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		<title>By: della Rovere</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/the-decider-decides-to-escalate/#comment-387028</link>
		<dc:creator>della Rovere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 05:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t worry. The Iraq Study Group also has such level-headed Dems as Leon Panetta, Lee Hamilton, Chuck Robb, Vernon Jordan. We know the DC Democratic elite won’t go down the road to escalation, don’t we? If its one thing we can count on its the wise old men of the Democratic Party.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t worry. The Iraq Study Group also has such level-headed Dems as Leon Panetta, Lee Hamilton, Chuck Robb, Vernon Jordan. We know the DC Democratic elite won’t go down the road to escalation, don’t we? If its one thing we can count on its the wise old men of the Democratic Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Blank Kludge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/the-decider-decides-to-escalate/#comment-386868</link>
		<dc:creator>Blank Kludge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think that was Nov. 7, 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
Just sayin’..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that was Nov. 7, 2006.<br />
Just sayin’..</p>
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		<title>By: billofwrites</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/the-decider-decides-to-escalate/#comment-386787</link>
		<dc:creator>billofwrites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 01:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“And may I assume that you will be signing up to get blown up by an IED for the greater glory of that eventual downfall? Or maybe you just don’t mind if other people die while you play political games.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;no, evildrpuma, i will not be signing up. and, no, i don’t mind if freely-choosing volunteer troops die while the totalfuckingidiot leaders they’ve agreed to follow — leaders freely elected by the people — play political games. as always, it’s the troops’ choice and it’s the people’s choice. the unspoken thing about this midterm election is the american people saying to the dems: “oh boo hoo hoo, oops, we messed up in 2000 and 2004. oh, please, dems, please save us from ourselves so we can blame YOU instead of ourselves. please clean up OUR mess for us, and oh, by the way, brace yourselves for our ingratitude and brace yourselves for taking the blame for losing iraq.” horsepuckey! i say, MAKE the people lead. make them acknowledge their compilicity and responsibility for this godawful mess and let the dems wait for that acknowledgement before we do a damn thing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“And may I assume that you will be signing up to get blown up by an IED for the greater glory of that eventual downfall? Or maybe you just don’t mind if other people die while you play political games.”</p>
<p>no, evildrpuma, i will not be signing up. and, no, i don’t mind if freely-choosing volunteer troops die while the totalfuckingidiot leaders they’ve agreed to follow — leaders freely elected by the people — play political games. as always, it’s the troops’ choice and it’s the people’s choice. the unspoken thing about this midterm election is the american people saying to the dems: “oh boo hoo hoo, oops, we messed up in 2000 and 2004. oh, please, dems, please save us from ourselves so we can blame YOU instead of ourselves. please clean up OUR mess for us, and oh, by the way, brace yourselves for our ingratitude and brace yourselves for taking the blame for losing iraq.” horsepuckey! i say, MAKE the people lead. make them acknowledge their compilicity and responsibility for this godawful mess and let the dems wait for that acknowledgement before we do a damn thing.</p>
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		<title>By: mrJJ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/the-decider-decides-to-escalate/#comment-386729</link>
		<dc:creator>mrJJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;WASHINGTON — A Senate Democrat who will chair its Judiciary Committee next year asked the Justice Department to release newly acknowledged documents setting U.S. policy on how suspects in the war on terrorism are detained and interrogated.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The American people deserve to have detailed and accurate information about the role of the Bush administration in developing the interrogation policies and practices that have engendered such deep criticism and concern at home and around the world,” Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Leahy demanded two documents whose existence the CIA recently acknowledged in response to a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“If President Bush and the Justice Department authorized the CIA to torture its prisoners, the public has a right to know,” said Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU attorney involved in the case.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The first document is a directive Bush signed giving the CIA authority to set up detention facilities outside the U.S. and outlining interrogation methods that may be used against detainees.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The second is a 2002 memo from the Justice Department’s office of Legal Counsel to the CIA General Counsel regarding interrogation methods that the spy agency may use against top al Qaida members.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Leahy asked Gonzales to produce any revisions and analyses of those and other memos. He also requested agency documents that interpret the scope of interrogation practices permitted and prohibited by the detainee Treatment Act or the Military Commissions Act.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A Justice Department spokesman had no immediate comment&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/17/AR2006111701446.html&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01446.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WASHINGTON — A Senate Democrat who will chair its Judiciary Committee next year asked the Justice Department to release newly acknowledged documents setting U.S. policy on how suspects in the war on terrorism are detained and interrogated.</p>
<p>“The American people deserve to have detailed and accurate information about the role of the Bush administration in developing the interrogation policies and practices that have engendered such deep criticism and concern at home and around the world,” Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.</p>
<p>Leahy demanded two documents whose existence the CIA recently acknowledged in response to a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union.</p>
<p>“If President Bush and the Justice Department authorized the CIA to torture its prisoners, the public has a right to know,” said Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU attorney involved in the case.</p>
<p>The first document is a directive Bush signed giving the CIA authority to set up detention facilities outside the U.S. and outlining interrogation methods that may be used against detainees.</p>
<p>The second is a 2002 memo from the Justice Department’s office of Legal Counsel to the CIA General Counsel regarding interrogation methods that the spy agency may use against top al Qaida members.</p>
<p>Leahy asked Gonzales to produce any revisions and analyses of those and other memos. He also requested agency documents that interpret the scope of interrogation practices permitted and prohibited by the detainee Treatment Act or the Military Commissions Act.</p>
