
RevDeb sent me a link to an article from 2003 about the death of President John F. Kennedy that contained a portion that I wanted to share with all of you today:
It was not the product of party or ideology; rather the reverse. For all his amused affection for his brawling fellow Democrats, Kennedy was a skeptical partisan at best. "Sometimes," he said more than once, "party loyalty demands too much." He was even more skeptical of ideology. Liberals, he said, "tend to underestimate the importance of winning"; conservatives too often "close their eyes to society's needs." Predictably, he was viewed with suspicion by both the left and the right. Liberals eschewed him for Adlai Stevenson at the 1960 Democratic National Convention; conservatives stampeded to Lyndon Johnson at the convention and to Richard Nixon in the general election. But Kennedy did something no politician had done at least since Theodore Roosevelt. He electrified much of a generation, many of whom had previously neither known nor cared about politics and government.His famous call to "ask not what your country can do for you" is now so well known it's a cliche. Who remembers today how radical a departure that was from the lunch pail political rhetoric of the 1940s and '50s? Who had ever run for office before by asking us to give rather than take?
Politics in the 1950s -- at least in image -- was the province of greasy, balding fat men with wet cigars and wide ties. They were the ward heelers and aldermen and lodge brothers of a Ralph Kramden America, leavened out with the occasional plutocrat or statesman. They brokered candidates in smoke-filled rooms and wore funny hats in chaotic conventions where they thronged as much to get away from their wives as to choose our leaders. Younger political hopefuls had to butter them up or buy them out and wait their turn to run. Elections were "delivered" by "passing the word." Predictability was political gold. New ideas and faces were suspect, and politics usually catered not to the best in us but to the worst.
Onto that scene sailed John F. Kennedy with a gospel of sacrifice and vigor. The youngest president ever elected to the White House took us in a whole new direction. He invited artists and musicians and Nobel laureates to the White House because he said he wanted to celebrate the best in our culture. He played touch football and unleashed a fad for 50-mile hikes, because, he said, we had physical challenges to meet as well as mental ones.
He'd been a cipher as a congressman and only mildly attentive as a senator, but he grew with his responsibilities. He called for a New Frontier that would test us with something like the challenges our grandparents had met. He was hip and funny and smart as hell. He took the world situation seriously, but unlike most of the old pols posturing around him, he didn't seem to take himself seriously at all. He was almost flip about the pain of his lifelong back problems -- made worse by war wounds -- and the tragedies in his life. "Life isn't fair," he told us "but government should be."
Kennedy's genius as a leader was to appeal not to the worst that is in us, but to the best -- and to make that appeal tug at our heartstrings and our brains at the same time, planting little ideas that if we would only stretch a little bit further, that we might be able to reach a star.
President Kennedy's famous acceptance speech to the New York Liberal party nomination in 1960 is ever inspiring. But it is this segment that always lifts me out of my chair and onward toward a duty to my nation and my fellow man, and toward a better version of myself:
I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a superstate. I see no magic in tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale federal bureaucracies in this administration as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them....Many of these same immigrant families produced the pioneers and builders of the American labor movement. They are the men who sweated in our shops, who struggled to create a union, and who were driven by longing for education for their children and for the children's development. They went to night schools; they built their own future, their union's future, and their country's future, brick by brick, block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, and now in their children's time, suburb by suburb.
Tonight we salute George Meany as a symbol of that struggle and as a reminder that the fight to eliminate poverty and human exploitation is a fight that goes on in our day. But in 1960 the cause of liberalism cannot content itself with carrying on the fight for human justice and economic liberalism here at home. For here and around the world the fear of war hangs over us every morning and every night. It lies, expressed or silent, in the minds of every American. We cannot banish it by repeating that we are economically first or that we are militarily first, for saying so doesn't make it so. More will be needed than goodwill missions or talking back to Soviet politicians or increasing the tempo of the arms race. More will be needed than good intentions, for we know where that paving leads.
In Winston Churchill's words, "We cannot escape our dangers by recoiling from them. We dare not pretend such dangers do not exist."...
