
Oh, hey, here's an idea: how about we actually respect our values and beliefs, and our Constitution and Bill of Rights, instead of using them as a stepstool for our personal ambitions:
Newt Gingrich sees, in terrorism, not something to be exterminated, but something to be exploited.It's his golden opportunity, isn't it?
'Rallying a nation,' you might say, 'to hysteria, to sweep us up into the White House with powers that will make Martial Law seem like anarchy.'
That's from the original version of the movie "The Manchurian Candidate" - the chilling words of Angela Lansbury's character, as she first promises to sell her country to the Chinese and Russians, then reveals she'll double-cross them, and keep all the power herself, waving the flag every time she subjugates another freedom.
Within the frame of our experience as a free and freely argumentative people, it is almost impossible to conceive that there are those among us, who might approach the kind of animal-wildness of fiction like that — those who would willingly transform our beloved country into something false and terrible.
Who among us can look to our own histories, or those of our ancestors who struggled to get here, or who struggled to get freedom after they were forced here, and not teer up when we reed Frederick Douglass's words from a century-and-a-half ago: "Freedom must take the day"?
And who among us can look to our collective history, and not see its turning points — like the Civil War, like Watergate, like the Revolution itself — in which the right idea defeated the wrong idea on the battlefield that is the marketplace of ideas?
But apparently there are some of us who cannot see, that the only future for America is one that cherishes the freedoms won in the past, one in which we vanquish bad ideas with better ones, and in which we fight for liberty by having more liberty, not less.
"I am seeking to create a movement to win the future by offering a series of solutions so compelling that if the American people say I have to be president, it will happen."
What a dark place your world must be, Mr. Gingrich, where the way to save America, is to destroy America. I will awaken every day of my life thankful I am not with you in that dark place. And I will awaken every day of my life thankful that you are entitled to tell me about it. And that you are entitled to show me what an evil idea it represents — and what a cynical mind. And that you are entitled to do all that, thanks to the very freedoms, you seek to suffocate.
Some days, you just have to start with a little Olbermann fix. That felt gooooooood. Crooks and Liars has the video of the whole special comment -- and it is worth the watching.
That Newt Gingrich made an ass of himself talking about restricting free speech at a dinner in support of the First Amendment? Well, if he was looking for some Sister Souljah moment, taking on the Founding Fathers at a dinner in their honor in New Hampshire (whose state motto is: "Live Free Or Die") was not, perhaps, the smartest thing to do, now was it?
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Just saw KO on C&L.
Wo. He was smoking. I don’t remember seeing him so angry. Newt wants to suppress freedom of speech to save the nation, including shutting down troublesome people on the internet.
Morning all. Servers are up and running again. Still trying to figure out what caused the down time. Sorry about the inconvenience, but our genius tech folks are working on it. :) Thanks John and Jamie!
Time for people to consider workarounds if the main progressive blogs get shut down. Or have “problems.”
hey, site’s been down for me this morning
Christy Hardin Smith @
4
It’s all that damn incivility.
Morning Christy!
what newt doesn’t realize is that, if we limit free speech, it will set a bad precedent. After free speech is gone, they will try do away with habeas corpus, then our right to privacy, then our right to…. oh wait, never mind.
egregious @ 5
this is one of the reasons they don’t want net neutrality.
they can choke any site they want
New rules compel firms to track e-mails
And, btw, it took me forever to find this Daily News cover. I absolutely love that drawing — it is SUCH a perfect image of Newt Gingrish, isn’t it? *g*
Newt’s central nervous system is comprised of a chunk of the Granite State.
He never got the “live free or die” memo.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 11
The artist needs to make one for Lieberman too
Another HuffPo commentary by Tom Hayden: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....35290.html
OH, thank goodness you’re back! This morning was like having a friend in the hospital across the country… Nothing you can do but fret and worry and hope for the best… Here they are:
Today’s NYT columnists, from behind the firewall:
http://select.nytimes.com/2006.....amp;emc=th
Thomas Friedman, “The Energy Wall.”
http://select.nytimes.com/2006.....amp;emc=th
Paul Krugman, “Economic Storm Signals.”
Marion at 15 — good to see you, too. I hand-wrote my post in HTML on wordpad, so I could get it up faster for you guys when we got back up again. Good thing I self-taught myself some HTML. *g* Every once in a while, the nerd side of my brain comes in really handy…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....35294.html
twolf1 at 13 — gee, are you expecting Lieberman to throw tantrums?
O.o
Patrick 4/4 at 7 — yeah, I could do with a whole day where we don’t discuss civility, frankly. Maybe a few days…
Stephen Parrish:
Well, all I can say is that a coalition between Sunnis and Shiites would be great news for the people of Iraq.
