
The Baker-Hamilton Report calls for a reduction in troop levels to 70,000 by 2008 "subject to unexpected developments." Since the guy in charge of implementing it issued more than 750 signing statements saying why he did not have to pay attention to those laws which don't happen to strike his fancy, we're rather confident in his ability to interpet the phrase "unexpected developments" a somewhat loosely. His resolution to do exactly what he wants and nothing else can be considered a bit of a forte.
But it's also important to keep in mind that American presence in Iraq is not limited to troops. Donald Rumsfeld's legacy to the Pentagon, a key factor in its gross mismanagement, was a passion for privatization that has seen many jobs formerly performed by the military outsourced to independent contractors.
The Pentagon had estimated that there were 25,000 government contractors in Iraq, but that figure has escalated dramatically and was recently revised to 100,000 (and that's not counting subcontractors). Rumsfeld's "war on the cheap" turned out not to be so cheap; there are now 10 times the number of contractors in Iraq as were there during the Persian Gulf War. If there are 140,000 troops currently stationed in Iraq, that means the number of civilian employees there — many of them doing jobs that used to be performed by military personal (who frequently trained their replacements) — is fast approaching the number of military personnel. It's also a contributing factor to the re-enlistment problem — why would someone settle for military pay if they can get six figures for doing the same job for a private company?
As Robert Greenwald's film Iraq for Sale ably demonstrated, many of these people went overseas into dangerous jobs because they thought that in doing so they were performing valuable services for the troops and supporting their country. To date 610 have died. There may be tension between military personnel who have to risk their lives to guard these much more highly paid contractors when they don't have appropriate armor themselves, but the Iraqis don't see any difference between American military or those who work for Blackwater. They're all running around their country with guns.
Related posts:
- DPC to Continue Drive for Oversight, Accountability for Iraq and Afghanistan Contractors
- Report Confirms Poor Electrical Work by KBR Endangers US Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan
- US Contractors Held in Iraqi Jail for Green Zone Murder
- Afghanistan: 21,000 Plus 13,000 – or Plus 115,000?
- Leon Panetta: I’ve Got to Protect the Contractors from Unwarranted Invasion of Privacy





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jane!
“What About the 100,000 Contractors in Iraq?”
Put ‘em in uniform or put ‘em in jail. Goddamit!
Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war!
When we do finally start pulling out, the long remembered images of people scrambling from roof tops to get on a helicopter is going to look like a cakewalk.
Leahy!
I watched Iraq for Sale a few nights ago via Netflix. If you haven’t seen it yet, make it a point to do so.
The Gates hearings revisited: in 3 parts
We experienced a ham sandwich moment in our nation’s history yesterday although the release today of the Iraq study Group’s report has largely obscured this. Robert Gates was approved by the Senate Armed Services Committee to be the next Secretary of Defense by a vote of 21-0. What does a ham sandwich have to do with this, you ask? Well, given the choice between Donald Rumsfeld and a ham sandwich for Secretary of Defense, the sandwich probably would have been approved by the same margin.
As confirmation hearings go, the Gates proceedings did not represent any major reappearance of senatorial oversight. Gates agreed with whatever was said and the resulting contradictions in his testimony were left unquestioned. He was able to be everything to everybody by the use of a few rhetorical devices: He would have to talk to the commanders on the ground, he would look into it further, he had only read newspaper accounts, he agreed in principle, he would certainly do that if he could, etc.
So it was that he could say on winning:
In fact, he did agree to this as well.
After lunch, he still agreed but went further:
In a similar way, he was able to agree with both Senators McCain and Lieberman that more troops might be needed while at the same time opining that modest troop reductions might be in the offing. He also talked about the need to act urgently in Iraq and a timeframe of one to two years in which to see how things were developing. He talked about financial accountability and keeping on the special Inspector General Bowen for Iraq and at the same time voiced his support for numerous new and expensive weapons systems. He thought the Iraq Study Group was important but also just one report among others. He would speak his mind to the Commander in Chief but acknowledged that Bush was ultimately in charge. And so it went.
Maybe we should ask Henry Kissinger what he thinks we should do.
The Gates hearings revisited: Part 2
A confirmation hearing is only as informative as the candidate and the senators want it to be. In this one where the result was a foregone “ham sandwich” conclusion, most of the interest for me lay in assessing the performances of the questioning Senators.
John Warner may be a staid old warhorse but he did an admirable job in forcing Gates in every way, shape and form to agree to cooperate with the Committee in the future and supply all of its document requests.
Levin asked the important question “Are we winning?” but failed to follow up on Gates’s subsequent hedging. He asked an expository question on Gates and Iran-Contra but then proceeded to undercut his case by saying that Judge Walsh who had implied that Gates had lied at the time now supported his nomination and accepting a non-answer from Gates himself on the subject.
