
John in Sacramento reminded me of something yesterday in the comments. I have been meaning to talk about this Lakoff essay, but just haven't had time to get to it. But this week, as we have pondered the mess that is FEMA, the chaos in Iraq, and the failures of the rubber stamp Republican Congress to provide oversight of the White House or, even in truth, itself, the framing that Lakoff provides with regard to conservative philosophy ought to be examined more closely.
And it is this portion of the essay that hits the nail right on the frame:
Perhaps the biggest irony of the Bush-is-incompetent frame is that these "failures" -- Iraq, Katrina and the budget deficit -- have been successes in terms of advancing the conservative agenda.One of the goals of Conservatives is to keep people from relying on the federal government. Under Bush, FEMA was reorganized to no longer be a first responder in major natural disasters, but to provide support for local agencies. This led to the disastrous response to Hurricane Katrina. Now citizens, as well as local and state governments, have become distrustful of the federal government's capacity to help ordinary citizens. Though Bush's popularity may have suffered, enhancing the perception of federal government as inept turned out to be a conservative victory.
Conservatives also strive to get rid of protective agencies and social programs. The deficit Bush created through irresponsible tax cuts and a costly war in Iraq will require drastic budget cuts to remedy. Those cuts, conservatives know, won't come from military spending, particularly when they raise the constant specter of war. Instead, the cuts will be from what Conservatives have begun to call "non-military, discretionary spending;" that is, the programs that contribute to the common good like the FDA, EPA, FCC, FEMA, OSHA and the NLRB. Yet another success for the conservative agenda. Both Iraq and Katrina have enriched the coffers of the conservative corporate elite, thus further advancing the conservative agenda.
Halliburton, Lockhead Martin and US oil companies have enjoyed huge profit margins in the last six years. Taking Iraq's oil production off-line in the face of rising international demand meant prices would rise, making the oil inventories of Exxon and other firms that much more valuable, leading to record profits. The destruction wrought by Katrina and Iraq meant billions in reconstruction contracts. The war in Iraq (and the war in Afghanistan) meant billions in military equipment contracts. Was there any doubt where those contracts would go? Chalk up another success for Bush's conservative agenda.
Bush also used Katrina as an opportunity to suspend the environmental and labor protection laws that Conservatives despise so much. In the wake of Katrina, environmental standards for oil refineries were temporarily suspended to increase production. Labor laws are being thwarted to drive down the cost of reconstruction efforts. So, amidst these "disasters," Conservatives win again.
Where most Americans see failure in Iraq -- George Miller recently called Iraq a "blunder of historic proportions" -- conservative militarists are seeing many successes. Conservatives stress the importance of our military -- our national pride and worth is expressed through its power and influence. Permanent bases are being constructed as planned in Iraq, and America has shown the rest of the world that we can and will preemptively strike with little provocation. They succeeded in a mobilization of our military forces based on ideological pretenses to impact foreign policy. The war has struck fear in other nations with a hostile show of American power. The conservatives have succeeded in strengthening what they perceive to be the locus of the national interest -- military power.
This is the foundation on which conversations about the Bush Administration and the Republican-controlled Congress ought to rest -- and ought to have rested all along -- in terms of understanding and, especially, in terms of attacking it at the root.
And it is in that context that I refer back to a post that Digby did back in 2004, during the throes of the last Presidential election, discussing doing the framing properly -- in the context of a prior Lakoff frame regarding the question of national security considerations in the Bush v. Kerry context:
From a tactical communications standpoint, it is very important for the left to acknowledge that Lakoff is telling us that our current method of framing ourselves is as flawed as the way the other side frames us. (Indeed, I’ve just argued that the master himself has made a major error.) But, even if I agreed with his framework, it would still not be useful to merely parrot it and assume that it is a good tactical framework merely because Lakoff himself is a progressive. The point of all this is to frame issues in such a way as to persuade the undecideds and apathetic and at least some members of the opposition to agree with our side of the argument. That means we have to stop preaching to the choir all the time.And framing alone is not enough. We also have to take into account certain realities about how people arrive at political decisions these days. It’s my observation that they rely on simplistic symbolism and image more than they have in the past, mostly because of the pervasiveness of the shallow celebrity culture and television's position as the epicenter of the American community. (I’ll elaborate on that in a later post.)
