
You can get caught with your fly open and diddling a teenage page and elicit sympathy, while a drug hoarding radio host gets a pass for using his housekeeper as a pusher. That same host can then get caught with sex drugs in a bogus bottle at an airport, coming back from an all male weekend in one of the child sex capitals of the world, but his radio show doesn't miss a beat. Meanwhile, the former (we assume) foot fetishist Dick Morris is still Sean Hannity's favorite hack, pontificating out his pie hole about all things anti-Hillary. Oliver Iran-contra North has his own TV show, with former felon G. Gordon Liddy holding court on radio. A compulsive gambler is not only kept on radio, but given a spot on CNN, while telling the world about morals. Newt Gingrich, the disgraced speaker of the House and multiple marriage man, is still the go-to guy for Hannity on Fox. A man who reportedly married his third cousin (then divorced her), one of 2 (or is it 3?) marriages, just announced his presidential bid; the other GOP bidder a self-proclaimed philanderer, as well. But God help you if you're a woman against a war with a champion you want to promote to leadership; a person who helped raise the war debate to a campaign issue that carried your party to power, but loses that race. Let the corporate clucking begin.
Make no mistake about it, Murtha falling short of majority leader was a loss for Pelosi. So what? She stood by the man who brought the Iraq war into the debate and changed the subject from "stay the course" to "change course and redeploy." Steny Hoyer was gracious in his overwhelming win, as was speaker-elect Pelosi, making it clear that Murtha's power lives on to fight the fight in his subcommittee, where he holds the defense purse strings for the war. Pass the president the Tumms.
Photo op. Press conference. It's done. Next item.
But no-no-no. Cue the hack attack.
"Speaker Pelosi Tempts Disaster.": Nancy Pelosi has managed to severely scar her leadership even before taking up the gavel as the new speaker of the House.
Her Own Worst Enemy – Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi lost big on the Steny Hoyer-Jack Murtha race, is the headline from Howard Fineman. But he doesn't stop there, describing the majority leader contest as "the fiasco known as the Hoyer-Murtha Race."
Then there is Timothy Noah's Dump Pelosi? Let's put the new House speaker on probation.
The ever obtuse TNR spews that Murtha's loss is a "real embarassment (sic) for Nancy Pelosi. … How can Pelosi recover."
Digby, Glenn Greenwald, Think Progress, The Nation, have the antidote for this drivel (so does Sirota).
Oh, and by the way, so does Tom DeLay.
But it was renegade DeLay who had a surprise. "I'm going to shock you," said he. "I think the real Person of the Year ought to be Nancy Pelosi, the new speaker of the House. She worked for years putting a strategy together, building a huge coalition. She held the Democrats together in the House like I have never seen before. She is going to change America!"
Spoken like a very good sport from one mortal enemy about another.
Movers, shakers gather to help Time select person of the year (h/t)
Tom Delay not only appreciating the power, prestige and political capabilities of speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi, but nominating her for TIME magazine's person of the year? I'm caught between nausea and acknowledging a nod from the man who built the most powerful House machines in GOP history. I'll leave it to mull.
A president takes us into a war, first giving the rationale that we were going to be hit with WMD, which then went from "gathering threat" and "mushroom cloud" to "we know where they are" and "smoking gun," to "reconstituting its nuclear weapons" and "weapons programs," which was bad enough, to end up at … “weapons of mass destruction-related program activities.” All this, but it's the Democrats who are being constantly chastised by the likes of Sean Hannity and the other chickenhawks for wanting investigations into how we got into this war, the war profiteering that happened on Bush's watch, all the way to the incompetence of Donald Rumsfeld and his wholesale refusal to submit to Goldwater-Nichols.
But let Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi back the one man responsible for raising the dialogue on the war to a campaign issue, which took us to victory, and she is pilloried by the corporate press, as well as every chattering class political pundit in the pack, when he loses that bid.
Bush had capital to spend after the 2004 election that was won by a razor thin margin, but when Speaker-elect Pelosi rides to victory in a WIPE OUT her capital is spent with one leadership battle. I get it.
I smell something rotten and it's the mass of collected hubris the clucking pundits are sitting upon, which they now feel the need to release like the wind escaping from Karl Rove's bubble. Who died and elected these people to anything? It certainly wasn't the American people.
One time at bat, you're done, madame speaker-elect. Consider yourself warned and marginalized. You are "tempting disaster," a "real embarassment (sic)," immediately put "on probation, and your "own worst enemy." Yes, God forbid you stand up for something you believe in and lose ONE battle.
Politics ain't beanbag, goes the old saying. I guess we can be glad that the corporate hacks at CNN, MSNBC, NEWSWEEK, The New York Times, the Washington Post, as well as TNR, Slate, and all the other political assassins hunting for Nancy Pelosi aren't in a real position of leadership. A position which requires you to stand up and take a position, even if it's unpopular and sometimes — perish the thought — ends up in a loss.
There is something I keep close at hand, especially for times like these. Eleanor Roosevelt got it right.
Because Eleanor wasn’t afraid to speak her mind and take action, she had enemies. Some people criticized her opinions, while others made fun of her big teeth and unfashionable clothes. “Every woman in public life needs to develop skin as tough as rhinoceros hide,” was Eleanor’s response. - An Inspiring Life
Good advice for any woman (or man, for that matter), but particularly for speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi who has many more battles ahead.
Cue the clucking, phase two.
UPDATE: Speaker-elect Pelosi has just put up a blog post on Huffington Post. It's entitled: Bringing the War to an End is my Highest Priority as Speaker.
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I saw the Fineman thing this morning regarding our new Speaker. I’m starting to get all pissed off again.
Go Taylor!!!
Nancy will show them that politics is, indeed, a woman’s
game. Women know how to get things done without
involving the ego. Nancy will just let the idiot msm and repugs calm down and then get on with the business of government. It is not necessary to come out foaming at
the mouth. (freudian closet slip?)
You betcha, nj progressive! I’ve got Speaker Pelosi’s back.
mod elicit sympathy
Tucker Carlson is blowing smoke again about Speaker Pelosi. I’d like to spank him. This woman (Pelosi) knows how to play politics. And she doesn’t forget. She’ll do the job and kick a little ass along the way.
Hot Tub Tom DeLay said that?
…feather’s touch to self > ‘thud’
;>)
Mary McCurnin @ 5
I agree wholeheartedly look at what David Sirota says about this nonsense http://davidsirota.com/index.p…..i-win-win/
I’ve heard it explained to me on TV, over and over since the election, that the minority party in the House is basically powerless to do anything.
Funny… I don’t remember hearing about that too much over the last six years. Seems like one of these reporters might have been just as quick to mention that when the Republicans said stuff like “they have no ideas” in every interview.
Personally, I hope the Dems turn it into more solidification of the women’s vote. This is classic “if a powerful woman acts the same as a man” crap.
Taylor,
I wish we could ignore these idiots, but alas we cannot. One of my favorite thoughts (I never speak it) to put a person down is: “You must not have anything better to do.” An appropriate statement to describe Not-So-Fineman, Noah, et al.
