Fitz!

angie!

Anybody know if Tim Tagaris stopped/is stopping by? Was it this Saturday?

Sue at 3 — Tim will be here at 11 am PT/2 pm ET for a chat. :)

Skosh, Fitz, Wilson!

Jack

Santorum is busy training his new dog- can’t blame him for goin a little light on the work thing.

Thanks - from here in sunny CT.

Wow, talk about coinkydinks, my wife just got out the 1991 Star Trek Enterprise ornament for the tree. Live long and prosper!

Tree? Yikes- already? Double Yikes.. Hell we ain’t finished the fuckin Turkey yet!

Turkey

Tree

SHOPPING

Funny Hats

Must happen in THAT sequence

OT: The Staining Horror has been practicing his BushCo talking points. Hope Grandma Pelosi is watching this guy like a hawk.

Hoyer: Iraqis must take responsibility

Excerpt: “In the days ahead, the Iraqis must make the tough decisions and accept responsibility for their future,” Hoyer, D-Md., said during the weekly Democratic radio address. “And the Iraqis must know: Our commitment, while great, is not unending.”

Oops — had the Handlesman link going to the wrong place. Is fixed now, gang. Sorry about that!

Tree…. I’ve yet to finish the baking. There’s 20 loaves of banana nut bread waiting to be made (along with gingerbread, regular chocolate chip, and 3 kinds of fudge) before the house can be properly cleaned. Then the tree can go up. The things I do to see the smiles on the faces of my nieces……..

Nice Billmon post. My personal belief that Ronald Reagan was the devil and that much of the vile bs we fight to this day had its roots in his truly venal policies made it awfully hard for me to root for Webb so I too was delighted (and quite surprised) with Webb’s WSJ piece.

The resonance of the populist message in this last election are undeniable, no matter how the blue dogs want to spin it as a mandare for them to take lobbying money from Pfizer. That it is has pervaded even to the level of a Jim Webb should be a lesson to us all — we’ve got the high ground, let’s use it.

rwcole @ 10

Turkey

Tree

SHOPPING

Funny Hats

Must happen in THAT sequence

SHOPPING?

This site was featured on MSNBC earlier….

http://www.bradsdeals.com/

Unbelievable deals on you name it!

Yep–Populism is in- Lou Dobbs and Pat Buchanan have been pounding that drum lately..

Populists, of course, tend to be Demogogues–so when they come back to life it’s always interesting.. They break right through traditional right/left barriers and get people nicely pissed off. I love em.

Coz- or do this–MAKE yer Christmas gifts- like I do..

Go inta the garage and find some wood- nail the pieces together-paint em with some paint ya got out there. Wrap em up an put em under that tree..

The response you get is UNFORGETABLE.

pol - I had to go deal with the plumber, so I missed responding to you in the last thread. If you’re still around, the Fairfax Democrats meeting is on Tuesday at Holmes Middle School in Annandale (6525 Montrose St.) There’s socializing from 7:30-8pm, which would be a good time to be there, and then the meeting starts at 8pm, and there are announcements at the end, which would also work. You can contact me at razorsharpwit AT gmail DOT com so we can link up. It’d be nice to make more connections between neighboring counties.

John Edwards tried “Populist Light” in the last election- but that’s like makin Hurricanes with no booze in em- this year he may try the real thing- but he’s gotta look like he didn’t go to school so long.

rwcole @ 17

Coz- or do this–MAKE yer Christmas gifts- like I do..

Go inta the garage and find some wood- nail the pieces together-paint em with some paint ya got out there. Wrap em up an put em under that tree..

The response you get is UNFORGETABLE.

Considering my carpentry skills, that’s pretty much a given.

Puma- Poor carpentry skills are just what ya need for this—pretend it’s “ART”- that’s what I do.

And be careful that ya don’t accidently actually MAKE anything…

Tree? Now? Won’t it be all dry and brown and dead by Christmas morning?

rwcole @
17

Coz- or do this–MAKE yer Christmas gifts- like I do..

Go inta the garage and find some wood- nail the pieces together-paint em with some paint ya got out there. Wrap em up an put em under that tree..

The response you get is UNFORGETABLE.

You are sooo funny this morning. Thanks for the belly laughs!