As Lakoff says in the article:
In the strict father model, the big thing is discipline and moral authority, and punishment for those who do something wrong. That comes out very clearly in the Bush administration's foreign and domestic policy. With Schwarzenegger, it's in his movies: most of the characters that he plays exemplify that moral system. He didn't have to say a word! He just had to stand up there, and he represents Mr. Discipline. He knows what's right and wrong, and he's going to take it to the people. He's not going to ask permission, or have a discussion, he's going to do what needs to be done, using force and authority. His very persona represents what conservatives are about.I think this is right on the money. Schwarzenegger’s campaign rested solely on his scripted action-hero persona. In fact, this may be the first election in which all pretense of substance was completely abandoned in favor of purely manufactured Hollywood symbolism. The “crisis” that precipitated the recall wasn’t real, the ensuing voter “anger” wasn’t real and the winning candidate wasn’t real. The entire narrative was scripted as a loose form reality TV show in which the drama was pushed and prodded by the “producers” even though the outcome wasn’t preordained. It was “real” in the same way that “Survivor” is real.
As Lakoff rightly points out, this stuff is important and the Democrats are just not getting with the program. The other side is doing it with a tremendous amount of sophistication and almost unlimited financial backing. California is the most populated state in the nation and if it can happen here, a Democratic state, it can happen nationally. In fact, in many ways, election 2000 was an early version.
Meanwhile, many on our side seem to believe that there is something distasteful about framing issues and using symbolism and metaphor to win elections as if being unable to govern honestly is the natural consequence of using these communication techniques. This is wrong. (emphasis mine)
If I could, I would make certain that every Democratic official read Digby every day. This is so spot on. One only need look to the Reagan era as to how important the symbolism and the framing could be in terms of overlay with the actual substantive discussions that are also needed. No one is suggesting that the illusory replace the substantive. But it is worth understanding in this age of ADD and TIVO-ing to get through commercial breaks that much more quickly that the American attention span is limited.
And, as a result, any messaging that is done using only part of the tools at our fingertips is a lost opportunity. It would be stupid to say otherwise, frankly, and Democrats -- from elected officials through to the talking heads who claim to speak for them (and us) in the punditry need to wake up and realize that in this age of sound bites, every idiotic thing that dribbles out of their mouths, every bad hair day, every poor wardrobe choice, every missed opportunity to tell the story as we want it to be told is just a moment which fumbles the ball into the hands of the other side. We cannot afford to make those sorts of errors any longer -- the Wurlitzer has been working this since the days of Reagan, and it is past time that we caught up to modern communications 101.
Which leads me to a recent news conference that Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi gave and a particular response of hers to a reporter question which I thought deserved a read:
Q: Madame Speaker, a two-parter. One, do you support the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group - all of the recommendations? And can you respond to the study group's recommendation -- especially your former colleague, Leon Panetta -- that this going forward has to be a strong bipartisan effort? Is that possible when your colleague, Senator Reid, has already promised vigorous oversight, including going back into pre -war intelligence issues at the outset of the new Congress?Ms. Pelosi. I think that it's not only possible, it is absolutely necessary for Congress to exercise its oversight over the executive branch. It is our constitutional responsibility and when our men and women are in harm's way, that responsibility is heightened.
I haven't read the entire Iraq Study Group report. We just received the book this morning. But it was interesting to me that they did support a recommendation from Democrats in the House and the Senate. We've written to the President on more than one occasion to say the mission in Iraq must be changed from combat to training. And that's one of the first recommendations of the group. That would then lead to a responsible redeployment of our troops out of Iraq. Certainly, their initiatives on diplomacy are ones that we advocated in our letters to the President as well, to give some responsibility to reach out in a diplomatic way to countries in the region and beyond, to build more stability in Iraq.
I have to read the entire book to get down to the details, but I liked how they began. They began by saying we must transition our troops out of Iraq. We begin by changing the mission. Democrats have been saying that all along.
The bipartisanship is essential. Senator Reid has called for House and Senate, Democrats and Republicans, to come together to consider the Iraq Study Group's proposal as well as other positive ideas that are out there about how we end the war in Iraq, bring our troops home safely and soon. One of the provisions they presented was changing the atmosphere domestically within Iraq and saying that if the Iraqi government does not live up to certain standards, that our support would be reduced. And we certainly subscribe to that.
But, again, we have to read the whole book. It's one of many of several, thoughtful proposals, that are put out there.
