So NOW they have problem with Holy Joe's willingness to stab the party in the back? That's rich:
Roll Call reports that a few Senate Dem spokespeople are "uneasy about [Sen. Joe] Lieberman’s new communications director, Marshall Wittmann, sitting in on their weekly press secretary meetings." Wittman's a former conservative activist and spokesman for Sen. John McCain.
"Now, everyone at the weekly meeting will feel like the turd in the punch bowl has a name," one colorful Senate flack told Roll Call.
"Yet another Senate Democratic communications director, one whose boss looks a lot like a presidential candidate, said, 'What’s more dangerous than a Republican-turned-Democrat-turned-Independent sitting in our strategy sessions? One who is a prodigious leaker. … I think our ability to speak our minds and get something done in our meetings just plummeted.'"
Ace timing, people. That old chestnut about "closing the door after the horse is already out of the barn" springs to mind.
The lack of enthusiasm for Wittmann seems to span the political spectrum. Let's let Roger Ailes do the honors:
"John McCain and Joseph Lieberman are also both attracted to Marshall Wittman because of his work and thinking about a 'new campaign of national greatness.'" A new campaign of national greatness? The voters must be wetting themselves over that! Those running on an old platform of national shittiness don't stand a chance.
What exactly has Wittmann the Giant ever acheived in his legendary career, apart from self-promotion? Because I don't see anything about that in your post, or in the New York Times article. You seem to think that he has the skills to bamboozle (or seduce) "many pundits," but there's already a surplus of chuzzlewits who guzzle the Maverick/Holy Joe Drano without Wittmann's assistance.
I mostly just wrote this post so I could quote Roger Ailes. Man's a genius.
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FITZ!
Jane!
I read this earlier today and chuckled out loud. Don’t know why I laughed considering the grimness with which this nation is faced with Joe being the schmoe he is.
I can only hope that those same dems find a way to hold their meetings off site and on Saturday. :)
Clinton, Obama, Biden – got foresight?
d r i f t g l a s s !
Turd.
“Chuzzlewits!” Haa! I love it.
So what is the game plan in January when Liebersack finally officially jumps ship?
(Or should we start a pool on how long before?)
Drink your Lieberpunch. Watch for the floaters.
-GSD
Brilliant bit of prose, that. Thanks, Jane.
Holy Joe, Saint McCain, Wittman are forming a new unity party, called “USA 4 US.” Otherwise known as the “Opportunist Party.”
Late but always ready – What’s the mission? Someone here is saying that quite alot and its simple truthiness is awesome.
Something needs to be done about Lieberman. He’s totally out of control. What can be done about this individual?
Mrs. K8 @
9
Doesn’t Nader fit in there somewhere?
What is more dangerous now? For Dem Senators to tell Lieberman to go fuck himself? Or to let him pretend to be on our side and slink around and cause whatever mischief he enjoys?
They had their chances already, I know. But I still think dissing him hard now is the way to go. If he jumps he’ll be even more of a Pariah than he is now, but it won’t be a stealth Pariah like before the elections when only the blogosphere appeared to be paying attention.
I vote someone calls him on his rodentia and make him stand for something.
My favorite part of Mary Ann’s Roll Call article is this:
(emphasis mine)
http://www.rollcall.com/issues…..132-1.html
Oklahoma kiddo @
11
I’m really, really hoping that Harry and others are cooking up an (effective) plan to flip at least one of those few endangered “moderate” Republicans still remaining to at least Independent status (if Democratic is too much of a jump) to caucus with the Dems.
Then buh-bye, Holy Joe!
If I was an Iraqi living in Iraq today, I would be fighting tooth and nail against the invaders and occupiers. Viva Geronimo.
Riesz Fischer @ 12
Why, yes! I think they’ll name him to a position in charge of their “get out the vote” effort. Since he’s such a whiz at all those electoral law matters.
The Dems should put the hard sell on the weepy (R-OH)George Voinovich and promise him Lieberturds chairmanships if he flips.
Then sell Joe down the river for a cost of a new punchbowl.