We need to get out yesterday.
I remember, back when he was still a freshman and NPR was still, well, NPR, they used to run incredulous stories about him, as in look what this weirdo is doing. He was considered an outlier then, a little crazy.
He’s always been politically tone deaf, thank goddess. Nothing new about that.
I think he could be a dangerous man otherwise.
Looking through the comments on this subject at a newt site. here are some of them:
newt is a has been and he should remember that. If not America will tell him again. The crooked man that is eye of newt is evil and unAmerican to say the least. He should be subjected to what he proposes then that would take care of the problem. Newt is a terrorist…. under Bush’s first definition. Bush said… the terrorists seek to change our way of life… so Newt… you are essentially a terrorist. Sorry but you meet Bush’s definition. Will Bush notice?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 19
Would you call it a ‘civility war’ or ‘commentarian violence?’
CNN - Pelosi chooses Reyes as House Intel Leader
OT but I have to pay respect:
(emphasis mine)
http://health.yahoo.com/expert.....t-involved
newt, scalia and others probably think that this is ok– “gotta clear up more space and resources for us!”
angie at 26 — I have something coming up on that in a bit.
Thank you Marion - quite a read!
OT… some good stuff on c-span1 today….
thomas ricks (fiasco) was this morning on washington journal this morning - it was pretty good and will be available for streaming from their archive soon.
starting at 10:30 there is a program from the American Bar Association, Standing Committee on Law and National Security starting with discussion called “Detaining and Prosecuting Terrorists”
then at 1pm Jane Harman will give a speech. i wonder what she will have to say… will she be the pre-primary challenge pro-bush, pro-warantless spying Jane Harman… or will she be the new and improved version?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 27
I kinda figured that you would, sweet Christy. ;)
off topic, not even politics, but I think it’s pretty interesting stuff
anti gravity device
warning, pdf.
anyway, it’s true, there is such a thing as anti gravity, einstien predicted this affect from spinning a super conductor, but, his prediction was a million, ,trillion, trillion times (magnitude 30), weaker then the experiments democtrate
they are actually predicting a device that will demonstarte gravitational effects in the order of 17 times (in order of magnitude) over normal matter.
huge…fuhriggin unbelievable
combine this with my new my new cloaking device, which also already exists, then all I need is some warp speed, a miini synthetic worm hole, (my version of teleportation which as yet does not exist but we can hold our breaths, cuz it will), and off I go into star trek land
quite an “enterprise” don’t you think?…I’m ‘beaming”
twolf1 @ 25
thanks… wow, that’s news. any background on reyes?
twolf1 @ 24
Because I have no answer - and because I have to go to work - I will merely “exit gracefully”. {Executes tour jete; twists ankle painfully; leaves]
OT..But on KO last night did anyone else hear Joe Trippi “Democratic Party consultant” talk about the “Democrat Party”? I assume that MSNBC management forces these shills onto the show.
*Breaking* - CNN is reporting that Silvestre Reyes of Texas is to take over as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
selise @ 32
Silvestre Reyes
selise at 32 — he’s been on intel for a while, is hispanic, and from what I hear a nice enough fellow…and that’s all I know at present. Will try and dig something meatier up for you guys on him.
the fact that this man still has a place in our national dialogue shows that our body politcal is desperately ill.
Okay, honestly, does anyone give a rat’s ass whether Britney Spears is getting divorced or not? Why is this news? Gah! Infotainment…
OT - Report: Italian tests positive for deadly toxin
selise @ 32
all I really know is that he used to be a border patrol guy from TX. Probably a wise decision from an “immigration” standpoint.
I wish she had given us Rush Holt.
But I am glad she did not give us Hastings or Harman.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 11
It often takes me longer to find the right art for the cover of sunday service bulletins than to compose the order itself. I know what you mean.
And I second twolf’s suggestion that we need the same artist to take on HoJo.
FREE SPEECH *
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Christy Hardin Smith @ 39
who’s britney spears?
(not having cable tv does have some benefits *g*)
RevDeb at 42 — Jane and I laugh about that all the time — finding just the right picture for a post takes as long or longer than the post itself.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 39
Relatedly and (unfortunately) on topic, how is it news to have the Robin and Co. anchor on CNN reminding the ladies to “remember their panties” this morning ?
Christy Hardin Smith @
18
Good morning class.
What does O.o represent?
