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REDD!!
Uh.
Mah.
Gawd.
I hit the zero.
GO BLUE! Rest in peace Bo. You and Woody can enjoy The Game tomorrow together.
Christy!
Jane!
Ellison!
Klobuchar!
I can’t bring myself to click on the video to launch it.
Ugh.
Oh Redd, we need to merge Laura’s clip with the Tazer video.
About time Trex.
Oh, and Laura Ingramm,
heres a steaming cup of STFU. That was an outstandingly ignorant statement.I’d call it a stretch but Gumby would cry.
Busted — click through the link. You’ll be more annoyed.
I think the MSM bullsh*t barrage is aimed at keeping the dems on the defensive, and manipulating the narrative in order to steer away from ‘investigative issues’. Keep the dems and the netroots off guard so they don’t go on the offensive, and set the stage so that whatever action investigative or otherwise is taken is made to look reactionary.
OT, but what’s the story about Mike Tyson joining Heidi Fleiss’s (sp) brothel in Nevada to become the resident Stallion?
Isn’t it nice how CNN did Rahm the kindness of cropping him out of that image.
http://mediamatters.org/items/…..0611170001
Christy Hardin Smith @ 8
Oh yeah.
I saw this a couple of days ago.
Can we Impeach this guy now, Fer Chrissakes?
What’s it going to take? Stomping on babies heads on the Capitol steps in front of Fox News cameras?
These people live in a land of fiction and cartoons. Jonah Goldberg, March 2003:
Can anyone tell me the status of the Foley
investigation. They promised weeks, not months,
did they mean years, not months?
Jack
Texan Kay Granger defeated Steve Pearce of New Mexico for the vice chairmanship of the Conference. The vote was 124-63.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/200…..congress_1
Ha! Kay is my Rep and is pro choice (I think) ; )
So the bureaucrats at the CIA are taking advantage of Bush’s weakened post-election position to throw him under the bus?
It’s about time…
It’s probably more appropriate for the last thread, but today’s NYT features the Mackinac Center for Public Policy and the franchising of conservative think tanks.
It’s an interesting follow-up to our conversation yesterday about the Overton Window….which lends credence to cretins like Ingraham. On second thought, maybe it is appropriate for this thread.
Coz at 15 — yes, and Rep. Boehner (R-Perma-Tan) gets to remain as poster boy for the party in the House, along with Roy Blunt (R-K-Street). Lovely bunch.
Bustednuckles @ 12
Well, the chief legal architect of his detainee policy did say W could torture them.
RBG @ 16
I saw that article in my quick glance at Pravda this morning and thought WTF?
MayDaze at 16 — I think it is a combination of factors, actually. Not just the long-time CIA push-back, but a result of federal judges no longer tolerating the stall and divert tactics of the Bush Administration.
I don’t know about the average American liking 24 since it doesn’t seem to be listed in the top 20 shows, but the number one show last week was Desperate Housewives. Would that be a referendum on anything?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 18
It’s going to be funny if the Foley investigation turns up anything as far as a coverup on them ; )
HAHAHAHA Chip Reid on MSNBC portraying GOP leadership results as “vote for the status quo”…now that is some framing I can live with today.
Oh wait, it wasn’t babies, it was children. Ooops, my mistake, am I being too “combative?”
After six years, I’d almost forgotten how twisted and evil the lies of the neocon-controlled mainstream media could be when they were the opposition party. Unconstrained from the modest need of a controlling party to attach their rhetoric to the merest thread of reality, the radical right as opposition party is free to invent lies from whole cloth, inflate them with the power of the cable and broadcast networks, and set them soaring into the public consciousness.
Next up – Nancy Pelosi flies into her Congressional office on a broomstick. CNN question: “Has Pelosi stopped eating children?”