This is an important election -- in many ways as important as any this century -- and I think that the Democratic Party and the Liberal Party here in New York, and those who believe in progress all over the United States, should be associated with us in this great effort. The reason that Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson had influence abroad, and the United States in their time had it, was because they moved this country here at home, because they stood for something here in the United States, for expanding the benefits of our society to our own people, and the people around the world looked to us as a symbol of hope.
Hope is very powerful. Hope in the hands of a people who are inspired to reach even further toward a dream of a better society is more powerful still. Let us all take President Kennedy up on his challenge, and rise up together to reach for the stars.
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Here’s another bit of history, courtesy of my friend Cathy:
“Frederick Douglass, the renowned abolitionist, began life as a slave on Maryland’s Eastern Shore. When his owner had trouble with the young, unruly slave, Douglass was sent to Edward Covey, a notorious “slave breaker.” Covey’s plantation, where physical and psychological torture were standard, was called Mount Misery. Douglass eventually fought back, escaped to the North and went on to change the world. Today Mount Misery is owned by Donald Rumsfeld, the outgoing secretary of defense.”
John FITZgerald Kennedy!
Thank you for giving both of these pieces a bigger audience.
Many of us were alive to remember the hope that was palpable when JFK was elected and was shattered when he was killed. I don’t know who or what will step into the void that we still feel these 43 years later.
May he rest in peace and may the hope he inspired keep inspiring us to do better and be better.
Christy,
Thom Hartman has used Kennedy’s “I believe also in the United States of America” speech you concluded with a few times on his program. It was taped on audio, possibly on video. Hearing JFK say it with utter conviction makes an indelible impression.
JFK, RFK and MLK.
Where would our country be if these lives had not been taken from us?
Thanks for the thread, Christy, and right on!……”Kennedy’s genius as a leader was to appeal not to the worst that is in us, but to the best — and to make that appeal tug at our heartstrings and our brains at the same time, planting little ideas that if we would only stretch a little bit further, that we might be able to reach a star.”
Grandmaj from previous thread: Sophomore, 6th hour Chemistry class. And your comment was so appropriate — for four days the world stopped.
History is a great vehicle. Kennedy’s gets polish after tarnish. Again and again.
My father is the same age. He was so thrilled to have a young president, one his age, when JFK was elected.
Jackie was only 34 when he died. One thing that has impressed me was her quick study on the “state funeral.” I wonder how many of us would have had the ability to plan that in the immediate aftermath of the/her experience of Dallas?
I give her a lot of cred for what she came up with.
Kennedy was the beacon for so many Catholics and Hispanics in my region. It was a tragedy to lose him so early, regardless of the lead up to Vietnam. Polish, tarnish. Polish.
“Politics in the 1950s — at least in image — was the province of greasy, balding fat men with wet cigars and wide ties.”
…….sounds like Boss Tweed.
RevDeb — thanks so much for sending that article along the other day. It’s very well done, and was a great read. Much appreciated.
The State of the Union address is usually a big statement of policy prescriptions, and the rhetorical takes a back seat to the political. But JFK was a master of blending the two. Here are a couple of interesting - and timely - excerpts:
From 1961, just a few weeks after taking office:
From 1962:
From 1963:
Partnership and accountability in governing, holding the nation’s ideals up to the world, and leaving fear astern . . . Timely indeed.
In the words of the funeral liturgy, “Rest eternal grant him, O Lord, and may light perpetual shine upon him.”
ccmask @ 9
Or Rush Limbaugh.
Thanks for the memory. I saw him campaign in Springfield’Ohio from the back of a railroad car. Probably the last time in American history that was done for real, and not as a publicity stunt. I watched the address on TV as an inexperienced ward attendant in the psychiatric wing of Columbian Presbyterian hospital. It was a cold winter. Cold in Washngton and there was ice on the Hudson. I was one of the Stevenson supporters, and was slow to warm to him, mainly because of his reluctance to push ahead on Civil Rights legislation (though we know how hard it was to get anything through the Southern-controlled caucus). His death marked all of us. I was working at the Peace Corps in Washington at the time, where a lot of people had known him personally. His death was devastating. Seems so long ago, now, and yet still like yesterday.