I love it that those in GOP leadership are espousing such ideas as curtailing free speech. It will add time to their banishment from power, allow us time to clean up their mess, and remind us of what dark future awaits us if we ever let down our guard and allow the GOP to assume powe again. Keep talking, Newt.
(OT somewhat) I’ve been lurking at FDL for about a year. One of the things I noticed early on was the information available here.
Rarely do I watch TV news, network or otherwise. Weather, yeah. News (or what passes for it), no. I get most of my information from other sources, and it takes time and dedication to ferret out the truth. From what I’ve seen, most everyone here realizes that to some extent or another.
My point is that what I began to notice was that the links and information that I got at FDL was about a day ahead of the curve. I was seeing topics and information in the newspapers and what I did see of television news about a day after I heard it there. I already knew what they were talking about, and in much broader and richer detail than I was hearing from traditional sources. And there was critical information here that was glossed over, misrepresented, or toally absent from those main stream sources.
I would just like to say thank you Christy and Jane and the other commenters and bloggers for helping to maintain some semblance of integrity and ethical standards in this age of spin and obfuscation. This place is a good sanity check for me.
tfitznc @ 13..I saw the PG-13 rated pictures and it was not pretty.
It now looks like the American people are set to dissapoint President Bush by being unable to shop and charge the economy into a soft landing.
When will we as a people stop dissapointing our leader who has done nothing but sacrifice.
-GSD
Balrog at 47 — think of it as a person, with one eye squinting…and then consider it a sign of snark (It’s a Christy thing…)
Hi karnak12– that’s exactly why I hang out here and nice to “see” you!
balrog, I think it might mean uh-oh(?)
Karnak,
Did you have the envelope to your forhead when you stated you could see things in advance?
-GSD
OT - Boston Globe: ‘08 Hopeful Gov Romney Hired Illegal Immigrants To Take Care Of His Lawn…
-via huffpo
The other night I heard Newt comparing our situation in Iraq to George Washington crossing the Delaware and attacking the Hessians. Say what? Talk about turning history on its damnable head and then spinning it like a top.
The truth is that if you looked the word mountebank up in your distionary, you would see a picture of Newt.
With his access to the keys of the Wurlitzer, he is an extremely dangerous man.
Holy mogambo — it is POURING the rain down outside here, and incredibly windy. Hope my internets don’t go out…
how un- Mormon of him twolf1!
bwahahahahaha– Bernie Kerik II.
there are so many of these hypocrites.
Josh is reporting Rep. Reyes to be House Intel Chair
Dilireus @
35
In light of the strong showing in support of Democrats by the Latinos in the past election, elevating an Hispanic American to a higher position is smart.
The Repub’s tried with Macho Mel Martinez, but that didn’t make up for the 8 months of immigrant hatin’ in the run up to the election by the Racist Party.
-GSD
karnak12 @ 49
I think this may be because many ‘reporters’ grab their stories off the net too… It’s way faster than waiting for the morning paper ;)
Christy Hardin Smith @ 45
Try finding twelve images for a front cover of a allergy- free cookbook of ethnically diverse families doing everyday stuff. And then find ten more of allergern free food photos for the inside of the book.
This where the magic of Photoshop comes in handy.
There’s a sweet irony in the fact that a Hispanic Democrat from Texas will be heading the House Intelligence Committee.
Just sit with that for a minute.
aha - reading comments, and of course, I’m late w/ the news. :)
p.s. how is everybody - post election I’ve actually been trying to get some work done. :)
CNN has their Reyes article up now:
Pelosi taps Silvestre for intelligence post
christy - you have email from me….
The US/Iraq war is like:
A) George Washington fighting the British.
B) Franklin Roosevelt fighting the Nazis.
C) Sauron attacking Middle Earth.
RevDeb @ 63
Indeed it is.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 57
On that note, I better go out and take everything off the patio, the winds are supposed to be in eastern PA in the afternoon.
Down but not out…
Where’s Murray Waas? Anyone seen him?
Just listened to Governor Tom Vilsack
of Iowa who is in the Granite State.
Wow. He sounded wonderful…
Jack
OT– Brownback and Obama taking HIV tests and speaking at Saddleback Church today acc to Norah.
lawdamercy.
Balrog!!
RevDeb @ 63
ok, hmmm… is this what you meant?…. from twolf1 @ 36’s wiki link:
course, i have no idea if reyes will be good on the constitutional and human rights issues that have so concerned us. here’s hoping (sounds like angie is not confident?)
GSD @ 54
And was it full of cash?
The bit of Gingrich’s rant that I found most amusing was this:
So, Newt, you’re in favor of locking up Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, and Ann Coulter?