I joined the President in supporting the effort, and I'll look forward to seeing how they support us back in a bipartisan communication with the President from the Congress on Iraq. First and foremost, I salute the Iraq Study Group, for agreeing that the present Bush policy in Iraq has been a failure. And then everything sprang from that.
I think this is an excellent example of framing the argument about President Bush and the ISG with respect to the Democratic approach on this -- and staying on message as to where the fault ought to be apportioned for this mess on the doorstep of the Bush Administration and the Republicans who have failed, for years now, to provide appropriate oversight. I think this was very well done, but I'd love to hear what you all think. Frankly, having a Democratic leader stay on message and throw in a pointed jab with a smile on her face is such a welcome change, I'm just happy to be able to share it.
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Uncle Sam, meet Grover’s bathtub.
-GSD
GSD, you paint a scary picture! What up Firedoggies?
fitz!
Folks the Esten thread is still going and contributions for his leukemia treatment are still welcome.
It’s that bit about getting people not to rely on the gov’t that raises my aging hackles. And it is why I so despise the blue dog dems, besides being an affront to decent dogs everywhere.
When it comes to a choice between social needs and business interests, they will go with the chamber of commerce crowd.
Bastards (and bitches).
Having dealt with symbol and image in my doctoral work, I want to take exception - slightly - to one element of Digby’s analysis:
Yes, we’ve got a shallow celebrity culture, and yes TV is at the center of the American community, but symbol and image are hardly simplistic.
Symbol and image, like their cousins metaphor and simile, are strong, not weak. That’s why Homer is widely remembered while most of the ancient philosophers are not. In an increasingly complex world, people are looking for ways to understand it - and that’s where symbol and image are strongest. And it’s not new. Check out the history of political cartooning some time, or the colonial pamphleteers.
Of course, if you choose poor symbols, or take good images and use them poorly or to bad ends, then yes, you’ve got manipulation and excess and all the nonsense that we attach to “celebrity culture.”
Good on Hamilton for urging robust oversight, and calling the Congress out for not doing its damn job.
OT (momentarily delurking)
Saw this bumper sticker yesterday:
Cheney/Satan ‘08
-gave me a good laugh
Peterr at 6 — I think to get the context of Digby’s comment there, you need to read the entire essay. It was a bit long, and I snipped the portion that was pertinent to where I was going. But Digby was referring to the bumbling of various Democratic spokespeople who were underusing and misusing symbolism in the 2004 election cycle — and misusing Lakoff’s framing which is referred to in the essay. I’ve probably done Digby a disservice by quoting only a snippet here, but I couldn’t figure out any other way to do this without it being a multi-parter. *g*
Great post Christy. Context for us is so important, and Lakoff illustrates very well how Bush’s incompetence feeds the conservative storyline. Good to see the D’s beginning to embrace this.
The “govt is inept” frame you describe above, Christy, is a powerful one. On the other hand, the frame lots of folks seemed to be using in November was “the GOP is inept/corrupt/etc.”
There’s a big difference between those two frames. Sorry, Grover, I don’t think yours is selling all that well.
When do Bush and Blair hold their press conference?
heh, here y’all are! I was down there and missed the heads up for the new thread.
epu’d
any minute now, ET.
Surprise, surprise, surprise!: Ehud Olmert doesn’t like the ISG report.
I won’t call this OT, because I think it speaks to Christy’s point: a Middle East in chaos is exactly what the neocons really wanted. A Middle East in chaos means that the only way any order can flow is from outside the region and/or through those good buddies of the U.S. and the oil industry, Saudi Arabia and Israel. It’s kind of like the “If I can’t have her, nobody will” thinking of the stereotypical stalker ex-boyfriend, and it speaks equally to the obsessive need to control that characterizes the real antagonists in this scenario. You know, authoritarian American reactionaries, authoritarian Israeli reactionaries, authoritarian Saudi reactionaries…the common theme that unites the People of the Book is simply authoritarian reactionism.
Where most Americans see failure in Iraq . . . conservative militarists are seeing many successes.
This is such an important point, because everyone still plays along that they are “governing” when actually what they are doing is “looting”. It is just hard for people to get their heads around the idea that Bush has redefined the role of his office to be basically the opposite of what it was intended to be.
Chimpy and Poodle up now on CNN
I also meant to say that the Book Salon discussion that we had with Bill Scher hit this right on as well — with the “effective versus ineffective” framing on governmental analysis. I think this is a much better way to look at things than “all government is bad,” which I know, having served as an assistant prosecutor as a governmental employee that government can be very good when it is effectively put into action.