Expat @ 10 – Thanks for adding the Sirota link, which was terrific. Forgot to include it in the post, but it is important to add.
Rick Klein of the Boston Glob is another one of them. I was so pissed off reading it this morning. It’s here if anyone wants to see it.
Prob is that none of the posts written about this sham reporting are what I feel I can spotlight and send to him as they are all sounding as pissed as I am. It would be great if we had just one that left out the snark, the acid, the feelings we had about this nonsense so that we could make the point in a cogent but forceful way so that they might start to get it.
Silly me, I keep thinking we have trained journalists working for the media. No, they are just stenos.
OT Part One: I first saw this at Huffpo but then went to the DOD site itself. It is a list of Donald Rumsfeld’s accomplishments as Secretary of Defense over the last 6 years. By and large, I agree with them but I thought a few of them needed some tweaking and a little explanation:
Claim 1:
Liberated and then threw into chaos with governments that can’t or don’t govern and security forces that don’t provide security. We couldn’t have done it without you, Rummy. A grateful nation gives you its thanks.
Claim 2:
That’s 311,000 Iraqi security forces and we have all seen how
invisible andunsuccessful they have been. I mean nowadays 80 gunmen couldn’t drive through the Baghdad traffic in pickup trucks to a government ministry, kidnap a 100 people in broad daylight, then drive back through the same Baghdad traffic past who knows how many checkpoints, and disappear, right? And what I would like to know is how come, despite all this organizing, training, and equipping of the Iraqi army, it still lacks stand alone command and control, logistics, heavy weapons, discipline, and any esprit de corps.Claim 3:
Rumsfeld takes credit for Iraqi elections, including this one: March 16, 2006 – Permanent Iraqi Government seated.
However, the last ministries weren’t filled and the permanent government formed until June 7, 2006: 175 days (nearly 6 months) after the December 15, 2005 elections for such a government, all this while the country was falling deeper into chaos and civil war.
Claim 4:
So I want to hear no more whinging about this torture crap. See, it was all worth it. Rummy’s PR says so. OK, I know that you are going to quibble that most of these were picked up by mistake or were simple footsoldiers whose intelligence value was nil. But there were probably a few who knew something although what they knew has been by now out of date for years. Torture loosened their lips and we would not have learned otherwise about al Qaeda’s connections to the Martians or whatever the hell we wanted them to say if we would just stop doing those nasty things to them.
Claim 5:
Which no doubt explains why the National Guard is on the point of collapse and why so much of their equipment is in Iraq, at least the part that hasn’t been shot up or fallen to pieces
Claim 6:
“Shifted thousands of troops from Institutional Army ‘tail’ to Operational Army ‘tooth’”
In other words, the way that troop numbers in Iraq are being sustained is by shifting less trained soldiers who keep the Army running into combat roles and outsourcing their previous jobs to KBR/Halliburton.
Claim 7:
“Converted Trident ballistic missile submarines to vessels that can carry Special Forces and launch UAVs”
A related idea was to buy vintage Rolls-Royces to deliver coal. This is still in planning.
http://defenselink.mil/home/fe…..index.html
I do not care about gender. I care about ideas.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 8
It’s going to be so much fun watching The Nancy Pelosi Show, or: Madam Speaker! over the next several years.
hahahahahaha
How is it any sort of victory for conservatives that the LESS CONSERVATIVE of two Democrats won?
Check out Hoyer’s voting record vs. Murtha’s. He’s WAY more liberal than Murtha.
Taylor, nor here nor there you Rock.
Taylor!
Great post – thanks for taking on the corporate hacks.
There may be a typo in the first line: “illicit” in place of “elicit”. Given the context, either seems to make some sort of sense….
[”diddling a teenage page and illicit sympathy”].
If anyone could figure out a way to diddle illicit sympathy, the Rethugs could.
They’ve screwed everything else in sight.
Rumsfeld’s accomplishments Part Two:
Claim 8:
“Created expeditionary strike groups with U.S. Marine Corps optimized for unconventional warfare”
Hello, Anbar!
Claim 9:
Missile Defense – Limited operating capability implemented
Emplaced 11 ground-based interceptors in Alaska and 2 in California to address long-range threats (ICBMs with range of ~10,000 miles)
Since 2001, 22 hit-to-kill intercept tests have destroyed their targets
Out of how many tests? And how many of these tests reflected real world conditions, i.e. they weren’t cooked or fixed in advance? Hint: none. So that would make the operating capability, let me see, zero.
Claim 10:
Hurricane Katrina/Rita and other humanitarian missions
OK the less said about this the better. Rumsfeld hated humanitarian whatever. That said, the regular military did a good job once they were deployed but Bush and Rumsfeld were extremely late and I mean days and days in ordering them in. In the Asian tsunami and the Pakistani earthquake, they again did a good job. Also listed in this section the evacuation of 15,000 Americans from Lebanon. This is a little like setting fire to the house and then claiming credit for “saving” the family. Maybe if Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice had not been so busy cheerleading Israel’s massively disproportionate bombing of Lebanon and had been a little bit more concerned about these Americans, not to mention Lebanese civilians, these evacuations would not have been necessary.
Claim 11:
“Reorganized Department Leadership
Created an Undersecretary for Intelligence”
Can you say Cambone? You know that indispensable link that led from the civilian Pentagon leadership to General Miller in Guantanamo and from there to Abu Ghraib.
Defense’s attempt to completely take over US intelligence which it already dominated doesn’t get mentioned either. Don’t know why.
Claim 12:
National Security Personnel System (NSPS) – About 10,000 civilian employees in a system that allows for greater flexibility in hiring, promotion, and assignment
This used to be called a spoils system
Claim 13:
“Cold War arrangements overseas being updated to reflect new threats and circumstances
Thousands of troops and families being moved from Germany, Japan and South Korea”
You know, places where troops and families might actually want to be. Now we can have familes in Texas and South Carolina and troops in Iraq and Central Asia. This is called progress. Along with this is the following:
“Quality of Life – Longer tours at home bases to provide less disruption to family life”
This should hearten all those soldiers and their families who are looking at or already in their third tour in Iraq. That your tours overseas in combat situations are increasing and your turnaround times are decreasing are just an illusion. You are getting sleepy, very, very sleepy. . .
Claim 14:
Military Amputee Training Center
Rumsfeld takes credit for this but I just find it chilling. Blowing off appropriations for head trauma and dumping veterans into an underfunded VA also don’t get mentioned.
But all in all a helluva job, Rummy.
Taylor,
An awesome post!
I am a male and for some reason I am not worried about Nancy Pelosi getting things accomplished during her tenure.
The “Good Old Boy” network is going to be shocked by how she handles them in getting the House moving again.
Person of the Year!
From the same folks who brought us blog of the year! (no link, not sorry) Seems like it may be a rather backhanded compliment.
She may well be a disaster, but past performance would point the other direction. The attacks are expected, but I think the scope and speed of the pushback is something new under the sun. The blogs are a major part of that and will be harder and harder to dismiss as white noise from the fringe.