Redshift @ 18

pol - I had to go deal with the plumber, so I missed responding to you in the last thread. If you’re still around, the Fairfax Democrats meeting is on Tuesday at Holmes Middle School in Annandale (6525 Montrose St.) There’s socializing from 7:30-8pm, which would be a good time to be there, and then the meeting starts at 8pm, and there are announcements at the end, which would also work. You can contact me at razorsharpwit AT gmail DOT com so we can link up. It’d be nice to make more connections between neighboring counties.

Thanks, Redshift. I am going to try to be there. Yes, it would be great to make connections with Fairfax and other counties. Prince William County is turning a nice shade of blue down here….

dry an brown?

Not if ya got the artificial tree that yer wife hates cause it’s too skinny- like I do!

Jane at 14 — I thought it was a very well done piece by Billmon. And the shift in thought for Webb…well, very interesting how and why it happened. It’s worth asking ourselves what got through to him — and how to make that work in terms of getting through to others as well.

Just when you are getting sick of turkey, Digby finds a huge one. Blech.

Rush Limbaugh howler of the season, from the above Digby piece:

“But this was no pleasure cruise, friends. The journey to the New World was a long and arduous one. And when the Pilgrims landed in New England in November, they found, according to Bradford’s detailed journal, a cold, barren, desolate wilderness…”

And yet…

“When spring finally came, Indians taught the settlers how to plant corn, fish for cod and skin beavers for coats.”

Friends and neighbors, it had been a long time since the eastern U.S. had been a “desolate wilderness.” That would be because the Indians had been clearing land to grow crops, albeit in relatively small plots, for many centuries by the time Bradford and his exiled religious fanatic buddies landed. But of course, Rush needs to cover his white American exceptionalist ass against the obvious charge of land theft, so he throws in a transparent lie to try to make the Indians look like incompetent savages even though he admits the Puritans would have croaked off en masse without them.

Rush Limbaugh: for all you do, this bird’s for you!

My wife and kids wanted to put it up WEDNESDAY! I told them not until 1 holiday was completed. And they responded with callimg me a scrooge! Yes, it’s a fake tree. Demonized by my own family, I feel like Bill O’Loofah.

Nov. 25 (Bloomberg) – Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the world’s largest retailer, said November sales at U.S. stores open at least a year fell 0.1 percent, the worst performance in more than a decade in the first month of the holiday season.

Yo, Wally! I got your Holiday Season right here!

Changin’ the way Christmas is done in this country.

jane hamsher @ 14

Nice Billmon post. My personal belief that Ronald Reagan was the devil and that much of the vile bs we fight to this day had its roots in his truly venal policies made it awfully hard for me to root for Webb so I too was delighted (and quite surprised) with Webb’s WSJ piece.

The resonance of the populist message in this last election are undeniable, no matter how the blue dogs want to spin it as a mandare for them to take lobbying money from Pfizer. That it is has pervaded even to the level of a Jim Webb should be a lesson to us all — we’ve got the high ground, let’s use it.

I entirely agree about Reagan. That was pretty much my feeling, but since I was local, I was able to learn earlier that Webb had done stuff like walk picket lines in the past, and his Reagan-compatible views were mostly limited to military matters.

Wal Mart sales are a pretty good guage of how things are goin for the lower middle class. Not so great apparently.

If you like the illustration for this post you can go do www.despair.com and build your own “demotivator.” I get 3 or 4 of their calendars every year. Yes, I know, my mind is twisted but they do make me howl.

Completely OT –
Curious in Central Texas, if you’re still out there, and you didn’t see my comment down below (#131) … You may order the cookbook at our website, http://www.pwcdems.com/cookbook. Each book is $12.50 plus $2.00 shipping.

Redshift @ 30

jane hamsher @ 14

Nice Billmon post. My personal belief that Ronald Reagan was the devil and that much of the vile bs we fight to this day had its roots in his truly venal policies made it awfully hard for me to root for Webb so I too was delighted (and quite surprised) with Webb’s WSJ piece.

The resonance of the populist message in this last election are undeniable, no matter how the blue dogs want to spin it as a mandare for them to take lobbying money from Pfizer. That it is has pervaded even to the level of a Jim Webb should be a lesson to us all — we’ve got the high ground, let’s use it.

I entirely agree about Reagan. That was pretty much my feeling, but since I was local, I was able to learn earlier that Webb had done stuff like walk picket lines in the past, and his Reagan-compatible views were mostly limited to military matters.