Ed*ard Teller @ 12
MSNBC’s Tim Russett is commenting at this moment and Bush & Blair are starting their news conference, Bush looks awful.
Ed*ard Teller @ 12
thought it was supposed to be 10:55… don’t know what happened… maybe slight delay?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 9
I’ll read the whole thing a bit later . . . Right now The Kid is being eloquent in his use of the English language to inquire about the absence of pancakes on his plate, and to request that the powers-that-be deal with the situation. *g*
Peterr @ 6
I’ll have to disagree, but only in emphasis. Symbols and other forms of idea are actually pretty weak in and of themselves. After all, any idiot can have an idea, even if it’s a bad one, and many can make at least a polemic case. What is strong is control of the materialization of symbols, and that is where state propaganda and commercial culture enter into it. This is related, but not identical, to the old saw about the medium being the message–it is the economic control of the manifestations of symbols, not the symbols themselves, that provides the means of ideological control.
twolf1 @ 16
if christy doesn’t mind, live blogging would be greatly appreciated (i don’t have cnn)
Chimp on cspan, msnbc, cnn, fux news, CBS & Fox broadcast
selise at 22 — please — anyone watching the presser, feel free to chime in — I’ve got an ear on the Armed Services hearing.
oohh. happy days. cbs is carrying dear leader’s presser.
chimp - 1st use of ‘foment’ in this speech - 11:08 AM eastern
chimp - 2nd use of ‘foment’ - 11:09 AM eastern
twolf1 at 26 — whoever got him that word of the day calendar at the White House needs to be smacked…
EvilDrPuma @
14
Amen. I posted this at latenight fdl last night after all of you were long asleep:
Terry Gross interviewed Noa Sattath, an Israeli gay rights activist, who has organized the Jerusalem Gay Pride events over recent years. Terry interviewed her on Fresh Air: I transcribed it myself…
Terry Gross: I’ve noticed just reading the newspapers that opposition to your gay pride parades is the only thing that’s effectively united Orthodox Jews with Orthodox Muslims as well as Christians. United them in opposition to your marches, and I wonder how that makes you feel, knowing the impossibility of finding unity, and this is what they’ve found unity on?
Noa Sattath: Well, I’m very much in favor of them finding unity, so I’m hopeful that once they’ve found this ridiculous issue to unite over, they might find other issues, but seriously speaking, I’m very disappointed that these respectable religious leaders can only unite over hate, when there are so many other important issues in our area.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 28
Honestly. Der Shrubbenfuhrer can barely internalize one word a month. What a waste of money.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 28
Have you noticed that everyone on capitol hill is using it now?
twolf1 @ 31
@#!*%! Rove and his email list.
chimpy on CNN - we r facing a threat to civilization
same shite different speech
-defeat the extremists ideologies
-spread freedom in the ME like butter on toast (freedom butter?)
-talking about Pearl Harbor now and, i assume, will b making comparisons to current situation.
I even used it yesterday, but I actually have used it for years and as I wrote it I felt a little ill…..
Committee hearing is finished. Hamilton and Levin had a little chat at the end up at the desk — wonder if we’ll be hearing more in January when Levin takes over the committee?
I’ve switched over to the Bush/Blair presser. Bush looks crabby — and they have too much pancake makeup on him this morning. Wonder if his usual make-up person is on vacation or something? (Although, truthfully, Blair looks similarly pancaked. Maybe its the lighting…)
chimpy on CNN - “extremisssssstsss”
twolf1 @ 33
See, this is the problem. Some people like jam on their toast. Some like peanut butter. Why should freedom be just one thing? I can believe this ain’t butter.
Junya’s read on the ISG Report: Where’s mah pony? Don’t ah get a pony?
Blair thanks boosh for his clarity.
What kind of tea has he been drinking?
blair on CNN - thank you chimpy for being the coolest most bestest dude in the whole wide world
-”i believe this is a mission we have to succeed in” (didn’t he see the banner?)
angie at 39 — the kind with v*lium in it?
Chimpys’ fomenting at the mouth.
-GSD
twolf1 @ 33
Oops. I was on the wrong thread. I can’t believe Chimpy goes on with the same old, same old after that blast from Baker. Still going on pretending he & Blair are both Churchill.
blair on CNN - must support malaki gov’t
-do everything we can to bring about peace for israel/palestine
-thanks bush for his tremendous effort in that department
Christy Hardin Smith @ 41
heh
I was thinking more along the lines of psy**edelics.
twolf1 @ 44
That’s not v*lium in that tea, Christy. It’s LSD.