Peterr at 11
Not SOTU but one of my favs:
“For in the final analysis our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children’s future, and we are all mortal.”
(Speech at The American University, Washington, DC, 6-10-63)
My favorite, “Profiles in Courage”
Jack
Christy Hardin Smith @
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The printed out article was in one of my Thanksgiving files so when I went through planning for this week’s service, I read it and remembered why I printed it out. It was one of those pieces of writing that transport you to another time and place. So well done. You read it and then sit with it for a while. I am SO glad that it was still available on line. Thanks for sharing it with everyone.
Meanwhile, I see that Giuliani has filed his paperwork with the FEC this week. McCain is going to run. Mitt Romney is obviously going to run.
Why?
Why is any one of these individuals planning to run for president? What does any of them think he offers? Is it just that they feel entitled, or have nothing else to do?
Sheesh.
EvilDrPuma at 17 — ego?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 18
Pretty much. And that’s one reason that none of these wannabe candidates holds a candle to JFK. Sure, Kennedy had an ego, but he also had ideas and purpose. These bozos just think they deserve the job for its own sake.
Throw the bums out.
EvilDrPuma @ 17
There are so many promising types that you wish would run for office, yet every presidential cycle we seem to end up with a choice of trying to figure out who is the lesser of two evils.
I can’t remember ever casting a vote in a presidential general election that I was happy with. A few inspiring votes cast in the primaries, but never in the general.
Repbilicans, however, truly were thrilled to vote for Reagan.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 18
With WIllard, its all about his chiseled jaw and good hair. Beyond that he’s got nothing! Really, NOTHING. He just cut the budget to screw the homeless and mentally ill. There is no way that the activists in MA aren’t going to hold up every glaring misdeed and non-deed of the past 4 years up for the country to see. There’s no there there.
For all his flaws, JFK knew the power of words and challenged his countrymen to aspire to be an example to the rest of the world.
looseheadprop @ 20
“The soft bigotry of low expectations” was at work there, and tell me that isn’t ironic. Then we got Bush the Lesser, proving an evolution toward “the hard bigotry of no expectations.”
I agree, though. I was too young by ten years to vote in 1976, but Carter was the last presidential candidate I could say I would have felt genuinely proud to vote for. That’s thirty years ago! And the GOP talking heads are trying so damned hard to stuff a Hillary Clinton candidacy down our throats, as if we’ll believe that (gender notwithstanding) she’s the best we can do.
43 years ago we were all pumped-up, because at O.L. Slaton Jr. High at 1 O’clock, we were going to have an assembly featuring the “Velateens” … a very hot band.
There was a lot of grumbling in the hallways when the P.A. made the announcement for everyone to return to their home rooms.
trinityone @ 22
Yes, and who is doing that now? Really doing that–not indulging the cynical parody that BushCo has brought.
JFK had flaws. As far as I can tell, they never hindered his performance in office. Bush is nothing more than the sum of his flaws.
I remember well that day 43 years ago. I was in seventh grade science class when the school PA system told us that the President had been shot. Everyone put everything away quietly. When we passed through the halls, my homeroom teacher was in tears. We went home early that day and for the next four days we were all glued to the tv.
The images that come back are the black riderless horse with the backwards boots, the horse-drawn wagon with the coffin, and little John John saluting it as it went by.
The memories still bring overwhelming sadness to this day.
This is one of the problems empires suffer. The emperors never measure up to the supposed splendor of the empire.
When we were a republic, many of our leaders, like the last of them, JFK, did measure up.
Since then, one disappointment after another.
I know he’s taken a beating at FDL, but here goes: Obama might be the closest these days to JFK. Sure he’s cast a stupid vote in the Senate, but read his books, listen to him on the stomp for other candidates, consider his unusual background, and come to your own conclusions.
But please: keep an open mind.
One of my heroes (Trudeau and Clinton included).
I can only imagine where America would be today if this great man didn’t die (on the day I was born FFS!) so soon and so tragically.
I won a company value award a few years back. The prize was a painting of JFK. I see it everyday when I sit down at my desk at home. He still inspires me and this thread does to.
