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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/27/uh-ohwurlitzer-down-wurlitzer-down/#comment-396674</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-396632&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cozumel @&lt;br /&gt;
                126              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Senior Rice aide, Philip Zelikow resigns from post &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Philip Zelikow, one of U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s closest advisers on Iraq and the Middle East, will quit his post to return to university teaching, a State Department official said on Monday.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061127/pl_nm/usa_zelikow_dc&quot;&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200.....zelikow_dc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Had Enough&lt;/em&gt; I guess&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Body blow to Rice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-396632"><em>Cozumel @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Senior Rice aide, Philip Zelikow resigns from post </p>
<p>WASHINGTON (Reuters) &#8211; Philip Zelikow, one of U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s closest advisers on Iraq and the Middle East, will quit his post to return to university teaching, a State Department official said on Monday.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061127/pl_nm/usa_zelikow_dc">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200&#8230;..zelikow_dc</a></p>
<p><em>Had Enough</em> I guess</p>
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<p>Body blow to Rice.</p>
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		<title>By: Bargain Countertenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bargain Countertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m in EPU country, but I don’t think this is a real civil war — it’s worse than a real civil war.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The more apt description is John Locke’s description (from &lt;i&gt;Leviathan&lt;/i&gt;) of the war of all against all.  The Sunni (Ba’athist remnants, I guess) are up against Shia around Baghdad, sure.  But there are also Shia militias going at it down around Basra (al Sadr’s Mahdi Army against another Shia militia), and Sunnis knocking heads out west.  There is some low-level ethnic cleansing going on up north, where the Kurd’s are clearing out ethnic Arabs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a f***ing mess, is what it is.  A conventional civil war pits a government against an insurrection (e.g., the American Civil War, the Nigeria/Biafra mess of the 1970s, the Vietnamese civil colonial war of 1948-1975, etc.  In the Mess O’Potamia (acknowledgement to Jon Stewart et al.) things aren’t nearly so organized.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BC&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m in EPU country, but I don’t think this is a real civil war — it’s worse than a real civil war.</p>
<p>The more apt description is John Locke’s description (from <i>Leviathan</i>) of the war of all against all.  The Sunni (Ba’athist remnants, I guess) are up against Shia around Baghdad, sure.  But there are also Shia militias going at it down around Basra (al Sadr’s Mahdi Army against another Shia militia), and Sunnis knocking heads out west.  There is some low-level ethnic cleansing going on up north, where the Kurd’s are clearing out ethnic Arabs.</p>
<p>It’s a f***ing mess, is what it is.  A conventional civil war pits a government against an insurrection (e.g., the American Civil War, the Nigeria/Biafra mess of the 1970s, the Vietnamese civil colonial war of 1948-1975, etc.  In the Mess O’Potamia (acknowledgement to Jon Stewart et al.) things aren’t nearly so organized.</p>
<p>BC</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Crazy Horse @ 135,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was using the term as it’s used here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Good_German_Syndrome.html&quot;&gt;http://www.thirdworldtraveler......drome.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Believe me, I was not joking.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazy Horse @ 135,</p>
<p>I was using the term as it’s used here:<br />
<a href="http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Good_German_Syndrome.html">http://www.thirdworldtraveler&#8230;&#8230;drome.html</a><br />
Believe me, I was not joking.</p>
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		<title>By: i heart jane</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/27/uh-ohwurlitzer-down-wurlitzer-down/#comment-396653</link>
		<dc:creator>i heart jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-396603&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Twisted Martini @&lt;br /&gt;
                97              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Holy shit, Pam Anderson is divorcing Kid Rock.  We need to ban Celebrity Marriage!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i heard that BORAT finally bagger her;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-396603"><em>Twisted Martini @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Holy shit, Pam Anderson is divorcing Kid Rock.  We need to ban Celebrity Marriage!</p>
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<p>i heard that BORAT finally bagger her;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jacqrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacqrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-396647&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dr. Bong @ 140&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jacqrat: &lt;i&gt;I’m having trouble deciding whether September or October is the most disgustingly staged photo-op.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I couldn’t even bring myself to clicky the linky for fear I’d burst into flames at the mere sight of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;:-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be Safe!  Spark up bongs, not eyeballs!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-396647"><em>Dr. Bong @ 140</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Jacqrat: <i>I’m having trouble deciding whether September or October is the most disgustingly staged photo-op.</i></p>