Ooooh — we’re getting some snow today. Lovely! (Is nice to be inside with warm coffee and a working heater. *g*)
Freedom is on the march……and it is marching OUT of the middle east at a rapid pace.
Heckuva job nitwits.
-GSD
Blair: Two roads only for ME religious dictatorship v. secular democracy.
Jeez how many countries in w. Europe are not all that secular I wonder.
blair on CNN - only realistic path to security is by the spread of liberty. (now it’s liberty butter?)
–question time–
do u acknowledge the baker/hamilton reports idea that your way is failing.
chimp - i have asked the pentagon to draft a way forward
chimp - the only thing that isg report did was to show that Dems and Goops can work together
question to bush - do you acknowledge that your policy has failed, as the baker/hamilton report suggests?
a reporter with a spine?
Dinkweed(Bush), Republicans and Democrats worked together to start this inane war.
-GSD
chimp on cnn - report did a good job on showing what is possible. congress wont accept every recommendation of isg report, neither will the administration
FU Bush
twolf1 @ 44
What?!! Chimpy bringing effort to israel/palestine. No, No no. It’s not v*lium Blair is on. It’s some sort of drug that causes delusions.
Chimpy believes a Shia dictatorship can cause stability. Is that it?
chimp on cnn - idea of having an international group is an ‘interesting idea’
(I hate this man)
Congress doesn’t have to accept them, HE does.
He’s the only one to blame if he rejects them.
fomenter in chief fomenting at the mouth.
blah blah blah blah freedom blah blah bipartisan blah victory blah blah responsibilities blah terrorism. terra terra terra.
twolf1 @ 52
At least he’s consistent. A consistent fuckup and failure.
chimp on CNN - is in full i’m-talking-down-to-you mode
bush is making one thing clear - he hasn’t read the isg report (disclaimer - i’ve only read parts of it).
angie @ 54
Okay, then. Let’s get started blaming him.
twolf1 @ 54
We’ll see how that goes. Congress got a smackdown from Baker.
chimp on CNN - I’m still the f*#king Decider! and don’t you forget it!!
Bush IS incompetent- it isn’t a “frame” WHATEVER THAT IS.
I have two reactions to this discussion:
1) If dems pay more attention to substance and less attention to STYLE- they’ll be LOTS better off.
2) Success is all about timing.. The messages that won in 2006 wouldn’t have won in 2004-when the war was still young and hopeful and when 9/11 was fresh in the rear view mirror.
It is a HUGE mistake to spin the “permanent principles of politics” after the most recent defeat or victory- you’ll end up with a strategy that is like stale bread- and basing what you do on the perceived strengths of your opponent is a losing approach- what do you do after you beat him and he looks more like a pathetic mouseturd than a dominating titan?
Sure it’s a good idea to make sure that you are packaging your message in a way that it will be received well- but if you start confusing the packaging with the message- yer in deep doo-doo (in my opinion).
Congress has got to yank the expired auth for use of force like Byrd said…
The Brits hated Churchill before the war- then they LOVED him during the war- after the war they hated him again…
The demand for the macho hero has a very short shelf life.
First question to Bush set off another of his incoherent babble-fest with poorly disguised contempt. I almost feel sorry for Tony Blair.
twolf1 @ 61
If he’s talking to Bush, I don’t think he has any other choice.
blair on cnn - blah blah blah i haven’t finished licking the peanut butter from chimpy’s nether regions blah blah blah
Ladies and gentlemen, The Fomenting Decider.
-GSD
rw at 64 — that was the point of the two paragraphs under the Digby piece — maybe I wasn’t clear there, but the substance is the basis, but the framing and the messaging is the means by which the substance gets across more effectively to a wider swath of the public. The framing makes it stick. But if the substance is useless, no amount of framing is going to take it anywhere.
Am tired this morning, so perhaps that isn’t coming across as clearly as I might like it to do so…
newspaperbrat @ 66
I don’t. If Blair wants to guarantee that he’ll be forever remembered in British history as a slavish enabler to a foreign warmonger, that’s his choice to make. Looks like he’s made it.
