Comments on: Late Nite FDL: Retro Thursday Presents Judy Miller

By: Wess

Wess — Sat, 09 Dec 2006 05:18:25 +0000

Let’s talk about standards of journalism, shall we? Judy Miller repeatedly pushed questionable intelligence — most of which turned out to be false — on the front pages of the New York Times,

Again, I will repeat THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE INTELLIGENCE GIVEN TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

It was twisted and totally ignored by the Bush Cabal.
The Intel. provided said that Saddam did not have any weapons factories or WMD’s. It was the Bush Government which Lied to the Public and Congress about said Intel.

I’m pretty sure Miller knew exactly what she was doing from start to finish.
She knew she was printing Lies.
Her Editor/s knew they were printing Lies.
They all did it because they were either going to benefit from it, or, they were just to damm gutless to tell the Truth!

I still can’t believe that anyone, anyone at all, would even believe for one second that Saddam (or anyone else for that matter) would go to the trouble to Import Aluminium tubes from overseas to make WMD’s. I mean Jesus H. Christ give me a break…aluminuim tubes ???

How about a stick? or a piece of fucking wire?

Yes that’s right members of the UN, Saddam approached the Russian Mafia for a piece of wire!! A piece of wire to build Nuclear Bombs!!! AAahhhhhh we better invade real quick ’cause if he gets his hands on a piece of wire we’re all doomed!

By: 1 Boring Old Man » Miller time…

1 Boring Old Man » Miller time… — Sat, 09 Dec 2006 03:09:27 +0000

[…] July 2003 was a busy month for the press. On July 6th, Joseph Wilson’s oped piece came out in the NY Times criticizing Bush’s rationale for war. On the 8th, Robert Novak talked to source #1 [unknown] and Karl Rove, finding out about Wilson’s wife, Valerie Plame’s C.I.A. identity. On the 11th, Matt Cooper got his info from Karl Rove about "Wilson’s wife." On the 14th, Novak’s article "outing Plame" appeared in print. Meanwhile, back to Judith Miller. She was a confidante of Dr. David Kelly. He was a British Microbiologist in the secret service, having been an inspector in Iraq after the Gulf War. He had been a big source for her book "Germs," the doomsday book about biological warfare. He was also something of a firebrand about Iraq, at least early on. On May 22, 2003, he met with a British reporter who later published an article on May 29th saying Tony Blair’s Administration had overstated Iraq’s capabilities in a dossier. The un-named source was Dr. David Kelly. This was rather quickly figured out and also Dr. Kelly turned himself in, though he claimed not to have said all that was reported. He was interviewed on July 15, 2003 by a board appointed to run down the leak, and look in to the allegations. He denied much of what was charged but was obviously tense and defensive. That night he wrote an email to his pal, Judith Miller, saying that there were "many dark actors" at work. Two days later, he walked into the woods and was found dead – wrist cut and bloodstream full of a tranquillizer. Not long thereafter, it was announced that he was the only source for the report. Many suspected murder, but an inquest by Lord Hutton declared it a suicide. Miller’s own article [July 21, 2003 - Scientist Was the ‘Bane of Proliferators] about Dr. Kelly was sympathetic but failed to mention their personal relationship, or that his final email was to her. July wasn’t over for Judith. She was still under attack by the media for her Iraq reporting. By the 20th she was backpedaling, though she threw blame everywhere but in the mirror [ July 20, 2003 - A Chronicle of Confusion in the U.S. Hunt for Hussein’s Chemical and Germ Weapons]. Somewhere in this sea of activity, she talked to somebody about Valerie Plame and the prosecutor knows it. In his brief to the judge, there are six pages about it, blanked out in the public version. The judge, in his decision to jail her, said that these were very unusual facts [whatever they are] that certainly justified her jailing. It was such a different perspective then, August 2005. On that same day, President Bush announced that John Bolton would be our U.N. Ambassador. Two things have Judith Miller on my mind. There was a post about her on Firedoglake last night. But the other thing was thinking about how we got into this mess in Iraq that is now so impossible to untangle, and she came to mind. Although we now know that her Plame source was I. Lewis Libby, Vice President Cheney’s [now indicted] Chief of Staff, we still don’t know how she was fed all of those fallacious stories about Hussein’s Doomsday Weaponry. Some came from Chalabi, but some must’ve come from the White House. […]

By: rumi

rumi — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:32:46 +0000

raven @ 210

The ears are a 7 point favorite over those annoying bumble bees.

rumi @ 206

What’s the latest line on the Gator Bowl?

Thanks raven
I had to leave right after posting the question. I hate it when that happens. So far today we’re believing the motto that Mountaineers are always free, but maybe $12mil plus incentives/buyout could be enough to snag one.

By: Christy Hardin Smith

Christy Hardin Smith — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:46:18 +0000

Morning, gang. Fresh thread, up and ready. And the coffee is hot…

By: twolf1

twolf1 — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:39:04 +0000

new thread

By: OldCoastie

OldCoastie — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:37:33 +0000

I’ll take strong coffee and bisquits, pleas, nj -

‘morning, all..

By: Unrepentant Liberal

Unrepentant Liberal — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:27:26 +0000

So some guy, whose name I didn’t catch, on Scarborough last night said that because I’m liberal, I’m suppose to read the NYT because it’s a ‘liberal paper.’ Boy do they have that wrong. He clearly has not been paying attention to what the Times has been printing lately. P.S. I don’t usually watch Joe, but I was busy cooking dinner and he was on after Keith Olbermann.

By: twolf1

twolf1 — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:23:46 +0000

Balrog @ 211

That’s fine, but I took the tone of our discussions re: Keenan yesterday to mean she was more than just a moron. Like a double-agent plant. Was I listening correctly?

I didn’t read through the comments yet :(

By: Balrog

Balrog — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:22:09 +0000

twolf1 @ 212

Balrog @ 211

That’s fine, but I took the tone of our discussions re: Keenan yesterday to mean she was more than just a moron. Like a double-agent plant. Was I listening correctly?

I didn’t read through the comments yet :(

Well then, how’s life? :)

By: raven

raven — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:21:35 +0000

The ears are a 7 point favorite over those annoying bumble bees.

rumi @ 206

What’s the latest line on the Gator Bowl?