I live in an area near Washington DC full of first generation latin American immigrants, mostly from El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Ecuador and Peru. We don't have as much of a Mexican presence here, the way most other Spanish speaking communities in the United States do, and the Puerto Rican community is strongest in New York. The Cuban community of course is centered in Miami.
I love latin music performed in Spanish, and as I thought about what to write tonight, I thought of sharing with you many of my favorites, including plenty of salsa and lots of fun, cheesy latin romantic pop ballads and club music samples from the likes of Willie Colón, Joe Arroyo, Celia Cruz, Christian Castro, Alejandro Sanz, Luis Fonsi, Son by Four, Carlos Ponce, DLG, Thalia, La India, Shakira (I hate the stuff in English) and others. That's the stuff I enjoyed most when I spent a lot more time in the latin clubs with Spanish speaking friends and lovers, back in my single days. Ahem. Good times.
But for many of the new generation of Spanish speaking youth here today, torch songs and flamboyant songs of love and longing are no longer where it's at: that's their parents' music. Like all immigrant communities before them, latin youth are experiencing the cultural dislocation and ferment of forming a new identity in America, expressing their experiences in their own musical idiom. That idiom, by and large, is Reggaetón, an original brew of carribbean beats, hip hop stylings and more.
The songs and sensibilities brought here by the people who first arrived spoke often of hearts longing for love and connection, and this naked vulnerability and desire, however mawkish at times, nevertheless represents a tradition of popular music that has become absent from much of American popular music in English. The pinnacle of this kind of music in America came through the rather sophisticated, adult popular compositions by songwriters of the classic American songbook tradition, though cheesy, poorer quality love ballads do still make their appearances among the occasional oversinging American diva, boy band or R&B artist. But even salsa, from the latin American dance hall tradition, was music enjoyed in its place by all generations at once. Now, in America, a generational musical divide is taking over, communal celebration and romantic vulnerability are out, and the song above, by native Puerto Rican Daddy Yankee, represents one very popular example of latin music's new wave.
The song is titled "Corazones," or "Hearts," but the experience of the heart this song conveys speaks to the very different, more alienated and tumultuous experience of today's latin American youth living in the US. There's a struggle in this song with making sense of the darker disaffections, aggressions and violence in alienated communities, and while this particular song's lyrics speak of a redemptive heart and spirit that transcends violence and the dissafection of communities, the experience the song channels is a far cry from Christian Castro's Yo Queria or Celia Cruz' La Vida Es Un Carneval. The first generational arrivals here could take their connections to their communities and families for granted, but the next generation of latin youth growing up here occupy a more confusing, swirling cultural netherworld of an identity newly inventing itself and grasping for bearings: a quintessential American immigrant experience.
What has all this got to do with politics?
It's amazing how much of the discussion if immigration in this country excludes latino voices talking about latino community needs and latino community experiences. On the right wing, such voices are entirely absent and excluded, and only the panicked projections of the racists and the xenophobes carry the day. On the left, immigrant community voices begin to break through, but the conversation still tends to focus on the questions, "What do we do with these people?" or "What do we do about these people?", rather than "Who are these people and what do they need?"
I'm not naive. Most established, English speaking Americans won't come to much of an understanding of these communities, in part due to the language barriers, but also because "alien" (what a word!) cultures feel uncomfortable and strange. But the best thing majority Americans can do for these communities, indeed, for the entire American community, is help them by providing the institutional frameworks that allow for full participation and opportunity in this society, including pathways to citizenship for the vast majority of undocumented people who are working and not engaged in any crime, educational support and college scholarships, rights to organize and guarantees of safe, healthy working conditions.
Not everyone needs to immerse themselves in these communities to be able to help them, and to the extent that Democrats have shown some understanding of these issues, they have reaped electoral benefit, as in the last election. In 2006, latinos went for the Democrats 69 to 30 percent, a 10-point increase in the spread from 2004.
Fans of Daddy Yankee may not feel they have much at all in common with a 40 year old half latino gay man like me, but that's not necessary. What is necessary is to create an environment that promotes opportunity and fairness for all of our neighbors. In the end, all of our hearts and all of our communities (corazones y communidades) seek the same things.
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I’m preposting a quick comment to let people know I’ll be joining the comments late. We have an obligatory holiday gathering to attend this evening. Catch you later!
Whoever posts after me gets the honorary zero. . .
zed!
it’s just not the same…
a zed with an asterisk
Have fun tonight, Pach!
I had to leave the discussion early last night (hot date with my wife!) even though it was one of the more interesting threads since the election. Two things that I wanted to comment on badly enough to go back-topic tonight:
First, my comment that
deserves some follow-up/clarification. With bottom-up nanotechnology you wouldn’t even need to kill the person. If you could manipulate matter at that scale you could do a lot nastier things that weren’t as showy. Just give them something that starts manufacturing LSD (or even ethanol) in their GI track 24/7, and turn them into an obvious loon (or drunk).
If you have to kill them, and quickly, denature the hemoglobin in their blood. If you want them to suffer first, play with their neurotransmitters.
Why mess around with exotic isotopes that you have to carry around with you when you can just turn their own body against them, using well characterized molecules that can be made right in their body? Not that there is any reaason to believe that anyone has bottom up nanotechnology now, or will have in the near future, but if you did there are a lot better things you could do with it than messing arround with polonium which is dangerous to handle, easy to trace, and would dissolve in the stomach’s low Ph environment anyway.
Second, reading through the threads today I noticed that some people were giving Crick a hard time for not accepting the unknown reader’s claims about Po-210. I have to say, I share his skepticism. Since the objections seemed to be that Crick wasn’t being any more specific (and wasn’t sourcing his counter claims) I’ll try to give some specifics (all claims direct quotes from the anonymous reader):
Claim: Firstly, Po210 does not require a reactor to be made, in fact, it doesn’t need to be made at all as it is a decay project of natural (not depleted or enriched) U238.
Reality: It also has a half-life of 138 days, so the bulk of polonium in natural sources (which are typically much, much older than 140 days) have long ago decayed. There is about one gram of polonium in every 10,000 metric tons of uranium in nature, and the proportion declines as it’s processed because of polonium’s volatility.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonium
Further, it is somewhat silly to speak of “depleted U238″ or “enriched U238″ for exactly the same reason we don’t normally say “concentrated water” or “diluted water” — U238 is the commonly occurring isotope to which other isotopes (such as U235) is added to make “enriched” uranium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium-238
Claim: I could, given an hour and a hand written procedure, actually teach you how to chemically separate Po from Uranium. I used to do it for a living.