I can’t disagree about Reagan as such, but I’m just as skeptical that he was really calling the shots during his tenure as I am that Bush the Lesser calls the shots today. (In security matters particularly, I’ll give you dollars to donuts that the buck stopped with Bush the Not So Much Greater–at least until Iran-Contra went south, at which point all accountability was up for grabs.)

Ah, ladies and gentlemen, these Pilgrims traveled without the benenfits of pills and dope and they weren’t going to have the luxury of landing in a tropical nation where the youngsters were available for sex acts.

Talk about sacrifice.

-Blimp Oxyboy

Yell know when the populists have really taken hold when Wal Mart starts sellin paper targets of rich guys in the gun section.

Redshift @ 30

jane hamsher @ 14

Nice Billmon post. My personal belief that Ronald Reagan was the devil and that much of the vile bs we fight to this day had its roots in his truly venal policies made it awfully hard for me to root for Webb so I too was delighted (and quite surprised) with Webb’s WSJ piece.

The resonance of the populist message in this last election are undeniable, no matter how the blue dogs want to spin it as a mandare for them to take lobbying money from Pfizer. That it is has pervaded even to the level of a Jim Webb should be a lesson to us all — we’ve got the high ground, let’s use it.

I entirely agree about Reagan. That was pretty much my feeling, but since I was local, I was able to learn earlier that Webb had done stuff like walk picket lines in the past, and his Reagan-compatible views were mostly limited to military matters.

For the longest, I was afraid we’d vote for a Democratic Webb and then he’d change colors after the election. As time has gone on, though, I like more and more of what I see. Besides, ANYTHING is a step above George Allen.

GSD– Don’t know bout dope- they may have had a few hemp plants in the hold- but they DID come complete with hundreds of barrels of beer.

What the hell is up with CNN Money?! The have a story called “CEO wish list-$20 to $100K” Does anyone really give a shit? Let e’m buy their own damn gifts.

http://money.cnn.com/popups/20.....index.html

rwcole @ 36

Yell know when the populists have really taken hold when Wal Mart starts sellin paper targets of rich guys in the gun section.

[laughing]

Like the Walton family? :)

rwcole — linky for walmart?

Twisted Martini @ 39

What the hell is up with CNN Money?! The have a story called “CEO wish list-$20 to $100K” Does anyone really give a shit? Let e’m buy their own damn gifts.

http://money.cnn.com/popups/20.....index.html

Forward that story to Uncle Lou Dobbs, see if he blows and 0-ring.

-GSD

Jane,

Check out Subway Serenade’s post at # 29.

-GSD

Populist target acquisition training kit– includes cut out silhouettes of:

Lexus (yes)

Mercedes (yes)

BMW (Hell yes)

Chevy (NO- that’s someone’s son or daughter)

BTW Tim Tagaris will be by at 11:00 PST to chat. We luv Tim. Do stop by.

Jane- ya mean about the sales? I was commenting on someone else’s post that sales were down slightly year over year for “same stores”.

(Subway- post 29)

rw at 44 — I get the snark, and I understand you are kidding…but I’d be careful with that, given the level of crazy that can sometimes roam the toobz and all…

Redd–OK

Redd- Point is- of course- that “populism” is a hell of a lot “edgier” than people think- and more difficult to control once it gets rollin- goopers FEAR it- call it “class warfare” and they’re right.

(That’s not as much fun as the training kit though).

What kinds of savages chop peoples heads off? What nation could possibly work with and negotiate with such savage people?

Take it away Rumsfeld:

“I think that the important thing is to understand that there is a small minority of that religion that are determined to hijack that religion; that are teaching people that it is in their interest to go out and cut off people’s heads and chop off people’s hands..”

Meanwhile, Deadeye Dick Cheney does some globe trotting:

“Cheney arrived Saturday in Saudi Arabia for talks with King Abdullah, apparently seeking the Sunni royal family’s influence and tribal connections to calm Iraq. The vice president was not planning additional stops in the region.”

Finally, I put two and two together and answer the Rumsfled question.

-GSD

Hey Christy, thanks for the recipe repair in previous thread. Had to drop off to clean house.

Wow, that’s a lot of reading material linked above, probably take me all after noon!

G’morning all. Did everyone survive Black Friday and the cookie thread??