McCain blathered on about increasing troop levels but once again failed to notice that these troops simply don’t exist. Having asked his questions, he sat back quietly drooling and chewing the leg of his chair.
Kennedy I expected to be an effective questioner but he wasn’t. In the afternoon, he ran through a laundry list of issues including military commissions, Abu Ghraib, etc. but didn’t ask a specific question on any of them. Hillary Clinton asked some incisive sounding and substance lacking questions and was also a disappointment.
Although I am often skeptical of Byrd, I have to admit that his questioning was the sharpest and most focused of any Senator. He got Gates to say that an attack on Iran would absolutely be a last resort, that Gates would not support an attack on Iraq, and that neither AUMF could be used as the basis for an attack on either country. He also got Gates to admit that Osama bin Laden had always posed a much larger threat to the US than Saddam Hussein.
Just as Byrd was the most acute questioner, Lieberman has to go down as the biggest wanker. He could not stop from repeating Bush’s talking points:
Lieberman went on to say that not only might American troops have to stay but their numbers be increased showing he suffers from the same dementia as his good friend John McCain.
Spotlight-worthy, without question. With more than 100,000 non-troops in Iraq, a quarter-million Americans will need evacuation when this thing goes south. Not to mention the American-supportive Iraqis who’ll need transport outta there or face certain death.
Is there an evac plan, or will Gates need to ask for one to be developed after he starts work at Defense — once Rummy beats the McNamara tenure record later this month?
Any word yet on which two brave Senators voted NO on Gates?
Troops
Home
NOW
… and Jane !!
Everythingseemssoneat @ 9
Bomb Cambodia?
This whole issue of privatization has come up in this administration, but it’s been going on with a vengeance since the Reagan years.
Now, here’s the thing that bugs me. Not once in that time has a comprehensive study been done to determine if privatization actually saves any money.
Here’s a clue as to why–the inability of the Pentagon to do adequate accounting and contract due diligence has gotten worse the more the system has become privatized. The Pentagon now hires outside firms to make contract determinations in privatized contracts….
Hugh @ 10
One can only assume he’s prepping to run as vice president again — with McCain. Or as a Republican presidential candidate..?
twolf1 @ 7
My dad watched it with me last week…
This was the third time I watched it…
We were both fuming mad in the end!
TSF:
Santorum and Bunning voted no.
I want to know who didn’t vote at all.
The Gates hearings revisited: Part 3
When the astute Gates pushed the bipartisan button Lieberman was off to the races:
Now all this hand grasping aside, it is still useful to remember before the media and the Liebermans wipe it from our minds that Iraq occurred under a Republican President and a Republican dominated House and Senate. It was and is a Republican war and while bipartisanship is all nice and good it should not be used for such gratuitous CYA.
Several Republican Senators vied for the goofiness prize. So grateful for the cover of bipartisanship extended by Lieberman, Sessions upped the ante on him and called for a tripartisan foreign policy. He defended torture by denying it. He warned of a prison gap in Iraq and that we should build more prisons there. He was also big on missile defense. I think his reasoning was that it was a big expensive program so who cares if it works. Only Talent with Thune bringing up a distant third viewed the Pentagon so strongly as an endless source of pork. These are guys who would be willing to buy a pocketknife for the national defense but only if it cost a $1 billion or more. There were some differences among these Republicans. Sessions is paranoid about the Russians while Inhofe looks under his bed each night to make sure no Chinese submarines have surfaced there or hacked his pillow. Even with all this greed and dimwittedness special mention does need to go to Senator Cornyn for the most insane statement of the day when he worried about Iran annexing Iraq. Lindsay Graham who can make even blithering idiots look deep did inadvertently one good question. He wanted to know if Gates supported the Powell Doctrine. I thought it very telling that Gates hedged on this.
Other highlights:
To Reed’s question about whether Iraq was in civil war, Gates replied that it was “complex”. No sh*t, Sherlock.
Dole liked Rumsfeld’s force transformation and modular brigades. No one pointed out that this was a force structure singularly poorly adapted to situations like Iraq.
Nelson of Florida asked about a draft. Gates said no and that troop levels would be maintained through retention. Good luck with that, you’ll need it.
To Thune’s question about politicization of intelligence, Gates promised to be good but he may have had his fingers crossed.
To Dayton’s, “Knowing what we know about WMD was invading Iraq the right decision?” Gates left that to the historians, no doubt because it was so “complex”.
As for key mistakes, Gates mentioned disbanding the army, de-Baathification, and not realizing how broken Iraq was. This last reason fits in with the current Friedmanesque argument that Bush never broke and so owned Iraq. See it already was broke, y’all. There were other questions and questioners but they were even more forgettable.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12…..1&_r=1
Gates was confirmed by the whole Senate today 95-2.
I am just about convinced that Lieberman is in reality a foreign agent. Stranger things have happened.
