
Ahem. Is this thing on? Happy Thanksgiving! — Pach
WaPo fronts this new sherriff in town bit:
Democrats' Victory Is Felt On K Street
By Jeffrey H. Birnbaum
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 23, 2006; A01
The Democrats' takeover of Congress this month has turned official Washington upside down.
Labor and environmental representatives, once also-rans in congressional influence, are meeting frequently with incoming Democratic leaders. Corporations that once boasted about their Republican ties are busily hiring Democratic lobbyists. And industries worried about reprisals from the new Democrats-in-charge, especially the pharmaceutical industry, are sending out woe-is-me memos and hoping their GOP connections will protect them in the crunch.
[snip]
Democratic lobbyists prospected for new clients on the very night last week that House Democrats elected their leaders on an anti-lobbyist platform. Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (Md.) and Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (S.C.) were feted on the 10th and ninth floors, respectively, at 101 Constitution Ave. NW, a premier lobbying venue at the foot of Capitol Hill. Some of the city's top firms are in that building, including the lobbying arm of Goldman Sachs, the American Council of Life Insurers, Clark Consulting Federal Policy Group and Van Scoyoc Associates.
Hoyer's political action committee financed his reception in a room routinely used for lobbying and other events, but Clyburn's was paid for by Nelson Mullins Riley & Scarborough LLP, a South Carolina-based law firm that lobbies extensively in Washington on health care and other issues and has offices in that building.
Dozens of lobbyists attended both functions and shuttled from one party to the other. "The elevators were jammed," said Gwen Mellor, a Democrat at the lobbying firm PodestaMattoon, who collected business cards that evening.
We cannot have a representative democracy while the $2+ billion dollar lobbying industry continues to perform legal bribery against the interests of voters. Corporations don't vote, but they do make investments, when they see results. Campaign contributions are the easiest way to corrupt our democracy, something any Democrat should oppose. Fortunately, Sten Hoyer, the K-Street favorite, has "pledged" to support an end to this subversion of democracy:
There are conflicting messages coming from the election. On one hand, more than 100 Democratic members of the next Congress have already gone on record in support of "clean elections" – public financing – for congressional races, including the incoming House majority leader, Steny H. Hoyer from Maryland's 5th Congressional District. Modeled on successful laws in seven states and two cities, clean elections force candidates to spend more time listening to voters than to campaign donors. Participating candidates agree to a spending limit and to raise little or no private money. They raise a large number of small donations to qualify for a set amount of public funding. Then the fundraising is over. A system like this revolutionizes who can run for public office and what they do after they get there.
On the other hand, congressional Democrats' fundraising has hit all-time highs. According to the Federal Elections Commission, 38 of the top 50 fundraising challengers were Democrats, 11 of whom raised more than $2 million. Democratic challengers had nearly a 3 to 1 fundraising advantage over Republican challengers, though that was largely due to the Republicans' defensive electoral posture. Will their fundraising prowess color their perception on the nature of the problems inherent in the private financing of our elections?
Speaker-to-be Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, has pledged to "sever the ties between lobbyists and legislation" in the first 100 hours of running the House of Representatives in January. The proposed changes are good first steps, as they try to restore ethics and to rein in some of the ways insider lobbyists curry favor. But the proposals don't touch one dollar contributed by lobbyists and special interests to campaigns.
The Democrats ought to think big and ask the Republicans to join them in proposing to publicly finance all congressional elections. It can be paid for with less than what is unaccounted for in Halliburton's Iraq contract. Americans know that, right now, we have the best government money can buy. The problem is with who is doing the buying.
Democrats need to support real campaign reform. Make sure Sten Hoyer doesn't forget his pledge. What should we do with K Street?
Not take it over.
We should blow it (the lobbying industry) up, in order to restore government of the people, by the people and for the people.



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Happy Thanksgiving!
Fitz!
Zero!
I knew it, I knew it, my Happy Thanksgiving wish for all lies at the bottom of the Late Night Toob. Oh well.,..
As for Steny, he needs to have much scrutinizing this coming year with lots and lots of emails going his way. With lots of front page missles sent his direction.
I do not know if this is prudent, but it would make me feel a whole lot better if he KNOWS he is being watched and all that under-the-table money will become public.
Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving.
pach -
thanks for this post… those of us in MA had the frustrating experience of our clean election law being undermined and then repealed by a state leg that was 80% democratic.
time for a change!
p.s. happy thanksgiving…
Think about that: a more than $2 billion dollar industry designed to influence a few hundred people.
