
– Bob Geiger has some fantastic editorial cartoons assembled this morning. See which ones make you laugh out loud.
– This is freaking hilarious. This talk radio host punked his anti-Muslim listeners, and taught a few of them a valuable lesson. (Found this via this DKos diary.)
– Via the CarpetBaggerReport, this just doesn't sound all that bi-partisan to me.
– Eleanor Clift takes on the Washington Manners Enforcement clique — and calls bullshit:
A quirky individualist who wants no part of the phony collegiality of Washington, Webb was rightly insulted when Bush pressed him in that bullying way—“That’s not what I asked you”—trying to force the conversation back to Webb’s son. Webb could have asked how the Bush girls are doing, partying their way across Argentina. He could have told Bush he was worried about his son; the vehicle next to him was blown up recently, killing three Marines. Given the contrast between their respective offspring, Webb showed restraint….
But that’s not how much of official Washington reacted. Columnist George F. Will was the most offended, declaring civility dead and Webb a boor and a “pompous poseur.” Were the etiquette police as exercised when Vice President Dick Cheney told Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy to perform an anatomically impossible act on the Senate floor? Or is that amusing by Washington’s odd standards?…
Symbols matter. Bush certainly understands their importance, or he wouldn’t have jetted onto that carrier in a flight suit and stood in front of a banner that proclaimed MISSION ACCOMPLISHED more than a thousand days and thousands more deaths ago. A president snubbed by a junior senator-elect and then, more tellingly by the puppet prime minister in Iraq, should be wondering where he went wrong, not the other way around.
It’s justice long overdue for a president who has so abused the symbols of war to get his comeuppance from a battlefield hero who personifies real toughness as opposed to fake toughness. Bush struts around with this bullying frat-boy attitude, and he gets away with it because nobody stands up to him. Bush could have left Webb’s initial response stand, but no, he had to jab back—“That’s not what I asked you.” Webb is not one to be bullied. He knows what real toughness is, and it’s not lording it over people who are weaker than you, and if you’re president, everybody by definition is weaker.
The fact that Webb went out of his way to avoid a face-to-face with Bush that might lead to some sort of discussion like this, and that Bush sought him out — and then got snotty when he should have just walked away — has been the subject of…well, pretty much no news discussion up to this point. Thanks to Clift for bringing that aspect of the story to the fore.
– Which leads me to a fantastic article that Dan Froomkin did for the Neiman Watchdog site.
Calling bullshit, of course, used to be central to journalism as well as to comedy. And we happen to be in a period in our history in which the substance in question is running particularly deep. The relentless spinning is enough to make anyone dizzy, and some of our most important political battles are about competing views of reality more than they are about policy choices. Calling bullshit has never been more vital to our democracy.
It also resonates with readers and viewers a lot more than passionless stenography. I’m convinced that my enthusiasm for calling bullshit is the main reason for the considerable success of my White House Briefing column, which has turned into a significant traffic-driver for The Washington Post’s Web site….
But here’s the good news for you newsroom managers wringing your hands over new technologies and the loss of younger audiences: Because the Internet so values calling bullshit, you are sitting on an as-yet largely untapped gold mine. I still believe that no one is fundamentally more capable of first-rate bullshit-calling than a well-informed beat reporter – whatever their beat. We just need to get the editors, or the corporate culture, or the self-censorship – or whatever it is – out of the way.
Amen. Here's hoping a few of those newsroom management types read this — and then really think about implementing some of his suggestions. Great food for thought here.
– Spot-on snark from Atrios this morning:
CNN sez 38 people dead in car bomb attack.
Still, what's really important is making sure that no one criticizes the people responsible for this catastrophe. That would be partisan!
Especially now that estimates on deaths are moving upward from this coordinated bomb attack.
– Via an e-mail from Siun (who got the link from MFI, if I'm not mistaken), I found this UNHCR summary update on Iraq. Devastating.
– Digby. Just read it.
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FITZ!
FITZ, Jane, Christy, TRex, Pach!
Ambassador Joe Wilson to Answer Questions on Iraq at FDL
Be here or be square!
Webb has a spine! Thank you Ms. Clift.
anyone of the yahoos calling foul on Jim Webb can just…….
STFU!
and Prager? liar, scumbag and rabble-rouser of hatespeak– need I go on?
Oh, and I meant to remind everyone that Bill Scher of Liberal Oasis will be our guest for tomorrow’s Book Salon. Should be a great chat — so please join in the fun!