Posts like this and the others you link to are in the vanguard of this new assault on the fantasy land dreamed up by the Heathers in the media, and when we reinforce your successes with e-mail barrages and spotlight strikes we shall be rewarded with the glory of the sack and the richness of the plunder.
Just remember, Firedogs, first you loot, then you burn.
Man oh man did that poll get freeped while I was away. *G*
Thanks, Apple Canyon. Push back is right, jeffreyw.
Don’t forget to vote in the Pelosi poll:
http://www.capitalnews.org/
I like that play by play!
THAT’S Entertainment.
where is Borat when you need him? he would be great as a newscaster. I expect bullshit from my newsie!
from a DKos diary.
I voted
Did Pelosi hurt herself backing Murtha…
Yes 20%
No 80%
3996 votes tallied.
Thanks for the site Taylor.
punaise @ 28
“I put a spell on you”
Credence Clearwater Revival
A photo of Rudy’s first wife, second and third wives would be a great visual aid
The bullshit emanating from “the media” is gagging maggots across america. “Can Pelosi lead?” “Will dems replace her”.
Who gives theses cretins their fuckin crayons? Sure it’s a slow news day- but ANYONE could make up a better story than THIS!
An who the fuck is gonna read it? Only political junkies- normal people thumb right through it on the way to the sports page.
Frankly, I am already upset about how mean Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats are going to attack the poor defenseless Republicans. The minority party has no rights and Speaker Pelosi will attack them.
Poor Bush too.
I can’t take it, the meaness, the bullying. The Democrats haven’t taken power yet and they are planning to attack.
The horror, the horror.
-GSD
Taylor,
The inside the beltway crowd of bathwater drinking hacks were not, unfortunately, voted out of town. Most of the pundits pontificating are folks who’ve never run for office, never run a business, and yet sit on the sidelines throwing stones at folks who actually strap it on and get in the game.
The nonsense spewed about the Pelosi/Murtha/Hoyer battle is useless hot air. Let’s applaud Ms. Pelosi for demonstrating that you can have intra-party disagreements and still act with a measure of humanity and decency.
Gawddamnitall, this crap p*sses me off.
We wouldn’t be having this kind of dialogue if Pelosi was a man.
But the voters in my state voted to do away with affirmative action. Gah. As if with a stroke of their voting pens there is no more discrimination against women, let alone minorities.
Whatever…I think of an African proverb whenever these bigoted talking heads spin on about Pelosi’s “failure”:
The daughters of lions are lions, too.
Can the goopers still lose after their brilliance in putting Lott back into leadership- or does the sheer genius of the move establish an intellectual and moral highground that Pelosi and the dems can only HOPE to emulate?
Hugh @ 16/22 – good job.
Other OT – I wonder if – now that such an option exist – anyone is going to subpoena those Bolton intercepts?
Let us also realize that the MSM and Karl Rove and his willing dupes were unable to create their own reality this election.
Despite all the kings horses and all the kings men.
Much of this inside game stuff won’t resonate.
These asshats are raging against the dying of their own overrated influence.
-GSD
LJ. S’up.
Apple Canyon 2 @ 29
When I voted (twice) this morning it was:
56 yes
44 no
total votes 1013
Mary4 — yeah, that. What’s in those intercepts?
Do the contents explain why Bush stubbornly, futilely supports that ugly walrus?
Larry @ 34 – You are absolutely right when you say these guys are not even in the game. Pelosi deserves a lot of credit for standing by Murtha, while sending a message to Hoyer and every other Democrat that we will be pushing back against Bush’s escalation.
It ain’t sinkin in yet—goopers LOST–they lost the house- they lost the senate- they lost the governor’s races- they only hold the White House and their fuckin president has a fuckin 31% approval rating. They’re totally USELESS- HOPELESS- fuckups.
Third cousins are not a problem in marriages – that’s someone where the common ancestors are third-great-grandparents: not closely related at all. (Marriages between second cousins, where the common ancestors are great-great-grandparents, are also legal.)
Now if he’d married a first cousin, with or without a remove or two, that’s worth noticing.
I like the way you put that.
I remember blather about how the Democrats would throw Speaker elect Peolosi overboard and they wouldn’t elect her to the top spot.
Wrong again.
The Lott/McConnell duet cements them as a regional party stuck in the quicksand of the past.
Trent better repaint the lawn jockey in his yard pronto.
-GSD
Goopers raging against the dyin of the light? I like that. Go not peacefully into that good night goopers RAGE RAGE against the dyin of the light.
This Pelosi business has me livid. However, I calm myself in the knowledge the new Speaker will take care of what needs doing. And Speaker Pelosi has a long, very long memory.
Bustednuckles @ 44
Asshats are dying amidst their own raging flatulence.
rwcole @ 32
It’s all hype.
“Is the world going to blow up next week?” Tune in at 7 with Paula Zahn to find out…
Nancy Pelosi Speakers for me!
I like the idea that no Democrat should go on Fox News. When they do, they legitimize the venue. Beyond that, I’d like to hear Democrats start saying things like “that’s not true” or “that’s a media artifact” when they are asked to comment on bullshit.
Pelosi’s somewhere enjoyin a glass of good wine with good companionship- while the gooper misfits are drainin boilermakers in a posh Georgetown bar– cursin , fightin, and makin general nuisances of themselves…
Losin ain’t so bad goopers- it doesn’t mean that yer a bad person.
I can hardly wait for the sparks to fly when Tester(sp) and Webb go on the talking heads this weekend. Should be major fun.
punaise @ 28
Once Bill Clinton left office, the Republicans needed a new devil. Hillary would become the new demon if she ran for President. But in the meantime, Nancy Pelosi has become, and will become even more so, the object of demonization for the Republicans, the rightwing press/blogosphere, and the unthinking media. The right/republicans cannot engage in rational discourse without first demonizing the other side. That is what they did to Clinton.
There is one difference this time. Progressive blogs. And we have to criticize and attack the laziness, stupidity and lack of professionalism of the media every day. No let up.
I think this is a pretty good rundown of what we can expect from the misogynistic wing of the right for at least the next two years.
If Dems said “that’s a media artifact” on teevee- most americans would assume that they’re drug addled university professors (sorry to say).
1.336 dayz and the killin’ jest goez on and on and..
Citizen Taylor Marsh and the Firepup Patriots:
RIGHT ON…RIGHT FUCKIN’ ON!!!
We are livin’ out Aldous Huxley and George Orwell’s nightmares. There is not a drop of self respect or intellectual honesty in the corporate media…the oligarcy has dropped the Kabuki masks, their dalliance with democracy is over.
It is clear that the crime families have decided to escalate the war and play a game of chicken with the federal budget and war spendin’, forcing the Democrats to cut funding while troops are in the field. Even if they fail miseably, the worst case scenario for them is Clucterfuck’s impeachment and he’ll resign before that happens leaving our politics and our economy in complete shambles and at the mercy of the corporate power clusters..and they win that one too!!