Peterr @ 67
sorry Peterr, i originally, and mistakenly had blair’s name but edited it to say ‘Bush on CNN’
Blair all hissy on the issue of Iran. He sees himself and Chimpy as being “tough” getting countries to live up to their “responsibilites.” (And he and Chimp are responsible?)
Blair: we have the right “vision.” with the right amount of “realism.”
Pony Blair is teaching us about the “modern forms of realism”…yesss, yesssss preciousssss
Brit reporter accuses chimp of being in denial
Chimp: it’s bad in Iraq. heh heh heh
(i really hope that question and answer is caught on tape somewhere!)
Uh oh — a British reporter just questioned his author-i-tay.
chimp on CNN - i understand how hard it is. i talk to the families of those that died. i understand the sectarian violence…. i understand (now mad) but we will succeed.
I wish to hell someone would just ask him to quantify his objectives.
chimp on CNN - chimpy mad, history will prove… A threat overseas can now come home to hurt us.
(that’s not saying much for his DHS)
Hey Decider, those historians are calling you the worst president ever right now. Why do you want to know what they are going to think in the future.
-GSD
Redd- Oh I probably read it quickly and flew off the handle..What I wrote may have had nothing to do with what you were saying- but I felt a need to write it.
Glorfindel @ 74
Steve Bell will have a hard time deciding what most needs to be mocked in this conference.
fomenting chimp spewing lunacy, loudly
Bush: “failure is to quit.” (Like his Brain?)
“This is an ideological struggle.” (Forces of good and evil. *star wars theme playing*.)
“We will prevail.” (in the war on “terra”.)
Brit reporter kicking a**!
Don’t you agree that what Israel/Arab problem needs is real commitment from an American admin, not another visit from a British PM?
Kerpow!
Blair is playing Chamberlain to Bush’s……..
-GSD
My God, I just heard Bush’s remarks and
he hasn’t changed a bit…
Impeach is the only way… he is a fucking fool.
Jack
Blair: “you just carry on” . . . “if you do it will carry a symbol of massive er uh symbolic power(?)”
chimp on CNN - when do u hope to announce the strategy mr bush?
chimp - when I get the reportS.
bush has no intention of reading the ISG Report
omg, boosh just called the british reporter a lad.
Blair said you’ve made a fan, it’s been a very long time since someone called him that.
what an complete a** and bully– he called Webb’s son a boy, too.
chimp on CNN - we will be spending a lot of time considering the new course. (meanwhile many people are dying)
Total incoherent Bush on ISG, and Israel/Palestine, and Condi.
Politics is a classic venue for the ol Hockey analogy–”You’d better be skating to where the puck is GOING- not to where it IS.” If you’re still fighting last year’s election- yer gonna lose.
Bush knows damn well what’s in the ISG, he’s just playing possum, hoping that the whole thing will “blow over”.
He still thinks we can succeed…
How did an idiot become Prez?
Ranting and raving, he’s lost it..
I knew 79 recommendations were about 78 too many for Georgie-the-non-reader….
rwcole @ 97
Old time hockey!
twolf1 @ 90
Doesn’t surprise me. Denial and meltdown are the only two options for a narcissist facing a pimp slap. He’s trying denial, but in time he may have nothing left but meltdown.
Bush on Iran. Contrary to what Chimpy says, Baker said they were willing to talk.
The framing relative to healthcare includes:
Substituting faith-based dogma for science (affects the CDC and the FDA)
Criminalizing the mentally ill and providing over 50% of all inpatient mental health care in prisons
Describing job growth in the penal system a positive economic marker (the US has the highest incarceration rate of any Western society)
chimp on CNN - still no iran talks unless they say they stop nookulur stuff
The Sonora government? Since when has Syria been involved in Mexico?
All Clusterfuck is tryin to do today is:
1) Show up on yer TeeVee again- so that he can prove that he’s not limpin an quackin.
2) Show that Tony still loves him and that all them other things Tony was sayin about him bein a bloomin idiot were just the liberal media havin a nose bleed.
He doesn’t really give a shit what gets said beyond that.
This is incredibly embarrassing. The one thing in my mind: Bush is a total failure.
Israel/Palestine again from another British reporter.
mui @ 105
Yeah, Bush makes Blair look good
mui @ 101
Iran’s been *begging* to talk. Idiot-Boy says “after you’ve given into every one of my demands, then we’ll talk about our differences.”
(insert logic somewhere)(?)
chimp on CNN - “democracy is a defeat for them… I strongly believe that”