Calling bullshit…I like the sound of it.
Sorta like ACCOUNTABILITY!
G’mornin’ all.
Jesus’ General’s take on this story: Mrs. Malkin’s America
WARNING, the General and his commenters are
undiluted200 proof political satire, newbies beware:Yeah, Christy, a couple of laugh-out-louds from Geigers cartoon corral and one laugh out loud while cringing. My neck hurts.
I’m so bummed I will miss Ambassador Wilson’s guest turn. Dang this working anyway.
twolf1 — Thanks for the info you gave me last thread. I’m going to try that.
Marion in Savannah @ 9
No problem.
One of my favorite lines about Bush was from his Yale classmate Garry Trudeau. “Too much noblesse,” he said at a talk at UCLA a few months ago, “and not enough oblige.”
Fundamentally, though, Bush is a coward – happy to use his office to bully people. Nice that someone isn’t taking it.
John Casper @ 7
A good hit from the General, although Klein doesn’t exactly need any help in the satire department.
This is one of the First Amendment’s hidden perks, and wingnuts rarely see it: free speech helps get the loons you need to watch out into the open where you can see them. Suppression drives them into the shadows.
Sometimes the emperor must be told forcefully that he has no clothes.
Good on the senator (gonna be fun watching him work!) and Ms Clift.
After the bullshit she has waded thru on the talk shows, I hope she serves up a polite but firm “toldjaso” every chance she gets.
mc @
6
Yeah – accountability: what a concept!
Will we ever be rid of the dumbitocracy? ..these framers for the corporate national security paranoia state?
My least favorite is probably that fake Tom Friedman…or his evil twin BoBo… Can you decide which bloviator pisses you off the most?
Let’s hear it for your best (worst) bloviator)?
Wouldn’t any other president (pick one) have answered Webb’s response about bringing his son home with “I’m working on it.” (?) Or something like that to diffuse the situation with a diplomatic answer.
Why do we have a president who can’t even do east room diplomacy – much less global diplomacy?
How can we stand two more years of this ying yang?
All the blue ribbom commissions and grand strategy ideas in the world are not going to make any foreign leader listen to a word this administration says. He’s lost any ounce of credibility he ever had.
diogenes @ 13
Washington “civility” is often a sham anyway, and the Republicans have barely tried to maintain the pretense since 1994. Moments like the Bush-Webb exchange and Cheney telling Leahy what to do to himself actually become refreshing, because they reveal the players for what they really are.
Friedman pisses me off more than just about anybody just because the asshats hold him in such high esteem.
ReddHedd !!
Peanut !
I don’t know what the Webb incident did to the chattering classes in the beltway, but my respect for him has grown considerably since he called Bush a jerk in front of the Freshman Class.
BTW.
My Holiday Activism drive is going well. The Christmas Card To The World has been downloaded almost 1000 times so far. Hope it makes a difference.
What struck me about Bush’s interaction with Webb was how Bush clearly thinks he’s not only the Decider when it comes to inflicting really bad policies on the country and the world, but he is also the Decider when it comes to what people can talk about, even with regard to their own children.
That he doesn’t have the shame to NOT ask how someone’s “boy” is doing in that mess he’s created is only more proof of how deluded he is.
good morning, all!
sorry I’m late…
lina @ 16
I think your second paragraph answers the question in the first. We can stand two more years because the ying yang in question has reduced himself to near irrelevancy. He’s trapped in the hole he dug. He’s lightly browned and will shortly scorch. Nobody listens to his nonsense any more.
Good on Elenor Clift. I think Colbert and K.O. have started something small, that will continue to grow.
Finally a few voices are breaking through to publicly say what an intellectual light-weight, frat-boy bully we have as a President.
This drip, drip, drip from the corporate media will increase to a steady stream.
You see, people vote for news as well, through a pleboscite vote. Ratings matter. Of course, die-hard rightards know how to counter this by contacting advertisers demanding they pull support from such outrageous anti-merkin hacks.
And the fight goes on…
Danbury @ 21
He also mistakenly thinks people like him
Danbury @ 21
On the brighter side, last month’s election shows just how much anybody is listening to the Bush-enabling pundit class. If the chatterboxes want to keep their wagons hitched to this team, they’re just going to go over the same cliff.
EvilDrPuma @ 26
Sorry for any confusion. I meant this as a reply to Subway Serenade’s post @ 20. Stupid me hit the wrong “Quote This Comment” link.