-GSD
Live interview with Atrios (and other bloggers including an annoying one) going on right now:
http://mtr.org/
GSD @ 18
Or Susan Collins. Or Olympia Snowe.
Hagel would be too much of a stretch. Even though he sounds sane on Iraq (now), he seems to still have the delusion that he can win the GOP nomination in 2008.
Mrs. K8 @ 15
That appears to be the only course open. Damn it.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 11
Dem Senate leadership needs to work real hard to convince a couple “reluctant” Republicans to abandon ship or at least go “Independent”.
If they could swing Collins and Snow, they could throw Joe4Joe under the bus where he belongs.
Mrs. K8,
Snowe and Collins don’t need to change a bit. They are moderate enough in their own state so that they can get relected without any troubles.
Voinovich is in the middle of anti-Republican ground zero in OH. Plus he’s a weepy sort of fella and might buckle under a hard sell.
-GSD
Establishment Democratic thinking:
I don’t if that burner is hot. Maybe if I put my hand on it. Yeeeeoowwh! That hurts but who could know? Seriously? Well, at least I learned something. Now I wonder if that other burner is on . . .
Oklahoma kiddo @ 21
Meanwhile the Dems will continue to pretend they have a majority in the Senate. Bah.
Do we and they really think that every vote is going to be 51-49? Balderdash.
If the Dems in the Senate really feel they are in control, than show us the goods. Make the first step in accountability be one which gets rid of a cancer within.
GSD @ 23
Good point, although before the election I was surprised to see some pretty wingnutty quotes coming from Voinovich (sorry I can’t remember the details).
But isn’t it true that Jim Jeffords would have been re-elected (if he wanted to run again) even if he hadn’t flipped to Indendent? I remember that he flipped for reasons of conscience.
An old-fashioned concept these days, for sure, but isn’t it possible that there’s a shred of conscience left for Susan or Olympia?
Hugh @ 24
excellent!
GSD @ 23
That’s precisely why the Dems are in this mess. They couldn’t or wouldn’t deal properly with a weepy fellow.
Mrs. K8 @ 9
Ahh, so that’s what “centrist” means — “The world revolves around us!”
Riesz, egregious, Mrs.K8 — left you guys a closer in the basement. ;-)
Ed Rogers on Hardball. This man is irritating.
Swopa @ 29
Yes. It’s called the Ptolemy Principle of Political Posturing.
Ed Rogers….
Wait till he refers to Barack Hussein Obama.
More racist dog whistle politics from the Racist Party.
-GSD
Oklahoma kiddo @ 31
Worse than irritating and a liar. I remember before the thumpin’ when he objected to talkin’ with Iran/Syria. Now he’s on board with the chimp.
turd.
It’s comin’ up soon, GSD but he’s gotta slam Carter first.
Dante had words for centrists:
Olbermann minus two.
Rayne –
Thanks for the heads-up!
And I was right — you HAVE ALWAYS had good instincts. It’s like the reverse of magnetic attraction — “magnetic repulsion.”
Wingnuts give off a certain “vibe.” Sensitive folks like you start vibrating (and NOT in a good way) in their presence. This instinct will protect us at neighborhood parties, PTA meetings, kid’s soccer games and the like. Life is too short to have it shortened further by exposure to the psychic vampires amongst us.
Mrs. K8,
I am sure that there are lots of folks that see the R-Party as having been hijacked by the Gingrichite/Dobsonite jackals and don’t want to be driven from the party.
Can’t say I agree with them, but I am sure that is the mindset of lots of these old school Repubs.
-GSD
Ah, these Dem. Senators will come to rue Lieberman more than they ever could of ever have imagined in their wildest dreams. Hate to say it but most of them deserve this f**kin’ wonk since they failed to get behind the Democratic primary winner
angie @ 34
Worse than irritating is right. Every time I hear him say “Democrat Party” I want to reach through the teevee screen and slap him silly, until he says it correctly.
RevDeb @ 35
Thank you, RevDeb! I had heard that quote recently (just yesterday, on Keith’s show maybe?) and was wracking my memory-challenged synapses, unsuccessfully, to come up with it in the earlier thread.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 36
This looks like a really good one.
