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		<title>By: Zorko</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/22/bipartisan-irritant-its-the-new-black/#comment-392618</link>
		<dc:creator>Zorko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wish Joe would go pour himself a tall, frosty mug of STFU.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Guitar_Playing_Bastard</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/22/bipartisan-irritant-its-the-new-black/#comment-392398</link>
		<dc:creator>Guitar_Playing_Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-392097&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @&lt;br /&gt;
                92              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am going to everything I can possibly do, no matter how small or perhaps insignificant to help Senator Clinton to not get the Democratic nomination for the presidency for 2008.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please, let me know how I can help!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-392097"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @<br />
                92              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I am going to everything I can possibly do, no matter how small or perhaps insignificant to help Senator Clinton to not get the Democratic nomination for the presidency for 2008.</p>
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<p>Please, let me know how I can help!</p>
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		<title>By: Guitar_Playing_Bastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guitar_Playing_Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-391950&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TRex @&lt;br /&gt;
                6              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think I have to channel punaise here and say that my contempt for Joe Lieberman will never subside.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Contempt doesn’t even begin to describe what I think about that motherfucker. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nothing in my life would please me more than being able to go Klingon on him and send him to Stovolkohr. I hate that motherfucker as much as I hate Bush.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-391950"><em>TRex @<br />
                6              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I think I have to channel punaise here and say that my contempt for Joe Lieberman will never subside.</p>
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<p>Contempt doesn’t even begin to describe what I think about that motherfucker. </p>
<p>Nothing in my life would please me more than being able to go Klingon on him and send him to Stovolkohr. I hate that motherfucker as much as I hate Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen M</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/22/bipartisan-irritant-its-the-new-black/#comment-392223</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-392069&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @&lt;br /&gt;
                70              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Richard Clarke, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_11/010279.php&quot;&gt;via&lt;/a&gt; Kevin Drum:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In The March of Folly, Barbara Tuchman documented repeated instances when leaders persisted in disastrous policies well after they knew that success was no longer an available outcome. They did so because the personal consequences of admitting failure would be very high. So they postponed the disastrous end to their policy adventures, hoping for a deus ex machina or to eventually shift the blame. There is no need to do that now. Everyone already knows who is to blame. It is time to stop the adventure, lower our sights, and focus on America’s core interests. And that means withdrawal of major combat units.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;This would be a great book for an FDL book salon. Maybe her daughter would be willing to participate…?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-392069"><em>punaise @<br />
                70              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Richard Clarke, <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_11/010279.php">via</a> Kevin Drum:</p>
<blockquote><p>In The March of Folly, Barbara Tuchman documented repeated instances when leaders persisted in disastrous policies well after they knew that success was no longer an available outcome. They did so because the personal consequences of admitting failure would be very high. So they postponed the disastrous end to their policy adventures, hoping for a deus ex machina or to eventually shift the blame. There is no need to do that now. Everyone already knows who is to blame. It is time to stop the adventure, lower our sights, and focus on America’s core interests. And that means withdrawal of major combat units.</p>
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<p>This would be a great book for an FDL book salon. Maybe her daughter would be willing to participate…?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen M</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/22/bipartisan-irritant-its-the-new-black/#comment-392210</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-392053&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;HotFlash @&lt;br /&gt;
                60              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-391964&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;gleex @&lt;br /&gt;