Love Bob Geiger. Be sure to click through on the animation offering at the bottom of his list.
707
PS Hummingbird’s back!
Ya can sum up the interaction between Bush an Webb thusly:
“How’s the wife an kids”
“I hate yer policy”
“I don’t give a shit- I’m the decider and I decide what we talk about here”
“Go fuck yerself”
That’s about the size of the thing- no big deal really.
At a corporate cocktail party the Webb/Clusterfuck interaction wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow- it’s what high testosterone guys DO when they get around one another.
rwcole @ 29
A democrat with an obvious spine is a HUGE deal.
707, rwcole!
(anyone of us would have done the same if we had a loved one fighting in bushco’s massacre.)
Good morning pups -
It’s cold for us here in SF, with clear skies, and inversion, and a “spare the night air” request not to use our fireplaces. Brr. Nights in the 40’s.
Today I heard Scott Simon and Daniel Schorr on NPR give the Rovian spin on Bush/Webb:
1) Bush approached Webb in reception line.
2) Bush solicitously asks about Webb’s son.
3) Webb sez none of your beeswax.
I guess Scott and Dan are too busy on the weenie circuit to read even MSM.
[On ATC on Friday, an “expert” from the Lexington Institute was in full-spittle mode, outraged that his fellow neo-cons were abandoning Emperor Bush, rather than opting for permanent occupation of Iraq.
This was a commenter, not an interviewee.
Odd - I don’t recall when National Pentagon Radio has given ATC commenter slots to guests calling for permananent non-intervention - the end of US Empire.]
I love Eleanor, but as a commenter pointed out to me when I suggested an appropriate twins comeback, the supposed dinner was a week or two before the Argentina tour.
Nevertheless, the Dunce King deserves what he got. Imagine Lincoln or FDR saying “that’s not what I asked” to a GI parent…
RE: Klein’s Islamophobia parody: of course, it’s not like the U.S. is a paragon of minority relations.
Actually, if you read further, there are other forms of what I would call serious police unfunnyness in the same segment. These guys did not care if their hijinks looked good.
What Bush should have said was “I unnerschtan, that’s what I am trying to do,” and left Webb alone.
G’mornin’ -
Sittin’ here wonderin’ what my aviation Terrorism Score is. Wonder if it’s inversely correlated with my FICO.
But, then, y’know, I usually sit in aisle seats. (Shit, I’m goin’ to Boston Tuesday, and then Florida right before Christmas, aisle seats all.)
But, I have never flown one-way, never paid cash for a ticket.
_
Stop calling him ‘frat boy.’
I prefer:
Scared, lonely bully with capacity to do a global columbine.
(where’s Monica? She’s got a weakness for power and a little face-time w/Dubya might save the world.)
Bobby–793
rwcole @ 39
LOL!!!
You mean it’s positively correlated with my FICO (>800)? Oh, crap!
_
rizbiz at 38 — I didn’t call him a fratboy. Eleanor Clift did — see above.
Circumventing the 1978 FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) to engage in illegal surveillance of people residing within the United States since 9/11/2001 without judicial review, in *direct* conflict with the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, and therefor an impeachable offence. (Note: during the 2004 campaign, Bush *specifically* addressed “roving wiretaps” as part of the Patriot Act and defended them on the grounds that they were still required obtaining a warrant.)
Amendment 4 – Search and Seizure
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Notes for this amendment: Proposed 9/25/1789
Ratified 12/15/1791
The Clusterfuck/Webb confrontation is probably the tamest war in political history- no one even pushed anyone—We’re gettin suckered here. No harm no foul- play ball!!!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 41
maybe we should just drop the ‘f’ ?
mrJJ @ 42
An attorney friend of mine once observed “we go to law school for three years to try to learn the meaning of ‘reasonable’.”
_
James Wolcott, an extraordinary writer, out did himself with this gem of a sentence yesterday.
“So how long is Bush going to be allowed to persist in his folly, to stubbornly reiterate
his determination to see the mission through
as if he were Captain Ahab on the heaving deck?”
Good stuff.
Christy,
I called him a fratboy. Maybe the comment was directed at me. Rizbiz has a more favorite pet name, but I caution on using Columbine as a rhetorical device. Just my opinion.
