up with, there is no way to guarantee that you yourself won’t be in an accident, unconscious, and shipped by ambulance to a hospital where you can get less-than-optimal care as a result of these “business” decisions.
Your wealthy survivors (even MORE wealthy now that you’ve kicked off!), however, can feel proud that their deceased loved one’s spirit was not tainted by receiving unionized care. Ha!
So, this is just to say that this is one of those issues where the more light shining on the topic, the better. The greed-heads MUST know this — and they are surely scared of all this noise.
Bless you, Taylor, and the rest of the good guys on these here toobz who amplify the message of these brave nurses.
We look forward to future reports from you, and I for one will be happy to keep signing any petition or send any email to support those on the front lines of these urgent labor battles.
Nurses Union issues:
1. Allow Charge or Team Lead Nurses to be union members. This class of nurses were excluded from the latest NLRB ruling.
2. Health and Safety committees in facilities where nurses can go to report or have issues evaluated.
3. Study on safety of 12hr shifts Vs 8 hr shifts in relationship to multiple days of 12hr shifts in a row.
Bustednuckles @
32
you can work the work, but can you lurk the lurk?
re Smith on the Senate floor: The Bearded One focused on Gordon Smith’s use of the word “criminal,” asking JCWatts and Donna Brazile about it. Their responses were all over the place, but Wolfie chose that word, among all in Smith’s speech, as his take.
The Overton window was opened wider by Senator Smith today, whether he meant to or not.
punaise @ 40
Lurking and working.
Doing an oil change inbetween out bursts.
SHHHH!
TeddySanFran @ 38
Nah, Teddy - I lost the decoder ring.
… just kept reading the Economist after I started reading Chomsky.
Bustednuckles @
34
you keed yet you write like el gato!
Fern @
24
Unfortunately, they probably believe that they can keep shipping in nurses from third world countries — people they can then threaten by means of the nurses’ green cards. And they’ll be sure to tell the public that spoiled Americans just don’t want to work hard.
I don’t think this will fly, however. The public “has the nose full” (to use a wonderful German expression meaning “is fed up”).
Peterr @ 35
The people who think WalMart has it right are the ones who don’t see that paying a living wage helps the economy grow: people who have a little more money can buy more food at the grocery store, newer clothes (maybe even at WalMart!), maybe a used car or better housing … and maybe they’ll only need two jobs to make ends meet, instead of three or four, thus opening up more jobs for other people.
These (I think) are the same people who talk about ’sending money into space’ instead of remembering that money goes out as paychecks and purchases from suppliers, and keeps going out like ripples across the country. If it doesn’t go into their own pockets, it just disappears from the economy.
Thanks Taylor, I am an RN and a sick person disenfranchised because I have lyme disease. I have to pay for any doctors visits out of pocket, also meds. I spend about 2 grand a month. The nurse thing is only a small part of how the establishment intends to do away with my and your health care, treatments and rights. Think I’m kidding? I am not. Between trying to establish the Codex (meaning you would have to have a prescription for a vitamin or aspirin) to disenfranchising patients… it’s Bush’s ownership society. Unfortunately, three quarters of Americans cannot afford this. The cold cash is spent giving free meds and care to Africans….
Why should a group of doctors who know nothing about me and my condition limit my care to 60 days after waiting thirty YEARS to tell me what has been wrong.
American health system, devoid of character, conduct, ethics and full of greeeeeed.
Well, we don’t have universal healthcare, but I agree with the underlying point that there is more to the question than just coverage. The healthcare system in this country is broken and bloated at all levels. It will take a massive, thoroughgoing restructuring and reform of the whole system before we can expect a healthcare system that is universal, of good quality, and delivered at a reasonable price to society as a whole.
Wow, Teddy –
Thanks for the “lurker” link. I had no idea there was a whole typology of lurkers.
Who knew? It would have seemed counter-intuitive to be able to categorize folks who remain silent. Very interesting.
P J Evans @ 47
There’s lots I don’t like about Henry Ford, but when he started his factories, he paid every worker enough to buy one of his cars.
Hey Hugh, I finally caught your front-pager from the other day…nice work!
Costco’s approach is just simple common sense.
However, we can see from this example just how uncommon common sense is.
Mrs. K8 @ 50
Yet they are defined by their de-lurking behavior.
Hi Mrs. K8!
And Hi Liz, boy do I understand.
I was injured on the job 1987, had three surgeries, 11 months off work on Workman’s Comp fighting all the way to return to work to find my position gone. I had to work nights and rotating shifts as a house float until I could get a permanent position. During my disability time, I worked “light duty” doing clerical work filling out disability reports and claims for my fellow nurses. Most of the injuries were due to nurses attempting to do more than they are physically capable with little or no help. Again staffing, lack of equipment or attendant help.
yet “lurker” has some negative connotations (although not when used at FDL). there has to be a better word for those who chose not to chime in.