Montag @ 14
If the contractors are getting paid a lot more than the military (as reported), and given the overhead on contracts is anywhere from 20 to 35% (in my own experience as a non-defense contractor), there’s a lot of money going out that rathole, more than if we simply paid the military decent money and didn’t hire contractors.
TeddySanFran @ 11
I don’t know if I’d exactly call Santorum and Bunning “brave”…
After all, they voted against Gates because he wants to “negotiate with the enemy”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 18
I entertain a lovely fantasy in which Lieberman (Conn.– LFL) runs with McCain under the rubric of bi-partisanship and GORE wins the White House.
santorum is still yak yak yackity yacking away on cspan2
The nonvoters on the Gates nomination were:
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Dole (R-NC)
Both Bayh and Dole voted for Gates in committee.
BTW, it was TSF who brought the WaPo article to my attention. Belated hat tip.
twolf1 @ 22
Spam, spam, spam…
Spam, spam, spam…
Spam, spam, spam…
Santorum LOVES spam! : )
Hugh @ 23
I’m sure Biden and Bayh were too busy picking curtains for the Oval Office that neither of them will ever see.
Jenna shackin with an out of work truck driver she met in Iraq…
Send that Bush some condoms!!!
Bunning thought he was voting against a cheeseburger.
There are probably a lot more than 100k. A lot of the workers are poor Asians brought to Iraq by labor brokers. Just like the Mariannas; promise of a good job but a different reality.
Isn’t it interesting that the contractor # has gone from 5k to 35k to 100k. I think the 100k is about a real as the official number of Iraqi civilian deaths. If an accepted ratio of support to combat is 10/1 and if the latest troop rotation of 57k has an announced 2/1 ratio; then it doesn’t add up. I am afraid that when then shit really hits the fan; all of those third world workers in Iraq are going to be left on their own. Does anyone think when the evacuation comes that KBR is going to worry about 100k Asians?
Everythingseemssoneat @
9
Sure. And then we do the exact opposite.
rwcole @ 28
And Sanctimonious Santorum just doesn’t care. He’s killing time until the end of the week and the beginning of his long fall into obscurity.
Hugh @ 23
What? Is Dole running for the presidency, too?
rwcole @ 27
But dontcha know that ‘dem darn condoms break ALL THE TIME…
Abstenence is the ONLY WAY to keep clean and pure and wholesome and disease-free…
Wait… Jenna’s “gettin’ to know” a truck driver…
NO! How could she?
hehe ; )
Mrs. K8 @ 32
No, Banana Queen.
punaise @ 56
Funny stuff. Makes him look like Tony Franciosa in “The Drowning Pool.” :)
rwcole @ 28
That is not only extremely funny but extremely likely.
mrsmarks @ 21
I like it.
Gore/Clark. Feingold; Secretary of State. Edwards; Attorney General. Murtha; Secretary of Defense. Carter; General Counsel. Hillary Clinton; Senator from NY. In ‘08.
Thanks Hugh. i wouldn’t have had the stomach to “watch” through the proceedings, but i’m glad you did. Sad that i learned our democracy still doesn’t function. i would like to see the 30-somethings rubber stamp photoshopped in Lieberman’s mouth, but that’s only because the real photo isn’t likely to happen.
Or better yet, to use your analogy, who’s going to make the YouTube video of the Ham Sandwich being questioned and confirmed?
EvilDrPuma @ 31
HE’S STILL TALKING!
Will someone please give him some spam, and put us out of our misery?
EvilDrPuma @ 34
Sorry… I vote for CHIQUITA! : )
montag @
13
Was not a bunch of Kelly-girl auditors given the axe recently as well?
Ricky sees himself as the last brave bulwark of our “freedom.”
Now Santorum’s talking about mullahs…
Shouldn’t he join them to talk about men on dogs?
little ot
anyone have any idea what reason refucklicans Rick Santorum jim Bunning voted against gates?
atdnext @ 43
he’s a little over the 10 minute limit they set
“Pretend it does not happen”
Yes, I’d like to pretend that Sen. Santorum never stepped foot in the Senate Chambers.
as I said on the previous thread, it’s cause they hate Syria and Iran more than they love America, perris.
perris @ 44
he felt gates wouldn’t be harsh enough against ‘islamic fascists.’ he wants no negotiations with iran/syria
rwcole @
27
Linky! Linky! Please!
perris @ 44
Because (GASP!) Gates suggested that we “negotiate with our enemies instead of confront them”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 18
It’s been said that Bush’s actions in the Middle East make the most sense if you assume that he (or those controlling him) are Iranian agents. Personally, I’m more inclined to believe incompetence than malice in this case, but I’m just sayin’…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 18
the Man-Joe-rian Candidate.
perris @ 44
The Evil Gates wants to actually engage in dialogue with “Islamofascists.”
[And Iran-Contra never happened.]