I Don’t Have Any More Political Capital, And I Intend To Spend It
Contributed by Debra Rosenberg
“President George W. Bush might have taken a “thumping” in the election last week, but that hasn’t exactly made him humble when it comes to presidential appointments. First he renominated a handful of controversial judicial nominees who couldn’t even get confirmed when the Senate was in GOP hands. Then he made a controversial appointment that doesn’t require congressional approval: Today, the administration named Dr. Eric Keroack deputy assistant secretary for population affairs at the Department of Health and Human Services. Though it’s not a high profile job, the post oversees the nation’s family planning program, making sure low-income women get access to birth control.
That might be an odd fit for Keroack. He is medical director of five Boston-area “crisis pregnancy centers” that use ultrasounds to convince women not to have abortions. The centers, called A Woman’s Concern, also emphasize abstinence and are participating in a campaign for the “Sanctity of Human Life Month.” Keroack is also on the medical advisory council of the Abstinence Clearinghouse. Not surprisingly, his appointment didn’t go over well with the family planning crowd. “The appointment of anti-birth control, anti-sex education advocate Dr. Eric Keroack to oversee the nation’s family planning program is striking proof that the Bush administration remains dramatically out of step with the nation’s priorities,” Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards emailed in a statement. According to a spokesperson at the office of population affairs, Keroack is due to start work on monday”
That is effin’ unbelievable. A new low in stupidity unlikely to be topped until the next time she’s on TV.
Why doesn’t she conclude that all of America likes gay men because “Will & Grace” was so popular?
Agh. Mackinaw Center. It’s in my backyard.
We’re consciously working on developing something that’s an anti-Mackinaw Center think tank.
So much of what’s gone wrong in Michigan — the state with the worst unemployment next to Mississippi, and we’re not done this year — is due to Republicans eating up sh*t from the Mackinaw Center.
Libertarian anti-government dorks and worse. I mean, really, Tom Tancredo is a product of their think tank. What’s that tell you?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 21
Well, it’s about time for that, too!
Good topic choice. Hope you feel better, Christy.
OT, but maybe not. Do you know the way to San Jose? Terror flights booked out of SJ. From Raw story.
http://www.rawstory.com/showou…..02154.html
MayDaze at 30 — I’m working on it. Mr. ReddHedd will be back home from a business trip soon, and I’m going to bed early tonight. Mercifully, The Peanut is feeling better…but that doesn’t help me when I’m feeling craptastic, now does it? *g*
After calming down just a small degree,
I will retract the call for impeachment.
Now I want anyone involved with this to go straight to war crimes trial.Crimes against humanity seem to have been committed.
I believe a certain Mr. Yoo,and certainly the A.G. (dirty Sanchez) Signed off on this.
LET LOOSE THE HOUNDS!!!
kist @ 22
Sunday night football?
Good point Kist@22. It is still unbelievable that these people will make up anything, pass it off as truth, and then base policy on it. In my opinion I stopped watching 24 because it was the same thing over and over each season. You know, like, “stay the course” on the same improbable storyline.
meanwhile, life imitates playstation.
.
.
We’re gettin closer an closer ta the part where Tricky Dick –I mean Clusterfuck–refuses to give up the tapes- I mean documents- to congress…
Only a couple of months left ta go. If ya have a job- quit it- this is gonna be worth watching.
Ugh, 24 was repugnant militaristic idolatry, Jack Bauer, the subtlety was painful, how about calling him Ace Spade.
But Sophist at 38 — it is Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh’s favorite show…oh…um…yeah, see your point. *g*
Igraham did say it was “as close as it gets in [her] mind”. At least she has the decency to limit the insanity to her warped mind.
orcatjf @ 40
“Laura Ingraham” and “decency” in the same sentence, with no negative modifiers. I call bull!
WOW!!
.
Why do I keep reading Laura Ingalls instead of, uh, that other thing?
Party of one – and it isn’t Lieberman
http://www.stamfordadvocate.co…..-headlines
CHS..Thanks for the ACLU link..it reminded me to renew my card.
