This editorial is written by individuals who know that the bombing campaign against Iran is about to begin. It is another piece in the puzzle.

You may ask, “Why bomb Iran now, when we cannot adequately maintain our military position in either Iraq or Afghanistan?”

Silly you. It is an effort to draw the world into a much larger military conflict of “civilizations” that will necessitate a draft and the taking of sides by the European powers. It is the Gtterdmmerung strategy.

What contempt these creatures have for the citizens of their democracy!
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The Post editorial ends, “Iran and Syria are ruthlessly waging war against Western interests in the Middle East. Offering to talk is only a small part of what it will take to stop them.”

Those sentences explicitly call for “ruthless” actions against Iran and Syria.

It won’t be on the ground as Colonel Lang has repeatedly pointed out.

Bush must be impeached. He is asking to be impeached. His every action is a gesture of contempt to the American people. He must be recognized for what he is and dealt with under the Constitution.

The Constitution, that great and noble document, contemplated an individual like this achieving power. They provided a mechanism for removing him.

Mark @ 83 – not only the leading supplier, but also apparently the leading “loser” of “I had those plane loads of AK-47s just a few hours ago, where’d I put them” weapons too.

Training AND arming them to kill our 19 and 20 yos and grandmothers called back. And then paying for it all with the tax monies of the citizens who trusted we had a reason to be there and never would have supported the war to start with if told the truth.

Centrist position there? Hey, why don’t you just keep paying for us to make the war industry a few more bucks and kill a few more soldiers and quite a few more Iraqis and —- uh, we’ll promise to lie to you more in the future so you’ll feel better about it all?

Off to get day to day stuff done – should I take the CIA test on or off my ritalin? Decisions decisions.

It was shocking to see how badly Bremer screwed up. His order # 1 purged anyone who was a Baathist — no matter how insignificant their status.

His order # 2 dissolved the Iraqi Army, to the shock and dismay of the White House. Up until that time, the Iraqi Army Officer Corps were in negotiations with the US Army, standing ready to secure the country and provide a smooth transition of power. Within days of the dissolution, the insurgency began, and our cause was irretrievably lost.

I agree we will not be going back to Saudi Arabia. Part of the neocon philosophy was that Saudi Arabia was too unstable to keep troops there on a permanent basis no matter how far out in the desert they were. Overthrowing Saddam and establishing permanent bases in Iraq was supposed to be a solution to that problem.

John Casper,
I don’t know how successful all those intra-regional negotiations are likely to be but you’re right that the simple fact that they are going on is an indication of our diminished influence there.

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Nothing to offer that matters while we are there. And now the guy in Iran has seen the fun in having us stay and has done just the kind of thing that makes Bush nuts and more stubborn by kindly offering to “help” the hapless US with Iraq, but “only” if we do what he says and pull out.

That’s would be Iran, pulling another string.

BTW – there as an article about one of the trilogy of Fitzgerald/Miller cases in NYT today but my favorite story today has been discovering that the arch-propagandists took stealth to such an extreme that their ads were too unmemorable and they had to hire a PR firm to pump up the recruiting efforts. You can go take an online quiz but what The Firm is really looking for is anyone with ADD.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..ecruitment

Was the TV series based on your real life scarecrow?

Yes, montag — DeadEye’s gotta have a place “over-the-horizon” for our troops; probably our old bases in SA. Only the SA king can permit that, and only with promises from the US wrt how we will allow SA to deal with its dissenters at home and (obl) abroad.

What ungodly acts against Earthlings are being entertained in SA this Thanksgiving weekend?

Undoing obl’s accomplishment of 9/11/01 (US troops out of SA) surely invites something over here, though.

Reading Clarke’s Against All Enemies. He notes the Saudi’s extreme reluctance to allow US presence in Saudi Arabia — foreign forces are not permitted near the sites of the great Islam icons — and the argument during Gulf I was that this was temporary to drive Saddam out of Kuwait and to protect the Saudi oil fields from further Saddam incursion. What would the argument be now?

OBL possibly regards US troop presence in his holy land to be justification for overthrowing the Saudi regime. So what can Cheney say to the king? “Let us redeploy from iraq, where we’ve been kicked out/defeated, and we will protect you from OBL.” If I were the Saudi King, I might ask Cheney to redeploy to New Jersey, and see if he can defend the refineries there.