Comments on: When Corporate Hacks Attack http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:13:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: itradedsosa http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-387196 itradedsosa Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:48:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-387196 <p>I’m a former newspaper reporter and editor, and no one is more disgusted with what this “profession” has turned into than me.</p> <p>Yes, it’s utterly infuriating to watch and read today’s media and its RW pandering and corporate-driven spin.</p> <p>However, the thing to remember, always, is that despite all that, Democrats prevailed at the polls in the last two presidential elections and in the recent midterm, which the GOP couldn’t figure out how to steal. I don’t want to get into that aspect here…that’s for another discussion.</p> <p>The point is, no matter how much we bemoan the fact that American voters seem uninformed and uninterested, they apparently get the fact that the media is selling BS for its own self-serving reasons.</p> <p>To me, the real story is the media’s utter forfeiture of credibility. They can write anti-Pelosi stories until the cows come home, but the thing to remember is, they’re talking to themselves. The people get it. They’re not swayed by propaganda. The polls scream it.</p> <p>That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t always point out the media’s misdeeds. It just means we should keep it all in perspective. Americans are seeing the charades and kabuki that go on every night on cable news for exactly what they are. For that matter, does anyone really think Brian Williams or Katie Couric have a shred of credibility?</p> I’m a former newspaper reporter and editor, and no one is more disgusted with what this “profession” has turned into than me.

Yes, it’s utterly infuriating to watch and read today’s media and its RW pandering and corporate-driven spin.

However, the thing to remember, always, is that despite all that, Democrats prevailed at the polls in the last two presidential elections and in the recent midterm, which the GOP couldn’t figure out how to steal. I don’t want to get into that aspect here…that’s for another discussion.

The point is, no matter how much we bemoan the fact that American voters seem uninformed and uninterested, they apparently get the fact that the media is selling BS for its own self-serving reasons.

To me, the real story is the media’s utter forfeiture of credibility. They can write anti-Pelosi stories until the cows come home, but the thing to remember is, they’re talking to themselves. The people get it. They’re not swayed by propaganda. The polls scream it.

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t always point out the media’s misdeeds. It just means we should keep it all in perspective. Americans are seeing the charades and kabuki that go on every night on cable news for exactly what they are. For that matter, does anyone really think Brian Williams or Katie Couric have a shred of credibility?

]]> By: The Dawg http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-387147 The Dawg Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:07:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-387147 <p>Unfortunately, at my office we have to watch CNN all day long. They ran negative stories about Pelosi two or three days in a row throughout the day. There was the speaker of the house ‘battle,’ which most Americans really don’t give two shits about. Then there was the (alleged) spat between Jane Harman and Pelosi. Again, other than Beltway insiders, most people don’t care about these things. But someone who’s sort of glancing at the news, and uses CNN as their sole information source, would assume that the Dems already are in meltdown before they even start their first term in the majority.</p> <p>In the meantime, Trent Lott’s resurgence got some play, but it was largely themed as a comeback. Not sure how they played Boehner’s election as a house leader.</p> <p>My guess is Rove and a couple of GOP strategists call and plant the story and the knuckleheads go with it.</p> Unfortunately, at my office we have to watch CNN all day long. They ran negative stories about Pelosi two or three days in a row throughout the day. There was the speaker of the house ‘battle,’ which most Americans really don’t give two shits about. Then there was the (alleged) spat between Jane Harman and Pelosi. Again, other than Beltway insiders, most people don’t care about these things. But someone who’s sort of glancing at the news, and uses CNN as their sole information source, would assume that the Dems already are in meltdown before they even start their first term in the majority.

In the meantime, Trent Lott’s resurgence got some play, but it was largely themed as a comeback. Not sure how they played Boehner’s election as a house leader.

My guess is Rove and a couple of GOP strategists call and plant the story and the knuckleheads go with it.

]]> By: JABbering Stooge :: Playing Catchup: The “Librul” Media strikes again! :: November :: 2006 http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-387143 JABbering Stooge :: Playing Catchup: The “Librul” Media strikes again! :: November :: 2006 Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:47:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-387143 <p>[…] And finally, there’s been the media reaction to the elections last Tuesday and the alleged in-fighting over House leadership positions. Frankly, I don’t think I can add much to it beyond what has already been said in other places. […]</p> […] And finally, there’s been the media reaction to the elections last Tuesday and the alleged in-fighting over House leadership positions. Frankly, I don’t think I can add much to it beyond what has already been said in other places. […]