Reality: While possible, the odds of this being true are better than a million to one against. To put it in perspective, the US produces less that a teaspoon of Polonium per year. If the process of chemically separating it is as easy as the poster suggests, there can’t be more than a few dozen people nationwide who do it for a living. And most of them probably don’t read FDL.
To put this in perspective, the three major TV networks each produce a half dozen or so new sitcoms each year, and have been doing it for forty years or so. If each sitcom averages four “stars” that means there are perhaps 3 x 6 x 40 x 4 or about 2800 people who could honestly write “I used to be the star of a network sitcom” — making the claim a hundred times more likely to be true than “I used to separate Polonium from Uranium for a living.”
Yet I doubt many of you would accept such a brag if offered without proof.
Claim: Secondly, Po is a very very strange element. It is a chemical analog of Oxygen, but is a metalloid (somewhat like mercury)
Reality: Polonium is a chemical analogue of tellurium and bismuth (but not Oxygen) and (as Crick pointed out yesterday) Mercury is not a metalloid. For that matter, nether is Oxygen. See any periodic table.
Claim: When it gets into the body, it targets oxygen bearing materials, particularly the blood and bone marrow. Because of size differences, it does not cross the alveoli wall in the lungs as well as oxygen does.
Reality: This is kind of a silly thing to say, since to a good first approximation the entire human body, is “oxygen bearing materials”; the human body is after all 65% oxygen by weight. http://chemistry.about.com/cs/…..ements.htm
Polonium targets the spleen and liver.
http://www.springerlink.com/co…..v5lp9yvwm/
Claim: Po was separated at a place called Mound in New York state
Reality: Mound is in Dayton, Ohio http://www.atomicheritage.org/dayton.htm
Claim: The Po would be separated, put into a steel container about the size of a pop can, which was then welded shut.
Reality: There doesn’t seem to be any evidence that even a single pop-can sized lot of polonium was ever refined by anyone.
Claim: The steel can would be picked up with tongs, and dipped into molten lead.
Reality: Polonium 210 is an apha-emitter, and its product, lead, is stable (see earlier sources). A normal pop can would have been sufficient shielding–heck, so would a piece of paper. Dipping it in molten lead would be pointless and (given it’s low vaporization point) very dangerous, since you would now have a highly pressurized pop can full of an incredibly hazardous gas and dripping with molten lead.
Unless you were trying to win the mother of all Darwin Awards, this would not be a smart thing to make.
Claim: The whole was then allowed to cool, the tongs were cut off, and the whole placed into another can, sealed, placed into a box and shipped.
The box would arrive at Los Alamos and half the Po210 would be gone….
They would find the rest all over the box, the can, the truck it came in, the driver.
Reality: As noted in the MSM repeatedly over the past week, polonium is actually for sale over the internet, and the shipping arrangements look nothing like this.
Further, I can’t seem to find any other reference to this amazing escaping polonium story, despite the fact that such a thing, if true, should be reasonably well know (or at least mentioned on the materials handling sheets for polonium.
And so on and so forth.
All of this leads me to conclude that the anonymous reader was most likely a troll and had a good laugh at our expense. But even if you won’t go that far, I hope you can see that the doubts Crick expressed were at least reasonable, given the disparity between the claims of the “reader” and the publicly available facts about polonium.
–MarkusQ
Hi Kirk,
Whoa, that was some story you posted downstairs. Then I went over to narconews.com to check it out. It is now on my toolbar, thanks for introducing me to it.
I remember freezing up in shock when Tom Tancredo (R-Klan) was on C-Span saying that the US is at risk of becoming, well, Brazil, and that would be bad because Brazil has so many brown people that you can’t tell who’s a real Brazilian and who isn’t anymore… that our “whiteness”, presumably, is the source of our identity and our nation’s “civilization”… Separately, he constantly likes to bring up Samuel P Huntington’s class of civilizations.. and how the Latin one threatens OUR lily white one. I also remember Duncan Hunter (R-Abramoff) opposing the Carrizo Gorge freight railway on the grounds that it’s too close to the border, that the brown people living in the area were possibly disloyal, and that the train might be usurped by Latino terrorists, somehow. For him, tensions and war in the Middle East translates somehow into a Latino menace. Go figure.
On this “issue” (which shouldn’t be an issue at all, but rather, yet anohter illustration of America’s cultural richness) as on so many other issues these days, we now live in a scary place.
Clint?
Crick?
great latin music:
http://www.batanga.com
But… Mel Martinez and Alberto Gonzales!
Surely the voices of Florida’s Senator and our Attorney-General have contributed to the immigration debate.
OT
Christy,
You may be asleep but my goodness, what a helluva football game between WVU and Rutgers.
Go Mountaineers!!!
kirk murphy @
3
you and Barry Bonds
I like to listen to a variety of Latin music, but most of it is much older than “Corazones.” I have long loved the music of Silvio Rodriguez–political songs, love songs, all of it.
My greatest regret is that I don’t speak or understand Spanish. If I had my life to live over . . .
big fan of Cuban son a la the late Ibrahim Ferrer and the Buena Vista crowd
TeddySanFran @ 8
Whoever. I don’t recall that the issue was his skepticism. I recall that the issue was that he was a pedantic, self-important prat about it. But hey, to each his own.
well, USC stunk it up. Cal Bears eaked through against Stanford in the Big Game
Fine post. Viva, Pachacutec!
Los Lonely Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4COLJ5tBUr0
I grew up hearing mariachi music, Tex-Mex and a little flamenco.
Love the culture, miss it.
la nuit est jeune here on the Left Coast: stepping out. hasta manana.
punaise @
19
You’re a party animal, punaise.
MarkusQ @ 5
Professor Foland @
261
Hi MarkusQ,
It was a stormy night indeed on the ‘lake. I was troubled. It seems to me that double-checking one’s sources in such an esoteric subject is prudent, so I was on crick’s side there. And also that the matter could be cleared with some actual, you know, facts. I had none to contribute as my ignorance of the properties of polonium is nearly perfect.
Thank you for your contributions, early you put lot of time. I also repost Prof Foland’s thoughts, similar to your own.
crick, if you are out there, thank you for your skepticism, it seems to have been sensible and warranted.
Hi MarkusQ -
I hope the date was a joyous one!
I appreciate your factual discussion of the questions crick raised yesterday.
Had the questions crick raised yesterday been as factually focused, my response would have been equally factual.
Again, thanks for all the time and effort you devoted to looking at the science and the facts.
Pach,
Did you hear about the latest crap Herndon is pulling? Language Restriction Proposed in Herndon
I hate that town. Hating living in it, hating going to high school in it. All they want is a return to the 19th century where brown people knew their place.