At the bottom of all this is the failure of anyone with a national microphone to call the question…get our kids home and stop givin’ our paychecks to Halliburton and Brown and Root.
The saving grace in all of this is that the “disorganized” Democrats are gunna hafta get organized around their elected leadership or they’ll end up countin’ votes in the re-education camps…even the corporatist wannabe’s like Schumer and Mrs. Clinton have gotta understand that the big boys will never let ‘em into the club. This is reality TV at it’s most absurd…
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!
Another OT
Your end of the week gas and oil prices
Average price for regular gasoline 11/16/06 in 50 states and DC
$2.80 plus 1 state : Hawaii
$2.70 plus 0 states
$2.60 plus 0 states
$2.50 plus 4 states : Alaska, Nevada, Oregon, Washington
$2.40 plus 1 state
$2.30 plus 6 states
$2.20 plus 20 states
$2.10 plus 16 states
$2.00 plus 3 states : Missouri, New Jersey, South Carolina
Average national price for regular gasoline: $2.233, up $.003 from yesterday
Most recent low: $2.196 on November 7, 2006
Highest average price: Hawaii $2.866
Lowest average price: New Jersey $2.058
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp
Crude Oil:
Nymex Crude Future $55.81, down $.29 from yesterday
Dated Brent Spot $56.50, up $.20
WTI Cushing Spot $55.81, down $.45
Gas prices continue a slow rise from their election day low. In oil, prices have fallen through their floor. Games are being played here. Crude oil inventories are being held on to. Since storage costs money, the hope is that prices later this winter will be substantially higher in order to justify this strategy. (The January NYMEX futures contract is ~$59 compare that to the December figure ~$56 quoted above.) On the one hand, this keeps near term inventories artificially high but it also creates a distortion in the stream. This is partially offset by oil delivered for immediate use but the overall effect is the marked depression in prices we are seeing. The buyers aren’t buying. There are three main reasons why this situation can not persist. 1) Oil buyers can’t hold on to their inventories forever; 2) Downstream oil derived products are still being used; and 3) Winter is still coming.
If I were the Demos who crossed swords with Pelosi, I wouldn’t be all that comfortable. As for Steny… hummm. Time will tell.
rwcole @ 56
I wonder about something more direct and populist:
“You’ve been paid a fortune every year to lie to us. Your rich owners are happy – the rest of us got screwed. Quit lying, coward.”
You tell ‘em, Taylor!
Dover Bitch @ 55
What blows my mind is how women, any woman, can support the right wing.
The “smart” comedy of Dennis Miller says that the reason she won’t be a good Speaker is because Nancy Pelosi is a woman.
Hoo, haw. What a brilliant wordsmith he is. He’ll be able to take that wit and charm to Monday Night Football someday.
-GSD
Oklahoma kiddo @ 62
Didn’t you hear? They’ve got a big tent.
Where is Hillary?
1,336 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
PS Citizen Marsh:
YOU ROCK!!! If I wasn’t so old I’d say I was in love again!
KEEP PASSIN’ US THE AMMUNITION TAYLOR!!
Some investigations have already been called for. When the drip, drip, drip of all the slime the Repuglicans have been up to starts coming to the light of day, even the talking heads will not be able to ignore it.
THAT is when the howling is going to start.
THAT is when I am going to start thoroughly enjoying the ensuing meltdown.
THAT is when the finger pointing and ass covering is going to get real interesting.
and THAT, my friends, is bank.
So what do you think the odds are that the Trad. Media will be talking about the Goopers re-electing Boener and Blunt, 2 of the most corrupt guys in the house so that they might be able to protect corruption against those horrid dems who might try to clean up their crap?
I thought so.
Hugh — thanks as always for the oil/gasoline summary. One thing that seems odd: you say that suppliers are holding on to [crude? or refined?] inventories, but “buyers aren’t buying.” But demand hasn’t fallen further, so supply must be coming from somewhere. And i thought OPEC was trying (unsuccessfully) to decrease production to maintain price levels. I’m missing something?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 62
Didja see Ron Christie on Matthews—-Chris even slapped him for the third grade name calling tactic–”Democrat Congress”.
Straight out of the old Gingrich book.
-GSD
Dover B — too funny. Big tent for their big egos and a freight train of testosterone.
Only self-hating women can support the right-wing, like self-hating minorities and gays. They must honestly believe they are not worthy of the same consideration as white men. Ugh. I can’t even fathom the idea.
scarecrow @ 54
I could not agree more. We are the memory and often the investigators that the media should have and should be. They are, after all, the professionals. Maybe someday they’ll start acting like them.
Blitzer is ranting about the batch of “Coulter Cookies” that the Supreme Court received.
I wonder if they were made with a little “Malkin Magic”?
-GSD
GSD @ 63
“Finally, a President who gets it!”
- Former comedian Dennis Miller, at the first Clinton Inaugural.
.
Thanks, Hugh
I was thinking about unloading this but now I think I’ll keep it ; )
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hl?s=PRNEX
punaise @ 28
Never forget that “Mort” is French for “death.” As in, death of journalism.
Try to visualize what will be on the media six months from now. What will the tone look like? What kind of important questions will be asked? Who will the guests be. Visualize next May. What do you see?
Hiya, Pach. Lock and load, NorskeFlamethrower.
What I don’t get is that everybody knows the Democrats fight intramurally about everything; it’s the Goops who goosestep in tight formation. Isn’t it kind of a relief to have actual politicians fighting about political things?
Silver lining: Bush, the GOP and the MSM have all taken a turn reminding us that we won a battle, not the war.
OT Earlier today, *xyz was wondering what “trash” would be thrown out on Friday afternoon. It appears to be “hints” about Rove leaving:
Rove may be leaving in “weeks,” not “months”
GSD @ 70
Missed it. What do you think would hurt Miller more? Taking away his World Almanac or his Enzyte?
Jame’s Baker’s been negiotiating with the terrrristsss.
Bad James Baker.
-GSD
I’m just imagining how Tucker might have turned out if he had been raised by Nancy Pelosi. LOL
Babs Bush and Laura Bush. Part of the big tent.
scarecrow @ 69
What OPEC says and what it does or even what it can do are very different things. So far, it’s been mostly talk.
What’s being held is crude oil. This is keeping those inventories up but should deplete downstream inventories like gasoline. The buyers are the ones who are holding the crude they have to sell later. They aren’t buying as much and this is depressing prices.
EvilDrPuma @ 76
Voldemort: flight of death
Did everyone sign Howard Dean’s Birthday Card?
The Tony Soprano of Iraq, Iyad Allawi, says things in Iraq are mucho fucked-upo.
-GSD
hey Taylor, you’re getting to be a regular in these parts…lucky us
GSD @ 88
now there’s a big surprise! Who would have ever thought it?
Hee hee:
Do you think it harms the Democrats that Nancy Pelosi backed John Murtha for majority leader?
Yes
17%
No
83%
Total Votes: 5197
84 year old Ted Stevens plans on running again!
ET, time to get to work!