                11              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;He is in the Senate anyway. He has six years as 1/100th the power of the Senate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People were stupid to elected him, who needs that kind of drama? Its like damn, God forbid there be 1/100th of the Senate a “liberal”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can’t see anyone wanting to take him on as anything unless it was payment to churn his seat. What is the party of the Gov. of Conn?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gov. Jody Rell is a Republican.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it two years, the Dems have a good chance to take a few more seats. Then Joe will no longer have the same power. And should he change sides between now and then, he’d really be screwed in 2009, because there would be absolutely no reason to grant him any favors. Period. He must be aware of that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-392053"><em>HotFlash @<br />
                60              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-391964"><em>gleex @<br />
                11              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>He is in the Senate anyway. He has six years as 1/100th the power of the Senate.</p>
<p>People were stupid to elected him, who needs that kind of drama? Its like damn, God forbid there be 1/100th of the Senate a “liberal”.</p>
<p>Can’t see anyone wanting to take him on as anything unless it was payment to churn his seat. What is the party of the Gov. of Conn?</p>
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<p>Gov. Jody Rell is a Republican.</p>
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<p>But it two years, the Dems have a good chance to take a few more seats. Then Joe will no longer have the same power. And should he change sides between now and then, he’d really be screwed in 2009, because there would be absolutely no reason to grant him any favors. Period. He must be aware of that.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/22/bipartisan-irritant-its-the-new-black/#comment-392182</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006/11/lieberman-on-hannity-colmes.html&quot;&gt;Gloating Joe on Hannity &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006/11/lieberman-on-hannity-colmes.html">Gloating Joe on Hannity </a></p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/22/bipartisan-irritant-its-the-new-black/#comment-392148</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-392118&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;HotFlash @ 98&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-392082&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mrs. K8 @&lt;br /&gt;
                79              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Coverage of Karmageddon on the eve of Thanksgiving is perfect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know I’m grateful for it.  Our household has been praying every night for these evil people to be tripped up in their own evil, for them to be caught up in the tangle of their own lies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seeing it unfold makes my heart swell in gratitude.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Happy Thanksgiving, Firepups!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also give thanks daily for the Ladies of the Lake and for you all seated here with me, lakeside, around the warmth of this fire.  This special place, and all of you, will be in my heart tomorrow when we say grace.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Mrs K8, you’re scaring me.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How so, dear heart?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re confusing me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-392118"><em>HotFlash @ 98</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-392082"><em>Mrs. K8 @<br />
                79              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Coverage of Karmageddon on the eve of Thanksgiving is perfect.</p>
<p>I know I’m grateful for it.  Our household has been praying every night for these evil people to be tripped up in their own evil, for them to be caught up in the tangle of their own lies.</p>
<p>Seeing it unfold makes my heart swell in gratitude.</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving, Firepups!</p>
<p>I also give thanks daily for the Ladies of the Lake and for you all seated here with me, lakeside, around the warmth of this fire.  This special place, and all of you, will be in my heart tomorrow when we say grace.</p>
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<p><b><br />
Mrs K8, you’re scaring me.</b></p>
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<p>How so, dear heart?  </p>
<p>You’re confusing me.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/22/bipartisan-irritant-its-the-new-black/#comment-392131</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-392090&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Janeane The Acerbic Goblin @&lt;br /&gt;
                85              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-391961&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Morris Sheppard @ 9 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In two years,&lt;strike&gt; if&lt;/strike&gt; when the Senate turns more Democratic, by even two votes, my guess is that the party leadership, along with everybody else, will be willing to throw Joe under the bus, where he belongs.  With no hold on the majority he will be powerless, and much disliked for what he has done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The few “moderate” Republicans, like the ones in Maine, could be enticed to switch parties.  The GOP is fast becoming a party of the deep South.  They’ve pretty much lost the Northeast, the Midwest, they’re starting to lose the Western states, and the Dems are even doing better in some of the plain states (Kansas and Missouri).  So if they could get Collins, Snowe, or Smith (from Oregon) to switch, Lieberman is completely neutralized.    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For myself, I can’t wait. McCain’s luster is already dimming, thank heaven, as he is exposed for the hack he is and his “bipartisanship” looks more and more like the self aggrandizing load of crap it is, and Joe won’t be far behind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Besides, the mound of manure he serves up as policy on Iraq is out of step with 60% of the country. Don’t you think someone may notice&lt;b&gt; that&lt;/b&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Funny, I always used to be able to see goblins.  Must be the new bifocals screwing up my second sight.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-392090"><em>Janeane The Acerbic Goblin @<br />