The more progressive and tech corridor Reston becomes, the more reactionary Herndon becomes.
Jane Hamsher @
20
actually, I’m just taking out the garbage.
HotFlash @
6
Hi Hotflash -
I so wanted the story to be wrong. With the Observer’s quality and the British libel statutes, I’m sure the story is accurate.
[I don’t know if you should thank you or curse me for bringing that article to your mind: I won’t be able to forget the images, no matter ow I try.
Guess that explains why I don’t see many movies - can’t do gore.]
kirk murphy @
22
It was quite fun, in a sort of exhausted middle aged working parents way. We went to a local fair thing, ate some unspecified meats and vegetables, spent a little time figuring out how the games of “chance” were rigged, found the beer and deserts, then headed home to see what the kids had done to the house and/or babysitter in our absence.
Not what I used to call a hot date, but my tastes have changed over the years.
–MarkusQ
MarkusQ @ 25
That sounds fun to me.
Who knows, I may yet meet someone so lacking in discernment they’d like to join me in the exhausted parent thing – sounds blissful.
This made me laugh.
Thanks for the great post, Pachacutec!
Well, it has definitely frustrated me that Latinos were shut out of the immigration debate for WAY TOO LONG! All I would see on the teevee were angry old white men screaming about the “illegal aliens” who were sucking up all their precious tax money along with all their precious bodily fluids. [hehe ; ) ]
My city has a huge Latino population, about 75% of the entire city, so the immigration issue is very important here (with many immigrants coming here). However, our local voices were silenced…
Until May, when the protests hit…
In fact, I met a few of the now-famous LA marchers. Personally, I would be very happy with just opening the border and fixing our trade policies… But I know that’s not politically feasible, at least at the moment. I would just be happy with a comprehensive bill that doesn’t just punish the immigrants.
But how do we get there? How can we make sure that the folks who are most impacted by any new immigration legislation are heard?
punaise @ 16
Go public universities!
Patrick 4/4 @ 30
Well, you should know that most of Orange County, including the entire city of Newport Beach, is in a state of SEVERE DEPRESSION tonight!
And me…
Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn. I don’t have ties to either school. ; )
atdnext @ 31
Me either. But my son is 15, incredibly smart and UCLA and Berkeley are probably what I can afford. Go Bruins! Go Bears!
OfT
Broderalla’s loveletter in tomorrow’s WaPo to Mitch McConnell, and my email to David about it.
atdnext @
31
I went to USC. I always root for UCLA.
Sniffing the meta trend, Debbie analyzes her employer’s local coverage by locality.
Her employer, publisher and owner Donald Graham (former DC cop) believes WaPo is a local paper. Perhaps it’s Xmas Bonus time at WaPo. Hope your envelope’s a fat one, Debbie!
Jane Hamsher @ 34
I went to USC. I always root for UCLA.
Well, to be honest…
I have a couple of friends who went to UCLA, and a couple who went to USC…
So they kinda cancel out.
Other than that, I don’t have any family who went to either school…
And I’ll probably be transfering to UCI next year.
Anyways, thanks for replying, Ms. Hamsher…
I may not be a Trojan fan, or a Bruin fan…
But I’m a big FDL fan! ; )
Jane Hamsher @ 34
Underdoggies always get my support. Way to go Bruins!
Thanks you, adtnext. Good luck at Irvine.
Patrick, I hope your son has a great time at Cal, UCLA, or any of the other UC’s (I’m partial to the College of Creative Studies at UCSB, myself.) UCSD/UCSB rock for science nerds who like to be outside…
With my mom an Ohio State grad and my own training in the UCLA system, I’ve only rooted for Trojans once.
That’s when I was doing medic at Ruckus camp – picking up after someone knocked over the condom bowl.
kirk murphy @ 39
His mother wants him close at UCLA. She nearly killed me when I mentioned Oxford or Cambridge.
I went to Northwestern during their record-setting losing streak (pretty much bracketed by my time there), so I loves me an underdog, too.
kirk murphy @ 39
Who won the Condom Bowl that year?
TeddySanFran @ 33
Corrupt Repug cocktail weenies are an acquired taste that Davey can’t seem to shake.
Some folks’ll eat anything, won’t they?
Patrick 4/4 @ 40
My lips are sealed -
to answer would be Hippocritical (not).
TeddySanFran @ 33
“McConnell is in the odd — and potentially awkward — position of having his wife, Elaine Chao, serving as secretary of labor in the president’s Cabinet.” – from Broder’s piece
Yeah, I think that’s a little more than “odd”…
Can anyone say “conflict of interest”?
kirk murphy @ 43
Oathkay.
I’m back. I’m tired, too.
I love it when the USC Trojans played the USC Gamecocks. The announcers can’t use the school names, so they have to repeat the team names over and over and over. Pretty funny.
TeddySanFran @ 47
And now we have Kirk Murphy’s suppressed answer.
Pachacutec @ 45
the obligatory gathering sounds not so fun…
but welcome back!
TeddySanFran @ 47
And if they try to shorten “Gamecocks,” the FCC is all over their arses.
Actually, it was fun. I didn’t know a lot of people, but I had a good time.
TeddySanFran @ 47
I noticed that when my dad had the radio on…
At first, it was “Trojan Radio” as they were pumped up over a “likely Trojan win”…
Later on, he switched to “Bruin Network” as they were jazzed over a “possible Bruin upset”. Trojans… Bruins… Trojans… Bruins… Fortunately for me, I’ve heard of them my whole life…
But if I weren’t so savvy about SoCal life, I’d scratch my head over when Homer ever mentioned the tribe of “The Bruins”.
Here’s my letter to Local Ombudsman Howell:
Just returned from the Monster Jam here at the Metrodome in Minneapolis. I would have preferred hot coal walking, but once the thing started the look on my six year old son made it worthwhile.
Monster trucks. The boy sleeps with the things. His eyes were platters as these behemoths soared skyward off of jumps made of junked cars. Truth be told I was quite impressed myself.
The last event was a Demolition Derby. 14 pickup trucks lined up back to back. Li’l Rog asked me what they were doing. Just watch, I told him.
When the first 2 or 3 trucks smashed into each other, both he and his friend cut loose. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! It was hilarious.
Question. Can I still be in the club even though I admit attending? It seemed so, so NASCAR somehow. Plenty of W shirts to go around. I wore my ‘Geek Inside’ t-shirt.
Hi Pach!
EvilDrPuma @ 49
Are those FCC “investigators” proof of the Peter Principle?