Gingrich. Is this an example of the ‘peter principle’?
Olbermann is killing me already.
Mrs. K8 @ 40
I was absent for most of that thread, but remember the quote from my own ambivalence during Gulf War I. I learned my lesson well.
Gingrich really is a Nazi.
Mrs. K8 @
20
But electronic voting machines seem to just *love* him for some reason…
Gawd-damn, Ailes (the good one) is funny!
As for Wittmann and the Dems, it seems like yet another fuck-you from Lieberman (yet one more in a long, long series of same). People here aren’t a bit surprised by it, so it’s always a source of humor that the cocktail weenie-chompin’ crowd are.
This may be a self-correcting problem, though. It will take Wittman almost no time at all to begin to think that he’s to thank for all that Lieberman is, which will rankle Lieberman no end. I suspect that Joe will eventually find Wittman tiresome for crowding Joe out of the limelight, and Joementum will return him to the DLC, COD.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 44
sociopath.
If Hillary, Schumer, Reid were normal human beings, just think how galling to them it must be to have “almost” achieved control of the Senate.
All they had to do was back a real “Democrat” in Ned Lamont, and they wouldn’t be having this permanent case of the willies.
But like the fact the easiest person to con is another con artist, these folks are “politicians” and they actually believe other “politicians” promises.
So they all believed Joe4Joe’s whining promise to be “always a Democrat” rather than believing their own “lying eyes”.
Yah, who’d a thunk it?
Mrs. K8 @ 40
But he (Dante) liked bankers?
Time for Balrog to return to Middle Earth.
I’ve enjoyed the company over the last year; thanks to all who are making a difference in this country.
Yay Keith and Turley!
Note Turley’s shirt and tie combo on KO. How patriotic!
RevDeb @ 47
Sociopathetic!
Turley! Speak it, brother.
Is Gmail biting it for anybody else, or am I just on some lucky server?
Oh, and the key with Joe is to remind him of how many seats the Republicans have at stake in 2008 (22) vs. how many the Democrats have at stake (12).
Very, very good odds that they will consolidate their majority to the point where Lieberman’s affiliation is irrelevant. If he wants to play the Big Wheel in 2007-2008, they need to make it crystal clear that he will pay for it huge in 2009.
Jane Hamsher @ 56
Damn, that *is* a lucky server!
I still like McCain/Gingrich for ‘08. A balanced ticket. Oh. And Lieberman for National Security Adviser. Or CIA Director. Or both.
Jane Hamsher @ 55
Have an account that I never use. So far .mac seems to be one of the more reliable ones I’ve got.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 59
You don’t mean mentally, of course.
Your now and then gas and oil prices
Average price for regular gasoline 11/28/06 in 50 states and DC
$2.80 plus 1 state : Hawaii
$2.70 plus 0 states
$2.60 plus 0 states
$2.50 plus 4 states : California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington
$2.40 plus 1 state
$2.30 plus 6 states
$2.20 plus 22 states
$2.10 plus 15 states
$2.00 plus 2 states : Oklahoma, South Carolina
Average national price for regular gasoline: $2.242, down $.001 from yesterday
Most recent low: $2.196 on November 7, 2006
Highest average price: Hawaii $2.844
Lowest average price: Oklahoma $2.090
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp
Average daily change in the national average for regular gasoline beginning at the peak:
August 8-15: down .56 cents/day
August 15-22: down 1.06
August 22-29: down 1.19
Aug 29- Sept 5: down 1.54
September 5-12: down 1.7
September 12-19: down 1.8
September 19-26: down 1.7
Sept 26-Oct 3: down .9
October 3-10: down .61
October 10-17: down .56
October 17-24: down .30
October 24-31: up .11
Oct 31-Nov 7: down .2
November 7-14: up .47
November 14-21: up .05
November 21-28: up .1 cents/day
Crude Oil:
Nymex Crude Future $61.02, up $.70 from yesterday
Dated Brent Spot $60.86, up $.51
WTI Cushing Spot: $60.99, up $.67
Gas prices remain nearly flat to slowly rising. Oil appears to be reacting finally to the changing seasons. I am not sure how or when numbers showing that the economy continues to cool will be factored in.
