
From the NYTimes article today on the Bush efforts to "define their legacy" (their words, not mine):
The president’s own party remains angry with him for his handling of the war, the delayed ouster of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and the low presidential approval ratings that contributed to this fall’s Republican wipeout.
Senior Republican staff members in Congress have voiced the fear that Mr. Bush will now put his legacy over the party’s immediate future, and take his cues from President Bill Clinton by “triangulating” when opportunity strikes — that is, making deals with Democrats, over Republican objections, on immigration, health care or Social Security.
“While the White House is trying to define their legacy, they’ll try to triangulate us,” said one senior Republican leadership aide who requested anonymity to speak candidly. “There is no sense of wanting to defend the Bush administration right now.”
Here's the thing about accountability: you don't get to pass the buck when you've been right there, all along, rubber stamping everything President Bush has wanted for years. It's your legacy, too, Republican rubber stamp Congress. How's that working for you?
The failures of George Bush? Well, they accrue to the Republican-controlled Congress and to the Republican party as a whole, for propping up this idiocy for more than five years. All those signing statements and thumbing of the Presidential nose at the Constitution and the separation of powers? Blame the GOP. And so on and so forth.
The Republicans in Congress just elected themselves…the same old same old when it comes to leadership, in both houses. You think they have learned anything from the prior elections, other than "we'd like to cling to power with everything we have, pass out goodies to our cronies every chance we get, and screw the little guy?" Me neither.
So here's a message to Republicans in Congress: you want to blame someone for the failures of the Bush Administration, blame yourselves. It's a mess of your own making, signed, sealed and delivered, with every rubber stamping that you so happily gave George Bush when your earmarks and cronies trough ranneth over. The failures you want to blame on George Bush? They are Republican failures — failures of leadership, failures of ethics, failures of having a spine outside the threats that Karl Rove issued as edicts from on high regarding campaign donations. And big fat failures of policies that lead to nowhere other than filling the pockets of your cronies.
You want to assess some blame, GOP? Try looking in the mirror. Because you shut the Democrats out of the process from the day you took over both houses of Congress, and never looked back. Whatever failures have accrued, they have accrued on your watch, on your doorstep, and on your terms.
Accountability knocks…and so does history. And it isn't looking good for the GOP, is it?
More on the GOP attempt to recover from its "thumpin'" from the NYTimes and the WaPo.



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Holy crap… Fitz?
Definitely Fitz!
once again, general ma’am, you done outdid yore charmin’ self. beware the wrath of la redd!
fahrender at 3 — I’ve just had it with the “pass the buck” whining that anonymous Republicans are doing in the media. Sure, George Bush does suck. But the entire GOP has been right there sucking along with him, every step of the way. And it is high time they were called on it.
Accountability knocks…SHHH! Hide, pretend there’s no one home!
Good one, Christy. The rubber stamp meme never gets old. These guys do have some ’splainin’ to do, once they get over their tantrums. Heh, it just fits, tho, don’it? The Party of Perpetual Adolescence whines “But we didn’t do it, it was…that guy!”
Sorry, guys, we have video.
Goopers know that the voters have short memories- so they will spend two years “attacking” GW Clusterfuck and pretend that the previous six years never happened.
Unfortunately- it may work. (course their opponents will have a voting record to remind voters of the truth.)
I don’t know RW, things are so fucked up in so many different places I think it is going to be hard to make people forget.
I can understand the sentiment, but I have a hard time seeing Bush taking cues from Clinton on anything. Given the track record (N Korea, Iraq, etc.), I’d bet on exactly the opposite. Bush has made his legacy as the anti-Clinton, and will try to recover his legacy by pushing back hard on the Dems for the next two years. The storyline he wants to write is simple: “After setbacks in the 2006 midterms, Bush led his party back to power in 2008 by standing up to the liberals . . .”
There’s just one problem with that. Accountability’s a bitch.
Waxman . . . Leahy . . . Conyers . . . Subpeonas . . . Sworn (!) testimony by administration officials . . . Cameras . . . Questions . . . Questions . . . Questions!
Accountability – it’s what’s for breakfast. Hope you’ve got a good appetite, George.
MoDo could learn from this post!
Peterr at 8 — is it January, yet? ;-) Because I’m awfully hungry…
Congress doesn’t want to get stuck holding the shitty end of the stick?
They better get their collective asses in gear and join in the upcoming IMPEACHMENT party.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 10
Subpoena cakes and humble pie?
dear, dear,…what will they say when the barrels of tar and bails of feathers arrive? Oh, did they forget?
How about a man-sized shitburger Fredo?
rwcole @ 6
not if we have enough people like Redd and Jane and Pach and (name your own writers) to keep reminding them of their culpability. this is as important as anything else we have to do. we nail them and we keep nailing them. republicans, dinos, doesn’t matter. we’re gonna be busier ‘n a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest.