Ron Christie. What a shit. On Hardball.
Supplies in Iraq have reached a critically low level.
RevDeb @ 92
Put him on the “bridge to nowhere”.
scarecrow @ 80
that’s 2. How many left to toss in the trash?
Sounds like Daddy is rolling up his sleeves and getting to work.
Stevens 2008.
It’s an Alaskan dance party!
Shake your tooobz.
-GSD
egregious @ 94
Would these supplies include include potential dead America soldiers?
GSD @ 97
put him in the pneumatic tube to nowhere.
RevDeb @ 96
Will Deadeye Dick be the hatrick?
-GSD
RevDeb @ 92
Is he trying to top Strom Thurmond’s record for Most Senile Member of the Legislative Branch?
Before Nancy Pelosi is criticized, may I ask “WHERE IS HASTERT?”
Steve Clemons: All the King’s horses…
…And all the King’s men,
Couldn’t put Iraq together again.
Kevin Drum:
I’m off to a MA blogger’s post election victory party. Time to meet some new faces to go with the BMG names
I saw Noah Knows Nuthin’ on teevee just a bit ago– he’s a decidedly enormous hemorrhoid.
GSD @ 100
My guess is that our VP develops health issues if/when the WH needs “one last push” to save Bush from forced resignation. The debate over Iraq is the proxy for where that one stands.
Sharpton’s burning down the house on Harball. Go Al!
While the GOP this week wrestled with its new status as minority party, leading lights Trent Lott and Mitt Romney showed the Republicans’ attitude towards minorities remains unchanged.
For the background, see:
“Lott, Romney Revive Republican Race Card.”
jeffreyw @ 103
Leggo my egg. oh.
This community is inspirational.God each and every one of you.Your country needs you now more than ever.The invertebrates in the msm will sell their own children on their masters orders.
punaise @ 89 – hey, it’s always good to visit FDL.
Gawd I can’t stand f’head Ron Christie!!!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 113
ditto, and the Rev did rip him a new one.
Al Sharpton is certainly quick on his feet.
dayum.
The Cristy/Sharpton shouting match is not getting anywhere close to the hard questions. Where is the logic to show that any proposal — to increase troops, to decrease them, to redeploy them — from any party, has any reasonable prospect of achieving what is claimed for it. And why is there any reason to believe that the current administration could be trusted to develop/recognize/implement whatever plan meets this criterion. As far as I’m concerned, the only useful discussion is how do we get rid of this regime.
I’m thinking all of our pundits need to take a raw egg into their appearances as a visual aid.
“This is Iraq before Bush. *splat* This is Iraq now. What is it you expect the Democrats to do with it now?”
Produce another egg. “Bush wants to add more troops. *splat* Maybe we should stop doing what Bush wants to do.”
jeffreyw @ 91
Vote twice…. once in IE and then in firefox…
Christian elitism at its finest.
A losing Republican candidate sends a concession e-mail to her Hindu opponent urging said Hindu to convert to Jeebus.
What a pack of losers.
-GSD
Ok kiddo, all supplies.
scarecrow @ 69
It must be that refineries are getting rid of their backlog. I know that if you take a look at the last few GDP releases our imports of oil were dropping but we had a HUGE backup at the refineries that was pushing prices up before the huge drop off in price. That’s what was happening in the second quarter. After we publish GDP this month I’ll tell you what’s happening in the third quarter that is publishable. I do Foreign Transactions at the BEA but the stuff I just talked about has already been published by the BEA and Census.
jeffreyw @ 116
Eggsactly.
scarecrow @ 121
scrambled
If there were any solution to the Clusterfuck in Iraq- someone would have thought of it by now. Nope- it’s gonna be blood an guts for decades..The question is whether we’re there to enjoy it.
Liked the black gooper ex Clusterfuck assistant’s responses on Hardball today.
“What if the Iraqi govt. asks us to leave- should we leave”
Gooper:–”Depends”.
What? On how nicely they ask us?
Goopers have trouble representing the Clusterfuck administration- they can’t give any common sense answers to questions about the future- cause they never know how fuckin stupid their fuckin hero might be by then.
Nice job Taylor, it’s pretty clear we only won a battle. There is a lot more fighting to be done. And I love that Eleanor Roosevelt quote.
GO BLUE, BEAT THE BUCKS!
Bring the troops home now!!! Save American soldier’s lives. This “war” has been lost from it’s inception. I want my people home.
Eleanor was a Michigan fan?
Here’s one hack who finally gets it – 12 years late! (Surprised?)
(h/t Atrios)
BooMan has an interesting post on Gates and Iran Contra circa 1991.
Of course media neocons hate Pelosi #1
http://tinyurl.com/v9znv
Of course media neocons hate Pelosi # 2
http://tinyurl.com/slfp7
Skeletor sings the blues.
Chertoff says U.S. threatened by international law
By David Morgan
Reuters
Friday, November 17, 2006; 6:31 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A top Bush administration official on Friday said the European Union, the United Nations and other international entities increasingly are using international law to challenge U.S. powers to reject treaties and protect itself from attack.
“International law is being used as a rhetorical weapon against us,” Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, a former federal appellate judge, said in a speech to the Federalist Society, a conservative policy group.
Chertoff cited members of the European Parliament in particular as harboring an “increasingly activist, left-wing and even elitist philosophy of law” at odds with American practices and interests.
snip
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01395.html
did you know that you can’t crush an egg by squeezing it in the palm of your hand? at least, punaise jr. tried to convince me of that. we did a test over the kitchen sink. the egg broke.
WASHINGTON — The Senate’s next Republican leader issued a veiled threat to block action on legislation if Democrats refuse to allow confirmation votes on President Bush’s troubled judicial nominations.
Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who will become minority leader Jan. 4, told the conservative Federalist Society Friday not to feel bad about the Senate election results because Republicans will hold 49 seats in a body that requires 60 votes to end a filibuster and bring legislation or presidential nominees to a final vote.
Outgoing Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tenn., left, watches as incoming Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Ky., right, shakes hands with Defense Secretary-designate Robert Gates, center, following their meeting on Capitol Hill, Friday in Washington, Nov. 17, 2006. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais) (Pablo Martinez Monsivais – AP)
Dr. Milton Friedman who won the 1976 Nobel Prize for economics poses for a photo in a 1977 file photo. (AP)
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katymine @ 117
Feels like deja vu all over again.
:-)
That’s funny Chertoff complaining that some europeans have the audacity to point out that Clusterfuck is breakin the law–the nerve of them fuckers.
Eleanor was a strong Democrat, which means she was clearly Blue.
The yolk was on you.
I need an Olbermann fix.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 137
15 minutes and KO on MST!
Hi Taylor…..