Now — Webb, a boxer in the Marines, and Bush, a pretty flyboy cheerleader — I would love to see that go down.
kemo @ 48
“Pretty?”
rizbiz @
38
“Face time.” roflmao.
kemo @ 48
Pay-per-view globally. We could retire the National debt.
Oilfieldguy @ 51
oh yeah! pay per view! why didn’t I think of that?
What do we do if the total surveillance protocols are essentially legal? What if the airlines/govt terrorism score has been acquired by information we’ve consented to be used? Most privacy policies allow for use of info in many ways.
MassivelyOfT, but formy favorite SF Giants fan, punaise:I have a completely un-Romantic fantasy about what George Bush would say to Pat Tillman’s brother
Thanks old gold, love the Ahab reference.
rumi @ 53
The Bush DOJ will surely construe such uses in the aggregate as equivalent to the “in plain view” exception to the 4th.
What’s even worse is the reports that the feds are then sharing this “terrorism score” info with other entities, including the private sector. Kinda like how your FICO is now used in hiring decisions.
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I think it’s the other way around. There aren’t many laws that regulate the use of information gathered by the private sector to compile risk assessment. That’s where the violations (ethical) are. These companies then sell it to the govt.
Old Gold @
46
Yeah, Bush heaved his sextant over the side a long time ago; but, the difference is that Ahab was repudiating science in pursuit of a primal drive — Bush never understood the science to begin with.
{putting hand up to ask teacher a question} What’s a FICO? Please?
Marion in Savannah @ 60
Credit Bureau score. “Fair-Isaac Corporation” is the proprietary owner of the regression model used.
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they have haliburyon building the bush library
OH BABY, would I like to see how much that would cost and how little the building would actually get in return
BobbyG @ 61
Thanks!
Halliburton Wet Dream:
GSA Chief Seeks to Cut Budget For Audits
Contract Oversight Would Be Reduced
By Scott Higham and Robert O’Harrow Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, December 2, 2006; Page A01
kemo @ 34
Like the twins hadn’t already provided enough fodder prior to their Rainbow Tour of Buenos Aires!
John Casper @64
Like David Safavian? Former employee of the GSA convicted of obstruction and making false statements. Oh, yeah, way too much oversight!
Where does the Bush administration FIND these tools?
OT: This should wake up some of the sleepyheads.
What? No Medal of Honor?
Stephen Cambone resigns in Friday’s afternoon news dump.
TheOtherWA @ 66
One of the fine-print clauses in Dick Cheney’s pact with Satan permits him to reincarnate history’s most reviled and corrupt bureaucrats for use in the Bush administration employment pool. And yes, Satan does think he got a raw deal when he traded for Dick’s soul–somehow, it bears a remarkable resemblance to a lump of peat.
Cambone wikipedia not yet updated with the new news.
i did a little Spotlight action to Eleanor Clift, George Will, Daniel Schorr, and Scott Simon. Heh
EvilDrPuma @ 67
They could just recycle Tenant’s Medal of Freedom. Now that he is working on his book deals, he probably doesn’t need to melt the metal down for living expenses.
This is an example of the lines that might be crossed in legality but the private sector will need oversight/regulation as well as the govt will.
Any reports on Dick’s recent hunting trip in Florida?
This whole incident is amazing to me. Bush could have said: “I hope we can get them back here too, but I am not prepared to do so until Iraq is fully stabilized.” Something like that, but he does not have the wit to do it. He fears any kind of discussion because he has no idea what is going on (and probably because he expects that there will be U.S. troops in Iraq until the last drop of oil is gone).
rumi @ 73
more from rumi’s
link.
TeddySanFran @ 74
He’s doing a lotta hunting all of a sudden. But then, I think Cheney needs to shoot a guy in the face personally from time to time; the vicarious thrill of two failed wars just can’t keep him satisfied indefinitely.
More Friday World AIDS Day newsdump.
Excerpt:
EvilDrPuma @ 76
EvilDrPuma @ 78
He’s setting up his early departure. One day soon, it’ll be Dicky who gets shot in the face and then… graceful retreat, bye bye birdy.
Oilfieldguy @
51
Handsprings at 20 paces?
EvilDrPuma @ 78
The best thing about it, of course, is that he goes into hiding for two or three days while he sobers up and the cover-up can be finalized. During which time he can’t do any more harm to our country.
One word: Countermeasures. We ain’t lemmings, you know. The system can be punked.
TeddySanFran @
77
This is simply TIA reborn. I had a small hand in killing that POS. But, they don’t intend to quit.