But-but-but, if it’s just us and Israel against the rest of the world, what will happen to Tony Blair and John Howard? [/snark]
angie @ 47
ha, just got here, didn’t see it was part of the discussion
/gots to catch up
d r i f t g l a s s image
punaise @ 52
Yes, when he runs for President in 2008, why doesn’t he run with the Man-on-Dog Candidate?
They’re both so sanctimonious in pretending that they’re holier than all the rest of us…
And while they’re at it…
Will Holy Joe tell his friend Ricky Boy that his time’s up on the Senate Floor?
atdnext @ 43
It’s his last chance to bloviate, and he knows it. This week is it, unless he starts running fringe presidential campaigns a la Lyndon LaRouche.
Jane Hamsher @ 24
**{blush}**
Oh, and Jane, PLEASE drive carefully up there! Now that I know about those dangerous snowy roads to the Oregon coast, I worry even more about you.
punaise @ 56
707!
P J Evans @ 54
They lose in the next election.
ricky vows to confront the enemy even when he is out of office
HotFlash @ 49
Where did she meet this guy? At some truck stop? Well… they do have good burgers at truck stops. I speak from experience.
Jenna story at huffington
As he cast his vote- Bunning heard ta say:
“Don’t take me out coach- I still got good stuff”.
twolf1 @ 62
My prediction: Santorum teams up with O.J. Simpson to open the world’s least motivated detective agency and they get canceled midway through the pilot episode.
punaise @ 52
I like it.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 63
Found it!
Dumb question, but isn’t there some sort of requirement that the POTUS be mentally competent? If everyone is disagreeing with him, and he consistently claims we’re “winning” without any sort of metric – isn’t it obvious that he may be a bit off his rocker? Why haven’t they put a shrink on the tv networks and start seriously questioning his mental capabilities?
Not much snow in Oregon Ted.
good one, p-52! top five.
Montag @ 13
Remember: Capitalists are not interested in saving money. They are interested in making money. Privatization is a mechanism for making money.
Saving money is the talking point a capitalist chants in order to trick the people into opening up the pursestrings. Indeed, under privatization a lot of visible things cost less — most noticeably, labor. So people, on the losing end of that equation, tend to believe that privatization has saved money. After all, aren’t they earning less? Aren’t their benefits disappearing?
The reason contractors are making such “high” wages in Iraq is because the companies with the contracts are making, astronomically, so. much. more.
Where’s your patriotism now?
“Dealing with the pampered and effeminate Americans will be easy…”
Watcha calling us, Ricky Boy?!
We may be fruity…
We may be frilly…
But we sure as hell aren’t “pampered” brats!
Will someone please tell him to shut up now?
EvilDrPuma @ 65
The show will be sponsored by Alpo and Slice
Linkin with this laptop is near impossible- but wonkette did the piece about Jenna and the Venezualan truck driver and it’s linked at Huffington.
twolf1 @
62
How can he not? The entire rest of the world and most of his former constituents think he’s the enemy….
“This is hour that we need leadership.”
Yes! Go home, Ricky! Let Harry come in and give ‘em hell!
twolf1 @ 62
epu’d myself:
drama speak– voice lowers when he is speaking of danger. Continuously bringing up Churchill and that this… should be our finest hour.
Santorum done.
YES! YES! YES!
Santorum finally shut up!
OK, now to Durbin…
And some sanity.
DeafByPills @ 68
Amendment Double-Ex-Vee of your handy Constitution points the way (25).
My gawd its unnerving waitin’ for the ‘good stuff’ to get here. I’m talking Olbermann. I need a fix!
rwcole @ 69
There was plenty of snow where James Kim’s body was found in Oregon.
twolf1 @ 73
The show will be sponsored by Alpo and Slice
No, that’s the title of the show. It’s perfect.
TeddySanFran @ 79
You’re my new hero, Teddy. : )
twolf1 @ 62
Anybody know how to get Ricky delivered (all fired-up) to an al-Qaeda training camp?
EvilDrPuma @ 82
Funny stuff. Can’t improve on it, except to say that the likely viewership is not going be able to tell which is which….
Heroism has its price, atd!
PS i enjoy yr blog! fun and easy on the eyes….
Mrs. K8 @ 84
Extraordinary rendition? :)
angie @ 77
Nominee for Golden Jumping Shark award.
atdnext @ 78
Boy, how do you follow an act like Santorum?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 80
Yes… I want my KO!
I need some respite after seeing a whole lot of BS on the teevee today. ; )
ricky vows to confront the enemy even when he is out of office
“An Army of One”
montag @ 87
I like it.
Although, you’d think Little Ricky wouldn’t need it — he’d be rarin’ to go! Somebody needs to point him in the right direction…and tell him that he’ll be an islamofascist-fightin’ hero at the end of the day.