Balrog @ 54
You can be our inside Balrog. We’ll need someone to communicate with the MonsterJam folks when the Authoritarian Cult collapses around them. They’ll need lotsa friendship and therapy, like Cheney accused us of wanting for the terrorists. You can lead them all to the light, balrog! With li’l rog’s help!
Hi, Teddy.
TeddySanFran @ 53
You’re a rockstar, Teddy! : )
Catch y’all in the morning!
Pachacutec @ 60
Good night! Thanks again for the great piece on Latinos and immigration…
As a West Coaster, it’s nice to get an East Coast view of things. : )
Balrog @ 54
Nothing wrong with bustin’ stuff up for fun. I’m suspicious of pigeonholing people politically by what they enjoy.
It’s one of the reasons people used to avoid politics and religion in polite conversation. There’s lots of room for common ground on fun and culture before we whack each other on politics.
oortdust @ 23
Man, that sucks. These reactionaries got into power by exploiting people’s fears about the day laborer center and the “Herndon Minutemen” crap. I need to talk to the people doing New Americans outreach for the Fairfax Democrats; we really need to put together a major effort at Latino voter registration and GOTV in the Herndon area, and build up a community to boot them out.
g’nite Pach.
TeddySanFran @ 57
I’m afraid that the crowd of 30000 was comprised mostly of ‘unreachables’. But I accept my mission and will do what I can.
Cuz I’m guessing that I’ll be going back.
Pachacutec @ 59
‘Nite Pach – glad the gathering was fun for you.
Thanks for your post.
And very specific thanks for this:
LA – with all its faults and fissures – gives me hope for a nation where communities welcome and celebrate our latino brothers and sisters.
But we sure ain’t there yet.
Thanks for helping move us closer.
Pat Buchanan on tonite’s McLaughlin group: “I was glad to see Maliki go in there [Jordan] and snub the President…..the [Hadley] memo was so obviously written for public consumption. It was intended to be leaked. It was totally ham-handed diplomacy.”
(Lawrence O’Donnell nodding.)
McLaughlin: “Is this going to backfire on the Dems?” (going apeshit investigative.)
Pat Buchanan: “I don’t think so. The sky is going to be black with subpoenas….”
Lawrence O’Donnell: “The most important reason for the Dems to do investigations is because they will not be able to legislate….Bush is going to veto anything they send to him.”
Balrog @
65
I left MN more than 20 years ago, but back then much of that crowd would have been card carrying DFL’ers. Keep nudging, I’ve got hope the pendulum is swinging back our way.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 67
Yes, I saw the show as well…
And I was quite pleased with Eleanor Clift’s response to McLaughlin when he tried to make a big issue out of Webb “not giving respect to the President”.
Patrick 4/4 @
62
Do you remember the great Ian Holm as Napolean in ‘Time Bandits’? He greatly enjoyed watching the dwarves fighting on stage trying to make him laugh. ‘That’s what I liike, little people, hitting each other.’
Balrog @
54
I used to go to Music City Raceway to see the drag races with my cousins every week in Robertson County, Tennessee. The king of the track was a guy named Leon Dion. All the locals would drink beer and wail on each other. I would drink diet pepsis from the snack stand and watch the show, which was only infrequently on the track.
RBG @ 69
I’d guess that much of the crowd here was wondering what became of Hizzoner Jesse The Body.
I went to the Latin Grammy’s in ‘03, in the new Third World called Miami. What a treat. I know the flutist Nestor Torrez, and he invited me—what a player. I smoked some great cigars in a really old cigar shop. Thought I’d say hi before I went to bed.
JA
Balrog @ 71
Little people in monster trucks – I’m there.
atdnext @ 51
LOL
Good luck at Irvine, adtnext!
Patrick 4/4 @ 74
The twins enlisted for convoy duty?
WaPo editorial, “And Now, Plan B” seems to say, “Mr. Maliki, your bus has arrived.”
Jane Hamsher @ 72
Shhh…don’t tell nobody, but I’ve been watching Nascar, CART and Formula 1 for the last 20 years.
I usually close all the window blinds so the neighbors won’t find out.
If word gets out, I’m cooked. It just ain’t PC particularly as Balrog knows here in the Twin Cities.
After all, we’re kind of an upscale Omaha, doncha know?
kirk murphy @ 77
Why would I want to trouble my beautiful mind with something like that?
Mad Dogs—sometime when you’re on a thread with Siun, ask her what she thinks about NASCAR.
TeddySanFran @ 78
And here’s what Laura Rozen at War and Piece suggests “may” be on our own short list of options:
snip
Junya and Deadeye ain’t going down without throwing some hissy fits.
RBG @ 81
Vroom, vrooom…I will!
Eliot Cohen wrote a pop-up book?
The people’s employees are tired, they say, and have only one more week of work in them.
And, thank Matt O. and other Defenders of Wildlife for this gem:
For no real reason, I thought I’d check out the late thread at FDL from one year ago today.
So we’re going to train Shia militias to hunt down Sunni insurgents….aren’t the Shia militias doing a really good job of that already? Haven’t they already been trained very well by Iran/Hezbollah?
Mad Dogs @
79
It’s not something I generally advertise, but I used to have a NASCAR mechanic’s license. I used to crew on a stock car (at a regional track).
Not much interest in it now. Like most professional sport, it’s largely a matter of money.
RBG @ 86
Wow. That was cool. And Crick is still waiting patiently for a response…
Hey Pach,
Interesting Post! Great Music Clip! I’m not a fan of rap music but I do love the Dembow beat of Reggaeton. I had a lot of Latin friends in college and become entranced with Latin Music and Dance. I’ve been hooked every since.
With PR roots, I’m surprised that Ricky Martin hasn’t gotten more into Reggaeton.
Because of its connection with rap music, I’ve gotten the impression that Reggaeton is somewhat anti-gay.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 87
You know when you go to the car wash, they spray all the dirt and stuff off with soapy water, and only then do they put on that purty wax.
We’s in the waxing business…so to speak.
Mad Dogs @ 83
I’m a native of Indianapolis, auto racing is in our DNA here. I’ve been into all forms of it since my first experience at the Brickyard (the Indianapolis Motor Speedway) when I was 5. I never got into the monster trucks but there are easily one of these deals at the RCA Dome about once every 8 weeks or so. If you can’t talk auto racing with folks here they are real suspicious of you.
Having said all that my personal preferences lie in the Formula One and Indy Racing League/CART style open wheel racing. I actually have not yet attended the NASCAR race they have every year because I’m just not into it as much.