That’s democracy?
Good for Hoyer and Pelosi supporting campaign finance reform. As long as lobbying money is allowed to dominate the system we’re going to be fighting tooth and nail for any kind of legislation that puts the interest of the public first.
Good post Pach, and Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
I wish someone would put up signs all over DC reminding Congress that there are fewer of them than there are of the ‘media elite’ they so enjoy talking about, and that about 299.8 million people don’t have the privileges and fringe benefits that congress enjoys (courtesy of the American taxpayers, citizenship most definitely not required for that). Maybe Jon Tester will tell them some plain truths, whether or not they want to listen.
Happy Thanks-limit-the-lobbyists’-Giving, Pach.
Oh yeah: Happy Thanksgiving, and no food poisoning, please!
Pachacutec @
5
No it isn’t.
The money needs to get out of everything political, from K Street to elections.
Happy Thanksgiving to everybody here at FDL.
End corporate personhood.
Extending the Bill of Rights to corporations is a complete sham. This is the first step to ending their overreaching influence on congress.
Haven’t read the Post yet, but THANK [insert your favorite noun here] for FDL.
Special thanks to Jane, Christy, Pach, TRex, and all the other great posters. Also thanks to all the wonderful commenters who have enriched my life. It is difficult for me to believe how fundamentally ignorant I was of what was behind TM reporting, before I found FDL via my interest in Plame. I thought Joe Lieberman was a liberal Democrat who believed in bipartisanship.
In addition, FDL was my gateway to thenexthurrah, Jesus’ General, TBogg, MyDD, Kos, and so many other great resources.
Book Salon with John Dean, was also a personal favorite and high point.
Completely agree. It is cornerstone legislation, that while not equal to habeas corpus, carries enormous punch throughout the legislative process.
Simp @
11
When you give person status, you give rights.
Corporations have no rights. They are designed to produce products or services for a profit. Once you accept the spoils of profit you are in business for the good of the public. If your are in business for the good of the public, you give up your rights.
END CORPORATE PERSONHOOD. Corporations will then have no right to redress their greivances with thier govt!
there it is pach, the base of most of America’s problems
corporate personhood
this is SUPPOSED to be a government for people and by people
NOT for corporations by corporations
we need to end personhood for corporations, we need to end private funding for politicians campaigns, this will be the only method that prevents corporations and wealthy from buying our law
oh
FITZ
epu’d by the way and I want to give my thanx
top two
1) I am thankful to my friens
2) I am thankful I am not hunting turkey with teh vice president
I think one of the easiest laws to get the public on board with will be to eliminate corporate sponsorship of law
1) make a politician opt out of private campaign contributions
they then get public funding
2) make anyone that uses private funds for campaign donate equal time to every single candidate who is not using private funds
man, I just thought of part 2 and I LOVE it
All members of both “Houses of Congress” had best play this one straight up and do the “WILL OF THE PEOPLE”!
To do otherwise is to court a “back lash” such has not been seen in more years than any one now living can remember!
There’s no data.
There’s no requirement for daylight.
There’s no accountability.
In Canada, there is a lobbyist registry that’s searchable online. Is it time for one in the US?
The Clerk of the House of Representatives seems to be collecting pdf’s from lobbyists, but there’s not much data available to the public, AFAIK.
Oh, yes. If you want to look at the information, you can follow these directions:
Not too convenient, is it? Kinda makes you wonder if they want to let us all know what they’re up to.
Good morning, and Happy Thanksgiving! Today I am giving thanks for all my blessings which includes all my friends at FireDogLake. You all have made the last few years tolerable and even fun. Thank you.
Happy thanksgiving, all you rabid lambs. We got them in office, now’s the time to hold their feet to the fire.
I’m about to defy the government’s recommendations, and go stuff a turkey before cooking it.
Thank you Pach for giving up some of your holiday time to write a post for us.
Thank you to everyone, posters and commentors alike who add so much to my life and to the public discourse. I have watched you move mountains.
Have a wonderful day with you families, and if you can’t be with you family today, have a wonderful day thinking about the good times with them and knowing they are thinking of you.
Happy Thanksgiving..
Here’s a good website that is pushing the same issue – Just $6
GrandmaJ @
3
A Central Scrutinizer.
Happy Holidays!
Thanks for this entry! Running an anti-war website, I usually take a sour, negative view of political developments. This entry enabled me to maintain that tone, while still being positive for Thanksgiving!