]]> By: Alex http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-387082 Alex Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:33:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-387082 <p>From Counterpunch.org’s <b>“Rev. Ted Haggard and the Eclipse of Evangelical Fury By DAVID ROSEN”</b>…<br /> <i>“Finally, we have the example of William Bennett, the self-serving, self-righteous hypocrite who turned “virtue” into a dirty word. This devout Catholic, former drug czar under Bush 1st and outspoken critic of drinking, gay marriage and wife swapping, was one of Bill Clinton’s most unrelenting detractors during his impeachment hearings. However, as reported in The Washington Monthly and other sources, over the last decade <b>Bennett made dozens of trips to casinos in Atlantic City and Las Vegas where, as a “preferred customer,” his total losses topped $8 million. He is also reported to have maintained a clandestine liaison with a buff Las Vegas dominatrix, Mistress Lee, his “beautiful domme muse mistress.”</b> In his best seller, The Book of Virtues, Bennett wrote: “We should know that too much of anything, even a good thing, may prove to be our undoing… [We] need … to set definite boundaries on our appetites.” In the face of such self-serving hypocrisy, one should never forget Mae West’s memorable words: “Too much of a good thing can be wonderful.” (While an on-screen election commentator, no one mentioned Bennett’s past sins.)”</i></p> From Counterpunch.org’s “Rev. Ted Haggard and the Eclipse of Evangelical Fury By DAVID ROSEN”…
“Finally, we have the example of William Bennett, the self-serving, self-righteous hypocrite who turned “virtue” into a dirty word. This devout Catholic, former drug czar under Bush 1st and outspoken critic of drinking, gay marriage and wife swapping, was one of Bill Clinton’s most unrelenting detractors during his impeachment hearings. However, as reported in The Washington Monthly and other sources, over the last decade Bennett made dozens of trips to casinos in Atlantic City and Las Vegas where, as a “preferred customer,” his total losses topped $8 million. He is also reported to have maintained a clandestine liaison with a buff Las Vegas dominatrix, Mistress Lee, his “beautiful domme muse mistress.” In his best seller, The Book of Virtues, Bennett wrote: “We should know that too much of anything, even a good thing, may prove to be our undoing… [We] need … to set definite boundaries on our appetites.” In the face of such self-serving hypocrisy, one should never forget Mae West’s memorable words: “Too much of a good thing can be wonderful.” (While an on-screen election commentator, no one mentioned Bennett’s past sins.)”

]]> By: cando http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386954 cando Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:07:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386954 <p>Taylor Marsh, This commentary should be a letter to the editor all over the nation. The only thing you left out was the president’s recent appearance with Rush the drug addict and pedophile. Just goes to show how important Rush is and how little we bloggers know! THANK YOU!</p> Taylor Marsh, This commentary should be a letter to the editor all over the nation. The only thing you left out was the president’s recent appearance with Rush the drug addict and pedophile. Just goes to show how important Rush is and how little we bloggers know! THANK YOU!

]]> By: 14justice http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386894 14justice Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:05:21 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386894 <p>The Decline and Fall of the American Empire…</p> <blockquote><p>You can get caught with your fly open and diddling a teenage page and elicit sympathy, while a drug hoarding radio host gets a pass for using his housekeeper as a pusher. That same host can then get caught with sex drugs in a bogus bottle at an airport, coming back from an all male weekend in one of the child sex capitals of the world, but his radio show doesn’t miss a beat. Meanwhile, the former (we assume) foot fetishist Dick Morris is still Sean Hannity’s favorite hack, pontificating out his pie hole about all things anti-Hillary. Oliver Iran-contra North has his own TV show, with former felon G. Gordon Liddy holding court on radio. A compulsive gambler is not only kept on radio, but given a spot on CNN, while telling the world about morals. Newt Gingrich, the disgraced speaker of the House and multiple marriage man, is still the go-to guy for Hannity on Fox. A man who reportedly married his third cousin (then divorced her), one of 2 (or is it 3?) marriages, just announced his presidential bid; the other GOP bidder a self-proclaimed philanderer, as well. But God help you if you’re a woman against a war… </p></blockquote> <p>Effect the Democratic Agenda and render the MSM irrelevant.</p> The Decline and Fall of the American Empire…

You can get caught with your fly open and diddling a teenage page and elicit sympathy, while a drug hoarding radio host gets a pass for using his housekeeper as a pusher. That same host can then get caught with sex drugs in a bogus bottle at an airport, coming back from an all male weekend in one of the child sex capitals of the world, but his radio show doesn’t miss a beat. Meanwhile, the former (we assume) foot fetishist Dick Morris is still Sean Hannity’s favorite hack, pontificating out his pie hole about all things anti-Hillary. Oliver Iran-contra North has his own TV show, with former felon G. Gordon Liddy holding court on radio. A compulsive gambler is not only kept on radio, but given a spot on CNN, while telling the world about morals. Newt Gingrich, the disgraced speaker of the House and multiple marriage man, is still the go-to guy for Hannity on Fox. A man who reportedly married his third cousin (then divorced her), one of 2 (or is it 3?) marriages, just announced his presidential bid; the other GOP bidder a self-proclaimed philanderer, as well. But God help you if you’re a woman against a war…

Effect the Democratic Agenda and render the MSM irrelevant.