I will say this though, as a guy who used to work the nightclubs of Indy when these races came to town, the best crowds were for the Indy 500. A good mix of everybody. The F1 crowds were basically Latin American and Europeans, and I gotta say, the Euro folks struck me as our rednecks’ cousins from overseas while the Latin American people were very cool race fans in town for a good time. I love racing fans in general, always looking for a good time.
Patrick 4/4 @
89
Actually the one from two years ago today gives some credence to Jane’s
NASCAR Cred.
montag @ 88
When Awesome Bill from Dawsonville stopped winning, it was pretty much over for me too.
Don’t much care for those smartass young whippersnappers who infest the
circussport these days.Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 92
And don’t forget – they spend the whole race turning to the left.
How to start your own biofuel station.
Except during the F1 race, they not only turn around but use the road course that took away our beloved infield party area.
Mad Dogs @
79
Big Nascar area here. In fact that’s how I used to race my sons down the street. “I’ll be Bill Elliot.” “Well I get to be Lake Speed!”
And there’s a great book by Sharyn McCrumb called “St. Dale.”
A word of caution to all of you thrill-seekers out there:
Don’t fuck wit Cobras.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 97
Now that is un-American.
Mad Dogs @
82
given their mindset it may be the best “idea” they have. even so, it’s a whistling past the graveyard proposition as it strengthens the iranian position. which they really, really, do not want. that’s why they haven’t already done it.
I tend not to reflect upon my greatest hits. But to those of you that do, your grin makes my day. XOXO.
David Pearson, #21. In the Purolator Oil Special!
Saw him go round and round at Ontario Motor Speedway when I was a youngin.
Ontario/Rancho Cucamonga is in Southern California, but it might as well be in TN. I escaped to Nor Cal in ‘77 for college.
Hey…..whatever happened to that House Ethics Committee investigation into Foley? Did I sleep through the news cycle where they issued their report? It was supposed to come down after the election, as I recall.
Margot @ 98
And where is “here”?
Though one shouldn’t speak ill of the dearly departed, no self-respecting Bill Elliot fan would ever admit to admirin’ No. 3.
Perhaps I could read that book with the window blinds closed as well. *g*
John Amato @
74
I’ve got a Feeling… Great one John!
Mad Dogs @ 104
I must be getting old. The first names that pop into my head are still Richard Petty, Cale Yarborough, Buddy Baker and the Allisons.
fahrender @ 101
I think they’ve already tried. Negroponte wasn’t there for his health….
There are fundamental differences between the Salvador and Iraq, politically and ethnically. Despite tons of money poured into El Salvador and tactics which were war crimes, the right wing had been pretty much fought to a standstill by guerrillas who were poorly financed and using substandard weapons. That’s why there was an election which included them (and why some of the ugliest vote suppression tactics imaginable were used by the right to win those elections).
Ugly, ugly times, then, and Iraq has already surpassed them. Whatever tactics Bush and Cheney envision to prop up their puppet government, the opposition will mimic them, act for act (something that did not happen in El Salvador, or, at least, never to the extent it has and will in Iraq). In Latin America, there is a very strong belief in justice. In Iraq, wanting justice has been superceded by the desire for revenge. *sigh*
Seriously, you want me to write something better? Well, ok.
re: mad dogs and teddy (@ 11:25):
they’re, once again, blind to the cultural/geographical differences in the model: what “worked” in san salvador doesn’t translate to iraq. it might be closer to the bay of pigs fiasco in cuba. might be.
it keeps being said that the sunnis will wipe the floor with the shiite militias if there is a massive pullout by the u.s. this may be more CW bloviating.
why, given their cruel and cynical approach to this whole disaster, they don’t just let the sunnis and shiites go at it, or not, is really a puzzle. stubborn arrogance and pride is the only answer.
Wow! Got in from the airport just in time!
MadDogs and Balrog – I normally watch Nascar throughout the season though this year I was too often busy on Sun afernoons – but I proudly display my Darrel Waltrip “Think Fast” pic at my desk and love the strategy and teamwork – as well as the approachable style of Nascar drivers. Jimmy Johnson winning the cup this year though was maddening … I’m a Junior/Smoke and for old times sake Mikey fan.
“Turn Left! Go Fast!” seems like a good motto for us all!
On Friday, an important document was released to the public in the Libby case, after classification review, with redactions. It’s Judge Reggie Walton’s November 15, 2006 CIPA Section 6(a) 38-page ruling about the use, relevance, and admissibility at trial of classified evidence [CIPA = Classified Information Procedures Act]. This is the CIPA ruling that is being appealed by the government, an appeal which may very well delay the Libby trial for some time. The Court has not posted the redacted document on its free webpage of opinions, but if you have a PACER account, the opinion is available at no cost via the Libby docket (also, I see that Tom Maguire has a link up to it on his site – via the left margin Blogroll – as well as a link to Friday’s AP coverage of the filing).
This ruling seems pretty torturously constructed, and has more typos and simple errors of fact in it than I think any previous ruling from Walton has had, despite the many weeks he’s had to draft it [for example, he says the last Section 6(a) hearing was held on 11/1, but the transcript (and schedule and Libby filings) indicates it was held 11/2, and he uses “defense” in one place where “government” belongs]. The language seems overly obsequious to me, in favor of Libby’s position, and it does not seem like a ruling from the same clearly-reasoning and fair Judge who has written earlier rulings in this case (perhaps caused to some degree by the fact that this seems to have been Walton’s first major exposure to the CIPA process). I’m not quite sure what to make of it. Maybe Walton wanted this ruling to be appealed. Try some of these Judge Walton quotes/decisions on for size:
First, in addition to the barn door the Judge appears to have left wide open for a graymail dismissal of the case, pending the outcome of his Section 6(c) substitutions ruling and the government’s 6(a) appeal [because Walton basically seems to have thrown up his hands in the face of CIPA and given up his control over this portion of the case], there is this graymail “trapdoor” he inserted in footnote #11 on Page 7 [which apparently refers to the 280 or so documents that will be represented as ‘points of light’ on a dot chart that is intended to graphically show the volume of Libby’s workload (because the documents have been ruled to be outside the ‘most’ relevant time periods of the case) in aid of his “memory” defense - a chart that had not yet been finished or provided to the Court or government as of 11/28]:
Walton claims the classified information requested by Libby and subject to the Section 6(a) proceedings “has evolved from a mountainous volume of documents and other information to a much more modest quantity” over the course of the 7 Section 6(a) hearings [elsewhere the government called it “an avalanche” of classified material]. I suppose everything’s relative… Of course none of the substance of this volume of classified material directly refutes the charges Libby must defend against at trial, nor will any of its contents be disputed or denied by the government.