<p>I couldn’t even bring myself to clicky the linky for fear I’d burst into flames at the mere sight of it.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
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<p>Be Safe!  Spark up bongs, not eyeballs!</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;new thread&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new thread</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/27/uh-ohwurlitzer-down-wurlitzer-down/#comment-396648</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-396531&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;scarecrow @ 27 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;But here’s his [Greenwald’s]conclusion:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;At first I thought that the media’s obsession with smearing Pelosi was some combination of its adolescent cravings for cattle-like demonization of the unpopular, loser Democrats, combined with the surprisingly (at least to me) strong and obvious discomfort with a woman being this politically powerful in her own right…But now I believe that what is really responsible for this amazing obsession with undermining Nancy Pelosi before she even starts — over matters as seemingly irrelevant (in the grand scheme of things) as Steny Hoyer and Jane Harman, no less — is that institutionalized Beltway personalities fear a repudiation of the rotten system on which they depend and of which they are such integral parts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Glenn Greenwald is an amazingly fair-minded man. I would never have given the “institutionalized Beltway personalities” so much benefit of the doubt as a three-week waiting period before I decided they were demonizing Pelosi in hopes of drawing attention away from the hand they so obviously have stuck in the cookie jar.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-396531"><em>scarecrow @ 27 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>But here’s his [Greenwald’s]conclusion:</p>
<blockquote><p>At first I thought that the media’s obsession with smearing Pelosi was some combination of its adolescent cravings for cattle-like demonization of the unpopular, loser Democrats, combined with the surprisingly (at least to me) strong and obvious discomfort with a woman being this politically powerful in her own right…But now I believe that what is really responsible for this amazing obsession with undermining Nancy Pelosi before she even starts — over matters as seemingly irrelevant (in the grand scheme of things) as Steny Hoyer and Jane Harman, no less — is that institutionalized Beltway personalities fear a repudiation of the rotten system on which they depend and of which they are such integral parts.</p>
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<p>Glenn Greenwald is an amazingly fair-minded man. I would never have given the “institutionalized Beltway personalities” so much benefit of the doubt as a three-week waiting period before I decided they were demonizing Pelosi in hopes of drawing attention away from the hand they so obviously have stuck in the cookie jar.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Bong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Bong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jacqrat: &lt;i&gt;I’m having trouble deciding whether September or October is the most disgustingly staged photo-op.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I couldn’t even bring myself to clicky the linky for fear I’d burst into flames at the mere sight of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;:-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacqrat: <i>I’m having trouble deciding whether September or October is the most disgustingly staged photo-op.</i></p>
<p>I couldn’t even bring myself to clicky the linky for fear I’d burst into flames at the mere sight of it.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
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		<title>By: ccmask</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/27/uh-ohwurlitzer-down-wurlitzer-down/#comment-396645</link>
		<dc:creator>ccmask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;July &amp; August on that calendar are priceless…eek.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>July &amp; August on that calendar are priceless…eek.</p>
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		<title>By: ccmask</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccmask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wrt Keith Olberman and his write-up in the LA Times:&lt;br /&gt;
The Los Angeles Times is recognizing what many of us have already realized– that Keith Olbermann is not a voice crying in the wilderness.&lt;br /&gt;
The subhead of the Times piece says it all–&lt;br /&gt;
“Anti-Bush views have driven up the ratings of the former sportscaster’s MSNBC show.”&lt;br /&gt;
snip&lt;br /&gt;
“People just think, ‘He speaks for me,’ ” said Jane Hamsher, a Mill Valley, Calif., author who runs a liberal blog at firedoglake.com. “There was no resonance within the media for their perspective, and suddenly Keith came on the scene and gave voice to these long-simmering feelings of disgust with the war.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/27/65526/365&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...../65526/365&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wrt Keith Olberman and his write-up in the LA Times:<br />
The Los Angeles Times is recognizing what many of us have already realized– that Keith Olbermann is not a voice crying in the wilderness.<br />
The subhead of the Times piece says it all–<br />
“Anti-Bush views have driven up the ratings of the former sportscaster’s MSNBC show.”<br />
snip<br />
“People just think, ‘He speaks for me,’ ” said Jane Hamsher, a Mill Valley, Calif., author who runs a liberal blog at firedoglake.com. “There was no resonance within the media for their perspective, and suddenly Keith came on the scene and gave voice to these long-simmering feelings of disgust with the war.” </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/27/65526/365">http://www.dailykos.com/storyo&#8230;../65526/365</a></p>
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