Thnx Christy.
OT– Dangerstein was chatting with Mrs. Greenspan on msnbc– the title below his mug said “democratic strategist”
Andrea said that Nancy can’t count votes (wrt Murtha).
blech. I sure hope they get rid of both of them soon.
angie @ 30
That’s two laughs in two words.
JFK Speech on Secret Societies and Freedom of the Press
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&eurl=
I know EvilDrPuma– I nearly fell over from the sudden rise in blood pressure and total contempt.
bittersweet: the date of JFK’s assassination is also my wife’s birthday.
Those who have tried to extinguish the eternal flame will burn in eternal hell for their efforts. ~ me
No more killing, or it’s over, and the mystery won’t matter anymore ~ Kris Kristofferson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rxm17Soz3c
I think perhaps one of our greatest tasks is restoring the reputation of government as a force for good. Republicans have gotten a long way by being relentlessly anti-government; worshipping the so-called “free market” while asserting that government is the problem, telling people that their tax money belongs to them, and that all of it is wasted. And as much as they have pushed those falsehoods, they have falsely characterized liberal views as being automatically the opposite of theirs (if they’re anti-tax and we’re not, we must be pro-tax; if they’re for small government - hah! - and we disagree, we’re therefore for big government.)
I hope that out of the floodwaters of Katrina and the corruption laid bare we can rebuild an understanding of the place of government. That, to paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke, government should be just “as large as necessary.” That the free market is efficient at producing things that are profitable, but if profit does not align with social good, it will not produce social good. That taxes are the price we pay for maintaining our civilization, and while no one likes paying them, taking advantage of their benefits while asserting no obligation to contribute is wrong.
While government by the people has often been imperfect in the past, and the tools of mass communication have frequently been used to undermine government and help the powerful escape its strictures for their own benefit, I believe we have an opportunity to use the new tools of mass communication and participation to make government of the people, by the people, and for the people more of a reality than ever before. I believe this is the task, the duty for our time.
punaise @ 34
Are you married to Jamie Lee Curtis or Mariel Hemingway?
John Fitzgerald Kennedy. I remember thee. And it will remain thus. Abraham, Martin, Bobby, Yitzhack Rabin and Anwar al-Sadat. And Rachel Corrie. Precious people to me.
This is a very good question, it’s just too bad that it is impossible to find what the aspirants really think.
Lots of people have a higher opinion of their worth than can be justifiably derived from their past performance. I’m reminded of a study that hints that the less well informed, more dogmatic individuals may not have the wit to assess their own shortcomings, while their intellectual betters may see their own flaws and are dissuaded from seeking higher position in society. A perverse kind of sorting that winnows the wheat from the chaff, and then trows the wheat away.
angie @ 33
I wasn’t going to sully a JFK thread, but with this reminder I may as well utter my daily affirmation now:
my contempt for Joe Lieberman will never subside.
Thanks, Christy, for your memorable article on this,the 43rd. anniversay of JFK’s death.
Those of us able to remember that black day certainly have it etched in our consciousnness:
It was early on a Friday evening in Germany. I and my husband, a U.S. Army officer stationed in Frankfurt, had joined 2 Army friends for dinner at our favorite restaurant. Word swept through the room about the fatal shooting of JFK. Everyone was stunned, shocked into mass sadness. Germans waiting on the tables had tears rolling down their faces. (Later during that weekend, German residents everywhere had candles burning in their windows for the fallen American leader). President Kennedy had visited Germany in the recent past, giving his famous “Ich Bin Ein Berliner” speech…..He was appreciated and loved there.
- Valerie Sanford, Los Angeles
Peterr @ 37
both. we live in Utah.
as i was driving in to work today, i recalled this day 43 years ago. i was wondering if anyone else would remember. and then i came to the lake for some refreshment and i got my answer. thank you revdeb and christy
I was sitting in the cafeteria at college having a cup of coffee. The noise of conversation dropped to zero when the announcement came over the PA. It remained silent for the rest of the day, and was somber in all my classes for the next week.