FWIW, the reader responses to Peter Baker’s WaPo article, (Christy linked to it, almost unanimously rip Baker for being to easy on Bush.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 10
Not quite, but I’m guessing that Waxman isn’t the only committee chair trying to sort through the weeds to figure out where to start, so they can hit the ground running when they get the gavels in hand. I’m guessing that the wish lists have been compiled, and now the committee chairs are figuring out who will take on what problems.
But there won’t be much fighting over jurisdiction. There’s enough to go around for everyone to get in on the Accountability game.
Still, I’m picturing a lot of requests (polite or accompanied by a subpeona) that will land on the administration in the first hundred hours.
And speaking of ongoing republican FUs, what about the manipulation of gas prices? Regular here (Union 76, SF bay area) went from a low of $2.29 the day before the election (to the droning accompaniment of announcements that the market had stabilized itself, and gas prices ‘probably’ wouldn’t go down anymore) up to $2.43 last week–and is heading north. Surprise?
Me, I’m still getting over the irony of Trent Lott as Minority Whip…
Ranneth? I love it!
A great reply via Driftglass to Southern Lady, and her ilk.
I love these tubz.
Wow, more wingnut welfare dollars…Fredo is looking for $500 mil to build his library and a think (HAH) tank at SMU in Dallas. They are calling it “The Institute for Democracy ‘n Stuff”.
How many copies of My Pet Goat can it hold?
http://www.nydailynews.com/fro…..9492c.html
Peterr @ 8
I think you’re right. Bush will try to stop the Dems at every turn, and then try to paint them as “do nothing”. The MSM will go along with this meme in their usual mode of Republican enablers.
Christy – You need to quit holding back and tell it like it is. You’re just too shy about those sort of things – not.
Great rant and I couldn’t agree with you more. What a nice lunchtime pick me up. Thanks.
Real men fix their mistakes.
They are not left behind for the children.
Napolean referred to the Bourbon Kings as “the hereditary asses” of Europe. After they were exiled and then returned to power, Talleyrand famously remarked, “In their exile they forgot nothing and learned nothing.” This is just what I expecting from our nation’s hereditary asses, the Bourbon Republicans.
The “Library” in Dallas has not been planned other than where the extensive blocks of restrooms will be located. Crappers already on order.
The library will be interactive though. An acre of “brush” will be grown so visitors can help clear it. You can also simulate choking on a pretzel, and try to dodge policeman on a simulated mountain bike.
Is there a German word that describes one’s demise from an excess of schadenfreude ?
It will also have a voice modulator, that will take your words and butcher them so you can sound just like the real thing!
BEE..RAHH..VO! BRAVO.
Amazin’ how shit sticks especially when you’ve called for no investigations,passed egregious tax cuts,labeled liberals as traitors,swallowed hard the IRAQ fiasco and ABRAMOFF and NEY etc;….
The beauty of a demogogue like the chimpster, is that he brings the Narcissus down with him. The shit is sticky, too. It leaves a trail everywhere.
And Dems remember.
Wow, powerful writing Christy.
Dems, congressional goopers, and Clusterfuck each have their own agendas at this point.
Goopers want to paint the dems as tax and spend liberals with no regard to national defense (as always) and to disassociate themslelves from their president. (as one of em said the other day- there’s ZERO point in supporting Bush.)
Dems want to show that they’re responsible americans who should be trusted to lead the country..
Clusterfuck wants to save his legacy- and he doesn’t give a shit who he has to slam or sleep with to do it. His best opportunity is with the dems- to do some joint support for a few big “centerist” programs..while searching for an international opportunity to go out a statesman..
This is goin ta be one big fuckin mess- as usual.
Twisted Martini @ 22
My recommended think tank name: “The George W. Bush Institute for Politicians Who Can’t Think Good and Want to Do Policy Stuff Good Too.”
Twisted at 28 — OMG! That truly needs a spew warning. I am now covered in tea. HAHAHAHAHAHA It was the dodging the policeman on a mountain bike that did it…
FLASH!! WaPo’s David Broder discovers that Democrats won the mid-term elections!
A Democratic Tidal Wave in New Hamshire
Of course this was “unburied” and reported here and at kos and by Howie on election night, but the Dean of the Washington press corp apparently doesn’t read blogs.
The President has left the building!! and is on his way to pow wow with World Leaders…
Meanwhile- a grateful nation turns it’s eyes to Estonia, Latvia, and Jordan- to see if the the work of the witch doctor is still operative–
Clusterfuck killed ONE policeman on his last diplomatic soiree– what will happen on THIS one?