Thanks, Christy, for this terrific roundup. Matt Stoller inspired me to e- this to my Congresswoman last night:

Dear Congresswoman Pelosi:

Please assume the Chair of the House Intelligence Committee yourself in the 110th Congress. These issues of leadership of that critical Committee would be best served by having the Speaker at its helm.

I am delighted that you will be Speaker and know full well that you’ll have things ready to go elsewhere so that Intelligence can occupy your full attention. Our nation needs your best efforts in a new way of seeing us through these difficult times.

My best thoughts are with you as you proceed to make history. I am proud you are my Congresswoman. The thanks of a grateful nation await. Thank you for your service to California and to the United States of America.
======================

If any other constituents like this idea, here’s Nancy Pelosi’s contact email webpage.

The American Conservative essay by Austin Bramwell is as amazing as Digby says. An analysis of the failure of the conservative movement from one of its brightest new lights, hand picked by William F Buckley (with a few others) to guide his National Review into the post-Buckley era - only to be dismissed by WFB himself after a scant two years service as Director and Trustee.

http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_11_20/cover.html

In “Goodbye To All That”, Bramwell posits that there is no “there” there, in the conservative movement. In an Orwellian fashion, conservatism is “what we say it is”. For a 28 year old man to have reached the summit, entered the holy of holies, and emerged to declare the gods to be false, (much to his own detriment), is a stunning achievement in courage and integrity.

Read the whole thing. As Digby says, you won’t regret it.

Any word on how Michael Richards and Trent Lott weathered “Black Friday”?

-GSD

My son-in-law sees Reagan as a hero, loves the guy. We, however, see him as the demon. Mr. D blames Reagan for almost everything; fifteen minutes into any political argument, Reagan’s name comes up. Neither of us was happy about Webb’s candidacy, but over time, we got the picture, and are happy he’s our senator. He was great on MTP last week with Tester. I smiled through the whole interview. Webb is more than a step above Allen; he’s on an entirely different plateau. Finally, I can write to my senator and feel I’ll be heard! Webb was a Democrat before becoming Republican (Reagan years), so he has a longer history as D. He came home after that interlude.

rw at 49 — oh yeah, I hear ya. I live in the middle of populism central in WV — there is always a tension between the have a littles and the have a lot lesses. And it is a fine line between the Huey Longs of the world and the folks who are simply trying to make things more even and decent for everyone, especially the folks on the lower end of the economy. Things have gotten too far out of kilter, and it evens out one way or the other — the question is, how is it going ot even out this time?

rwcole@31..you are right..falling Wal-Mart sales,at this time of year, means that many Americans are not going to have a very Merry Christmas this year. The real genius of the Repubs was/is to get these people to vote against the economic self-interest.

jarotra @ 53

The American Conservative essay by Austin Bramwell is as amazing as Digby says. An analysis of the failure of the conservative movement from one of its brightest new lights, hand picked by William F Buckley (with a few others) to guide his National Review into the post-Buckley era - only to be dismissed by WFB himself after a scant two years service as Director and Trustee.

http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_11_20/cover.html

In “Goodbye To All That”, Bramwell posits that there is no “there” there, in the conservative movement. In an Orwellian fashion, conservatism is “what we say it is”. For a 28 year old man to have reached the summit, entered the holy of holies, and emerged to declare the gods to be false, (much to his own detriment), is a stunning achievement in courage and integrity.

Read the whole thing. As Digby says, you won’t regret it.

Yeah, quite surprising. He’s not just saying that there are cracks in the conservative foundation–he’s saying there is no foundation….

Steve–Yep- and while Wal Mart’s urban/rural sales mix is changing- they still have a more ruraly bias than other national retailers- so the economic news is from the gooper heartland.

Post to your February calendar…

Re: The Wilson’s civil suit…
Hope it doesn’t meet the same fate of Cheney’s
Energy Cabal…

“A judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia will hear the defendants’ motion to dismiss in early February, said Cotchett, who acknowledged that defeating the motion will a challenge. But the former Army Special Forces colonel will make it as difficult as possible for his opponents to avert a trial.

God help me, the Christmas music is on…

I dislike those few Democrats to no end, who supported, and support, the Bush blood letting in Iraq.

Shopping suggestions.

For that Mitt Romney supporter on your Christmas list.

Sleep tight sweeties.

-GSD

Is Condi with the VP in Saudi Arabia on Cheney’s bulls’t mission?

Mutt Romney for presnut!!!