Redshift @ 9:11:
From the end of the 1961 State of the Union:
Controversy can be healthy, and proud public service is a badge of honor. Today, the administration outs undercover public servants like Valerie Plame Wilson, stifles dissent and even discussion within its own ranks (see NASA, NIH, CDC, FDA, and anyone involved in climate study), and measures service by proximity and loyalty to the current occupant of the oval office.
How sad.
We can do better, and I do not doubt that we will.
punaise @ 42
Thank you folks, we’ll be here all week . . . try the turkey.
Camelot. Oh I yearn for Camelot. Never again to be.
jeffreyw @ 39
I remember reading about that study, too. It dovetails nicely with the studies that say depressives actually have the most accurate perceptions of themselves; everyone else thinks they are better than average on everything.
Oh, man. Just got the list of participants in a forum in which I’ll be participating in a couple of weeks…and it’s quite the intimidating list of folks. Yikes! Guess I’d better get to work on my speech…
kristinejoy @ 48
Speaking as a depressive (I’m fine at the moment, thanks!), I have to call that a pretty cynical conclusion. My self-perception when in a funk are in no way accurate–they’re just negative. I suppose that becomes accuracy in comparison to an overblown estimation, but perhaps a more objective assessment would be better still?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 49
You’ll impress the hell out of ‘em.
My parents are of the same generation as JFK and Jackie Kennedy. I’m looking at a photo here on my desk of my sister and I going to Easter Mass in about 1966 looking like little Jackie clones with our white gloves, hats, and dresses with matching jackets. In our house, we loved JFK and RFK because they were like us - ethnic, Catholic, hard working, and a respect for human dignity regardless of social level. They were very good men who had their heads and hearts in the right place. Mom can still be brought to tears over their deaths, even today. I was too young to remember JFK’s death, but remember how horrible 1968 was with the losses of both RFK and MLK. I don’t think I could appreciate what was going on but I remember my parents’ reaction and the feeling that something important was over.
Like T-Rex, I wonder what our country would be like today if the Kennedy boys and MLK had lived. It’s rare to find the needed levels of strength AND compassion in single people.
if we look back at the ‘00 elections and think “what if..?”, do that in reverse and think back at the ‘60 election and think “what if”…
think Cuba missile crisis with Nixon on the button, and the world could have been a barren wasteland…
I surely did sully the thread with those names, punaise.
sorry, all.
I was a tot at home in D.C. on November 22, 1963 and saw my mother crying and watching tv– she never did either in our presence; she was always too busy caring for all of us. My dad was shaken, too. I had never seen my parents so sad ’til then.
There was a deep quiet and sadness in our home for days.
He was a giant to so many and a beacon of hope.
Evil at 51 — I’m honored to be asked to participate in this, frankly. It’s a conference that the Eisenhower Foundation is putting together on poverty, race and the media and on the issues that do not get nearly enough discussion in our society these days. My ongoing discussions regarding Katrina aftermath and on child abuse and neglect and other issues on class and social justice apparently caught someone’s eye over there — but the list of folks who will be speaking to these issues over the course of the day is really a wonderful one. Looking forward to hearing everyone else and talking with them about all of the issues we’ll be covering on panel discussions.
dachoste @ 53
Thankfully, we don’t live in that parallel universe.
OT
What ever fate Rumsfailed has in store, he can’t suffer enough.
I may write a play , I’ve got the title and the opening line :
” Rumsfailed’s First Day In Hell “
{ The Devil }
Donald, you come to Hell with the soul you have, not the one you want.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 49
I’m having a hard time coming up with anyone who would intimidate you, Christy.
Now the list of folks who would make you want to stand up and deliver your very best . . . that list gets pretty long pretty fast. Just off the top of
my headthe thread, I come up with angie, Impeachment Happens, witchywoman, RevDeb, Ed*ard Teller . . .Go get ‘em, Christy, whoever they are and whatever forum it is.
kristinejoy @ 48
Depressives have the most accurate perceptions of the world. They have no illusions. They see the world as it really is.
43 years ago today I was a callow freshman at our small town high school, 700 students in four grades, and there was nothing from school that day I remember other than the grim news.