What is this about her meeting him in Iraq? Ya’ll are on the pipe!
rwcole @
64
TeddySanFran @ 86
Thank you, Teddy. I consider that quite an honor coming from you…
And while we’re at it, got any ideas on a new post tonight? [hehe ; ) ]
Jenna and the unemployed Argentinian truck driver. Could this be love? Will she bring him home to meet Grandma Babs?
How about 10 kids killed today in Iraq and it’s just a blip on the radar?
atdnext @ 94
My God.
Aren’t there Churchill descendants who can issue cease-and-desist orders to these armchair “heroes” like Ricky who misuse his good name?
Surely those strict British libel and slander laws could be put to good use here.
raven @ 93
No, we’re in the tubes.
Jenna story on Wonkette
Grandma Babs doesn’t want an insurgent in that Bush!
I posted this earlier, right after the ISG report was released, and then had to run out all day with The Kid. In the report, the commission gives a description of the current state of affairs. They describe the US military forces present in Iraq, and then add the following paragraph [pp.5-6]:
Every estimate I’ve seen – from the adminstration to NGOs, from the right and from the left – puts the number of civilian contractors at least 5 times that high. A recent WaPo story says the Pentagon is conducting a census of the contractors, but there is little breakdown by country of origin. The overall estimate, according to the Pentagon, is north of 100,000 – not including subcontractors! From the WaPo last Monday:
So where did Baker/Hamilton get the 5000 number?
raven @ 96
Thanks, raven…
Isn’t it sad that while we’ve been talking about new strategies for Iraq, more of our brave men and women die for Bush’s failed foreign policy. : (
Mrs. K8 @ 92
It was something like ten years ago that Santorum was listed as the #1 dimmest bulb in all of Congress. From what I’ve read here today, he’s just proved that he hasn’t learned a thing in that ten years. He may actually be backsliding some. :)
But, if runnin’ your mouth is considered heroic (and in the `pug party, it is), Santorum is a colossus.
HotFlash @ 41
I’m pretty sure any doubts that privatization LOOSES money are dispelled through the fine efforts of haliburton
The Bush family does seem to be getting… well… rather South American lately. Rather, rather. Don’t you think?
twolf1 @ 99
After the pilot for “Alpo and Slice,” I think there’s room here for a reworking of “Evita.” Imagine…Babs singing a stirring refrain of “Don’t Cop a Feel, Argentina….”
in addition, I would like everyone to start calling “privatization” the much more appropriate term, which is “fascism”
that’ll get EVERYONE off the notion
Argentinian dude can get a job on the Paraguayan spread.
This post gives a whole new meaning to the “all volunteer” army doesn’t it?
These corporations are hiring mercenaries who then hire slave laborers and holding them hostage, in effect.
I really don’t like what we’ve become.
twolf1 @ 62
Leave No Dog Behind
“This Senate will be a lesser body without Rick Santorum…”
Yes, Sen. DeWine…
Perhaps the Senate will be a little less sanctimonious and… and… well, crazy, without Santorum.
; )
OT: Don’t ask me why I’m watching Tucker Carlson, but he was just interviewing a rightwing guy who was organizing an effort to tell Americans how dangerous it would be to have
a womanHillary Clinton as President. The guy was incoherent, but Tucker asked the guy what he thinks of Bill — and the end of the conversation the guy says nobody would trust their 20 year old daughter with Bill, but everyone loves him anyway. To which tucker responds, “I wouldn’t even trust my 8-year old daughter with him.” So I guess Tucker (and MSNBC) thinks it’s okay to accuse a Bill Clinton of being a suspected pedophile.We’ll hear more about that one.
Next?
OK, I’ve read it twice but I am pretty dumb, where does it say she met him in Iraq?
atdnext @ 98
scarecrow @ 111
I’m guessing that Olbermann will hear about it. We may see Bowtie Boy making an appearance as “Worst Person in the World.”
I’m afraid we ain’t seen nuthin yet.
atdnext @ 101
zig alert
punaise @ 115
I saluted you when you first posted. Wasn’t me.
punaise @ 107
Is there oil in Paraguay? Or is it just sentimentality, like in ‘Don’t cry for me Paraguay’?
Mrs K8,
Tell him they taste like chicken.
There is no limit.
They are directly responsible for Dale Earnharts death.
(Stolen from the internets)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 117
Someone should tell Chimpy that Paraguay was discovered by a gay male couple.
TeddySanFran @
79
As you read the text of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment, please note what would happen in the event of presidential incapacity (my emphasis):
Oklahoma kiddo @ 117
No oil.
Just the largest fresh water aquifer in the hemisphere. And right next door to a couple million acres owned and developed into a spiffy compound by the fascist Reverend Moon.
Mrs. K8 @ 121
Well now… that does put a different complexion on the matter. Instead of oil tankers, water tankers.
Cesar Milan for president.