Ok, I thought because of the last election we were backing away from the fascist cliff. KO”s show right now is scaring me.
Great piece by KO on Newt’s cracked mind.
Mentioning daily Kos as an example of a potential target for suppression is entirely appropriate. Shit, BushCo freely references certain American opinions as siding with the terrists.
Eli @ 45
And investing in those companies is such a smart stock tip, too!
;-)
Look out Floridians!!! Dead-eye Dick is in your midsts!!
Eli @ 61
Ah, McCain-Gingrich, the front-runners for the Spontaneous Combustion Party.
There you have it, Alter sez NH believes in the Constitution.
ahhh.
nice.
Shred the Constitution?
montag @ 67
Most likely to strangle on their own shirt collars.
Damn, Jane – you’vde been busy today!
It occurs to me that in reality, the Bushies run the country on a campaign of National Shittiness – this would be a great country if we didn’t have to worry about Habeas Corpus for those guilty folk, if that pesky bill of rights (except, of course, for Amendment #2) would just go away, and so on. It’s the political version of “Gee, you’d be the sexiest woman ever if you lost 20 pounds, dyed your hair blond, and became a non carbon-based life form.” I’m sure that line makes women go weak in the knees, which is good because I fear that otherwise, their knees might end up in an uncomfortable place.
It’s scary to think that Michael Douglas, in The American President, had a better grasp of this country’s soul than our current President, although since Mr. Douglas was ghostwritten by Aaron Sorkin, perhaps it makes a little sense:
It’s time for Democrats to run toward the fire, and remind people of what makes this country great. Hint: it isn’t Newt Gingrich trying to figure out what parts of our constitution to pour white-out on next so he can sleep better at night. Do you think he leaves a nightlight on so the monsters in his closet won’t get him?
Hayduke @ 53
And if I recall, he was a member of that special “Iraq Survey Group,” in on all those special meetings at the White House to market the Iraq “product.” You know, the ones where Joe Wilson came up as a topic of discussion.
Gingrich slithers around in some pretty dark alley-ways. His neo-con activities don’t get nearly enough search-lamp illumination for public inspection.
RevDeb @ 62
Yes. That…and today’s story about the Cheney cabal floating “Hezbollah via Iran is making all the trouble in Iraq”…And today’s ersatz “Stay the course; It’s all Al-Queda’s fault” from Bush.
Gimme that old time religion, boys!
Mrs. K8 @ 72
Gingroach?
Balrog @ 50
Wha?
Where are you going, dear heart?
Eli @ 73
Yes! Perfect.
Do you think he leaves a nightlight on so the monsters in his closet won’t get him?
No. I think Gingrich is one of the monsters in the closet.
Joes seems to be as popular and respected on the first blog you cite as he is here. A sampling of comments:
The man is on his way to becoming the most despised Senator in his former party.
Mutant Poodle @ 70
At that point the people in the movie theater applauded. I remember it well. I also used that passage in a sermon once.
Damn, that Sorkin can write. I only wish that one of our better dems would hire him to write for him/her!
scarecrow @ 78
In much the same way that Iraq is on its way to civil war.
Listening to Bush clips on Olbermann is striking.
RevDeb @ 79
Maybe he should start a blog. He could call it “Face The Sork”.
*struggles to decide which direction to go with “Sorkasm”*
Oklahoma kiddo @ 80
Yes, he learned a new word today, “foment.” Bully.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 80
Yeah. Like a slap in the face with a dead fish.
Gingrich is once again a power in the Republican Party to be reckoned with.
Eli @ 82
prefer “sorkism”
foment – bathe with warm water or medicated lotions; “His legs should be fomented”
Oh, Eli, are you challenging Punaise?
karen allen @ 89
Hey, it’s not like I’m new to this – it’s just that most of my best work has been at Eschaton (my all-time best was at Washington Monthly, tho).
karen allen @ 88
it’s a pun-off.