Of course media neocons hate Pelosi #3
http://tinyurl.com/yxohr3
Inhofe: Don’t Worry About Global Warming Because ‘God’s Still Up There’
In an interview with Fox and Friends this morning, outgoing Chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works James Inhofe (R-OK) argued that the current wave of unprecedented warming is due to “natural changes.” “God’s still up there,” Inhofe said, and to the extent there is warming going on, it is “due to the sun.” He added, “George Soros, the Hollywood elitists, the far left environmentalists on the committee that I chair — all of them want us to believe the science is settled and it’s not.”
rwcole @
132
Three words for you Mitch McConell:
Nuclear-Fucking-Option
Bustednuckles @ 130
Gee, I hope that’s all true. Imagine: other countries using international law to oppose US policies and practices.
jeffreyw @ 136
…now that albumention it…
Maybe ya have ta hold the egg in a certain way in order ta not break it- ya know the way goopers have ta hold their heads a certain way in order ta NOT think.
nuclear fucking option—-Love it.
I took the poll – 85% No, 15% yes. Heh
Heya katymine, looking forward to Olbermann tonight. Much needed sanity added to this Pelosi debate will be refreshing. Also, he’ll likely be talking about Tomkat’s wedding this weekend, which is always hilarious.
I’m signing off for today, but I’ll see you all on Monday.
From the CBS reporter/story linked above:
When ya think about it- the fillibuster is an old, quaint, and useless practice in the 21st century–right goopers?
punaise @ 143
You’re just trying to shirr up trouble.
punaise @
143
Now, that was white of you , Punaise.
OT -
Guess the US pundits can blame “losing” Afghanistan on the Dems, too.
[If the Dems point out NATO “lost” Afghanistan, I expect to hear Tweety attack their disloyalty to France….]
UN chief: Nato cannot defeat Taliban by force
Official says alliance failing in Afghanistan as Blair admits Iraq is a ‘disaster’
Declan Walsh in Kabul and Richard Norton-Taylor
Saturday November 18, 2006
The Guardian
Nato “cannot win” the fight against the Taliban alone and will have to train Afghan forces to do the job, the UN’s top official in the country warned yesterday.
“At the moment Nato has a very optimistic assessment and they think they can win the war,” warned Tom Koenigs, the German diplomat heading the UN mission in Afghanistan. “They say development can follow military action. But there is no quick fix.”
rwcole 140 — even his own party thinks Inhofe’s an idiot.
How that guy sits upright without falling over, I’ll never know; he seems too stupid to control his bodily functions. But maybe that’s where God enters into the picture, saving Inhofe’s family the embarrassment of his stumbling physical idiocy.
Of course global warming isn’t settled science — but we can’t study it if they kill off the funding or they let payola recipients substitute propaganda for facts. Of course the sun is the primary source of global warming; it’s the earth’s inability to disperse solar heat that’s a problem.
What a fecking moron. What idiots elected this dolt?
Reporters today had to choose between two stories:
1) Goopers decide to rekindle ties with Ku Klux Klan by putting Trent back into leadership
or
2) Dems have not one but two candidates for majority leader and one beats the other.
Guess which they chose.
BTW, Sara Robinson has an interesting take on this over at Orcinus.
Rayne- Okies I guess.
Bustednuckles @
130
Chertoff is feeling his oats because of Executive Order: Cover the pResident’s Ass
blah, blah, blah …
Rayne @ 153
Not me, I’m a yellow dog democrat. But he is from my state. It’s still pretty damn red here.
let me tell you about it, poach aisled
rwcole — no offense to my okie pals…but jeepers, your ‘winger neighbors are lucky not to drown in the rain.
Now we’re cookin’:
Do you think it harms the Democrats that Nancy Pelosi backed John Murtha for majority leader?
Yes
15%
No
85%
Total Votes: 6310
Ok, catch ya after KO….. have fun!
Anybody else find Joan Walsh of Salon.com ineffectual on television?
Rayne @ 160
Umm, isn’t that what domesticated turkeys do? :)
john in sacramento
at 4:55,
Thats the first thing that I thought of too.
Do all of these torturin’ bastards have ranches in Paraguay?
Bustednuckles @ 165
I would guess they’re just subletting from the Bush family until they need to get settled in….
Rayne @ 160
hmm – wonder what would happen if one o them radio preacher types told ‘em all to run out in a heavy downpour ’cause the lightning was the first sign of rapture….
and asked them all to turn their faces to the sky….
GSD,
“Pay attention, Satveer.”
That has to become a new catch phrase for sanctimony in politics. It’s perfect…
“Pay attention, Satveer.”
Nuff said.
One last note, speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi has put up a post on Huffington Post:
Bringing the War to an End is my Highest Priority as Speaker
Okies get too much abuse- Texans used ta brag that they could send the bottom 10 percent of Texans ta Oklahoma and raise the average IQ of both states- and that’s not nice talk…
In fact- there may be states with dumber congresscritters than Oklahoma..South Carolina doesn’t get any genius awards- and look who comes ta DC from Kansas!!!
punaise @ 159
“It can’t be ova, he cried! It’s not ova!”
John Dean will be on KO tonight.
Also Keith will cover Dodd trying to roll back the MCA.
Now he mentions Princess Bride!
Jeez — on Hardball, now Salon’s Joan ___ explains all of the “reality-based” folks in the WH, including Rice, Hadley, Card, who convinced the President to accept the idea of the Iraq Study Group — and they had to overcome the influence of Cheney and Rumsfeld. Gosh, it’s so assuring to know there are rational people in the WH, and they’re winning!
So . . . who from the last two people named has not been thrown under the bus? Did Cheney’s heart just miss a beat?
I’m out. have a great weekend.
poach aisled ?
Groan- oughta be a law.
kirk murphy @ 167
Well, it would give the few survivors something to be thankful for at church the next Sunday.
jeffreyw @ 171
“See, men!”
egregious @ 172
I hope they discuss how much the loser who sent Keith the white powder fits the profile of a right-wing authoritarian submissive.
Salon’s Joan whoever seems ta be on the elect Condi for president committee- fuckin stupid.
Okies?
“Crimson and clove, uh; ova and ova”
Can anyone think of ANYTHING Condi’s done in six fuckin years to earn her fuckin salary?
kiddo–sorry- SOONERS.
rwcole @ 170
Might be that they’re inviting it by electing people like Inhofe….
Rayne @ 163
Rayne — I thought it interesting that the only political “news” on Hardball tonight was that last exchange with Walsh — who’s job tonight was to tell us that Condi had now become disenchanted with the war !!!! — and so had convinced the President to accept the idea of the ISG. It’s amazing the number of people who have concluded that the war was a dumb idea. Guess we should keep listening to them.
punaise @
181
Ov,um, what? Hey, that song’s not all it’s cracked up to be.
Mommybrain @ 186
That sounds suspiciously like a Humpty Dumpty bossanOVA joke to me….
The yolk was on you.
…now that albumention it…
You’re just trying to shirr up trouble.
Now, that was white of you , Punaise.
let me tell you about it, poach aisled
“It can’t be ova, he cried! It’s not ova!”
“See, men!”
oh, roe is me!
rwcole 182 — Joan Walsh implied that Condi may have called in Poppy and the consigliere to rope in Rumsfeld and straighten up the White House.