<p>A Justice Department spokesman had no immediate comment</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/17/AR2006111701446.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..01446.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Horse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crazy Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As Jesus said, “it is easier to debate with a drunk man, than to go through the eye of a camel.”  BRING IT ON GEORGIE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-386566&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bellumregio @&lt;br /&gt;
                102              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rumours persist here (and I have heard them repeated at a very senior level in the UK, too) that Bush has actually resumed drinking; I throw this into the mix not to sensationalise, but because I have now heard the rumour repeated at a sufficiently high level that I believe we must face the possibility that it might be true.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush was huddled inside the White House eating beef and ice cream on election night with Rove, my friend Josh Bolten, and four other trusted aides who will stick with him to the end. He was not drinking on this occasion, I’m assured - but, more than ever, my depiction of an unstable man living out his final days in office inside his bunker seem no longer to be fanciful. Hemmed in by Democratic foes wherever he looks, determined to be remembered in history as an unwaveringly strong leader, and increasingly detached from reality: now that suddenly becomes a very frightening vision indeed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andrew Stephen&lt;br /&gt;
November 13, 2006&lt;br /&gt;
New Statesman&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Jesus said, “it is easier to debate with a drunk man, than to go through the eye of a camel.”  BRING IT ON GEORGIE</p>
<p><a href="#comment-386566"><em>bellumregio @<br />
                102              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>Rumours persist here (and I have heard them repeated at a very senior level in the UK, too) that Bush has actually resumed drinking; I throw this into the mix not to sensationalise, but because I have now heard the rumour repeated at a sufficiently high level that I believe we must face the possibility that it might be true.</em></p>
<p>Bush was huddled inside the White House eating beef and ice cream on election night with Rove, my friend Josh Bolten, and four other trusted aides who will stick with him to the end. He was not drinking on this occasion, I’m assured &#8211; but, more than ever, my depiction of an unstable man living out his final days in office inside his bunker seem no longer to be fanciful. Hemmed in by Democratic foes wherever he looks, determined to be remembered in history as an unwaveringly strong leader, and increasingly detached from reality: now that suddenly becomes a very frightening vision indeed.</p>
<p>Andrew Stephen<br />
November 13, 2006<br />
New Statesman</p>
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		<title>By: pluege</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/the-decider-decides-to-escalate/#comment-386625</link>
		<dc:creator>pluege</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As with all things bush, they’re once again politicizing the invasion. Bush’s “last push” in his lost cause vanity war is meant to force the newly elected democratic congress to cut off funding. And we all know what happens if they actually do that (i.e., do what the American people elected them to do – get US soldiers OUT of Iraq, NOT escalate). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a political win-win for the bushliar-criminal: if democrats deny funding the “last push”, republicans and US corporate media will be all too thrilled to wind up the howling beast to heights never seen; if democrats go along they betray the people that just elected them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Escalation is of course yet another republican disaster to be visited upon US soldiers, Iraqis, and US taxpayers, but that is of no concern to the bushliar-criminal, his criminal family, and the criminal cult of republicanism.&lt;br /&gt;
.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with all things bush, they’re once again politicizing the invasion. Bush’s “last push” in his lost cause vanity war is meant to force the newly elected democratic congress to cut off funding. And we all know what happens if they actually do that (i.e., do what the American people elected them to do – get US soldiers OUT of Iraq, NOT escalate). </p>
<p>It’s a political win-win for the bushliar-criminal: if democrats deny funding the “last push”, republicans and US corporate media will be all too thrilled to wind up the howling beast to heights never seen; if democrats go along they betray the people that just elected them. </p>
<p>Escalation is of course yet another republican disaster to be visited upon US soldiers, Iraqis, and US taxpayers, but that is of no concern to the bushliar-criminal, his criminal family, and the criminal cult of republicanism.<br />
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		<title>By: angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;twolf1– good.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Inhofe don’t believe in that global warming stoffe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Idiot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;btw, Kucinich making sense to a senseless Tucker.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Dennis can speak for me anytime when it comes to war and peace!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twolf1– good.  </p>
<p>Inhofe don’t believe in that global warming stoffe.</p>
<p>Idiot.</p>
<p>btw, Kucinich making sense to a senseless Tucker.</p>
<p>(Dennis can speak for me anytime when it comes to war and peace!)</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s a sad thing when getting it right in America insures that you will continue to be discounted in the future.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is tragic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s a sad thing when getting it right in America insures that you will continue to be discounted in the future.</p>
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<p>It is tragic.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Peterr,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, one of the problems with sanctions against Iran is that we have had them for years so we are not really asking anything new from ourselves but are asking others to give something up by enacting them.  For some reason, they are not eager to do this, especially given the track record of success which we have had with our own sanctions regime. Totally inexplicable.  The timing of Bush’s announcement too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peterr,</p>
<p>Of course, one of the problems with sanctions against Iran is that we have had them for years so we are not really asking anything new from ourselves but are asking others to give something up by enacting them.  For some reason, they are not eager to do this, especially given the track record of success which we have had with our own sanctions regime. Totally inexplicable.  The timing of Bush’s announcement too.</p>
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		<title>By: twolf1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/17/the-decider-decides-to-escalate/#comment-386587</link>
		<dc:creator>twolf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11  /17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/&quot;&gt;new thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11  /17/when-corporate-hacks-attack/">new thread</a></p>
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