I even sent the then- TIA Director John Poindexter this “fuck-you” snailmail.
Bastards.
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TeddySanFran @ 77
The advances in information data storage are incredible and will continue to grow exponentially even in the immediate future. That’s a physical reality and not much of a limitation to this sort of Orwellian proposal.
It will be the data mining algorithms, themselves, which are the most interesting aspect of these machinations. More than just the associative genius which is Google; these algorithms are some of the most advanced examples of artificial intelligence that computer scientists are working on these days. But, the machine intelligence has no soul, of course, and will only operate under the direction of its master’s wishes.
It is scary to think on. But who knows what will happen in the coming months. As the lunar cycle turns the tides of time we learn, more and more, that the moon is a harsh mistress.
What would possibly motivate HIV-poz non-citizens traveling into the USA to trust our government with their sero-status? Instead of sneaking in, without meds, and racing to the nearest pharmacy to retireve their previously phoned-in meds, non-citizens are encouraged to apply for a cumbersome, demeaning waiver, disclosing to our Federales that they are poz?
Those camps won’t fill themselves, people!
BobbyG @ 85
Not much more to say than that. BushCo has been salivating over TIA since day one, and they’ve never let little things like legality or ethics get in the way…beyond letting them determine how many layers of secrecy and obfuscation the project requires, of course.
Thanks, jS, for that excellent use of the apostrophe!
The Webb episode is not unique. I haven’t looked up the links but there was:
the time Bush wondered why a man didn’t stand when he entered the room. He was wheelchair bound.
the time Bush visited with a badly wounded soldier and talked about how he too had been wounded, clearing brush.
the time he told a widow who had lost her husband on 9/11 which was also their anniversary: Ooh, double whammy.
And of course there are all the pressers we do see and all those incoherent moments that Letterman and Leno seem to get a hold of and that we would never see otherwise.
Bonds, et al.
johnSwifty @ 86
As one who has done a ton of credit risk multiple logistic regression and CART (a.k.a. Recursive Binary Partitioning) modeling, I can tell you this: To effectively predict something (like “bad guys”) you gotta have a sufficient proportion of “bads,” which, in the case of “terrists” is vanishingly small relative to the rest of us, rendering problematic any attempt to model empirically.
But, these data warehouses do, on the other hand, provide neat-o repositories for fucking with others, e.g., domestic political opposition research, etc.
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EvilDrPuma @69
LOL!
BobbyG @ 92
Short form: BushCo will sell data mining as a countermeasure against terrorism, but will use it for political power gaming. Sounds familiar, eh?
BobbyG @ 85
Oh, freaking, absolutely fabulous! I howled. It’s a great idea, though, burying them in tons and tons of papers and receipts and travel itineraries and diary entries…
Can we institute an empathy test for Preznishul wannabes, and require that success lies between our two most recent polar extremes, Feel-your-pain Bill Clinton and How’s-your-boy Bush?
TeddySanFran @ 89
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. When in doubt, I will invariably err on the side of over punctuation; however, my wife — the educator — has managed to educate me concerning the nature of the possessive and the personal pronoun, “it.”
That’s not to say I always catch myself in it’s improper use, though.
Hey, BobbyG, given your recent involuntary exposure, do you want to scrub the top three lines of this page?
johnSwifty – here’s a follow-up to the Fox copyright fraud article you were interested in from yesterday AM:
Fake “no-linking” copyright law breaks Wikipedia
BobbyG @ 92
Absolutely! I didn’t go far enough to make this point (got lost in a lame Heinlein reference). Thank you!
BobbyG #92,
I agree when you are looking for a needle in a haystack, the first thing you don’t do is increase the size of the haystack.
A different aspect of this is the energy requirements for running a system this large. There were stories out earlier this year about how the NSA was already facing major energy consumption problems.
twolf1 @ 99
Cool, thanks. I’m gonna read and then go take the kids to Kung-Fu.
Peace, out!
TeddySanFran @ 96
Perfect.
You know I would bet a donut Webb’s son is off the front line these days, you think?
EvilDrPuma @ 94
I have to laugh bitterly at these jerk-off PhD’s in stats modeling / data mining who sell this shit to the government, basically to get gravy multi-year contracts that can’t do diddley to ferret out “terrrists,” but hold far greater potential for political and commercial misuse.
At the bank where I worked, our models had to be quickly proven to work — i.e. they had to result in significant positive ROI / ROA results within months or get tossed aside.