Mrs. K8 @
41
Okay, but who said this:
Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the defense of liberty is no virtue!
Bonus points: who cited this quote in his book reviews of Christine Todd Whitman and a book about “the hammer”?
Book review
RevDeb @ 90
nahhh, we pun in different circles, mostly
RevDeb @ 91
While some of us are just spun-offs…. :)
punaise @ 93
I often feel like I’m punning in circles.
Eli: my all-time best was at Washington Monthly, tho
linky?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 85
He doesn’t even hold an office! Dude is just a windbag. He has no chance of winning the nomination, he’s just looking to hear himself talk and up his fees after a Presidential bid.
scarecrow –
Goldwater.
Can’t claim the bonus points, though.
Rather than go look it up, I have to wrestle on my wetsuit to do pool therapy now. It’s a damned shame that what makes it stay warm is the same glove fit that makes it a pain in the ass to put on.
Will check back for the answer later.
And to see who wins the Pun-Off!!!
The First Twins. What do they do?
Tell Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins to join us or die the death of Lincoln Chaffee. Tell them they can divvy up Joe’s committee assignments between them however they like. Then tell Lieberman to get lost. He can be an “independent” and caucus with the other members of the Lieberman for Connecticut party. Or join the Republicans and try to be McCain’s running mate. Who cares.
Note to NSA minders: not calling for actual death of US senators. Quoting Darth Vader’s “he will join us or die, my master” line from The Empire Strikes Back.
punaise @ 96
Good Lord, it was over two years ago in one of those giant comment threads about Kerry’s military service.
Basically, to make a point about unsubstantiated claims, a bunch of the regulars started insisting that they had personally witnessed one of the resident trolls eating babies. After this went on for a while, I asked if said baby-eating had taken place on a Jonathan Swift Boat.
scarecrow @ 91
Goldwater on the first, but you got me on the book review.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 99
Run down hotel hallways naked!
This is a platform I could totally get behind. Er, so to speak.
Eli @ 100
touche!
On reflection: I don’t care what the twins do. Strike that.
Re the First Twins in Argentina. I loved Punaise’s pun: “Don’t cry for our Jenna and Twinna.”
I got nuttin. geometry is so “last thread”.
Marshall Wittmann book review…
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm…..tid=253220
Um, at the risk of pointing out the obvious, Joe Lieberman is not a Democrat. So when the Democrats have a private meeting of their press secretaries, I don’t see why Joe’s would be there.
punaise @ 107
So we’re not talking about Triggy Dick?
Frank Probst @ 108
works for me. But the dems often don’t see the obvious.
Eli @ 103
Boy could I run with this. But I won’t. For now.
Good that Biden will be holding hearings on Iraq–
but his carving up of the country is completely wrong, imho.
punaise @ 107
But triangulation is so this-thread. :)
cleter @ 100
Snowe was just re-elected. Not sure when Collins is up. They’re both still “New England Republicans”, and I don’t think their party affiliation will hurt them much.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 111
just don’t run with scissors.
angie @ 113
If Friedman is “The Moustache Of Understanding”, does that make Biden “The Hair Plugs Of Wisdom”?
Eli @ 109
not from the Checkers speech: “I am not a rook”
Eli @ 117
yep.
RevDeb @ 111
We should FAX Harry Reid the results of Connecticut’s Democratic primary.
punaise @ 118
But much like our current occupant, he was always trying to get kinged.
montag @ 114
Oh boy! Are we back to arithmetic? I do like trigonometry.
Frank Probst @ 115
Sen. Richard Shelby was elected as a Democrat in 94, and jumped ship shortly thereafter when the Senate changed hands. Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell jumped from D to R right after the changeover as well. Collins and Snowe could do the same. It’s not unprecedented, is my point.
Eli @ 121
No one more deserving of getting crowned.