If that were true, it might be the one thing she’s done that earned her pay. Not happy that another unelected cabal is running the country, having deposed the Cheney junta, but it’s a damn sight better than leaving Cheney and Rummy to continue to run amok.
Read Joan Didion’s piece on Cheney from the recent New York Review of Books. Cheney has chronically had “other priorities” his entire life, priorities that are at odds with his country’s priorities. Poppy surely understood this all too well.
FUCK U.S. corporate media and their god damn bimbo so-called reporters, journalists, and pundits.
russert, mathews, broder, cohen, brooks, ingrahm, bennett, carville, halperin, et al ALL sycophantic disgusting bimbos. infotainers selling poison elixir meant to deceive. Pox on all of them
limbaugh, colter, hannity, malkin, pamela what’s her name, all worse than swine, less honest than criminals.
its past time to shove it up their collective asses (metaphorically) along with murdoch and disney and the rest of the corporate media titans selling lies and spin. These are evil sickening people that are doing untold harm to the nation, to humanity and no one should be putting up with their CRAP anymore.
.
I’ll take
for 1000, Alex.
What color was the rooster, where does he forage, and why did he crow?
Ding ding ding!
OK–So Inhoffe isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer- but he’s got them good ol downhome values…like he never gets drunk in front of the younguns.
“Might be that they’re inviting it by electing people like Inhofe….” This remark is uncalled for.
KO will have another Special Comment on Monday! : )
rwcole @ 192
What I really want to know, though, is: does he play the banjo and has he been in the movies….
Spew Alert!
montag @ 195
OK kiddo — not to worry, we have the same kind of folks here in MI.
Dick DeVos, heir of the Amway fortune, may have sealed his fate in a debate against the incumbent Dem. Gov. Jennifer Granholm over the issue of healthcare insurance.
When asked how he and citizens should handle the lack of healthcare for a sizeable portion of the population, he said they should get a job.
Mind you, this state has the second worst rate of unemployment in the country, and has been in the basement for nearly 4 years.
And DeVos own company does not provide healthcare insurance to all workers.
Lucky for him nobody every asked him about his position on global warming. Sheesh. He’d probably advise turning on the air conditioning.
Do you think it harms the Democrats that Nancy Pelosi backed John Murtha for majority leader?
Yes 14%
No 86%
Total Votes: 6869
Taylor, thank you for an excellent post. I have confidence in Nancy Pelosi and I think the American people do too.
For a discussion of oil and gas prices, I would also suggest the weekly analysis here.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/twip/twip.asp
Do you notice that Mitch McConnell soon to be in the minority immediately invoked the filibuster. When Democrats did this, they were just as immediately painted as “obstructionist”. But IOKIYAR.
I don’t buy the Condi angle on the Iraq Study Group. Frank Wolf a Republican representative from Virginia is the one who pushed it. Baker was in the neighborhood shopping for an opening. Et voila. Condi may not have opposed but I doubt she had much to do with the ISG.
scarecrow @ 185
maybe she got her talking points from….the salon.com cover story!:
Speaking for myself only. I have to say I have no respect for Condi Rice. For primarily two reasons. First her support for the Iraq war (she should have resigned in protest if she did not agree with this war). Secondly, she supports the right wing (GOP).
Like Rahm, Condi was a ballet dancer. just sayin’.
Condie has her priorities, ya know
http://www.denkfabrik-info.de/…..tanker.jpg
Rayne…
Thanks. Your nice.
Hugh @ 199
I think Walsh suggested that Condi was receptive to Wolf’s idea, not that she thought of it.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 193
Well, then, how do you explain it? The guy’s a raving asshole on just about every subject and he’s been elected–by Oklahomans–to national office for the last twenty years.
He’s a pea-brained crook and he keeps winning election. What explains that?
He’s a blight on the national discourse, and Oklahomans gave him to the nation. And keep on giving….
Look, it’s not like saying Oklahoma’s just like Idaho… only a lot like it.
punaise @ 104
Is that “Kevin Dumb”?
expat @ 207
Possibly. But, with a mindless comment like that on Harman (the Cheney-fearmongering appeaser), it’s time to beat him like a drum….
there’s no Harman asking.
montag — I recall that California elected Reagan twice; the US elected Nixon twice, Reagan twice and a Bush three times. There seems to be a Pogo principle involved that’s a bit larger than Oklahoma.
Kevin Lieberman?
scarecrow @ 210
Don’t forget Cawleeforneeya elected Ahhhnold again
How about we stipulate that Inhofe is an idiot and take solace in the fact that 45% of his constituents voted for the other guy?
punaise @ 209
Does the little drummer boy have a jones for Jane…?
scarecrow—nicely said.
And Californians voted to trash their state with Prop 13.
kirk murphy @ 216
and public services – especially education – have never recovered.
Just complaining about the media won’t accomplish much. We have to break up media conglomerates, re-install something like the fairness doctrine and take away licenses from overt propaganda networks like Fox News.
This is one of the main things that did us so much harm in the 90s. People believe what they see on TV.
kirk murphy @ 177
punaise @ 217
And there’s no sign of anything different, any time soon.
OK Kiddo -
Apologies for seeming to beat up on the Sooners. My goal was to mock the fundies’ credulity (a quality untethered to geography).
That was not the outcome, and I apologize.
there’s a special place in hell for Howard Jarvis
punaise @ 222
But he won’t mind, since it’s not taxpayer-funded.
I am glad our new Speaker of the House is a woman. Women are more opposed to the horrors of war than men. Women are also more socially conscientous. So those traits are most welcome in the new Speaker.
Via Atrios: Oversleep much?
He rubs the sleep out of his eyes, like Duke in today’s Doonesbury, and looks around.
kirk murphy…
You’re OK!
RBG @ 213
He comes up for reelection in 2008 and his approval numbers are subpar. Brad Henry could so take Inhofe out if he wanted to cut short his term as Governor.
scarecrow @ 210
That excuses them someone like Inhofe? And, J.C. Watts? And Coburn?
What I’m suggesting is that the OK Kiddo, in trying to defend the minority of OK, excuses the majority–exactly the case in those instances you mention above.
Any bets on whether or not OK re-elects Inhofe in 2008? And Coburn, too, when his turn comes (the guy who does crossword puzzles during committee hearings (!) ).
Like it or not, these bozos were elected by the majority of OK residents–they are who the public chose to represent them. They, therefore, speak for Oklahoma and that majority. Incoherently and stupidly, but, nevertheless, speak for them.
Peterr @ 220
My college-bound high school classmates (class of ‘77) graduated with writing skills vastly superior to those of most of the California (high-) schooled medical students and residents I’ve taught over the last decade.
rw…
You’re OK too!
class of ‘78 rulez, man
Meanwhile, back on the ranch . . .
Liddy Dole isn’t wasting any time. She’s already sent out a email fundraising pitch for 2008.
I won’t trouble you with the link to recommit to the GOP fundraising machine.