The Rethugs are going to be pretty damn busy trying to shut down C-Span on the Hearings, for all the world to see, and Lawyering Up if they haven’t already. The jig is up.
rw at 37 — don’t forget the multiple flat tires, the mugged advance staffer and the stolen cell phone of Not Jenna’s. So sad…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 39
I have twenty bucks that says Daddy wasn’t on the speed dial.
Planning the location of a library is like everything else in real estate and business – location, location, location.
In that vein, Bush’s library needs to have some good neighbors. Could we put Molly Ivins’ library of punditry next door? Perhaps the Wingnut Hall of Fame could be across the street. You’ve got to eat, so what about opening a Dallas-based branch of Signatures, Abramoff’s place, just down the block?
Redd- Not to mention Clusterfuck Sr. gettin the shit kicked out of him at his “business” speech in the middle east.. It was an ugly trip all round- an here we go again!!!
Whoopee- we’re all gonna die!
scarecrow @ 36
Oh, I am so relieved. Now we can start celebrating in NH! Yippee.
And in more good news for those of us that have been tongue tied (not) NBC and MSNBC say I can call The Iraq Occupation a civil war.
Permission granted from the Corporate Media!
Peterr @ 41
And next door on the other side, the Richard B. Cheney Center for Research in Leadership Snarling.
The “neighbors” of Clusterfuck’s library will be University Park and Highland Park (the legendary home of rich and fucked up Dallasites- which will undoubtedly house Clusterfuck as well- ya didn’t REALLY think he was gonna live at the Pig Farm did ya?”
Highland Parkers have the lowest book budget per capita in america–but the highest budget for Scotch Whiskey…
Very appropriate neighbors.
Heh, rw, yep. Except I wouldn’t honor him with the words ‘pow wow’. A true Pow Wow is about gathering, and telling the Truth. He’s incapable of the truth or reality or compromise.
HotFlash — you out there? Left you something in the basement. You know, I never did get that email I think you said you sent last week. Did you use rayne_today -at- yahoo.com?
EvilDrPuma — heh. Was funny without the “Snarling” added at the end. Cheney. Leadership. Heh. [-snort-]
“And next door on the other side, the Richard B. Cheney Center for Research in Leadership Snarling”
And right next door to THAT is the Dick Cheney Rifle Range, where all the targets are right behind you.
Bush doesn’t have a (leg)acy to stand on?
I like this definition…” A legacy system is an antiquated computer system or application program which continues to be used because the user (typically an organization) does not want to replace or redesign it.
Jack
Shez–maybe “hob nob” with his fellow wizards?
And speaking of accountability, today’s the day Froomkin returns from vacation.
And the crowd goes wild! ((clapping, whistling, cheering, etc.))
Wonder who he’ll have in his sights today . . .
Anyone else here familiar with SMU (where Laura was apparently the campus Mary Jane Queen?)
Once went to the book store there to find a book that wasn’t available in commercial book stores- it was stuffed with expensive sweatshirts and funny hats- it was a struggle to find any books at all- Clusterfuck picked the perfect spot for his “Library”..
Senior Republican staff members in Congress have voiced the fear that Mr. Bush will now put his legacy over the party’s immediate future…
Mr. Bush’s legacy is a reckless, disastrous foreign policy, symbolized by Iraq and Lebanon, a careless, incompetent domestic policy, symbolized by Katrina, and a history of undermining the rule of law both here and abroad, symbolized by torture at Abu Ghraib, Gitmo,CIA gulags and the Military Commissions Act, warrantless domestic eavesdropping by NSA, and signing statements; neither he nor the Republican Party has any choice about whether Bush will “put his legacy over the party’s immediate future.” That legacy defines their future, whether they want it that way or not. Great post Christy.
“there’s thumpin’ happening here
what it is, that’s exactly clear”
OT: This is going to go well.
That last sentence deserves a rimshot. Oh, the humanity, the humanity!
all together now: my contempt for Joe Lieberman _________.
will never subside.
punaise @ 56
So name the executive skill that Clusterfuck excells at:
1) Selecting and retaining the most qualified executive team available for key jobs in the organization.
2)Setting the mission for the organization in specific quantifiable terms
3)Examining the mission of each work group to make certain that it is consistent with the overall organizational mission.
4) Examining the progress of each work group to make certain that goals are attained and that specific and measurable progress is occuring.
5) Ensuring accountability of each subordinate.
6) Ensuring that the organization has the resources needed to accomplish the mission.
rwcole @ 52
In the mid to late 80’s I went to a two day business seminar there. Pretty campus, full of rich kids. Lots of Porches, Rolls, Bentleys. That was the first time I’d ever seen a car phone.
A Dubya presnitzial library is as hard to imagine as a Reagan comic book library.
What are they going to do to accomodate his dickslexia, have individuals standing around reciting books and papers to visitors? Does Bush actually read anything?