Then there are the 100 documents from the ruled-relevant time periods which may be introduced as individual exhibits in whole or in part to support Libby’s “memory defense.” Those 100 documents have been ruled relevant along with the significant amount of classified information contained in “narrative summaries” of the nine [oh-so-sensitive] national security topics that Libby claims he was so consumed with that he let a national security asset/spy’s cover be blown (an asset who probably had a lot of help to offer regarding Topics #3 & 5, to boot). The intelligence community didn’t deem those “nine topics” worthy of redaction – thus we now know what they are, and as a result they are demystified. To wit:
Apparently Libby wishes to expound on these nine topics on three parallel tracks: (1) entering as exhibits (already-written) “narrative summaries” for each of the nine topics, which he may reference in his trial testimony [one of which - Topic #2 - sounds like it’s more than 23 Pages in length]; (2) admitting and possibly referencing about 65 [what I’m assuming are] PDBs and TerroristThreatMatrix exhibits at trial (with fairly limited detail) plus another 35 documents, including entries from many of Libby’s notes from the time periods in question, to which his trial testimony may also refer (including notes Libby recorded which quote the Vice President); and (3) proffered testimony he has offered during the hearings, regarding the nine topics.
The Judge will not allow the fact that Libby is testifying about information contained in Presidential Daily Brief documents and TTMs to be mentioned at trial, but Libby may testify to the substance contained therein which was so all-”consuming” to him. Also, unfamiliar names of terrorists, etc., will be excluded, to avoid the need to define terms for the jurors. [The government strongly, and specifically, objected to the level of detail (which is a “substantial amount of detail” per Walton) included in the “narrative summaries” for each of the nine topics, while not objecting to general summary narratives of the classified information at issue. In response, the Judge seems to have excluded only very limited detail from portions of the narratives for Topics 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6 and none from Topics 7, 8, & 9. This seems to raise a huge issue for the (apparently just-concluded) Section 6(c) substitution phase, which is where the defense maintained such objections properly belong.]
There are also another 29 classified documents relating to Ambassador Wilson’s trip to Niger (and not to the “memory” defense) at issue – the parties resolved [6(a]] disputes concerning 28 of them without the intervention of the Judge. The 29th document [Libby’s “task list” for June 10, 2003], Document #75, was redacted by the Judge, but ruled relevant and admissible in general terms.
Finally, excerpts from the Judge’s telling Conclusion to his Section 6(a) Ruling:
Seems Judge Walton almost forced the government to appeal…
montag (#108):
jinx.
Mad Dogs,
“Here” is SE Ohio. There are always people going south to a Nascar race. My husband counts the Daytona 500 race as the first day of spring.
Balrog @
99
That picture creeps me out.
I came into the kitchen one afternoon to see a small, light brown scorpion scuttle across my kitchen floor and disappear under the stove.
I searched and searched and couldn’t find him, so I set sticky traps all over. No luck.
About a year later I was finishing the dishes, scooped a handful of leftover dinner out of the big sink and threw it into the small one. Something moved. It was the dinner-covered scorpion. We put him into a jar (after ascertaining that he wouldn’t perish due to lack of anything) and took hom to the Sprout’s pre-school to show off. Daddybrain took him up into the hills next day and let him go.
I still have nightmares he’ll come back late one night while I’m up late, surfing the net and…
WHAT WAS THAT NOISE??
fahrender @ 101
I would agree with you except for the fact that Junya and Deadeye can’t stand losing.
I’m thinking mebbe they’ll ignore the fact that Iran is backing the Shiites and decide that a “win” is a “win”.
MadDogs … are you familiar with the article in Newsweek from Jan 05? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/
This is the path the admin has already taken it seems to me – though I’m not sure whether they thought it would lead to a passive Iraqi population or instead simply wanted to kill any Iraqi who didn’t love the idea of permanent bases and US control of the oil …
A great book if you haven’t read it yet is War is a Force that Gives Us Meaning by Chris Hedges – I gather his latest may not be so great but his discussion of being a war correspondent in El Salvador is very worthwhile.
Mad Dogs @ 81
They already did.
The “Salvador Option” – aka “Negroponte’s Abattoir” – is well under way.
Tegucigalpa and San Salvador, the rape-murder of the Maryknoll sisters, the assasination of Archbishop Romero – they were warm-up.
What we used to call bush league.
Let’s hope Cambone’s family leave decision is a signToo late.
Here’s Robert Fisk from March 2006 – on the by then well-established official Iraq death squads.
Up and running for well over a year – killing in a Baghdad neighborhood near you!
Out tax dollars at work.
Oh – the title?
Robert Fisk: Somebody is trying to provoke a civil war in Iraq.
pow wow-thanks much.
Sounds like part of the defense it to scare the hell out of the jury, too.
Great get! How did I miss this?
Patrick 4/4 @ 95
Not all the time. The Indy league does have a few road course events. Locally, my city has a (relatively) new CART event that actually created some excitement this year. As far as politics go, a love of horsepower as no political boundaries.
pow wow @ 112
What is offered as acceptable for trial still seems to fall into the “baffle `em with bullshit” category. They want the jury to be overwhelmed by the sheer volume of irrelevant material. If that doesn’t get him off (imagine the deliberations: “my god, the load that man was carrying–it could kill a horse”), then there’s always appeal on procedural matters.
Anyone gonna ask why he had lots of time for multiple meetings with Judith Miller and visiting rodeos?
fahrender @ 113
Huh? WhadidIdo?
Really. Kiss. Kiss.
OK, I’m sleepy now… I’d better get going.
Thanks, everyone, for another fun night at FDL! : )
kirk murphy @ 117
This is where things get sticky. In Salvador there was already a rightist oligarchy in place, with military backing. Is the current plan to make things so crazy that everybody will take whatever “strongman” or “five families” who will slow the bleeding down to the people nobody cares about?
Salvador made a certain sick sense – it had an endgame. This seems like a different approach to “do something and there will be ponies”.
montag @ 121
…and running from State to CIA to FBI and Dog knows where else, probing Wilson…
Kirk – thanks for the Fisk … that’s one of his best. Folks like Fisk who have on the ground experience in Iraq have been talking about this for quite a while – and when “taking out” Al Sadr is an acceptable policy direction acc to McCain et al, we have a pretty clear view of the disaster.
Siun @ 111
I’m so envious of your Chi-town Nascar race. It’s just cruel…unless by chance you can get me tickets? Purty puleeeeeeze?
Patrick 4/4 @ 125
This is just my outside dumb blogger opinion:
Our “leaders” were so stupid they saw the big strategic risk as the Iraqi Baathists, so they “empowered” sectarians to kill them.