What I can remember from those days are the numbed looks on tear streaked faces, the stifled sob from Cronkite, the bloody dress Jackie wore, the photo of the hasty swearing of LBJ, the salute from the forlorn child, the muffled drums down Pennsylvania Avenue. I’m crying now as I type. For what we lost, and for where we are today. That man is still president.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 55
We know what you’re capable of, and I for one am glad to have the likes of you making public statements on those issues. You’re going to do yourself proud.
Biodun @ 59
If I really believed that, I wouldn’t just be depressive, I’d be suicidal.
JFK also saw the Fed for what it was: http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/.....r11110.htm
America: From Freedom to Fascism (1h50m)
http://video.google.com/videop.....;q=freedom
I remember where I was the day Kennedy ws shot. I was five years old and my Mom was ironing and listening to the radio broadcast from Dallas when she suddenly broke down in tears. I remember saying, “Mommy, are they going to shoot us all?”
JFK’s death was my loss of innocence.
6 years after his murder, I watched the first moonshot lift off from, what was then, Cape Kennedy. 20 years after his death, I joined the Peace Corps. And now 43 years later, his words still mean so much to me, and my country.
RevDeb and Christy, thanks.
Thank you RevDeb and Christy for memorializing this sad day. My fourth-grade teacher stepped out of the classroom, returned red-faced to dismiss us from school, telling us something bad had happened to the President but not to listen to older kids on our way home. Then she started crying. I arrived home to find my nana crying in front of the black-and-white, on which Walter Cronkite who also appeared to be crying. Mom arrived home shortly thereafter, crying. Dad, too. Everyone but my four-year-old brother was crying that day. He and I really bonded; I’d had little use for him before. But, that day, being away from crying grownups had real value.
Riderless horse.
Cassion.
Drums.
Fatherless lad saluting.
Pain on brothers’ faces.
Like yesterday.
CHS 55 — I note that Ambassador Wilson has been a previous panelist for the Eisenhower Foundation. Think of it this way: you’re following in the footsteps of friends.
You’ll do fine, Christy. Just be yourself, a mother, a writer, a lawyer, an experienced prosecutor — and passionate about what you believe and what you do.
Ever notice how it’s mostly the political and social liberals that get murdered?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 67
If that is true, it’s because it’s mostly the political and social reactionaries who think a gun has the power to solve a problem.
Two days later …… The shock of seeing Lee Harvey shot live on TV.
That’s went TV officially turned into an 800 lb. gorilla.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 67
A mere statistical aberration. You know. Like the ‘04 exit polls.
FDR:
My very first involvement in Democratic politics was in the fall of 1960 (I was 12). JFK did a campaign stop in Mt. Clemens MI. My local Democratic committee asked me to play their calliope at the rally, mounted on a trailer with a gas engine run blower (not steam). I played some marching songs and other patriotic airs.
The Kennedy campaign people had arranged for a band to accompany them. The calliope was so loud that it was drowning out the band a block away.
I was asked to stop - a pre-presidential command non-performance.
I was in the library (were I had been when the Cuban crisis resolved) when the news came in 1963. It felt like the world had ended, That hope had died.
one world ended on 11/22/63 and another one began that took me through Vietnam. God, do I miss that person…especially, when I see or hear the current wasted form who comes from crawford…
Christy … Just picture everyone in their under ware.EvilDrPuma @ 68
I was trying to think of an American Right winger that has been killed by someone other than his own people, George Wallace maybe.
EvilDrPuma @ 50
Objective assessment of self-perception? Good luck with that.
And this is established in the literature. If you ask people to rank themselves compared to others in the room, or predict how well they will do on a test, people who test positive for depressive symptoms are more accurate in their self-assessments than the typical population.
My comment says nothing about the ravages of an illness so painful that it incapacitates and kills.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 67
On the other hand, if a rightist monarch (all monarchs are rightists) gets shot, it can lead to a world war. Look at World War I.
I’m a very hard sell when it comes to conspiracies. But I have never found satisfaction with the Warren Commission’s conclusions surrounding the death of JFK.