Here comes O’Connor’s smackdown of the media on msnbc.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @
120
So it wouldn’t be within the realm of possibility to have both the POTUS and VPOTUS declared mentally unfit to discharge the duties of their office; and hand it over to the Speaker of the House?
angie @ 108 That about sums it up. A year or so ago, four workers from Nepal were captured and killed. A reporter looked into the question of “what the hell are men from Nepal doing in Iraq”? The answer was the same story. Labor broker in Nepal..good, high paying job for Americans in Iraq. Families pooled resources and signed notes to guarantee the 3k fee to send son to Iraq. Son is killed, families are SOL for the 3k dollars.
There are supposed to be international laws for this type of job situation, including death insurance. But KBR et al exempted since they used a labor broker, etc., etc. You get the picture. I think the pay for these contract workers is about 45 cents/hour.
Paraguay, a lot of water, next door to Bolivia, with a lot, and I mean a lot of Natural Gas.
This privatization/fascism model shows why attention to labor issues is crucial if we are going to reclaim American-style democracy from international corporatism.
Starting with Reagan breaking the air traffic controllers’ union, corporatists have been seeding the underlying assumptions we all live by with the notion that working people are lazy and undeserving and incompetent (except for when they, themselves need a firefighter or a police officer).
A nation of insecure, underpaid, overworked people cannot maintain the basic human dignity necessary to sustain a vibrant democracy. They become susceptible to the cult of personality (how else could a nothing like George W. Bush become President of the United States?) and easy to manipulate.
The tagline for that funky and fun new series Heroes is Save the cheerleader. Save the world. The tagline for the United States should be Save Labor. Save the country.
On the number of contractors, here’s something from and 2004 interview by Gwen Ifill:
Contractors face Iraq combat
The question, however, seems to relate to the number of civilian contractors performing security/military type roles, not the total number of contractors.
OK Kiddo –
No kidding, Kiddo. And it’s right in that tri-country border area of Paraguay where there’s a gigantic U.S. airstrip (the existence of which the State Dept disputed until the evidence was overwhelming).
Somebody is still not getting the message:
Bush today:
From the ISG report:
Hugh @ 131
Guess who hasn’t read and isn’t going to read the report….
DeafByPills @ 125
IIRC, that came up when there was a rumour of JFK being comatose or brain-dead but not dead. If the Prez is in no shape to ‘transmit a written declaration’, then…? Talk of amending Constitution at the time, seems nothing happened, tho.
What is it about Bushies and Moonies?
Anyone know how many of those 100,000 are um, soldiers of fortune?
montag @ 132
damn thing is too slim to make a good doorstop
I remember when Reagan was clearly “not there”, who knows how many years he was deep into Alzheimer’s while supposedly “making decisions”. I think the same cabal of handlers were around to make decisions for him then. Baker prominent among them.
There never was any questioning about his obvious shortcomings. It wouldn’t be civil.DeafByPills @ 68
Hugh @ 131
I said this on a previous thread.
they are telling the president that he need to have a cup of shut the fuck up.
“you cannot cherry pick, you cannot even think about thinking, you cannot get your neo cons to pick what they like about this”
in other words;
“have a nice cup of shut the fuck up”
punaise @ 136
Bush himself isn’t fit to be a doorstop.
Mrs. K8 @ 130
(((; Oh these Bush boys and girls, sharpies and harpies one and all. Merry Christmas, Mrs. K8! You da best. ;)))
punaise @ 136
And not thick enough to let him sit at the grown-ups table.
Steve Bell captures the whole ISG report in one cartoon.
Mrs. K
Oregon and snow- yeah there was some snow down south where the guy died—but the stretch west of the Willamette Valley doesn’t have much at all. There are some fairly low mountains between the valley and the coast that sometimes get a dusting-but for the most part Western Oregon is pretty snow free-
When you get to the Cascades it’s a different story..
(My home state)
montag @ 139
check out watertiger’s take on the slim volume here:
http://www.dependablerenegade……_fo_1.html
LindaR @ 128
You said it! Amen!
And we need a new FDR for a new century.
One thing I’ve been saying for years now is that we will need a network of labor organizations which are TRULY INTERNATIONAL in scope.
Otherwise every new third world country to break into the so-called “free trade” bonanza will just find themselves being the latest scabs in the drive to the bottom of the labor pool.
Of course the fascists will call any international labor organization “terrorist.”
JBO @ 135..I believe the 70,000 armed mercenaries in Iraq are in-addition to the (IMHO very low) 100,000 estimate of contract workers.
rwcole @ 134
Mutual love of power, money, fascism.
Harry @ 127
Ah, the Bush puzzle is beginning to take form.
Mrs. K8 @ 145
you know, the old Wobblies are still at it.
Mrs. K8 — absolutely.
raven @ 114
I’ve got a new post on my blog…
And no, it isn’t about Jenna Bush…
I’m sorry… I don’t see the Iraq connection either…
But I’m talking about Iraq.