How could they get around having a copy of “My Pet Goat” at such a library? It was what he had in his hands at, what he’d have to say was, THE MOMENT of his preznitency; it made his preznitcy in his mind.
Would they present it upside down…for authenticity?
It’s such a joke I can’t hardly imagine George or his assistants coming up with a good ‘proper’ solution.
punaise @ 54
. . . There’s a gal with a gavel over there,
tellin’ me I got to beware . . .
angie @ 43
Yep. And I can’t wait until we’re allowed to say other obvious things:
Bush and Cheney lied us into an unnecessary war that killing hundreds of thousands, and then lost the war
Bush and Cheney undermined Lebanonese democracy
Bush and Cheney policies have destabilized the entire ME, fostered more terrorisms and made Israel less secure.
Bush and Cheney (Rummy and others) committed war crimes; Gonzales and Yoo and Addington and lawless and should be disbarred.
Bush and Cheney (and NSA) are committing felonies every day in violating FISA
The Bush/Cheney regime is a danger to us all and should be removed/hounded from office.
The current Israeli leadership is just as bad.
Prominently on display will be the presidential paper shredder- where most of Clusterfuck’s papers are headed- cause they’re too embarassing to put on public display.
yup, scarecrow.
Bush and Cheney lost Afghanistan too.
More Clusterfuckin goin on according to Raw Story:
“Republican “squabbles” may result in an early adjournment of Congress, with spending bills “punted” to Democrats, according to a Capitol Hill newspaper.
“A squabble among Republicans over spending bills makes it increasingly likely that the House will finish its business by the end of next week, with the Senate shutting down operations soon after,” Emily Pierce reports for Roll Call.
“Given that GOP conservatives have prevented their colleagues on the House and Senate Appropriations panels from moving forward with plans to pass the nine remaining spending bills as an omnibus package, Republicans leaders are now expected to punt the issue to next year’s Democratic-led Congress rather than take the time to piece together major spending legislation,” the article continues.
According to one senior Senate GOP aide, “It could mean we would adjourn much earlier than most pundits think — certainly well before the Christmas deadline.”
Excerpts from article:
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Some GOP aides warned that Sens. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) may have made a serious miscalculation when they stopped Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) from sending the military construction spending bill to conference with the House — a maneuver that would have given GOP leaders a vehicle on which to build an omnibus.
“We don’t even have a platform to build anything on. … So they won the day,” said one senior Senate GOP leadership staffer, who added that Coburn and his allies likely would have a hard time stopping Democrats from having their way next year with the spending bills. “In the end, I don’t think this is something conservatives can win on,” the staffer said. “
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Success has a thousand fathers but failure is an orphan.
The rethugs are furiously trying to tie this ugly ass orphan war to the dems.
angie @ 64
Don’t worry. At the next Washington Correspondent’s Dinner, I’m sure there will be comic video of the President searching for Afghanistan under his desk.
Famous words that don’t go together:
“Gooper genius”
LMAO rw, hob nob works for me!
The Rethugs are going to piss and moan for all of Dec, but come Jan the cold light of day (and Dems) is going to clear up some of their putrid fog machines they’ve been billowing out for years trying to hide the truths from Americans.
I plan of having more fun tonight at pool leagues watching more wingnut heads explode again like last week when I correct them, I say it’s President Pelosi on the horizon and about damn time. These idjits have to double team me to even try to keep up. They mention Faux News etc., and I snort my drink out my nose at them. My, my, they are touchy about ridicule aren’t they. They sneer at Liberals and I do more than glare. They have no clue, no answers, no credibility, no understanding, and NO EXCUSE.
Will folks be able to check out books on a faith based system?
Suggested names for a couple of areas..
The worst wing…
How do you spell FIMA?
More bombs, not books.
Hey New Orleans Public Schools, I’ve got your text books!
Peterr @ 61
Ya got to watch, George, what’s that sound?
Everybody knows what’s comin’ down…
Uh. Mah. Gawd.
Guess who MSNBC is using as a Democratic strategist on camera? Yep, our old pal Richard Goodstein…first Dangerstein, and now this yahoo. Has MSNBC turned into the former Lieberman staffer welfare society?
Former President Carter is taking heat from the Dems (Pelosi and Conyers!) for his plain speaking:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._1127.html
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep…
Congress critters find that they are unable to attend the last sessions of the gooper congress:
“Smells like death in there–a dirge- better ta head ta Georgetown early and start drinkin”
I’m quite sure you guys already know, but….
A Honolulu Police Department officer was among loved ones yesterday when he died at The Queen’s Medical Center, five days after being critically injured in a motorcycle crash while escorting President Bush’s motorcade at Hickam Air Force Base.