We need to get some information out about the producers of these ‘news’ shows. Who chooses the bold text headlines, images, and scripted, air head dialogue, who selects and approves guests.
We don’t just need transparency in gov’t, we need media transparency too, that Fox memo story was a very object lesson. Lets pull back the curtain on who is putting this propagandist crap out using the MSM.
There’s a worthy project for the interim before the presidential elections, a media transparency push.
Ingraham is a bully. Hers are the words of a sadistic bully. If there is a Hell then she going there.
Dave Barry used to live blog episodes of 24,pretty funny stuff sometimes.
What is it with wingnuts and fiction? Ingraham’s not the first one to equate TV shows or some other brand of fiction as being the solution to real life problems and issues.
I thought humans were supposed to be able to sort out the diff between fantasy and reality by about age 10 or so.
Cozumel @ 44
Oh that is way cool!
Cozumel @ 44
All quite amusing and Orman is making his point that it’s a sham party, but what exactly is he trying to accomplish? Or did I just answer my own question?
The Netherlands about ta make it illegal ta cover yer face in public- take THAT burkaites.
Bay State Librul @
14
From CNN yesterday.
rwcole @ 51
so when W is in the dock at the Hague, sobbing into his hands, he’ll be committing yet another crime…
Sandra Day O’Conner bitchin that the entire Supreme Court received home baked cookies- each of which had enough rat poison in em ta kill the entire court…..
Wow- these people are BORN complainers.
Wonder if they were chocolate chip- probably baked by some well scrubbed gooper from the family values crowd.
Punaise- I think he should be given clemency for saving the world the treat of his ugly mug.
rw at 54 — do you have a link on that? There have been SO many threats attempted on judges — federal and state — since the reckless public statements after the Schiavo idiocy. Would like to see what O’Conner had to say about it.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 56
Here ya go ; )
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11…..nted=print
Cozumel at 57 — good lord — what a wacko! Thanks much for the link.
Hey Twisted, just saw that Schembechler died today.
Weird irony…
RIP
Redd– Linky Poo fer You
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11…..ref=slogin
Balrog @ 58
Sad day for the Michigan family. And for all of college football.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 18
Rep. Boehner was picked to replace Delay, back when the choice was do something different or go with the most Delay-like critter in Congress.
The skunk can’t change its stripes.
WTF? Poll sponsored by C-SPAN?
Capital News asks:
Do you think it harms the Democrats that Nancy Pelosi backed John Murtha for majority leader?
So far it’s 56/44 YES/NO. To arms!
C-SPAN contact page
From the Dept. of , That was quick:
Dem judiciary leader seeks torture documents
Brian Beutler
Published: Friday November 17, 2006
Print This Email This
In a letter addressed to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, soon to be chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee Patrick Leahy (D-VT) has requested the release of documents that outline the Bush Administration’s interrogation policies.
The documents, which have long been thought to exist by observers and critics of America’s national security policies, were confirmed to exist as the result of a still-pending Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by the ACLU.
snip
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._1117.html
Hey- it’s been a while since an on line poll got freeped eh?
LONDON, England (Reuters) — A British man said to have carried out the country’s first “Web rage” attack was jailed for 2-1/2 years on Friday for assaulting a man with whom he had exchanged insults over the Internet.
Paul Gibbons, 47, from south London, admitted he had attacked John Jones in December 2005 after months of exchanging abuse with him via an Internet chat room dedicated to discussing Islam.
London’s central criminal court heard that Gibbons had “taken exception” to Jones, 43, after Jones alleged that Gibbons had been “interfering with children.”
[snip]
Media reports said it was Britain’s first “web-rage” attack and Judge Richard Hawkins said the circumstances were “unusual.”
“This case highlights the dangers of Internet chat rooms, particularly with regard to giving personal details that will allow other users to discover home addresses,” said Detective Sergeant Jean-Marc Bazzoni of Essex Police.
[CHS ed.: Please don’t use entire articles, due to copyright considerations. Just report a portion of the article, and give a link back to the original, where possible. Thanks!]