Twisted at 61 — save yourself. Order the George Winston December CD. Give it to your wife as an early gift. It’s instrumental, lovely, just Christmas-y enough to make her happy, but soothing enough to not be too much for you. Also, these are good choices for equally soothing and not obnoxious household and/or office music: Celtic Christmas, The Carols of Christmas, and Guitars (and other stringed things) Christmas music. All guaranteed to be not so irritating, actually relaxing, and still keep Christmas-music craving family members happy.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 64

Is Condi with the VP in Saudi Arabia on Cheney’s bulls’t mission?

I don’t think so, but she will supposedly accompany the chimp on his very own bulls’t mission to Jordan later this week.

jane hamsher @
14

Nice Billmon post. My personal belief that Ronald Reagan was the devil and that much of the vile bs we fight to this day had its roots in his truly venal policies made it awfully hard for me to root for Webb so I too was delighted (and quite surprised) with Webb’s WSJ piece.

The resonance of the populist message in this last election are undeniable, no matter how the blue dogs want to spin it as a mandare for them to take lobbying money from Pfizer. That it is has pervaded even to the level of a Jim Webb should be a lesson to us all — we’ve got the high ground, let’s use it.

Billmon reminded me who Jim Webb was — I remember him decrying Maya Lin’s design as a “gash of shame” or somesuch. His group of Vietnam Vets got the statues of grunts added to the Memorial. My connection to this? Maya Lin’s selection was announced at my brother’s college graduation in New Haven — her senior architecture project being the wall itself.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 65

Mutt Romney for presnut!!!

Uh-huh. Like anybody here would vote for Romney for doorstop.

I’m at the auto dealership getting Kobe’s car fixed and Ellen Tauscher is running her mouth in the NYT again.

Can we just primary her already and be done with it?

Christy Hardin Smith @ 66

Twisted at 61 — save yourself. Order the George Winston December CD. Give it to your wife as an early gift. It’s instrumental, lovely, just Christmas-y enough to make her happy, but soothing enough to not be too much for you. Also, these are good choices for equally soothing and not obnoxious household and/or office music: Celtic Christmas, The Carols of Christmas, and Guitars (and other stringed things) Christmas music. All guaranteed to be not so irritating, actually relaxing, and still keep Christmas-music craving family members happy.

It’s Frank Sinatra, so it’s not so bad. My whole issue is that we have a month until Christmas. I will look into those though, thanks for the suggestion.

Montag- just read the piece on conservatism– WOW- deadly.

Too bad he did’t get more deeply into the economic mythology.

OT: News from the wonderful world of police brutality and excessive use of force. Why should L.A. have all the fun?

Police kill groom leaving bachelor party, reports say

Excerpt: NEW YORK (AP) — Police shot three young men who had just left a bachelor party at a strip club early Saturday, killing one man on the day of his wedding, according to police and witnesses. One of the survivors was in critical condition.

The shooting happened just after 4 a.m. near Club Kalua in Queens, said Officer Kathleen Price. She said there were no reports that any officers were wounded.

It was not immediately clear what sparked the shooting. As many as eight officers may have been involved, said Sgt. Mike Wysokowski, another department spokesman.

Jane at 70 — this is the “kabuki” baloney from Tauscher, I take it. SIGH Someone just stick a gag on her mouth and stuff her in a broom closet until the next election. Who told her she spoke for anyone in the Democratic party other than herself? Oh wait, she and Hoyer are close…

That’s Tosser

Condi and Georgi. Now there’s one for Olbermann’s oddballs. How strange it is. Spare me the visuals.

beth meacham @ 22

Tree? Now? Won’t it be all dry and brown and dead by Christmas morning?

Not ours. It’s a manzanita I cut out of our front yard (that had died). Put it up yesterday (we have a 6 y.o. who could not wait) and have been using the same funky tree for 4 years.

George Tenet’s new book has a publishing
date of November 06 with release in February
07…

“At the Center of the Storm”, if credible,
might have soom doozies…

A perfect storm?

Jack

Christy Hardin Smith @ 26

Jane at 14 — I thought it was a very well done piece by Billmon. And the shift in thought for Webb…well, very interesting how and why it happened. It’s worth asking ourselves what got through to him — and how to make that work in terms of getting through to others as well.

Greatly appreciate the linky to Billmon’s thought provoking Webb piece. Allow me to suggest the new VA senator would make a very interesting guest on a future FDL weekend conversation.