Happy Thanksgiving to All
I’d say we have more than our fair share of political turkeys to get stuffed and the election was just a way of preheating the oven…heh,… we have plenty of thyme to cover ‘em all.
Thanks again to everyone who makes this site as excellent as it is. I’m hoping to de-lurk more often to jump in.
Investigative hearings for all!
Finally saw “V for Vendetta” last night. Very cool, and some eerie parallels.
Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone!
I have been reading this fantastic blog for a long time but have never posted a comment before and feel a little awkward coming out of lurking mode. But, I am confused and disturbed about this post. So Steny Hoyer’s reception was hosted by lobbyists and he has voted to support their interests and now he is going to help clean up the lobbying mess? But his reception was swarming with lobbyists and on their turf? Maybe this is a gross oversimplification or maybe I’ve missed something, but is my understanding correct? Hope someone with more wisdom than I have can help me clear the cobwebs. Well, anyway one thing I am thankful for is Firedoglake and the other progressive blogs.
Good morning and Happy Thanksgiving!
We will have to watch the lobbying issue pretty closely, as money will find a way to corrupt, and there’s SO much money.
Perhaps if we use our emerging netroots power to constantly monitor and pressure our reps to do the right thing…?
Corporate lobbying must be ended.
Congress must represent the people not corporations.
How to do this?
Each lobbyist.. is allowed X hrs a year to meet with Y congress critter.
And all campaigns MUST be publically financed.. No private money can be spent NONE.
No gifts, no freebies.. no parties, no lunches, golf trips… no writing legilation.
Anyone can advocate their position for X hrs or Y pages of documentation of their position. End of story. Everything else is a violation of law and punishable by not less than 10 yrs in fed prison.
If congress critters need to learn about an issue.. let them Google, LexusNexus or go to a library and read.
Crush paid lobbyists now and forever.
I think we can allow lobiests to open debate in c-span too
Happy Thanksgiving. Here’s some words to munch along with your Turkey (It’s an article I was worked on for the better part of this summer.)
And let’s make sure this country stays out of the K(street)Hole.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Since this is whats legal:
$2,000 per Election to a Federal candidate — Each primary, runoff, and general election counts as a separate election.
$5,000 per calendar year to a PAC or State party committee — A PAC is a “Political Action Committee.” PACs and party committees give the money you give them to candidates they support.
$25,000 per calendar year to a national party committee — applies separately to a party’s national committee, and House and Senate campaign committee.
$10,000 per calendar year to state, district & local party committees
$5,000 per calendar year to state, district & local party committee
Married couples are considered to be separate individuals with separate contribution limits.
. . . i don’t see how campaign contributions (alone) are poisoning the system. Is there some way they are circumventing the law that I’m not understanding?
I’m not saying the status quo is acceptable. I’m just saying with the above being the legal parameters, corporations cannot buy Members of Congress.
What am I missing?
Gee, does this mean George Allen won’t be applying for a job as a lobbyist? ‘Cause Gawd knows he ain’t getting a job as a cowboy anytime soon.
Happy Holidays!
mainsailset @ 36
i predict G. Allen takes a job with the NRA.
I think Felix should go hunting with Cheney in a National Park…
real soon.
What say the lobbyists use their buffets and cocktails and feed the homeless and hungry.
Happy Thanksgiving to FDL, owners, posters, lurkers, friends and trolls alike.
May even Dick Cheney have his Grinch moment and become a human for the first time in decades.
-GSD
rkrider @ 24
A tasty Thanksgiving to everyone and please check out rkriders’ suggestion.
Pachacutec: What should we do with K Street?
Not take it over.
We should blow it (the lobbying industry) up, in order to restore government of the people, by the people and for the people.
But then what will all the politicians and their staff do for a living once they’re out of government? They’ll have to find something useful to do with themselves!
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
21 Reasons to be thankful.
Courtesy of Thinkprogress.
-GSD
I’m extremely grateful for FDL. The evil criminal usurper bastids that rule us want to kill hope, but FDL keeps it alive.
Thanks to Jane, Christy, Pach, Swopa, and the 60 million-year-old reptile! And everybody who supports FDL.
lina @ 35
One thing you may be missing is that corporate executives can “double up.” The lobbying arm can give money, and then each member of the board can give the same amount. You or I, if we have that kind of money to give in the first place, can only give it once.
A second issue is that each of several pharmaceutical companies can do this, and can do it to multiple members of Congress. How do we, as individuals with more limited means, get our voices in effectively around the edges of bloc-building like that? Most likely, we don’t…and forming nonprofits to game the system is joining it, not beating it.