                85              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-391961"><em>Morris Sheppard @ 9 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>In two years,<strike> if</strike> when the Senate turns more Democratic, by even two votes, my guess is that the party leadership, along with everybody else, will be willing to throw Joe under the bus, where he belongs.  With no hold on the majority he will be powerless, and much disliked for what he has done.</p>
<p>The few “moderate” Republicans, like the ones in Maine, could be enticed to switch parties.  The GOP is fast becoming a party of the deep South.  They’ve pretty much lost the Northeast, the Midwest, they’re starting to lose the Western states, and the Dems are even doing better in some of the plain states (Kansas and Missouri).  So if they could get Collins, Snowe, or Smith (from Oregon) to switch, Lieberman is completely neutralized.    </p>
<p>For myself, I can’t wait. McCain’s luster is already dimming, thank heaven, as he is exposed for the hack he is and his “bipartisanship” looks more and more like the self aggrandizing load of crap it is, and Joe won’t be far behind.</p>
<p>Besides, the mound of manure he serves up as policy on Iraq is out of step with 60% of the country. Don’t you think someone may notice<b> that</b>?</p>
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<p>Funny, I always used to be able to see goblins.  Must be the new bifocals screwing up my second sight.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/22/bipartisan-irritant-its-the-new-black/#comment-392118</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-392082&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mrs. K8 @&lt;br /&gt;
                79              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Coverage of Karmageddon on the eve of Thanksgiving is perfect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know I’m grateful for it.  Our household has been praying every night for these evil people to be tripped up in their own evil, for them to be caught up in the tangle of their own lies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seeing it unfold makes my heart swell in gratitude.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Happy Thanksgiving, Firepups!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also give thanks daily for the Ladies of the Lake and for you all seated here with me, lakeside, around the warmth of this fire.  This special place, and all of you, will be in my heart tomorrow when we say grace.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mrs K8, you’re scaring me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-392082"><em>Mrs. K8 @<br />
                79              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Coverage of Karmageddon on the eve of Thanksgiving is perfect.</p>
<p>I know I’m grateful for it.  Our household has been praying every night for these evil people to be tripped up in their own evil, for them to be caught up in the tangle of their own lies.</p>
<p>Seeing it unfold makes my heart swell in gratitude.</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving, Firepups!</p>
<p>I also give thanks daily for the Ladies of the Lake and for you all seated here with me, lakeside, around the warmth of this fire.  This special place, and all of you, will be in my heart tomorrow when we say grace.</p>
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<p>Mrs K8, you’re scaring me.</p>
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		<title>By: cleter</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-391993&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;john in california @&lt;br /&gt;
                25              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since 2000, lieberman has had one ambition - executive power, prez or v-prez - taking on a mccain staffer puts him closer to the ‘bipartisan’ ticket republicans will need to get elected in ‘08. He has bush’s blessing. He and mccain are mutual admiration society, and if he loses he will still be a senator -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If McCain gets the nomination–something I’m not sure about–I don’t know exactly who his running mate would be, but it’s NOT going to be the Jewish guy from the Northeast who has already proven to bring no value whatsoever to the ticket. His running mate is going to be some sort of sop to the frothing base. A Southerner of some kind. Haley Barbour, perhaps.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-391993"><em>john in california @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Since 2000, lieberman has had one ambition &#8211; executive power, prez or v-prez &#8211; taking on a mccain staffer puts him closer to the ‘bipartisan’ ticket republicans will need to get elected in ‘08. He has bush’s blessing. He and mccain are mutual admiration society, and if he loses he will still be a senator -</p>
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<p>If McCain gets the nomination–something I’m not sure about–I don’t know exactly who his running mate would be, but it’s NOT going to be the Jewish guy from the Northeast who has already proven to bring no value whatsoever to the ticket. His running mate is going to be some sort of sop to the frothing base. A Southerner of some kind. Haley Barbour, perhaps.</p>
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