Busted at 64 — I’m telling you guys, in the Senate, keep your eyes on Levin and Leahy. They are going to do some amazing oversight hearings. Both have been constrained for far too long on matters that desperately need oversight. After January, things will change. And I’m not talking nasty, vengeful spite like we saw from Dan Burton and his ilk during the Clinton years — I’m talking actual oversight on issues that ought to have been looked into all along, and for which there needs to be accountability. It’s their job, and it’s about damn time the Congress started doing it. Will be lovely to watch Leahy and Levin and many others show the rubber stamp brigade how it ought to be done.
rwcole @
60
Some freelancer used pastries instead of the Coulter approved creme brulee I see.
Notice the political winds start to shift and these lunatics come pouring forth.
-GSD
Christy @ 66,
Amen.
Redd- I’m sorry to hear that we won’t have say Ted Kennedy shooting watermelons in his backyard. We’ll miss the goopers when they’re gone.
jeffreyw @ 63
If you do it in firefox and then IE you get two votes!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 66
Christy, I’m a believer now!
why is Ingraham always on these “news” shows as some kind of knowledgeable intellect? What qualifications does she have as a purveyor of high-thought? Has she a doctorate of thinkology? She has a radio show, right? where low-information sycophants listen to her rants and raves? Heck, there’s this turtle I have here, forced to listen to my rants and raves, why aren’t I thus qualified to be on CNN?
What’s ‘24′? And who is Jack Bauer (sic?)? Is it like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
Will be lovely to watch Leahy and Levin and many others show the rubber stamp brigade how it ought to be done.
stay tuned for DiFi Inc. (DFNK, NYSE) discovering her spine….or not.
I approve this message. Done and done.
I’m killing my tab on the Wiki article on Laura Ingraham now. Just doesn’t go well with my lemon zinger tea.
Poor Joe Lieberman. He’s not even Chair of his own damn Potemkin Pity Party any more.
Check this out. Pure brilliance. I salute you, Dr. Orman!
OT — Don’t forget about Oaxaca. Photos at this link are moving.
Yet another example of the MSM’s irrelevancy; one of our immediate neighbors has an entire region under siege, in a near civil war over voting irregularities, and the MSM does not cover the story.
Where are those so-called Canadians who were whining about our political system this morning? Nothing from them on Oaxaca, either, eh?
CHS 66 — I’m still marvelling over that two-page letter from Levin that I got yesterday in response to my request for support on S. 3930 Torture Act.
He was P*SSED. Statesmanlike, but P*SSED.
punaise @ 75
If she should find it, I hope she does so in time to “prod” her hubby Blum – Vice Chair of the UC Regents – into firing a few uniformed torturers…
Remember back in the 40’s when FDR said that because Americans loved the Three Stooges he was going proscribe eye pokes and head slaps to all citizens.
-GSD
rwcole @ 68
Hey, you’re talking about my Congressman!
I think Laura’s a lawyer who got her start as a talking head during the good old impeachment days. She figured out a way ta keep the money rolling in. She’s no dumby—just evil.
kirk murphy @ 81
….and John Yoo, a disgrace to academia. he brings shame to the institution.
(apologies to academic freedom supporters everywhere. would you want Yoo representing your hometown university?)
In regards to the GOP’s election of House leadership:
“In some ways, it’s “meet the new bosses, same as the old bosses”.”
Heh. What a HOOT!! It’d be better to hear this kind of comment coming from journo “Mike” at MSNBC if I didn’t have to listen to Rita gargling questions at him while showing video of a chase scene.
Rita should have her vocal cords removed as a public service.
Clusterfuck has photo op reviewing Vietnamese troops- who do NOT shoot him.