Steve Favela, 30, an eight-year HPD officer described as a devoted husband, father and son, died at 11:15 a.m., leaving behind a wife and four young children, according to department spokesman Capt. Frank Fujii.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser……/1001/NEWS
Heck ofajob Brownie- Heck ofajob Rummy–Heck ofajob Ashcroft—all these and more will be ensconced in the Clusterfuck library as stuffed memoirs of the presiden’t people pickin skills.
ccmask at 76 — oh no! Last I saw he seemed to be stabilizing. What a shame — and what a loss for his family. Has there been any determination made on accident causation with this? I hadn’t seen any accident report info up til now, although I haven’t looked the last day or so because my schedule has been crazy. Has anyone seen anything on that?
“there’s thumpin’ happening here
what it is, that’s exactly clear”
. . . There’s a gal with a gavel over there,
tellin’ me I got to beware . . .
Ya got to watch, George, what’s that sound?
Everybody knows what’s comin’ down…
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep…
It starts when you’re always afraid
Step outta line, Grandma Speaker comes
To take you away…
Glenn hit another one out of the park in today’s post. A snippet:
Gets in a take on the “mean girls” meme to round out another in a string of “I wish I could write like that” masterpieces.
Redd–The cops were on motorcycles protecting our beloved president and it was rainy and slippery- that’s all I’ve heard.
It may turn out that the motorcade was goin faster than it should cause Clusterfuck had ta go pee pee or because he was so scared of terrorists that they were afraid he’d soil his linen.
Holy crap — the UPS guy just delivered the bulk of my Christmas orders all at once. My kitchen is now covered in boxes. Aiiiyyyeeeee! “Santa” had better find some hiding places and quickly before a small Peanut comes home from preschool.
We’ve NEVER had a president who was so fuckin paranoid about bein shot.
Hard to even remember Clinton goin out for jogs and stoppin at the McDonald’s fer a snack..
rwcole @ 82
That’s what concerns me, but so far there’s no way to tell whether Bush, a member of his staff, or the Secret Service gave orders that endangered the escorts under the weather conditions in question. If it was so wet and slippery, then the motorcade should have slowed down for its own safety to prevent hydroplaning; I’m not sure I give Bush’s people any credit for that kind of intelligence or consideration.
rwcole @
37
The broccoli voodoo seems to have long-distance friend-of-Bush effect as well, in that yesterday Berlusconi fainted, as did Vicente Fox.
http://www.officer.com/article…..p;id=33706
Clusterfuck refuses to sleep in many countries..
At one conference- the US had to bring a fuckin aircraft carrier offshore ta give brave, brave, sir clusterfuck a safe place ta snoozle in the evening- whaddya think THAT cost?
It was Clusterfuck fear of sleepin over that led to him bein in Hawaii in the first place.
Georgie is worried about his library for one reason: to put his “presidentin papers” under seal. You know, the papers that could put him in the box in the Hague. He did the same shit with his guvna papers.
Historians are SO anxious ta get their hands on the papers that will explain how he did it…”How did the “DECIDER” manage to make all those remarkable decisions.
Anxious ta see the detailed reports he ordered up and his copious decision trees.
kemo @ 89
Not to mention his Poppy’s papers, and how they have attacked and suppressed our National Archives, that still burns me up.
jeffreyw @
29
yes: suesser tot
Disney bein hired to design the library–they’re workin right now to design the books. Look just like books- but ya can EAT em!
Christy Hardin Smith @
72
Saw him pop up yesterday on MSNBC, couldn’t place him. Wasn’t he the guy who attacked NED in the coffee shop asking “Are you a Clinton Democrat or a Sharpton Democrat?” We must find a way of protecting the brand from these enemies of Democrat-cy. Our party has a first name, D-E-M-O, our party has a last name, C-R-A-T-I-C, and pundits/profiteers can’t use it willy-nilly.
Howard Dean, please use my re-upped Democracy Bond to hire a trademark infringement lawyer and stop these guys from using OUR brand! *g*
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Who’s Next?
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Clusterfuck donatin several stool specimens from the presidential travelin toilet- there are a couple that he’s very proud of.
Christy Hardin Smith @
83
Put ‘em in my house, Christy — the Peanut will never look over here! Pass your boxes over the back fence, pronto.
Peterr @ 41
In honor of Molly, next door should be a Museum of Bad Government, with exhibits commemorating the work of what she calls the National Laboratory of Bad Government (aka Texas.) I don’t think she’d object if there was a wing covering the Laboratory’s advanced projects in national and international government.
TeddySanFran @
96
Oh, Christy, if your Peanut is anything like my Sprout, she’ll find ‘em, even at (((Teddy’s))).
kemo @
89
W’s gov papers went to Poppy’s library, throughout the six years W governed, as I recall, putting them outta reach of investigators and legislators during the Texas ascendancy. Never been done before. I think Ivins wrote about this….