“Pearly Whites” Biden strikes me as one of those types who, while in conversation with you, is actually not so discretely catching glimpses of himself in the nearest reflective surface.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 122
I’m seeing sines that this thread is about to go off on a tangent…
Frank Probst @ 114
Collins is up for reelection. FYI the Maine house (?) just went from a majority of 1 dem to a majority of 30!. The state is going bluer by the day. Can Collins be persuaded that it is in her interest? dunno, but from 1 to 30 is quite a shift and sends a message.
Frank Probst @ 108
If the solution is as simple as that, then by all means.
punaise @ 125
And is always disappointed that there aren’t any….
punaise @ 125
Then why the plugs? He should have just invested in some polish, so he could look in the mirror and see himself reflected endlessly.
Frank Probst @ 119
Maybe if we write it on helium balloons and have them delivered. Faxes just don’t seem to get the attention they once did.
RevDeb @ 131
Not on this side of the blogosphere, anyway.
Eli @ 129
as someone who sports a *ahem* John Hall haircut (current version), guess I’m just jealous…
Eli @ 125
No, we are trying to send them a sine.
Biden’s habit of strangely inappropriate rictus smiles in the midst of solemn pronouncements used to be his most distinguishing characteristic. But now, I think it’s those strange tooth-like objects glistening in his head. It’s like he’s wearing Mr Ed’s highly polished dentures.
RevDeb @ 134
Try writing a diary at Daily Cos.
RevDeb @ 134
About a zero.
montag @ 137
All he can think about is “i”, but his importance is largely imaginary, as is his complexity.
please take the non-zig pledge.
“three zigs and a cloud of dust”
Eli @ 138
Hopefully, that means his days are numbered….
montag @ 140
No, just irrational.
oops, nearly forgot my daily mantra:
my contempt for Joe Lieberman will never subside.
Mo Rocca gets to clue us in on Barbarella and Jenna twinna. I can’t wait.
And BillO gets the Worst Person again. It’s getting to be too easy.
Eli @ 138
Can’t divide by zero. It’s undefined.
I love imaginary numbers! And primes pump me up.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 144
I think you’re fibbin’, actually.
Zigs. OMG. Did I blow it?
routine zig maintenance
punaise @ 142
Joe Biden’s horse-dentures I cannot abide.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 146
No problem here, but my resolution goes 1680 across…
punaise @ 141
Mine knows no bounds.
Do you suppose we could find that Zulu witch doctor (I think that’s what he was) that hexed W. and hire him to “complicate” Joe’s life a bit?
Eli @ 145
I am…
cleter @ 148
So, is Joe B. on a quest to make *everything* above his neck artifical?
punaise @ 142
At Dem party meetings he can go wait outside.
Eli @ 144
Leon me, brother
WASHINGTON – In a revealing test of her leadership, House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., on Tuesday rejected a once-impeached congressman to head the House Intelligence Committee, a move that could blunt early criticism that she’s paying only lip service to ethics reform.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld…..117520.htm
Eli @ 152
Umm, I don’t think Biden is into Artificial Intelligence. Or any kind, for that matter….
From Reuters:
OK. Now what?
Looking at THE twins on Olbermann, one thing’s for sure. These two know how to chew gum.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 158
but can they walk at the same time.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 158
Does it happen at the same time they are walking?
doh!
Eli @ 141
A rash, all in all, is what Lieberman deserves.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 158
Isn’t chewing gum one of those emergency alcohol-breath-neutralization strategies?
Balrog @ 50
y’all come back now, hear?
punaise @ 154
Not adding up for me, but trig was not my strong suit. Hated the slide ruler.
Arianna on Scarborough. I’m in love. Again.
Buchanan sure looks grim, doesn’t he? What a sourpuss.
Scarborough is obsessed with the Daily Show. I rarely watch the Scar but every time I do, he spends much of the show talking about Stewart and Colbert. I think he’s in love
bg @ 164
Leonardo Fibonacci
the book which later held sway at the piano bar of the Golden Nugget in Vegas.
twolf1 @ 167
I think that NBC owns Comedy Central. Haven’t seen Jon touting Scarborough though.
the book which later held sway at the piano bar of the Golden Nugget in Vegas.