Bush is a comma in a Hague sentenance.
This is what I keep trying to say. What part of “electrify much of a generation, many of whom had previously neither known nor cared about politics and government.” do the Democrats not understand?
I remember Kennedy and I remember King - they knew how to speak - it’s as simple as that. There is no one being considered for the Democratic nomination who comes within a country mile of having the necessary quality. Whoever says Obama simply doesn’t get it. The man is tongue-tied and tentative. Forget about Obama; forget about Kerry; forget about Gore; forget about Hillary; forget about Edwards. You can argue their relative merits but not one of them has more than 10% of what’s needed.
WAKE UP DEMOCRATS! YOU’RE BLOWING THE BEST OPPORTUNITY IN DECADES!
RevDeb at 26 said:
The images that come back are the black riderless horse with the backwards boots, the horse-drawn wagon with the coffin, and little John John saluting it as it went by.
Thanks for bringing another memory so very clear to me today that I have tears in my eyes. I, too, watched that horse during the funeral procession, and I watched that horse prance, and fight the bit and the man holding him. The soldier never wavered and the horse went along. It so reminded me of Kennedy’s energy. And I longed for the horse to get away (this was a 17 yr old horse lover talkin) and fly across the fields and be free of earth and all the pain here.
I wonder whatever happened to that horse after the funeral. I hope he had the greenest of pastures, and the best of hay, and never saw a saddle or bit again. O.K. I am crying even more.
Oh, yay! The Peanut’s Christmas dress just arrived in the mail. :) But I’m a little worried it will be too small in the size that I ordered because she is so tall. Will have to wait until after nap time and try it on her…
obsessed — apparently you didn’t catch this speech in January?
Christy 81 — not to worry if it’s too short; could whip up a little underskirt with a matching/complementing trim along the hem. Keep me posted, this kind of thing only takes about 30 minutes to whip up.
As for speechifying, nobody in recent memory could beat Barbara Jordan in my estimation.
Rayne at 83 — I got her those cute little snowflake tights to go with it — they have an adorable little red ruffle on the behind. hehehehe She is going to look so adorable in it, but she has sprouted up another inch or so since I ordered the dress. Eeep! How do you keep up with them at this age and clothes?
Christy — best of luck sending the ‘prettiest dress ever’ back, no matter whether it fits or not. Once a pretty dress is on the prettiest of little princesses, that dress does NOT come off. My daughter has a 7 yr old princess with imaginery friends and she must always wear her prettist of princess dresses when ‘entertaining her friends.’
sofistic at 84 — Barbara Jordan was amazing and mesmerizing when she spoke. The only person that I can think of who comes close in public rhetorical ability would be the Cuomo speech to the DNC back in the 1980s. I can remember sitting transfixed in front of our television, soaking in his speech. Wonderful stuff. One of these days, I’ll have to see if there is a YouTube of it floating around somewhere.
dachoste @
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Nixon would have invaded Cuba waaaaay before then.
The dress is adorable - like a little Missie Claus! Did she get the purse, too?
I was only 11 at the time, but Novemeber 22, 1963 is a day that will burn in my memory forever. After hearing in Homeroom that the President had been shot, we were let home early and we were glued to the TV for the next 4 days. Those of us who were old enough to remember those following days do so with a sadness that has been unrelenting over the years. I will think again today of the future that we collectively lost and how it could have been had Jack, Bobby and Martin not been taken away before their time.
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Yikes! - but, thanks, Peterr. If I intimidate anybody here, please understand that it is only to get practice for the real work of intimidating the opposition.
Off topic, but I hope some here might be interested in helping this woman, or at least helping spread the word about her situation
Please help Lee Kitchen, and help spread the word
You know, this describes Mr. Patrick J. Fitzgerald, and probably why some of us like him. I think one of the Kennedys was his dad’s hero.
JoyB at 89 — no, didn’t get the purse. That tends to end up being a “weapon used on the dachshund” sort of thing at this age. *g* And I figured that PJ (our doggie) deserved a Christmas present of her own…so I didn’t order the purse. lol
I can’t edit, so let me just snip it do