Like I always sez: of all the lies that Republicans have told over the last few years, the biggest is that they believe in personal accountability. Admitting your mistakes, like eating properly, is a goal that more people talk about than actually achieve. In fact evading responsibility is a normal attribute for politicians, but the hyprocisy here is what is truly odious.
kemo @ 89
Yup. I’d still like to know what was in his daddy’s papers that they didn’t want to see the light of day, since reversing the Clinton sunshine regs was one of the first things he did in office. The other question is, can they transfer them if the place isn’t built yet, or would that give the next president an opportunity to revoke his “mine, mine, mine” executive order?
estiv @
100
Estiv, Hammer…nail…BINGO.
Presidents of Iraq an Iran havin their own Pow Wow- as Clusterfuck prepares to regale NATO with his pet ideas on world domination.
Gonna be a real swell week!
In the meantime- the Prime Minister of Iraq is threatened with life as a subway station janitor if he meets with Clusterfuck.
Witch Doctor makin more Clustefuck dolls.
Busy busy.
Stop giving them such good advice! If they keep shooting themselves in the collective feet for the next two years maybe we can actually turn this country around.
estiv @ 100
They believe in personal responsibility for poor people. If you’re not getting government assistance, you don’t have to answer to anyone. (A government salary doesn’t count, apparently.) And if you’re getting rich, you’re obviously doing everything right, so there’s no question you have “personal responsibility.”
Betcha the W papers have been slipping outta the WWing to Poppy’s liberry all along, so that when Waxman, Dingell, et.al. come calling, Abu Gonzales can get up to CHill and say, under oath, “We don’t have papers on that, they’re gone to Poppy’s liberry, they are under 50-year seal.”
heh.
DOW down 145 on word that Clusterfuck will be out of the country and unavailable to manage the economy.
I read this article this morning and it’s REALLY rediculous
what kind of “legasy” does this president think he has a prayer of leaving
he’s stolen every penny middle americat invested for their retirement and children, he’s stolen every resource elder americans use toward their life sustaining medicine, he’s taken away just about every middle class families dream of college for their kids, he’s destroyed the invirnemnt, he’s put us into deby with countries like china and saudi arabia. he’s shrunk the middle class, he’s grown the poverty level, and if you’re not a ceo, he’s shrunk salaris nationwide
he allowed us to be attacked on our own soil even though he was given precise inteligence telling us where, when, how, who would do it, the targets the weapons and the method
he squandered the greates regard this country had in her entire history and turned it into the most vile hatred known on planet earth
he deismated our military, he destroyed our inteligence gathering agencies
he attacked Iraq for what came from afghanistan, he captured sadam husein for what bind laden did.
he turned the presidency of the United States of America into a laughing stock, he’s put our children in depbt for generations by giving their treasure to people so wealthy they will never ever spend it
“legacy”
HA!
this fall’s Republican wipeout.
That’s just so pretty it needed to be said again…..
Where’s Cheney?
rwcole @ 95
Perhaps the library will include W’s “I gotta go take a shit” note to Condi.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/new…..461447.htm
Cheney’s at an undisclosed location- with a blow up doll- waitin fer inspiration.
salon.com:
Cheney’s workin on a new song:
“Life’s so Lonely When ya Shoot yer Friends”
Somewhere up there, Redshift sed:
“Yup. I’d still like to know what was in his daddy’s papers that they didn’t want to see the light of day, since reversing the Clinton sunshine regs was one of the first things he did in office. The other question is, can they transfer them if the place isn’t built yet, or would that give the next president an opportunity to revoke his “mine, mine, mine” executive order?”
They sure got scared with all of Clinton’s (and Soros’) “open society” talk. Methinks there be a lot of dirt on Iran Contra. But there’s always the possibility that they’ll show Reagan so far gone, much earlier in his Presidency than any of us realize, that we’ll find Bush41 was the Cheney of Reagan’s reign.
Facilitators of the Bush lunacy. Most Republicans. And Shamefully, a few in my own party. Damn ‘em.
Jenna is in SA planning W’s liberry and fuck y’all legacy in Paraguay.
rwcole @
107
No, it’s down on word that he intends to return to the country to manage the economy.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 116
it’s very disturbing how republicans continue to support this president.
it’s not as if these things happened and nobody warned them what would happen
every single negative result was predicited, we know what caused it, we can put the time and date of every decisions and show everybody the decision a normal person would have made, the advise against the decisions this president made, and how the results were exactly as predicted
yet they continue to think it’s like bad luck or something
my favorite saying for presidents; (I wrote it)
forsight is a presidents test
hindsight becomes the measure
Peterr @ 118
that should have raised the dow…this is counter intuitive
perris @ 120
oh, I didn’t see part two of your post
sorry
GW Bush Memorial Lie Brary.
rwcole @ 122
HA!!!
plaguerizing this one, just warning you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVeAoEHPJ9w
Something happening here on youtube
Check out the pictures.