OT –
CNN is giving time to some Jimmy Carter-hater. Some guy who quit the Carter Center in protest.
I missed most of this — what the hell is this about, MAPS printed in Carter’s book???
punaise @ 56
silent friends?
Mrs. K8, it was a CSpan on Jimmy Carter this weekend with some nutcake caller who tried to call Carter racist and anti-Semite using his maps in a book written by Carter.
hi katymine!
I’m very frustrated that my health situation has been keeping me from returning to local meetings, but I hope that when things get better that there will still be room for me jump back in. I feel so bad that I thought my recovery was further along than it was — I ended up not being able to fulfill what I had eagerly promised. :-(
It was so lovely to meet you, and I hope we get to rub elbows again at some point in 2007. Your energy and spirit are infectious!
Mr. K8 and I both wish you a wonderful Christmas and all the best in the New Year.
punaise @ 56
I don’t know about lurkers but would that make us the “commenting chimese”?
How about spectators? First timers, tater tots..)
Mrs. K8– the first guy was Kenneth Stein, followed by Dennis Ross.
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....nes-nation
This morning there were very few stories, now the firestorm has created 130 on google…
Thanks Taylor for another great post!
Hugh @ 61
“chime chime-a-nee
chime chime-a-nee
chime chime chareee“
A message to our silent friends.
My Grandmother was from the south. She used to cook huge meals, all day.
She used to tell me,” Sweety, if you’re bashful in this house, you’re going to be hungry”. (Like that could ever happen.) When supper was served, there were plates and elbows and please pass this and please pass that.Everybody got right to the business of eating.
So, Don’t be bashful. Thats kind of what this place is like.
( They let me in here, didn’t they?)
occasional de-lurkers would be “Poppins”, of course
Participation Inequality: Encouraging More Users to Contribute
seeing eye dogs, a bit to long.
Thank you, angie, for the names and for that link — and thanks, katymine, for the background.
I had a feeling when Jimmy Carter came out boldly in his criticism of our Middle East policy that it wouldn’t be long until he got slammed. Is that what this guy Kenneth Stein is up to?
With noise going on here (a la pupster), it was difficult to know what they were talking about. It seemed to circle around the matter of some MAPS.
That seemed strange to me. However, maybe there are some map-lovers here who can explain to me how maps can be an issue of “plagiarism.”
punaise @ 66
Scary ‘Mary Poppins’ Trailer
Bustednuckles @ 65
Is that how you got the busted knuckles? ;-)
Naw, I’m a mechanic. Don’t buy cheap tools, thats how you get your Knuckles Busted.
( I did get stabbed in the back of the hand with a fork by my uncle. He wanted that last pork chop reaaaaly bad.)
There was one category of lurkdom ignored by the Wikipedia article –
They didn’t address the question of folks (like me!) who are struggling to keep up with all the reading matter on numerous blogs and news outlets — and find there’s no time left after getting up to speed on a subject to then compose a coherent comment!
This is a category which should be included in the Wikipedia entry.
But I don’t have the TIME to get involved with Wikipedia posting, too.
;-)
Mrs. K8 @ 69
they seem to be saying he should have given attribution for what Ross is claiming are his maps– blame Carter, the editor, or the publisher– take yer pick and alleging that he is making stuff up. I can’t see it, myself.
(seems like they joined Dershowitz’ campaign…)
obfuscate the real issue that James Carter is trying to make a topic of conversation.
Sam Brownback (on Hardball now) has one of the smarmiest so-called “smiles” I’ve ever seen. Yeccchhh.
there is a new thread upstairs
punaise @ 56
TSF calls them “voyagers:” on board for the ride, and welcome to chime in whenever they like.
hi maaaaads :)
waaaah!
the server ate my comment again - it uplinked (to 3:00) a respond to a 3:05 comment (and I type so slowly I was too late for “edit”)
(if we feed the servers more often, would they devour fewer comments?)
newbie
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....back-down/
Mrs. K8 @ 69
I heard the author of the book from which the MAPS are alleged to have been taken (by Stein) say that Carter mischaracterized the MAPS in his book, saying that the MAPS were Israeli views, but that these MAPS (the author alleges) were Clinton-thinking MAPS, although not Clinton-proposed MAPS. ymmv.
kirk murphey, how do we make sure this Codex doesn’t happen?
Mrs. K8 @ 75
Brownback/Musgrave 2008
Yeah, I saw him too Mrs. K8, and he’s surefire runnin’ for President. Heartland isolationist anti-science talibangelist who converted to Catholicism due to Santorum. Sure to make the 27%ers moist.