As Christy suggests “it’s worth asking ourselves what got through to him….” and asking the senator elect the same question and more here on the lake.

I share Jane’s POV on Reagan’s reign including initial skepticism toward Webb. Ended up donating to his campaign and cheering him on in his dramatic victory over sleazy incumbent Geo. Allen.

I thank Digby for including Bramwell’s epigone, sure to come in handy soon!

A dog lover’s trip around the blogs would not be complete without viewing this moving depiction of Darth Cheney’s Thanksgiving feast.

Courtesy of Worth1000.

AP/news.yahoo.com

Maureen Dowd: Bush Should Go On Fox News To Confess: “If I Did It–Here’s How The Civil War In Iraq Happened”…

Maureen’s at it again- ya gotta love her when she’s goring the right oxen!

Grunts and others who have died in Iraq are nothing but “incidentals” for Bush and Cheney. Impeachment might not be possible, but these two ultimate chicken-hawks should not escape punishment. Bring my people home. Democrats.

rwcole @ 82

AP/news.yahoo.com

Maureen Dowd: Bush Should Go On Fox News To Confess: “If I Did It–Here’s How The Civil War In Iraq Happened”…

Similar gag in one of the cartoons at the Bob Geiger link in the thread opener. One of those synchronicities of events we all live for, it seems.

Maureen’s at it again- ya gotta love her when she’s goring the right oxen!

So Cheney’s in Saudi Arabia? What in the hell does he shoot there?

“Vice President Cheney Goes on Dove Hunt- kills a thousand Doves of peace an eats every one”

TeddySanFran, Maya Lin actually was announced as the winner way before college graduation. But you’re right, in that they did make a mention of it at graduation…just before my grandmother was hit in the eye with a flying mortar board. Who’s your brother?

NYT on Miller and Pelosi, with Tauscher commentary.

rwcole @ 85

So Cheney’s in Saudi Arabia? What in the hell does he shoot there?

I’m sure there are rich old men in Saudi Arabia…

rwcole@59..I’ve been driving around the back roads of the US for the past year or so. I stop in a lot of rural Wal-Marts to get a feel for the gooper base. It’s pretty much the same in any region of the country. Poorly educated whites, a lot of over weight single mothers, dis-affected younger white males, all struggling to keep going. You see the kids and you know most of them won’t end up any better; it breaks your heart. On the other hand, these are the racist, fundie,hate filled people who voted for Bush and think HIV is god’s punishment for homo-sex-uals. It is a very conflicting situation for me.

Good blog roundup, Christy.

Bilmons’s take on Jim Webb is similar to mine. When Webb first emerged in the Pentagon civilian leadeship during the Reagan years, I subscribed to a magazine called “Proceedings of the U.S. Naval Institute.” At that time, Webb wrote some startling ideas for that maazine and other DOD-related publications. I’ve tried googling some -ANY - of those articles, and no luck.

I remember him being among the first government officials to echo Hedrick Smith’s contention, made in Smith’s book, “The Russians,” that the downfall of the USSR was quite inevitable. None of Webb’s or Smith’s ideas at that time pointed any credit whatsoever to the then-current Reagan policies as being decisive on the growing dysfunctions of the USSR.

Webb may be the most intelligent new Senator we have. That head and head of hair may be thick, but there’s a very active and compassionate brain at work in there.

I wanna see Cheney face to face with an angry Lion- armed with a knife he made himself- and his gooper ideology.

SaltinWound @ 86

TeddySanFran, Maya Lin actually was announced as the winner way before college graduation. But you’re right, in that they did make a mention of it at graduation…just before my grandmother was hit in the eye with a flying mortar board. Who’s your brother?

A Saybrook college-mate of Maya’s who prizes his internet anonymity.

Chuck Hegel tells the truth about Iraq in the NYT.

Thank god someone is finally talking sense.

I may be going out on a limb here, (not that I give a f’k) but I think Dowd is generally okay. She’s made mistakes, but hell, I made a mistake once.

theropod’s stirring early….

Oklahoma kiddo @ 83

Grunts and others who have died in Iraq are nothing but “incidentals” for Bush and Cheney. Impeachment might not be possible, but these two ultimate chicken-hawks should not escape punishment. Bring my people home. Democrats.