The GW Bush Lie Brary is bein designed in two parts:
Lies
Errors
both sections planned to encompass acres.
Froomkin’s back, and starts with the new “civil war” terminology, headlining today’s column “It’s a Civil War, Stupid.” It seems Bush isn’t happy that the mainstream press is finally calling BS on his description of the violence in Iraq.
Bush seems to be drawing on the Monty Python School of language: It’s not a civil war; it’s just a flesh wound . . .
rwcole @ 125
it will have two wings: Crooks, and Liars
punaise @ 127
And an apse for the hallelujah chorus.
estiv @ 100
Yep: Remember the incident with the open mike when W was talking to Tony Blair? W looked disgusting while eating that buttered roll. The crumbs were falling out of his mouth.
Clusterfuck’s messin with buttered buns again?- Oh my goodness!
I haven’t gotten through the comments so I may be repeating someone else’s thought, but it is really very simple.
If Democrats do what Republicans want, that’s called “bipartisanship”.
If Republicans do what Democrats want, that’s “triangulating”.
Questions?
What do you call it when democrats do want voters want?
Retired U.S. Gen. Barry McCaffrey said sectarian violence in Iraq has escalated into a full civil war. Do you agree? * 16628 responses
Yes.
89%
No.
7.7%
Not sure.
3.5%
Vidal on Bush: “There are a few crazies who want to cheer the flag and this yappy little terrier as though he were a real president. Well, he’s not a real president. He’s a thing, a chimera who was put together by the Supreme Court, first time around, and reelected by Diebold … .”
ccmask at 132 — good government?
ccmask @ 132
Will of the people? Democracy? Help me out, here. I’m a little slow on these newfangled Ideas, and stuff.
What do we call Democratic wannabe presidents when they triangulate? And support Bush wars.
ccmask @ 132
Not Lieberman?
Library of Satan’s spawn planned for the middle of Dallas, Texas..Take that Bible Belt!
ccmask @
132
(In a very Republican whiny voice)
TREASON
and
SELLING OUT
Since when do the voters know anything?
/REpublican whiny voice
Christy Hardin Smith @ 135
jeffreyw @ 136
Let’s synthesize here: good democratic government.
punaise @ 56
grows stronger every day.
klyde @ 142
that’s the spirit!
Bush caught Jenna carrying a book, Tips for Young Mothers
What’s that for, he asks.
I’m taking up moth collecting says she.
Hobbies are good, he opined.
Blue Dogs day off.
Christy was right–feel like I’m playing trivia…
Froomkin noticed Cheney’s Nov 17 speech to the Federalist Society where he talked about warrantless wiretapping:
Cheney talking about a lack of accountability is . . . stunning. Where are those energy policy meeting documents, Mr. Vice President?
In that last sentence, maybe instead of “national” he meant to say “personal self preservation.” When the courts “insert themselves” into debates like this, it’s because the rights of the American people are in danger of being (or have been) trampled. Without the constititution, Mr. Vice President, there is no nation to preserve.
If you want a wiretap, get a warrant.
rwcole @ 52
RW,
’tain’t called Southern Millionaires University for nuffin’, y’know?
A colleague has his doctorate from SMU — he described it as a good place for graduate work but lacking on the undergrad side. But that description works for lots of prominent univer$itie$.
BC
I very much resent what the Democratic nominating process has become. In the end, through various means, the nominee for president in 2008 will be decided by forces way beyond our control. By say the DLC and their associates, and foreign interests, along with huge money.
Peterr #147,
Shorter Cheney: Sometimes you have to destroy the democracy in order to save it.
Also still laughing from your #126.
kiddo
Can’t follow ya on that one- up to 1968 party insiders had a big say on who the dem nominee was- the convention often had a majority of uncommitted delegates- since then- it’s all about the primaries- so party insiders have much LESS control over the process than they ever had before- this is true to some extent for BOTH parties.
Bargain Countertenor @ 148
I’ve heard and seen it mentioned that Laura was a campus ‘dealer’ in her college years. Never seen proof though. And of course we’ve all heard rumors about the president being a coke-head. Am I ’swiftboating’?