Yo. Rhythm. Got that.
Daniel Webster is my BFF.
So punaise, are you going to turn this Fibonacci thing into a series?
Balrog @
51
Balrog, I hope we keep seeing you here – and I hope all is well with you.
Beware the Zirakzigil – and come back soon.
Hugh @ 172
Ah, who wants to waste time on Gingrich? He’s just another fibbin’ Nazi.
RevDeb @ 167
Gawd. Buchanan has lost his mind. Arianna has not.
montag @ 174
Calling Gingrich a Nazi is… kinda derivative, don’t you think? And not really integral to the conversation.
Eli @ 176
Au contraire, it is his point of origin.
Are we back to zero?
montag @ 177
Ar dee ar ar. (To borrow from the first-ever Simpsons episode)
newish thread
you’ve got your known nodes, your known un-nodes, and your unknown un-nodes.
RevDeb @
60
Riseup.net provides free email (and list serve hosting) to progressive social change activists, so both of your work falls into their service mission.
If either of you desire a riseup account, please let me know and I will send you invite codes.
punaise @ 181
Too bad that the Bushies are unable to solve for the unknown….
omg
Senate Dems thought RGJoe wouldn’t send a spy? The alternatives being [dangerstein] and TammySun, I’d say the Dem flacks got off easy.
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kirk murphy @ 181
Kirk, don’t need it personally, but there’s a new network of UU activists just starting up that might be interested in the list function. I’d be interested in getting them plugged in. I’m at my handle at mac dot com. Thanks!
Eli @ 101
707!!!
I asked if said baby-eating had taken place on a Jonathan Swift Boat.
positively brobdingnagian
heh.
Hayduke @
97
He’s setting himself up as BigTime’s replacement, if needed. Junja won’t feel threatened, and Newtie knows the Hill. Could work.
TeddySanFran @
189
W, after the inevitable Gingrich betrayal: “Et tu, Newtus?”
punaise @ 190
hee-hee
hey kirk! better day at the office today?
wow, i’m caught up!
punaise @ 192
(
Hi punaise!
Thanks for asking … ;) and today was good.
Just about every day at the clinic is good. I get paid to help people. How cool is that? :)
Some days my LGBT patients’ life stories make me really angry – to an unhealthy extent. No such stories today.
My splashes in the Lake will be happy (and civil) ones.
Thanks for the Mulligan.
Nothing excuses my failure to discern friend from foe (and I had read Glenn’s Christianist piece, so I just blew the pattern recognition. MY bad.).
The only reason I’d like to describe the following is to Firepups with a vignette from the frontlines of the Right’s war on families – otherwise known as the Culture War.
Before moving to San Francisco three years ago, I was ignorant of the City’s role as a national refuge for teens thrown out of their homes for their biology – for being queer.
I remember media before Hate radio, Hate preachers, and Hate TV.
The worst depiction of gay people would be arch jokes about someone like Paul Lynde.
How scared could we be of a Hollywood Square?
What could he do to us – erase our “X” and “O”?
Lots of my disowned patients grew up learning they were queer and watching their parents learning to hate queer people.
Their parents were watching and listening to the Reich Wing’s Hate Media – wholly owned subsidiaries of the Mighty Wurlitzer.
So the cynical preachers and pundits doing meth with rentboys and underage Dominicans don’t believe the LGBT-bashing rhetoric, but the audience does.
And they toss out their kids, who come to SF as soon as they can and show up in clinic as adults.
Internally displaced refugees of the “Culture War” – a shiny object devised to divert attention from the global megacorps’ takeover of our media, government, and resources.
So my patients – and their credulous parents and riven families – were just collateral damage in the pillage of America’s democracy and wealth.
Some clinic days, the stories are too much.
(but I’ll defer my Lake dips on those days ’til I’m out of the stories’ grip.)
Balrog @ 51
We will miss you. I hope you aren’t leaving for any sad reasons or misunderstandings, if so please talk with us? You are an important part of our community.
Please come back when you can.
Balrog, we’ll miss you, precious. Drop by anytime – you don’t need to call first.