They’re all loony?
rwcole @ 143
Agreed! The coast only rarely gets snow, just rain, rain, and more rain. You must be used to dampness by now.
BTW, a question — what are the suspected future effects of global warming/climate change on the Northwest?
Olbermann soon now. I shake, I sweat, I quiver.
SusanD @ 152
Or Shakesperean?
On pages 62-63 of the ISG report is a list of the milestones. This is a timetable whatever it is called and may be the most important part of the document because it gives dates.
NATIONAL RECONCILIATION
By the end of 2006–early 2007:
Approval of the Provincial Election Law and setting an
election date
Approval of the Petroleum Law
Approval of the De-Baathification Law
Approval of the Militia Law
By March 2007:
A referendum on constitutional amendments (if it is necessary)
By May 2007:
Completion of Militia Law implementation
Approval of amnesty agreement
Completion of reconciliation efforts
By June 2007:
Provincial elections
SECURITY (pending joint U.S.-Iraqi review)
By the end of 2006:
Iraqi increase of 2007 security spending over 2006 levels
By April 2007:
Iraqi control of the Army
By September 2007:
Iraqi control of provinces
By December 2007:
Iraqi security self-reliance (with U.S. support)
GOVERNANCE
By the end of 2006:
The Central Bank of Iraq will raise interest rates to 20
percent and appreciate the Iraqi dinar by 10 percent to
combat accelerating inflation.
Iraq will continue increasing domestic prices for refined petroleum
products and sell imported fuel at market prices.
Mrs. K
Don’t know. I left Oregon 30 years ago and only go back in the summer. I’m in the San Diego area now.
HotFlash –
Thanks for the Wobblies link! Wow. Such a rich tradition.
If they get popular again, we can expect them to be demonized. The Ghost of A.G. Palmer still walks.
rwcole @ 157
He only comes back to rust.
SusanD @ 152
With all of them on ranches in Paraguay, that would be “loonies in the boonies.”
HotFlash @
149
They’re great. Workers of the World Unite!
atdnext @ 151
routine maintenance to trim a burgeoning ziggurat
montag @ 160
The right-wing version of a “terrorist training camp.” Genuine fascists.
rwcole @ 157
My daughter, THE Princess, lives in La Jolla.
Mrs. K8 @ 158
Apparently, the union success in Houston had a lot to do with sympathetic actions by workers in other countries where the involved companies had hotels. Workers of the world, unite! indeed!!
Oh how I love La Jolla and P.B. and San Diego in general…
Can we count on your Princess to decimate Dunkin’ Hunter, OK?
Kiddo
That’s the right place for a Princess!
I used to live in PB- one block from the La Jolla zip code–My neighbor spent 20 hours a week on a mission to get the zip code changed- thinking it would double his property value- I imagine he’s still at it.
rwcole @ 134
Dontchyaknow?
He was crowned King by Congress
Creepy video here
rwcole @ 167
oh, yeah . . . I lived in Pacific Beach a million years ago when I was a little girl. You could see the ocean from my dad and stepmom’s apartment. Our babysitter would take us down to the beach every day, first crossing the rocky part where all the crabs could get you, and then on to the sandy part. Life was so simple then, all I worried about was when I’d get to go back home to my mom’s house at the end of summer.
rwcole @ 168
heehee.
PB was lots of fun and I loved their bejeweled street names!
Agate, Beryl, Chalcedony, Diamond, Emerald, Felspar, Garnet, Hornblend, Opal, Sapphire, Tourmaline, and Turquoise.
Chalcedony!
Maybe Moon is the anti-christ..Thought it was Clusterfuck fer a while- but he’s too STUPID
LindaR –
Oh my! I did NOT know that aspect of the Houston battle. Do you have a link or know where to send me looking?
That’s such great news.
Isn’t it interesting that the most creative new stirrings in the labor movement are, in fact, updating the very best of the “old days”?
This is key, IMO.
We have a very, very rich tradition in terms of the battles we’ve fought (and won) before. We need to link to the best in our history — and educate our fellow Americans about that history.
They surely aren’t being taught about it in schools any more.
BTW — The place to go for the latest in the schemes and machinations of the evil Moon & Co. (and they are creepier and more alarmingly effective than you’d ever imagine) is John Gorenfeld’s website –
http://www.gorenfeld.net/
Gorenfeld is a hero, investigating these thugs. They hate, hate, hate him. He’s both courageous and tenacious.
Lesser known recommendations from the ISG report
A slight edit –
The address I gave for John is his main one — the one devoted to tracking down Rev Moon’s plans and schemes and tactics is this one –
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/
It’s linked to from the main website, but if you just want Moon info, this is the direct way to get the latest.
Mrs. K8 @ 173
Mrs. K8, see number 4 in the list in this story.