How about a serious discussion on the merits of impeaching both Bush and Cheney? I know there is a strong and emotional faction that would like to see both in prison, but a discussion on the pros and cons might go a long way towards setting a positive direction for this country with the new congress. I personally see very little downside to throwing both of them to the wolves. The process would bring out the facts and perhaps heal this conutry as well as start to rebuild our world wide credability. Impeachment is the legacy Bush deserves. Raise the 500 million and then use it to fund a think tank to spread peace not to develop plans on how to wage wars.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
no, you’re bogarting
Bogarting the Buttered Bun
Fresh thread-y goodness for everyone. Get it while it’s hot…
Twobits @ 153
Here’s an idea.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
According to Karen Kelly’s biography of the Bushes, Laura was known on the SMU campus as the “go-to” girl for weed.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
Well, in the immortal words of our corporate-media pundits from the Clinton years, if it’s “out there,” it would be irresponsible not to talk about it!
Twobits @ 153
We don’t have to impeach Cheney, as long as we get him first. The president can only be removed by impeachment, but the VP can just be convicted and sentenced like any other criminal. (We’d only have to impeach him if he refused to resign and tried to reign from prison.)
I thought that I’d share this article about Jenna and notJenna. U.S. Embassy Asks Bush Twins to Leave Country
November 27, 2006 1:18 PM http://blogs.abcnews.com/thebl….._asks.html
Redshift @ 160
That raises an interesting question. Members of Congress (both the House and Senate) cannot be impeded on their way to exercise their office. The Veep is President of the U.S. Senate, but not himself a Senator. Does he have the same privilege?
If he does, then we’d have to impeach the b*st*rd to invalidate the get-out-of-jail-free card. If not, he can try to rule from Club Fed, but it’s pretty tough to do that stuff when all your communication with the outside world is controlled by the prison superintendent. And he has to be physically present to cast tie-breakers … so the appropriate order is criminal conviction followed by impeachment. And Darth Cheney has to go before Dubya …
BC
rwcole @ 151
Money. Ads. Connections. Lobbyists. And a lot less folks vote now. Some argue we have an oligarchy/plutocracy now. And we many times don’t get what we thought we were voting for anyway. Would Tasini of NY have lost to Clinton had he had a $17,000,000 war chest, and the same connections and name rec. the winner did?
And as an aside, in 1968, and prior, we seemed to have had much more light shining between the two main political parties than we now have.
punaise @ 154
‘Don’t swiftboat that joint my friend, pass it over to me’
The corporate media’s use of the term “civil war” could have a big impact on the Iraq debate and policy options. How the Iraq Study Group responds to this change in language could have a lot to do with how relevant, realistic, and honest they are and how seriously they and their conclusions are to be taken.
Sectarian conflict takes reconciliation. A civil war takes peace talks. Sectarian conflict is a security issue. A civil war is a political one. If our presence in Iraq either was unable to prevent civil war or pushed the country into it, this merely raises again the question of why we are there at all. If a large technically advanced American force in Iraq can not change the course of events there, it has no reason to be there, period.
Twobits @ 153
Need ’super majority’ to impeach. I think.
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As Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki prepared for a summit meeting with President Bush this week in Jordan, Britain said it expects to withdraw thousands of its 7,000 military personnel from Iraq by the end of next year, and Poland and Italy announced the impending withdrawal of their remaining troops.
Iraqi President Jalal Talabani arrived for an official visit in Iran, where he is expected to seek its help in preventing Iraq’s sectarian violence from sliding into an all-out civil war. His departure was delayed by a three-day curfew, which the government lifted Monday.
Impeachin the bad news bears?
Well there are two issues..
One- should some dems attempt a doomed and token effort to raise the issue of impeachment knowing full well that it’s goin no where?
Two-should dems begin investigations into areas that could very well lead to the discovery of improprieties that even goopers would have to regard as impeachable.
So how big is the coalition of the willing.?
Coalition troops boogying from Iraq at the same time GW Clusterfuck goes hat in hand to NATO beggin for more money- more troops, more vehicles, more guns, etc to kill Afghans.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 164
Paraguay Red, Paraguay Red
He’ll steal your woman, then he’ll rob your head
Paraguay Red, Paraguay Red
On his white horse, Gonzalito
He come breezin’ through town
I’ll bet your woman’s up in bed with
Paraguay Red
rwcole @ 168
No. And Yes. In that order.
Impeachment is first and foremost a political act, and the available evidence (Nixon and Clinton) shows that the electorate views it so. Starting in office saying they’re going to impeach the Two Stooges is repeating the Gingrich mistake.
If, on the other hand, carefully conducted oversight hearing bring forward compelling evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors on the part of BushCo, then impeachment grows organically from the findings. The analogy then becomes Nixon rather than Clinton. And BushCo will be gone.
BC
Impeachment is politically improbable. Indictment is not. I salivate at the thought of various criminal complaints bearing say, 500,000 signatures each, delivered to USAs at 10 or so big states – tough to ignore -
Dear Christy,
You’re the Repudiator! You give good repudication.
Love it, love it, love it.