With the goal of keeping Iran out, cause they’re terrists.
Uh-huh.
pow wow @ 112
Gee willickers pow wow, you have been incredibly busy! Bless you for the update!
Sounds like Judge Walton got lost in Scoot’s smoke and mirrors.
Based on Fitz’s past performance, I’m betting he wins on appeal, but there is definitely going to be a delay in the trial start date.
MadDogs – hey, let’s aim for tickets for next season – they do seem to be available (unlike NH where you cannot buy tickets under any circumstances)
It should be interesting to see if the inclusion of Toyota makes a difference …
Justin Raimondo at AntiWar.com has been discussing the Salvadoran Option since the Newsweek article came out in Jan 05. He’s been spot on with his analyses of the situation there for quite some time.
TeddySanFran @ 78
Yeah, declaring that our goal is to have an Iraqi government that has “the ability to take on enemies of the United States” sure would convince Iraqis that it’s not a puppet government…
well … g’night gang!
heading for sleep since my eyes are closing faster than I can type
That sounds a little wacky to me. After all, aren’t the militias/insurgent groups “self-financing” now, as reported by the NYT? Why should we assume that the U.S. is paying the salaries of thugs who work for the Interior Ministry? Do we pay Maliki’s salary? Just because we’re throwing out $$$ like candy doesn’t mean that we’re directly paying the salaries of thugs.
Redshift @ 135
Yeah, I noticed that. Too bad the editors at the WaPo didn’t. Kind of obvious, isn’t it?
kirk murphy @ 128
Yeah. Ponies.
Night all.
g’nite siun – and thanks!
and 2nd Fini’s rec for Justin at antiwar – good stuff on Iraq.
Margot @ 114
Ahhhh…spring! Vrooom, vrooom!
Though I never was much of a fan of the short tracks, I bet you folks would have a fairly short journey to hit the track at Bristol, TN.
Mommybrain @ 115
LOL! I thought I heard something too!
Sparkles the Iguana @ 137
Fisk is talking, in that excerpt of the conversation, about the Iraq Interior Ministry. He’s talking about government-sponsored death squads there.
And, for practical purposes, who’s controlling the money coming into and going out of Iraq? We are. We oversee everything that has to do with oil, and in the time period that interview took place, the CPA had taken over the Oil-For-Food program from the UN. We were doling out the cash then.
scarey mommybrain!
g’nite all, sleep safe and well and warm
Sparkles the Iguana @ 136
Fisk’s inteview with Australian Broadcasting was March 2006 – the insurgency has grown immensely since then.
The self-financing militias are nominally separate from the official government ministries.
The Ministries were paid with US funds.
The US government and military not only pay war criminals, but train them in the US at taxpayer expense (School of the Americas).
TeddySanFran @ 143
g’nite, Teddy!
montag @ 143
Yes, I realized he was talking about Interior Ministry death squads. And I don’t know exactly when this interview took place, but surely you don’t think we control all the funds flowing into Iraq? Don’t you think Iran and Syria are controlling some significant cashflows?
Siun @ 117
Oooohhh…I hadn’t seen that one. So mebbe we been running the Salvador Option for the last 1.5 years and 50-100 or so dead, tortured Iraqis per day has been the result.
Twouldn’t surprise me since I’m a firm believer that our “embedded” MSM newsies are only given access to the “sanitized” tip of the War iceberg.
Must. Sleep. Head. Nodding. Bad. Shatner. Homage. Commenting.
gnight firepups!
Hehehe. “self-financing” insurgencies. The irony. Remember when Imperial Viceroy Bremmer was first put in charge, Iraq’s government was not only going to be able pay for itself within 6 months, they were going, within a couple years, be able to pay us back our costs in the whole Great Enterprise out of oil revenues, in some sort of weird sort of mercantilist revival thing?
Iguana @
137
pow wow — thanks for that. Very interesting.
How likely do you think it is that the trial would have to be postponed for an appeal? What form do you think the appeal would take, and how long would it be before the trial would begin? I know these are all just guesses, and Christy has made them as well, I’m just checking for a 2nd opinion.
Trying to figure out where we’re going to be in January, house rental etc., has become quite the juggling act as a result.
Siun @ 133
You’re on!
“Go Toyota!” says the Camry owner for the last 15 years.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 147
Q#1: Pretty much, yes. The Iraqi dinar is now officially pegged to the dollar and it’s virtually worthless (about 4000 to the dollar last time I checked). Dollars are valuable and we’re the ones bringing them into the country–by the airplane load.
Q#2: No. The influence of Syria and Iran have been grossly inflated for propaganda purposes. The renegade militias are self-financing–by kidnappings, stealing oil and gradually selling off the antiquities that were stolen from the museums and archeological sites. They’re doing right well, since they likely still have caches of arms squirrelled away as US troops approached. And when you’ve managed to abscond with many tons of extremely high explosives (normally used in the high-explosive section of nuclear weapons) which had been under seal by the IAEA, along with tons of unexploded artillery shells, you’ve got plenty of car bombs and IEDs available already.
Interesting discussion; I was reading it all even if I only had enough brainpower to participate minimally. G’night, pups.
Blub @ 150
Poor neocons. Makes you wonder if they fall for those stuff-envelopes-at-home scams.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 155
Nah, they’re too smart for those (and, besides, that would involve real work). The real money is in Nigerian email…. :)
Sparkles the Iguana @ 154
Tee-hee!
On another level:
Poor America.
What has our nation become?
Training and funding monsters who drill into the living flesh of women and children – before murdering them.
What have we done?
kirk murphy @ 157
Hate to say it, but we’ve been doing this sort of thing for a long time. There’s some evidence that we learned some tricks along those lines from Nazis we smuggled out of Germany, and they learned some of it from only god knows who.
If the people in this country knew the full details of what has been done in their names–particularly in the last twenty-five years–the entire country would look like Detroit in 1967.
montag @ 156
Iraqi e-mail.
Dear Sir,
I have nine billon dollars of reconstruction funds that I need to move to a safe location.
Helpless Dancer @ 159
[laughing]
Signed, Richard Perle.
Helpless Dancer @ 159
I am willing to help you. This is an absurd coincidence, but I need nine billion dollars.
Here’s some sobering numbers:–
Cost of Iraq War to date: $350 billion
Cost of Iraq War on the “stay the course” model: $1 trillion
Iraq government revenues: $17 billion
Iraq government budget: $35 billion
Iraq national GDP: $89 billion
So, even if one assumes that they can ever balance their own budget (once they’re at peace and all), and they repay us say, 10% of total government tax oil receipts, how many years would it take us to recoup our costs (assuming no time value of money)?