That’s another problem — what works in commerce doesn’t usually work in domains like counterterror modeling. At the bank, I could be “wrong” 98-99% of the time as long as the remaining 1-2% turned out to be profitable. I could effectively not give a shit about my false positives and false negatives given a sufficient ROA.
The HSA clowns don’t get this (and don’t care anyway).
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kemo @ 103
Great heartbreak for Al Gore Sr and LBJ when young Albert shipped out to VN — even though his duty was journalism within the service. For this very reason. No one wants to be treated differently than his servicemates cuzza who Dad is — ask John McCain.
TeddySanFran @ 98
That horse is WAY outa the barn. And, I’ve moved.
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kemo @ 103
Let us hope all our sons and daughters are off the front lines sooner than later.
sorry zigbusters!
Hugh @ 101
Y’see? Why, if we just had ALL of the hay, we’d know EXACTLY where the “terrists” are — they’re right there IN THE HAY!!!!
BRILLIANT!
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kemo @
103
Rice Admits Mistakes Were Made In Iraq, Won’t Say What They Were Until Bush Leaves Office
SPECIAL REQUEST TO ALL MIGHTY FIREDOGS!;
I want to start linking to gores constitutional crisis speech, NOBODY HAS IT gaw damn it!
can someone BESSECH crooks and liars to host the entire speech…PUHLEEZE!!!
it will help us draft the man we voted president in 2002 president for 2008
ET: well, how would the press deal with a shot up Webb’s son?
Troops
Home
NOW
BarbinMD provides excellent, if brief, analysis of the B/H-ISG’s mission creep, via Atrios.
perris at 112 — we’ve linked that up here a bazillion times. Let me see if I can dig up the link for you.
kemo @ 113
Interesting thought.
But, why should he be accorded any more sympathy than than “ordinary” troops? I grieve for all of them. What a criminal waste.
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Excellent comments on the TIA reincarnations. I guess it’s going to take wooden stakes and silver bullets all coated with DU to put those programs to rest.
In regard to Webb’s son, I saw elsewhere that his convoy was attacked only about a week before the Webb/Bush exchange. I guess the vehicle in front of his had 3 casualties. I wonder if that played a part in the exchange.
Douchey McCodpiece thinks that he can use Bill O’Reilly style verbal jujitsu on a Vietnam vet to force an answer to his liking.
Sorry Georgie.
Go Jim Webb.
-GSD
rumi @ 117
The new “Travel Terrorist Score” thing, BTW, is simply a reincarnation of CAPPSII. The dopey thingy they proposed that would be the equivalent of Insta-Credit, like where you go into OfficeMax and within 30 seconds, if your Bureau is OK, you get approved for a $3,000 computer system.
CAPPSII was gonna quickly “score” your terror potential at the point of sale (air travel purchase), and code you Green/Yellow/Red. Greens, go right ahead please, Yellows, please step aside for further detailed screening, Reds — no flying allowed (why they wouldn’t immediately arrest the “Reds” was left unaddressed).
Another mendacious bit of federal stupidity.
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Christy Hardin Smith @ 115
thank you so much cristy!
BobbyG—it’s nice to see you spending a little time at the Lake.
Hugh @
90
Let’s not forget getting pissy at a visually impaired reporter for not taking off his glasses and looking the King in the eyes at a presser.
-GSD
RBG @ 122
Thanks. Busy of late. Traveling a lot. I lurk often, but my life is pretty hyper these days.
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Christy — nice post. You might be interested in a different perspective on the Froomkin article, from Somerby at “The Daily Howler”
Hey all — the Blue America thread with Larry Kissell is up and running. Please stop over and wish him well — he fought a tough campaign and ended up losing by a little over 300 votes. He’s already announced for 2008, so we’d love it if you could drop in and say howdy and give him a big FDL welcome. :)
scarecrow at 125 — thanks. I haven’t been over to the Howler at all this week (been busy dealing with..erm..other things for some reason *g*). Appreciate the link. I’ll take a peek when I get a few minutes.
Ed*ard Teller @
110
kemo @
103
TeddySanFran @ 96
You know I would bet a donut Webb’s son is off the front line these days, you think?
Why do you think that is the case?
Bush is all about blackmailing Congresspeeps – he’s gotten careless and public about it with this, tho. Its a power play.
rumi @
118
The Kos diary linked to by Redd covers that extensively, if somewhat weirdly. I read the whole dang diary thread last night.