The will be a regional war in the Middle East. The U.S. government started it. And from whence this war spreads…
The real suffering is yet to begin.
Come on, you make it sound like it was the garden of eden. They’ve been killing each other since long before we got there.
Oklahoma kiddo @
178
new thread
Thank you, Linda!
Off to go read the link, and the link within the link. Here’s hoping we see more of this in the days to come.
Mrs. K8 @
181
I might have screwed that up — try this link. Particularly:
new thread
raven @ 179
‘They’ may have been killing each other long before we got there. Not with nuclear weapons though.
raven @ 179
well, the garden of eden was there if one believes in such a garden and it was decidedly not here in the west and I would argue that the western interference, greed, desire for dominance and for resources certainly has caused most of the bloodshed.
and our very young country has surely done plenty of killing…
punaise @ 162
Sorry, punaise!
I was so in the moment…
I forgot to watch the growing Tower of Babble.
; )
raven @ 179
Ahhh ya right. It’s OK then, what’s another 2 megatons of explosives on Baghdad durning shock and awe… They would all die eventually, anyways.
When I heard Lee Hamilton include this in his comments today on NPR, I shouted to the radio “waffle!” (Well, not really, but I’m cleaning up my language for this comment). This was about #4 in a string of ifs/ands/buts opportunities for waffling out for a Chimp who’s going to do as he pleases, regardless. Worthless.
Hamilton — the same Democrat who failed us on the 911 Commission. Democrats have got to do better than this.
As late as I am on this thread, I highly recommend Iraq for Sale, it’s done very well. It’s honest, it’s infuriating, and it needs to be seen by all.
There’s one figure that is never mentioned by the Bush administration (or apparently in the Baker/Hamilton report: how many support/private contractor personnel are there in Kuwait?
In other words, the support/private contractor personnel in Kuwait are just as much a part of the total count as those support/private contractor personnel located within Iraq, but they aren’t being counted.
My guess?
The total number of support/private contractor “outsourced” personnel is two to three times the number of troops we have deployed in Iraq.
I presume Democratic Party chairpeople in Congress will get to the truth starting in January. Enough Bush administration deception. American citizens deserve the truth.
I want more of us to examine an overlooked and alarming section of the Baker-Hamilton report that is not only disturbing but that helps explain bush’s strange deer in the headlights obsession with staying the course.
Although Baker et al went light on how we can get out of Iraq now, they did manage to fledge out a concrete strategy for privatizing Iraqi oil fields. Gee wonder who that would benefit? And wonder if Baker and friends could possibly have interests, or ties to, the oil industry or possibly even Halliburton? Could someone on the report team served on any relevant company boards, or could someone have deeply vested interests and ties with the oil giants? Maybe someone’s legal firm has represented oil giants for decades? That Virginia would be a big, fat yes on all counts.
So just maybe bush keeps repeating his bleak, weak we stay in Iraq till we win tirades because it’s just a ruse to buy time, to distract us for long enough to get those oil contracts sewed up for bush’s petroleum pals. He’s buying time for his buddies: the longer we stay in Iraq, the better the rape and pillage of Iraqi resources for the Houston bunch. The more he bleats innane and amazingly stupid pronouncements, the more we’re forced to discuss them and the less time we have to see the real issue here — OIL — same ol same ol. It’s about the oil stupid. Big oil’s immoral profits for the very few bought by the many of us and Iraqis and paid in blood, ours and theirs.
Let’s pull this ugly greedy thing out from under its rock and into a national discussion. Let’s hear it debated on Countdown. Please, let’s wake up.
I’m not going to dig through 190 messages to find out but…. the thing about these mercenaries that is never talked about is their position outside of the law. No wonder Rummy loved ‘em, they can commit what even this administration would have to admit are “war crimes” and walk away scott free, unlike (theoretically) US soldiers. If the troop levels are forced down by public discontent (doubtful…this administration simply doesn’t give a shit) you can pretty much assume that the number of US mercs will go up. I’m somewhat of a “gun nut” and so I’m on all kinds of weapons-related catalog lists. One thing that has become “in-your-face” about all of these gear selling companies is that their market is nearly completely made up now of mercs, buying up every little gadget and doo-dad that is built to foster some psychmacho dream of the hyperwarrior. It doesn’t matter how much it costs, it will sell if there’s a picture of some cammy painted paramilitary type wearing it/holding it/ shooting it. The merc market has become gigantic (Blackwater has it’s own gear-making company that sells to “independent” psychos) and the catalogs have become part of the government propaganda campaign, focused on shifting the american hunter subculture towards “human hunting”. You can’t imagine how intense it has become unless you see a few of these publications yourself. Considering the sociopaths that glom onto this kind of imagery, one can only wonder at what is and will be taking place in our name and how this is going to affect the reputation of the U.S. worldwide in the days to come.