Why is impeachment not possible????? I keep hearing this. What has to happen for it to be possible? The Dems should quit being “practical”
and do something to clear out the Bush brush and Cheney crap. Just think about all of the people thrown into prison in this country who are either innocent or guilty of smokin’ doobs. And these fuckers are mass murderers.

Even Drudge carries some relevant news once a year:

“Secret U.S. government report: Insurgency in Iraq now self-sustaining financially, raising tens of millions of dollars a year from oil smuggling, kidnapping, counterfeiting, fake charities and other crimes… NYTIMES reporting Sunday… Developing.”

-GSD

They are quite an adept “handfull of deadenders” to be sure.

TeddySanFran, fair enough. I’m a Saybrook college mate who clearly doesn’t prize his anonymity at all!

Steve–Hell they’re probably mostly the SAME people- doin what the preacher told em—an stayin away from the party that blacks join.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 94

I may be going out on a limb here, (not that I give a f’k) but I think Dowd is generally okay. She’s made mistakes, but hell, I made a mistake once.

a. She emails with Bush41.
b. She awkwardly flirts with unattainable men who buy her a drink.

My mistake was buying her a drink.

Mary McCurnin @ 96

Oklahoma kiddo @ 83

Grunts and others who have died in Iraq are nothing but “incidentals” for Bush and Cheney. Impeachment might not be possible, but these two ultimate chicken-hawks should not escape punishment. Bring my people home. Democrats.

Why is impeachment not possible????? I keep hearing this. What has to happen for it to be possible? The Dems should quit being “practical”
and do something to clear out the Bush brush and Cheney crap. Just think about all of the people thrown into prison in this country who are either innocent or guilty of smokin’ doobs. And these fuckers are mass murderers.

Lack of “super-majority”. I think.

The September 24 KPFA event from Berkeley, CA, will air on C-Span’s Book TV this weekend.

Featured speakers:

David Ray Griffin
Kevin Ryan
Peter Dale Scott
Peter Phillips
Ray McGovern

EST PST
Friday Nov 24th: 4:00pm 1:00pm
Saturday Nov 25th: 3:30am 12:30am
10:00pm 7:00pm

http://www.booktv.org/schedule/

My mistake was buying her a drink.

We know your intentions were those of a gentleman, Teddy.

Impeachment is not politically correct?
My guess is that proceedings will begin
during the Ides of March…

“Yon Waxman has a lean and hungry look”

Jack

TRex @ 93

Chuck Hegel tells the truth about Iraq in the NYT.

Thank god someone is finally talking sense.

Sort of. I wish he’d just ditch the “honorable intentions” crap and the link to any global struggle against anything other than rational policy making. But hey, he comes to the right answer, no matter how much bullshit he heaps up over it.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 76

Condi and Georgi. Now there’s one for Olbermann’s oddballs. How strange it is. Spare me the visuals.

well I certainly hope that those two are properly chaperoned.

Behind the subscription wall at NYT, this essay by Thomas Edsell–maddening:

“Can the Democratic Party become fully competitive? Is American liberalism dead, the 2006 election a last twitch of life before rigor mortis sets in? The answer to both questions is yes. (More on this next week.)

For the Democratic Party to revive, major tenets of American liberalism, economic and sociocultural, will have to be discarded. The party can join Studebaker and the Glass Bottle Blowers union, it can trudge along as No. 2, or it can undergo a painful transformation — without guarantee of success.”

[snip]

“The potential for an incendiary controversy to engulf the Democratic left has sharply escalated with Web access to each committee and floor vote under new Congressional transparency rules, and the development of aggressively partisan outlets in the blogosphere. An army of conservative media is determined to recreate the political climate so advantageous to the G.O.P. in 1994. At the same time, very liberal senior House Democrats now have vastly enhanced power to add inflammatory provisions to bills moving through their committees (think Rangel and the draft).

Nancy Pelosi and her closest advisers in the House are more likely to support such radioactive amendments than to serve as guard dogs protecting a slender Democratic majority. The first test of Pelosi’s ability to distinguish between broad-based and special interests will be when she decides whether to appoint Alcee Hastings, the once-impeached federal judge, to head the House Intelligence Committee.”

And there’s more, circling back to the “stillborn” metaphor.

SaltinWound @ 98

TeddySanFran, fair enough. I’m a Saybrook college mate who clearly doesn’t prize his anonymity at all!

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