Lance Corporal Webb, after his buddies were killed, not injured, three weeks ago, undoubtedly felt more solidarity with his squad, not less. Whether or not his commanding officer is under pressure from above to minimize exposure to the son of a new U.S. senator, I doubt LCpl Webb feels that way himself.
perris — here’s our first post on the Gore speech and here is a direct link to the Gore speech in its entirety. HTH!
Ed*ard Teller @ 129
I missed the Redd link to that diary. Thanks for mentioning that. I stumbled across it and read it when it was wee-smaller than the multi-volume set it is now. Was there any consensus to any of the points raised or just regular bantering? I didn’t want to do much more than mention it…like he told Junior, it’s between him and his son. I respect and appreciate the service to our country but we have to get those guys outta there.
Troops
Home
NOW
Circumventing the 1978 FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) to engage in illegal surveillance of people residing within the United States since 9/11/2001 without judicial review, in *direct* conflict with the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, and therefor an impeachable offence. (Note: during the 2004 campaign, Bush *specifically* addressed “roving wiretaps” as part of the Patriot Act and defended them on the grounds that they were still required obtaining a warrant.)
When I started commenting on FDL about a year ago (I think) I used my actual name cause I didn’t know any better. When I saw that no one else did I decided to leave my handle alone. I just thought that the more info Bushco had on me and everyone else the more confused they would become. As time went on I have to admit that I got a bit testy, okay-slightly paranoid, about it. Funny how something so pedestrian can give one pause. In the end I did not change it cause I had used it for such a long time and I am obstinate. I still have a hard time believing that I am concerned about this in my country.
on bush-Webb, if you’ve seen the movie Gladiator its a perfect parody with Webb as the Roman General Augustus Aurilieus (sp) played by Russell Crowe and bush as the heired emperor pissy-pants.
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Something I’ve been dying to ask George Will: were his knickers in such a twist when Cheney told a congressman to “go fuck himself?” Or was he not as concerned with manners in government back then?
Good for Webb for standing up to a bully and making it very clear he knows exactly what kind of game the assWipe plays.
zoot at 135 — ooh, never thought of that, but the personalities match up well there, don’t they? Interesting comparison. *g*
BaltimoreBabe @ 136
assWipes only play one game, they go to Uranus to fight Klingons (my son told me that one).
This particular assWipe is going to be well remembered for his Klingons
What was it, I wonder, that Rove and Cheney saw in this assWipe which hinted he would be so apt a Hardingesque meat puppet?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 130
looks like none of these links are still hosting the speech christy, and the c&l link of highlights is dead also
twolf1 @ 111
Shorter Condi: I’ll sell my “husband” out for a good book deal.
BobbyG @
120
As usual, you’re right Bobby.
Check out Carnival Booth
I know this so far in EPU land maybe no one will see it, but, c’est la vie
BobbyG @ 120
Most likely because they knew their scoring system couldn’t actually prove a goddamned thing (other than, maybe, a surprising correlation between Reds and their own political opposition).
I was a fan of Eleanor Cliff in the old days, when Newsweek editorials and the McLaufflin Group were the only things available. Then came the blogs, which sort of made a lot of MSM talking heads irrelevalant to me. So I sort of lost interest in the ideas of mainstream pundits. Ms. Cliff, however, was spot-on, with her recent post. However, are these professional editorialists simply tacking for survival in the prevailing winds?
thanks for Carnival Booth, JohninSac. Got it bookmarked, will read it soon!
FBI Activating Cellphone Mics For ‘Roving Wiretaps’
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..144114/510
Mommybrain @
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Yeah. As the old saying goes: Work is the curse of the
drinkingblogging man.EvilDrPuma @
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Of course not. After the people Bush has given it to, it it no longer has any value. Have to
debase oneget one from the private sector now.TeddySanFran @
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So what is going to happen to his fundamentalist deputy with the bigger God, Lt. Gen. Boykin? Anyone know?
– THE GREAT COMMONWEALTH OF THE STATE OF VIRGINA HAS A PROUD REASON TO HOLD ITS HEAD HIGH. MODESTY BECOMES HIM, BUT SENATOR ELECT JIM WEBB, IS ENDOWED WITH STEEL BALLS, WHICH CLEARLY RUN IN HIS FAMILY. AND BUSH ONLY HAS VIRGINIA P-NUTS.