]]> By: MayDaze http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386860 MayDaze Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:29:44 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386860 <p><a href="#comment-386834"><em>montag @ 240 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-386830"><em>MayDaze @ 236</em></a></p> <blockquote><p> Like it or not, Bush was elected by the majority of US residents–he is who the public <i>chose</i> to represent them. He, therefore, speaks for the US and that majority. Incoherently and stupidly, but, nevertheless, speaks for them.</p></blockquote> <p>Except that he <a href="http://www.bushwatch.com/gorebush.htm">wasn’t elected</a>. He was selected by the Supreme Court….</p> <p>Moreover, I’m not excusing the majority in 2004, either. I think the majority of the country’s lost its mind, y’know.</p> <p>Fact is fact. I don’t dispute it. But, I was upbraided for saying the obvious: maybe OK residents invite criticism based on who they elect to office. Does that change because a majority in the country want a bozo like Bush? No. The country at large has invited criticism by the rest of the world for keeping Bush in office when we had the chance to send him back to his photo-op ranch….</p> <p>How does one change the other? Doesn’t, really.</p></blockquote> <p>I was trying to show that it’s unfair to generalize about all people in a given area because of the votes of some, even a majority, in that area. Guess I failed to make the point.</p> montag @ 240

MayDaze @ 236

Like it or not, Bush was elected by the majority of US residents–he is who the public chose to represent them. He, therefore, speaks for the US and that majority. Incoherently and stupidly, but, nevertheless, speaks for them.

Except that he wasn’t elected. He was selected by the Supreme Court….

Moreover, I’m not excusing the majority in 2004, either. I think the majority of the country’s lost its mind, y’know.

Fact is fact. I don’t dispute it. But, I was upbraided for saying the obvious: maybe OK residents invite criticism based on who they elect to office. Does that change because a majority in the country want a bozo like Bush? No. The country at large has invited criticism by the rest of the world for keeping Bush in office when we had the chance to send him back to his photo-op ranch….

How does one change the other? Doesn’t, really.

I was trying to show that it’s unfair to generalize about all people in a given area because of the votes of some, even a majority, in that area. Guess I failed to make the point.

]]> By: kirk murphy http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386850 kirk murphy Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:17:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386850 <p><a href="#comment-386842"><em>Patrick 4/4 @ 247</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Goss-smacked?</p> <p><a href="#comment-386839"><em>kirk murphy @ 245</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>porter spew!</p> <p><a href="#comment-386838"><em>jeffreyw @ 244</em></a></p> <blockquote><blockquote>And the reason 2004 doesn’t count?</blockquote> <p>2004 was a leap year.</p></blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>it was electric…</p> Patrick 4/4 @ 247

Goss-smacked?

kirk murphy @ 245

porter spew!

jeffreyw @ 244

And the reason 2004 doesn’t count?

2004 was a leap year.

it was electric…

]]> By: SusanD http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386846 SusanD Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:14:50 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386846 <blockquote><p>And the reason 2004 doesn’t count?</p></blockquote> <p>Diebold</p> <p>New thread</p>

And the reason 2004 doesn’t count?

Diebold

New thread

]]> By: montag http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386844 montag Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:14:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/#comment-386844 <p><a href="#comment-386836"><em>MayDaze @ 242</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-386834"><em>montag @ 240</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-386830"><em>MayDaze @ 236</em></a></p> <blockquote><p> Like it or not, Bush was elected by the majority of US residents–he is who the public <i>chose</i> to represent them. He, therefore, speaks for the US and that majority. Incoherently and stupidly, but, nevertheless, speaks for them.</p></blockquote> <p>Except that he <a href="http://www.bushwatch.com/gorebush.htm">wasn’t elected</a>. He was selected by the Supreme Court….</p></blockquote> <p>And the reason 2004 doesn’t count?</p></blockquote> <p>See edited comment above.</p> MayDaze @ 242

montag @ 240

MayDaze @ 236

Like it or not, Bush was elected by the majority of US residents–he is who the public chose to represent them. He, therefore, speaks for the US and that majority. Incoherently and stupidly, but, nevertheless, speaks for them.

Except that he wasn’t elected. He was selected by the Supreme Court….

And the reason 2004 doesn’t count?

See edited comment above.

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