At least we can be thankful that Hoyer made a promise we can hold him to.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
I would be very thankful if K Street is blown up and out of our lives forever.
Here is something that happens at publicly funded community health centers: At least one time per month the “drug reps” show up, and bring lunch in for the entire staff. They then provide an inservice to educate the staff about one of their drugs, er medications. The staff lines up for these “free lunches.” A few people may mumble something about the high cost of medications and how much do these lunches cost. But most of them eat and make demands like, hey, about more cookies, or more vegetables, or that was too greasy, etc., etc. But they eat. Publicly funded mental health services are floundering, and services are not sufficient to meet the needs. Direct service providers are drowning in paperwork and struggling to keep up with ridiculous productivity requirements. But they eat that damned drug rep food. And the drug companies are flourishing, and the people are suffering. In a nutshell, I think this is the outcome of corporate lobbying in all its forms. People suffer and corporations prosper, while throwing a few crumbs out to those who help keep them going. Yes, blow up K street.
Linda @ 47
But what about the catering and deli lobby?
Twisted Martini: But what about the catering and deli lobby?
I’ll believe Hoyer’s “pledge” when he introduces a bill for retraining people in the catering, deli and cocktail-weenie industries.
Twisted Martini @ 47
Aww, let them eat cake.
I hope everyone has a pleasant holiday, everyone gets enough to eat (even by Thanksgiving standards :) ), and that everyone gets in some good conversation and the opportunity to reflect on what was said.
Cheers.
Linda @ 46
Again, I don’t see the connection. How is buying someone’s lunch in a community clinic connected to writing legislation that benefits a whole industry?
I used to work in an AIDS social services agency. Glaxo Wellcome (sp?) used to occasionally pay for lunch at county-wide meetings. Did they think we (the grunts) were going to influence anyone writing laws?
Linda @ 50
The Baking Industry Lobby thanks you.
:-)
IMO, that’s the most important.
John Casper @ 54
Agree totally. They do it in Arizona, why not the whole country?
A big problem that connects the issues of lobbying and undue influence is the Revolving Door policy that allows individuals to move from corporation to office too easily. Legislation can be passed to benefit an industry and then the politician is rewarded with a position when leaving office.
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
Happy Thanksgiving, gang. Taking a break from cooking and cleaning. Pleased to say that after the silverpolishing frenzy brought on by huffing NeverDull fumes in the wee hours of the night, the hideous black stains on my fingers are now gone, eroded by too much scrubbing.
Oh, what’s a family holiday without some obsessive -compulsive behavior?
Enjoy your respective celebrations. Got to hit the shower before the inlaws arrive.
Somebody pour me a vodka-rocks-twist. It’ll be noon here soon. [phew]
p.s. marily, you out there? got your back, been through the same sequence you cited last nite/morning, too. Got lucky and managed to re-do a few of them and they went okay this time. For that I am truly, truly thankful.
“We believe that corporations are not persons and possess only the privileges we willfully grant them. Granting corporations the status of legal “persons” effectively rewrites the Constitution to serve corporate interests as though they were human interests. Ultimately, the doctrine of granting constitutional rights to corporations gives a thing illegitimate privilege and power that undermines our freedom and authority as citizens. While corporations are setting the agenda on issues in our Congress and courts, We the People are not; for we can never speak as loudly with our own voices as corporations can with the unlimited amplification of money.”
Above from this site, one of many that turn up via a Google search.
The notion that money equals speech is pernicious, and revoking 1st amendment rights of corporation would be one way to fight it, but I can imagine ways around that. Prohibiting corporate money from the arena of political speech is a worthwhile goal, but the path up the mountain is steep and would be against a hurricane force wind. Is there unity amongst those within the community as to a road map? Unity of purpose is necessary but not sufficient. Who shall command? What are the tactics?
One way that corporations can influence legislators is by employing their family members. Do recall that RGJoe’s wife makes a whole lot of money every year as a Pharmaceuticals Industry lobbyist. Many members of Congress have wives or children pulling down huge salaries and consulting fees from the industries they are writing law about.
My first reaction is to get pissed off but
it’s Thanksgiving… More delays?
Jack
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01998.html
Checking in during the lull between the early morning pie-salad-soup-making rush and the afternoon turkey-stuffing-gravy-potatoes-making rush. Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Wanted to stop by to tell all the Firedoggies to have a lovely Thanksgiving.