Ain’t math a b*tch, shrub?
montag @
122
we were writing about the same idea (model of san salvador not a good idea in iraq, etc.) at the same time. i didn’t see yours until after mine was posted. that’s all ,,,,
Blub @ 162
I’ll bet that GDP number is pre-war. I’d bet a steak dinner to a doughnut that it’s lower now. Virtually all the state-owned businesses are closed, no one can get to work safely, etc.
It’s a basket economy.
montag @ 157
montag, I wish I didn’t agree.
the OSS blue bloods thought we’d captured Gehlen.
Gehlen and his values captured us.
(Morgoth at Numenor?)
Oh, and, Shrub, what kind of economic model has a government budget that’s 40% of GDP (probably the best that Iraq can hope for in our lifetimes)? Compassionate conservatism?
montag @162,
Yes.. prewar. I’m giving the MBA president the benefit of the doubt here. These numbers ASSUME that Iraq is able to get back to where it was before we broke it.
fahrender @ 163
Oh, thought I’d done some dirty deed. :) `Course, these days, in the Bushworld, telling the truth is exactly that. :)
Blub @ 167
Hell, most of the money we’ve spent, the Iraqis haven’t seen–except in half-painted schools and at the receiving end of a tank barrel….
Occurs to me–y’know what’s not in those figures?
The reparations that James Baker III negotiated for Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
Jane @ 151 -
I’ve been wondering the same thing.
IF by some miracle or other the government gets Walton to okay, in the Section 6(c) phase, substitutions/redactions for all of the ruled-admissible classified evidence that the intelligence community won’t declassify [that 6(c) ruling may be about to issue although it’s hard to tell where things stand now with those hearings]…
THEN the Section 6(a) appeal might be considered ancillary to the conduct of the trial, and the government/Court could allow the trial to proceed while the appeal waits to be heard [say if the government is primarily appealing to prevent this CIPA 6(a) ruling from becoming precedent, but doesn’t object to the classified evidence in this case going to trial provided that a graymail dismissal can be/has been successfully avoided via Section 6(c) rulings]…
BUT I think the risk with that approach is that the 6(a) appeal may be considered moot by the Appeals Court (depending upon what grounds the appeal is based on, and so forth), should the trial proceed in the interim before the Appeals Court takes up the issue. In which case, the government would file for a stay in the proceedings of the trial to avoid that risk, I presume.
As for the timing of the DC Circuit Appeals Court review – although the CIPA interlocutory appeals provision calls for an “expedited” review, I have no idea what that will translate into exactly, in reality. Maybe within a month there will be arguments? And then within another month or so a ruling? That’s one reason why I wish the media would cover this ongoing saga in much more detail. A lot more perspective and analysis brought to bear on this whole issue is definitely needed.
Meanwhile, I’m assuming we’ll get a few more clues about this from court filings in the next few weeks. Perhaps especially from the open-to-the-public motions in limine oral arguments scheduled for December 19th (as well as from anything we learn at the conclusion of the 6(c) proceedings).
kirk murphy @ 165
pow wow @ 170
Umm, anyone who thinks we’re still a republic–and not a national security state–probably should reread your posts…. :)
make that 30 years (chile)
before that (guatemala)
80 years (marines in nicaragua. killed sandino. said they just wanted to talk to him)
and on …….
well, gotta go to work. carry on pilgrims ……..
Nah. We’re a faith-based state, run on faith-based policies, using faith-based economics, by men of faith, who are fighting a faith-based war. And we’re funded by the national treasury of the People’s Republic of China, which is, well, officially faithless ;)
fahrender @ 173
Very true. I sort of glossed over the eras when we weren’t the one and only “leader of the free world.”
Hundreds of thousands killed at the turn of the century in the Philippines, native Americans before that.
Conquest is addictive–especially to dependent personalities in charge of the government.
Pilgrims’ Progress:
I don’t know if anybody posted this link here earlier, but you can catch up on Howie Klein’s great South American Adventure right here:
http://aroundtheworldblog.blogspot.com/
There are four posts by him up now.
From May 2005, The Salvadorization of Iraq?
On the self-financing thing, note the similarity to the way the Contras started out on the dole, then progressed to drug trafficking to such an extent that it seemed to be the tail wagging the dog. (Robert Parry again.)
pow wow 168 — thanks, much appreciated. And please let us know if you pick up any clues in the process.
Ciro Ciro Ciro
I am so excited about Ciro Rodriguez for Congress in TX-23. He is so much more interesting than Karen Carter, who for some reason has received a lot of unearned attention. For Karen Carter is DLC, while Ciro is a true progressive who has truly crashed the gates.
HELP CIRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP PROGRESSIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP THE DLC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Umm, for those just hanging around and those waking up and looking for something to get the blood pumping before a fresh FDL top end, this is it. :)
me at 165:
Sauron at Numenor.
My bad.
(and Sauron’s)
Night pups.
In case anyone drops in this morning, today’s NYT columnists, from behind the firewall:
http://select.nytimes.com/2006…..amp;emc=th
David Brooks, “Teaching the Elephant.”
http://select.nytimes.com/2006…..amp;emc=th
Nicholas Kristof, “A Modest Proposal for a Truce on Religion.”
http://select.nytimes.com/2006…..amp;emc=th
Frank Rich, “Has He Started Talking to the Walls?”
I’m an Indian-American living in Guatemala and I hear everywhere a Reggaeton song with the high pitched sounds of Hindi/Bollywood! It’s definitely true that the younger generation is looking for something new… Great music picks by the way.
Will do, Jane [re alerting everyone to any clues that may be dropped about the timing of the Libby trial, in underreported filings and such in the next few weeks].
P.S. I like the ‘baffle ‘em with bullshit’ and ‘lost in Scooter’s smoke and mirrors’ comments above from montag and Mad Dogs. Good soundbite summaries of this saga. Let’s see if Judge Walton decides to baffle us now, by perhaps turning around and working with the government to enable all of the admissible classified evidence to be summarized and redacted for disclosure at trial, despite his Section 6(a) ruling’s (admitted) slant toward Libby (and despite Walton’s denial of the government’s first 6(c) substitution motion). [If the government were to get through the Section 6(c) process successfully, I think a huge amount of the credit would belong to the intelligence community’s hard work and cooperation - cooperation which may be much more forthcoming in this CIA-instigated investigation than it would be (or has been) in many other CIPA prosecutions (which could be another reason for the appeal of Walton’s pro-defendant 6(a) ruling).]