1,359 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Taylor Marsh and the Firepup Patriots:
(I’m baaaaack…so duck DINOs, Clintonistas and other fascist enablers!!)
Taylor, this post is VERY important right now, given the recent call for a labor/blogosphere alliance and the first glimpses of the end-game strategy of the Bush oligarchs.
I am a registered nurse and I work for a very progressive hospital. We get all the terms of our metropolitan area union nurses contract though we are not affiliates. We have a non-union “contract” which is “negotiated” every two years concurrent with the area union contract. So far, we are probably the best hospital in the area as far as management, staffing and working conditions and that is because our senior administrator is a former RN and the professional physicians groups that serve the hospital have worked very hard to keep from bein’ gobbled up by the large insurance trusts and area HMOs. It also helps that 2 of the surgical clinics that keep the place afloat are among the best in the Midwest at what they do. Finally, because of the progressive attitude of the management and the close working relationship of the professional staff and business staff, my hospital has been rated number 1 in patient satisfaction in the metropolitan area over the last 5 years. But that could all change in a heartbeat with economic conditions that are right around the corner. Our “contract” language specifically allows for mandatory overtime, it establishes a mechanism but not limits on it’s implementation. Also, there is NO language addressing nurse-patient ratios or varying acuities of patient conditions by unit or department. So…unless we get a re-enforcement and expansion of Medicare, real prescription drug coverage and the current nurse shortage continues (unlikely), when the Bush deflation hits we are gunna be hung out ta dry like the folks in Las Vegas.
This is all of a piece though, in the grand political scheme of things. The oligarchy, through their corporate money laundries have destroyed the unions, blown up Taft-Hartley and the anti-trust laws, and nuked the security and exchange and banking regulations of 1933-35. They have packed the Supreme Court and the Courts of Appeal with Federalist Society goons who make the 1922 Supreme Court look like ragin’ Marxists. And they have undermined Social Security and the public treasury so badly that even with new muscular laws, the Justice Department wouldn’t have the resources to implement them.
In addition, the Congress has been emasculated to the point that the administration can say “fuck you” to any subpoena issued and the Supreme Court will back ‘em up. The only recourse is gunna be impeachment and the politics of THAT is gunna be here before springtime.
So,everything is comin’ together with a gathering speed…the Iraq War, the imploding economy, the healthcare crisis and the bankrupt federal treasury. The folks who are fightin’ in Las Vegas and the people of that community who are behind them, are at the cutting edge of the force that is building to confront the oligarchic crime families. These are the folks who voted to “throw the bastards out” and they won’t stand for any politician who equivocates or sells out.
I worked the neighborhoods and the telephone lines this last election cycle and I’m convinced that we are headed for a political explosion very similar to 1932-33…and the oligarchy won’t make the mistake of allowing a free election to give power to another FDR (write Al Gore in here…). We are gunna be in the street at some point, either dancin’ on Laura Bush’s red dress or fightin’ Haliburton goons.
So, getcher checkbooks out to support union strikers and organizin’ efforts…keep your Congressperson and Senators on speed dial and…
KEEP THE FAITH, WE OWE IT TO THE CHILDREN!!!
Hugh @ 2:27 pm (#49)
In a comment I made at Taylor’s site the other day, I mentioned that I thought this SEIU vs. Universal thing was part of the process of “downsizing” the health industry so it would be able to treat its paying customers most efficiently. That’s “efficiently” in the narrow economic profit/loss sense. It’s not about providing quality health care, and they certainly don’t care about customers who can’t pay. That’s another reason why it’s so important to have some form of universal health coverage - not only is there no slack in the system for emergencies, there’s no slack in the system for the uncovered, either. As the privitization of health care continues, this is just going to get worse.
On the great debate over socialized medicine vs. universal health insurance, I’m largely standing aside. I think, though, that there needs to be a radical overhaul of the current system, or as a society we will very soon pay a terrible price.
NORSKE!!!
Fern @ 24
They’re going to import nurses from India, Pakistan and the Philippines.
BC
Bargain Countertenor @ 86
I think they’ll have trouble getting nurses from India, but you have the general idea right.
We already recruit nurses from the Phillipines, Canada and Ireland.
Hi Margot -
great question!
unfortunately, my longish answer got eaten - here are brief bits of it… :)
(short answer: in the EU, a judicial appeal overturned an effort to impose Codex rules on Germans - teh googling will lead to the details..
Also - each nation has different drug “regulators”, and the WTO adds a different complexity to working out how the Codex may impact a given nation’s regulatory system.
In assessing likely impact of WTO regs, recall the WTO is the megacorps’ attempt at global government and you can figure out the rest!
If you end up looking this up, happy reading - be sure to keep the barf bag at hand!)