Urban Pirate @ 64
we are very anxious for the new congress to begin, we cannot hold our breaths long enough, watching the damage being done for another couple of weeks is excruciating
BTW
when is talk like a pirate day and how did that begin?
oh goodie– Reyes voted NO on the Iraq war.
selise, I am fine with this! I really wanted Holt, but this does make good sense.
Urban Pirate @ 64
Urban Pirate,
Good to see you! Remember, your real work is here, that other stuff is just moonlighting :)
selise,
I was just thinking meta not specifics.
Obviously we have a lot to learn about Reyes.
OT, but enough to make me do the Snoopy “happy feet dance.” There’s hope for elections, maybe??
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01637.html
twolf1 @ 65
What? We’re suddenly on a first-name basis with the man? This cult of celebrity has gone too damned far.
EvilDrPuma @ 81
LOL
His friends call him Silver– cnn is being way too formal.
OT but if you begin to believe that xtianist whack jobs may not be off the rails read this piece about “soul singer” pat boone and his appearence at the heritage foundation.
perris @ 76
Here you go..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....Pirate_Day
egregious @
5
Here is one eventual potential workaround: http://www.techweb.com/wire/software/196513593
twolf1 @ 22
Really makes you wonder — does this person only know enough history to have heard the slogan, without knowing what it means, or does he/she really believe that a government reminder not to talk about sensitive information to people who shouldn’t hear it is “somewhat akin to” government legally restricting the speech of massive numbers of people because there are a few bad people who might try to communicate bad things?
A pefect fan for “history professor” Newt, I guess.
Newt is now irrelevant; he will disappear into the history black hole. The End.
It’s simply incredible that Gingrich has no problem calling for limits to free speech. Can you imagine if his words were spoken by a leader of a different country, like, say Iran? “Americans need to restrict their freedom to speak so freely. It is dangerous…”. The neocons would go nuts.
I’m wondering how we’re going to reverse the erosion of our Constitution.
What specifically is in the works to restore Habeas corpus and our rights to privacy? And how do we do this without allowing the Republicans to characterize us as terrorists sympathisers?
“Asked by a reporter yesterday about his use of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, Romney, who was hosting the Republican Governors Association conference in Miami, said, “Aw, geez,” and walked away.”
Definite GOP Presidential material. Personally I think all Republican candidates should be asked the pertinent question, “How’s your boy?”
Especially Mitt Romney since neither of his of-age sons have volunteered yet.
klyde @ 83
icky poo!
karnak12 @ 49
karnak -
Tks for expressing what I feel (in words so much better) every time I crank up the toobz or open the paper!
Olbermann fix. This from Daphne Eviatar from The Nation:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061218/eviatar
I thought it was interesting on KO last night were he pointed out how the right wing machine was grasping at straws and couldn’t find any subject of substance to rail at except Danny Devito.
angie @ 90
Oh yea H/T to think progress for that and huuuurrrrrllll is more how i felt
Slothrop @ 89
Mormon Mitt is apparently unaware that he took the name of his Lord in vain. (He probably also isn’t too well versed in the bits of the Gospels that deal with economic justice.)
Looks like Karl got the NY Times headline that he asked for today:
—-
Idea of Rapid Withdrawal From Iraq Seems to Fade
By DAVID E. SANGER
While debate in Washington has turned away from President Bush’s call to stay, even Democrats have dropped talk of an immediate departure.
—–
Looks like Sanger wants to compete with Nagourney for biggest Bush administration hack at the times.
Dems need to go thru this bill with a fine tooth comb… Hold King George’s feet to the fire!!!!!!!!!!
Huge war spending bill to test Democrats
Iraq and Afghanistan request could go as high as $200 billion
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00344.html
Wow, the Sanger NY Times article is really something. Here’s a representative quote:
“In statements on Thursday, Democrats from former President Bill Clinton to Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, the incoming chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, seemed to agree that hard timelines could invite trouble. Nonetheless, some areas of potential conflict with Mr. Bush seem clear.”
Wow, from Clinton all the way to Biden. That is really quite a spectrum of opinion isn’t it?
mrJJ @ 97
Well, here’s what Mr. Kucinich has to say about that and I agree.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....35299.html
WaPo chatz this morning. This sounds like the Gotbux will get their wish after all!
*xyz @ 98
“All the news that fits, we print.” That joke used to mean something different, didn’t it?
Sofistic[87], I hope you are right, but I doubt it.
This mountebank was born for 24 hour cable news. Being glib and provocative are all that count there. Those qualities he has. As such, Newt’s big square head [I hope he wasn’t his mother’s first born] will be filling our
TV screens for years to come.