Peace and turkeyness 4ever!
no tolerance for crime and influence peddling.
it is a disgusting fact that we have murtha or hoyer, both on the take it appears from their records. Why?
are our tic’s somehow better if their crimes are less?
no tolerance
Simp @
11
Yes! I had no idea this was done until I read a Daily Kos diary about it.
Big-time wishes to all for a very lovely holiday.
Linda @
29
Welcome. Linda, you are exactly right. Hoyer hit completely the wrong note with this party, as did Clyburn. I hope National Democrats realize the people want a radical change in the way our business is done in our Capital City.
Money out of campaigns. Lobbyists out of DeeCee. The people’s business must take priority. End corporate personhood.
These are all big steps, but this corrupt system will not yield to incremental attacks. Hoyer and Clyburn proved this to us.
Oh, Happy Thanksgiving to All! So much to be thankful for today!
How long will it take if Fitzy appeals the Judge?
Is gray mail working, oh please say no!
Jack
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01998.html
egregious @
34
left you and others a WaPo Larry Kissell article link last thread EPU’d.
Apparently, Robin Hayes would like Larry not to want a hand recount. Ha!
ot – indefinite curfew just announced for Baghad – over 140 killed in coordinated car bombs today plus gunmen attack ministry of health, US soldiers shoot 4 at check point and there’s been a second bombing inside the green zone …
rumi @
55
According to Pach’s linked article:
Clearly “our” guys are not immune.
For Lina @ 51
Here is one link you might want to look at:
http://www.slate.com/id/2119712/ “How Drug Companies Keep Tabs on Physicians” Also check out this page: http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind…..bby_groups and, this article:
http://www.universaldrugstore……oblems.pdf
No, the grunts may not directly influence policy (unless they form a lobbying group ;)), but the money spent all flows uphill, back to the company, which can then spend money lobbying for its interests. These interests may have much more to do with profitability than making medicines to help people. And we live in a corporate-culture that makes it hard to see what is happening. Thank you for the question! It has inspired an idea for a blog. More to come….
beth meacham @ 59
Jack Murtha’s brother Kit, for another instance:
http://www.ksaconsulting.net/robert%20murtha.htm
P J Evans @ 7
Why don’t you it’s EZ (& fun)just some cardboard & paint. hp://psychomikeos.blogspot.com/
Steny helped push through the Bankrupcy Bill. Doesn’t look like he cares about the little guy. I don’t trust him.
lina says:
November 23rd, 2006 at 7:29 am *
What am I missing?
Plus, Congresscritters come amazingly cheap.
Every household should have one.
Good Morning Everyone,
Happy Thanksgiving. We have much to be thankful for today. Who would have ever guessed that we would be enjoying this Thanksgiving with an incoming Democratic Congress?
One commenter offered a suggestion a few weeks ago and I wish I could give that person credit.
The idea he/she proposed was to keep all lobbyists, ex-Members of Congress, anyone who is not conducting the business of that body, off the floor of the House and Senate. I thought that was a very good idea then and still do today.
Ms. Hamsher’s upstairs with new thread!
First, Happy Thanksgiving, all, and thanks to Pach for taking time on this day to post.
lina @ 35
You might want to peruse open secrets to see the extent of the problem, and particularly the soft money and 527 pages.
Nuke it from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
Siun @ 69
I feel more than a little guilty having Thanksgiving on a day when we are responsible for so much misery in Iraq, Afghanistan, Darfur, Palestine and so many other places where we could have done more good than evil.
I don’t trust Hoyer further than I can throw him, but as a constituent of his, I’ll do what I can to keep the heat on him.
Maybe I should start a blog focused on the doings of our new Majority Leader. It’s worth a thought.
Simp @
11
While I totally agree with the ending of personhood for corporations, reality says that it not going to happen. So the next best thing would be to apply all the “personhood” criteria (read that as laws) to corporations. That includes liability, taxes, etc. If they want all the benefits, then they should also carry all the responsibilities as well. And this is something that a Democratic Congress can do without asking the Supreme Court for permission.
Also as a added benefit, the blogs are always there to keep the political world exposed, both their good and bad deeds. THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT AND MOST EFFECTIVE TOOL AVAILABLE TO THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Bb
RT @ 81
what a great idea! i hope you can. we’ll all be checking it.
Blow it up.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
I think we should ask our congress people to post on a website their contacts with lobbyists. They could list the contact, the substance of the meeting, and the total amount contributed during the past 24 months of the contact. If this were done on a website, then people could post their view of the issue. Free.