And what’s up with “overcome tremendous obstacles and accomplish innumerable achievements”? Sounds like someone’s intern just discovered a thesaurus. Rule one from the bad preacher’s almanac: never use one word when three words will do.
scarecrow #205,
What I found more interesting in the Salon piece was the role of David Abshire. When I first started studying the Iraq Study Group, his name just sort of popped out.
From his bio at the CSIS:
Both the CSP and the CSIS are sponsoring organizations for the Iraq Study Group. By the time things got to Condi, the ISG was more or less a done deal but that Abshire a Reagan Republican was a guiding force behind the ISG along with Frank Wolf and Jim Baker I think is the real story.
I’m sure these pundits are getting the “inside” story on the Pelosi “disaster” from Carville and other “reliable” Dem sources(DLC). I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t also getting “insider” info from Dem male House members and particularly staffers who would like nothing better than for Pelosi to go away.
Let’s expose the worms who are feeding the media this crap.
You know if she wore Versace and not Armani, this would all be a mute point. /snark
montag @ 228
Let’s put that last paragraph into a national perspective:
Like it or not, Bush was elected by the majority of US residents–he is who the public chose to represent them. He, therefore, speaks for the US and that majority. Incoherently and stupidly, but, nevertheless, speaks for them.
It’s a weird thing to generalize about state populations and what the heck they’re thinking. California just re-elected Schwarzeneger, which is something I still can’t believe. Everyone I know reviles him. And yet.
And no one has ever been as crazy as Bob Dornan and he was elected how many times? Granted, it was Orange County, which is conservative, but now in his place they have Loretta Sanchez, a progessive Latino woman. So far right OC went (in this case) from the ridiculous to the sublime…
So who knows?
Washington Week did its typical Establishment take on the Murtha/Hoyer contest. Pelosi’s leadership was called into question. OTOH the Republicans choosing Trent Lott was a masterstroke. You know it’s so important to have racists in high places. I only watch this show anymore to make rude comments about its participants.
Rob Zuber @ 218
Fox News will dry up and blow away when people stop watching and their advertising dollars dry up, and they’re trending DOWN by the way ; )
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/
And check out Tucker! LOL
Disclaimer: I don’t watch Fox News (or Tucker) ; )
MayDaze @ 236
Except that he wasn’t elected. He was selected by the Supreme Court….
Moreover, I’m not excusing the majority in 2004, either. I think the majority of the country’s lost its mind, y’know.
Fact is fact. I don’t dispute it. But, I was upbraided for saying the obvious: maybe OK residents invite criticism based on who they elect to office. Does that change because a majority in the country want a bozo like Bush? No. The country at large has invited criticism by the rest of the world for keeping Bush in office when we had the chance to send him back to his photo-op ranch….
How does one change the other? Doesn’t, really.
Hugh — thanks for the insight. I was focused on the “conversions” going on in the WH.
It doesn’t surprise me that certain groups were trying to get alternative views on Iraq into the WH. Hell, the whole planet has been trying to get alternative views into that WH. Even former Reaganites could see we were driving off a cliff. But I guess it took a connection with Baker to pull it off.
And I guess we now know who has to head the delegation that eventually goes to the President and says “Mr. President, we think for the good of the country, it’s time to go.” If the ISG and/or one last push recommendations go forward, and each gets 4-6 months, then we’re at least that far away from what needs to happen… unless events in Iraq continue to shorten everyone’s horizons.
montag @ 240
And the reason 2004 doesn’t count?
MayDaze @ 242
do I hear Ohio?
2004 was a leap year.
porter spew!
jeffreyw @ 244
jeffreyw @ 244
That explains it!
Goss-smacked?
kirk murphy @ 245
leap on up to the new thread
MayDaze @ 242
See edited comment above.
Diebold
New thread
Patrick 4/4 @ 247
it was electric…
montag @ 240
I was trying to show that it’s unfair to generalize about all people in a given area because of the votes of some, even a majority, in that area. Guess I failed to make the point.
The Decline and Fall of the American Empire…
Effect the Democratic Agenda and render the MSM irrelevant.
Taylor Marsh, This commentary should be a letter to the editor all over the nation. The only thing you left out was the president’s recent appearance with Rush the drug addict and pedophile. Just goes to show how important Rush is and how little we bloggers know! THANK YOU!
From Counterpunch.org’s “Rev. Ted Haggard and the Eclipse of Evangelical Fury By DAVID ROSEN”…
“Finally, we have the example of William Bennett, the self-serving, self-righteous hypocrite who turned “virtue” into a dirty word. This devout Catholic, former drug czar under Bush 1st and outspoken critic of drinking, gay marriage and wife swapping, was one of Bill Clinton’s most unrelenting detractors during his impeachment hearings. However, as reported in The Washington Monthly and other sources, over the last decade Bennett made dozens of trips to casinos in Atlantic City and Las Vegas where, as a “preferred customer,” his total losses topped $8 million. He is also reported to have maintained a clandestine liaison with a buff Las Vegas dominatrix, Mistress Lee, his “beautiful domme muse mistress.” In his best seller, The Book of Virtues, Bennett wrote: “We should know that too much of anything, even a good thing, may prove to be our undoing… [We] need … to set definite boundaries on our appetites.” In the face of such self-serving hypocrisy, one should never forget Mae West’s memorable words: “Too much of a good thing can be wonderful.” (While an on-screen election commentator, no one mentioned Bennett’s past sins.)”
Unfortunately, at my office we have to watch CNN all day long. They ran negative stories about Pelosi two or three days in a row throughout the day. There was the speaker of the house ‘battle,’ which most Americans really don’t give two shits about. Then there was the (alleged) spat between Jane Harman and Pelosi. Again, other than Beltway insiders, most people don’t care about these things. But someone who’s sort of glancing at the news, and uses CNN as their sole information source, would assume that the Dems already are in meltdown before they even start their first term in the majority.
In the meantime, Trent Lott’s resurgence got some play, but it was largely themed as a comeback. Not sure how they played Boehner’s election as a house leader.
My guess is Rove and a couple of GOP strategists call and plant the story and the knuckleheads go with it.
I’m a former newspaper reporter and editor, and no one is more disgusted with what this “profession” has turned into than me.
Yes, it’s utterly infuriating to watch and read today’s media and its RW pandering and corporate-driven spin.
However, the thing to remember, always, is that despite all that, Democrats prevailed at the polls in the last two presidential elections and in the recent midterm, which the GOP couldn’t figure out how to steal. I don’t want to get into that aspect here…that’s for another discussion.
The point is, no matter how much we bemoan the fact that American voters seem uninformed and uninterested, they apparently get the fact that the media is selling BS for its own self-serving reasons.
To me, the real story is the media’s utter forfeiture of credibility. They can write anti-Pelosi stories until the cows come home, but the thing to remember is, they’re talking to themselves. The people get it. They’re not swayed by propaganda. The polls scream it.
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t always point out the media’s misdeeds. It just means we should keep it all in perspective. Americans are seeing the charades and kabuki that go on every night on cable news for exactly what they are. For that matter, does anyone really think Brian Williams or Katie Couric have a shred of credibility?