Good gravy, another story falling under the “Fiction isn’t Reality/or is it” category…
Some right-wing apologist flapping his gums on MSNBC (thanks, Rita, for not telling us on wrap who the guy was — just like you didn’t with “Mike” who preceded him), saying that the erroneous facts were only a small part of the reason why we went into Iraq. This is in response to some developing story about a Moroccan intel officer saying that al Qaeda misled the U.S. into war in Iraq.
This is another “greymail” attempt; somebody’s trying to muddy the waters so that the average Joe doesn’t see the truth, that the administration had plans to go into Iraq from the earliest days of the adminstration in 2001.
Cheney, is that you? is Babs helping with your penmanship?
rwcole says:
November 17th, 2006 at 11:10 am *
Rita should have her vocal cords removed as a public service.
What is puzzling is that her bio doesn’t quite jive with how she is on air:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8755935/
HAPPY FRIDAY!! And you know what that means, FirePups!!
Fresh spin upstairs!!
I enjoyed this from Digby:
As Christy and Digby were saying in the last post, the media that we have now is the same media that has rolled over to have its tummy rubbed by the Bush Daily Disaster Squad every day for the last 6 years. So we can expect them to continue to suck up to Republicans, belittle Democrats, and investigate nothing.
GSD @ 68
Yes, that could happen. We’ve been treated to five years of “24″ and the “rules don’t matter” mentality, and now we’re going to see what effect that has on behavior now that the “rules do matter” folks are coming back into power.
We’ve already seen what it means in the ME, where the collective attitude towards killing sometimes manages only a shrug.
Poor Andy Card. Jeepers. Who’s paying him to spin for the Repugs now?
McCain, realizing that kisses ta Clusterfuck ain’t gettin him anywhere, announced today that Clusterfuck is breakin the law by refusing to report on global warming..
There are gonna be LOTS of goopers silently grinning as the dems take down Clusterfuck—they may dress up like dems and throw a few stones.
AmericaBlog:
Punaise—I’ve been feeling this way ever since the election- the small amusement before the storm….We need to establish a baseline of JAR rating for Clusterfuck. When it reaches 19– goopers will be begging dems to impeach the fucker.
welfare agency runs out of emergency housing, creates a winter of our discount tents
The hoo ha over Ingraham is entertaining, but not terribly important (yet).
Hey, did ya know Ann Coulter was being investigated for voter fraud? Yep. She couldn’t even vote this time for fear of violating the law again. Check it out at bradblog.com (they follow election fraud stuff closely).
Murtha was sort of set up, but he did serve us well by making the case on Iraq. I say leave him the heck alone and say hello to Steny “I’m with Nancy!” Hoyer.
As Chris “Got Habeas Corpus?” Dodd and Chuck “Dude, who stole my vote?” Schumer are already showing, the Dems have a lot more important issues to deal with right now, so let’s not get distracted for too long on lesser things.
We won! Woo hoo!
Rayne @ 80
Rayne, if my memory serves, my wife and I used part of your letter that you posted in the comments and faxed them to Sen. Smith (OR). It would be interesting to line up our response letters for comparison. I’m sure yours is better, Smith’s response was concern trollish without actually saying anything at all.
Rayne #89,
I one time went and tracked down all of the reasons for Bush invading Iraq with quotes.
The bare bones list is this:
1) WMD
2) Saddam Hussein was behind 911
3) Saddam was in cahoots with al Qaeda
4) The GWOT and the need to fight terrorism “over there”
5) Bring democracy to Iraq
6) Saddam was a BAD man
7) Violations of UN Resolutions and ceasefires
8) Oil
9) Basing rights
10) Israel
11) Avenge the assassination attempt against his father
Missing from the list is that Bush is an idiot and Cheney is a delusional paranoic.
MarkH @ 98
Woo hoo indeed! I’m getting me some a them “I’m with Nancy” buttons.
rwcole @ 97
Bush Iraq policy approval rating drops
rat bastahd — let me see if I can scan and OCR the letter, too much to try to retype into this medium. If I can scan/OCR, I can post to my blog for reading.
Last paragraph from the letter:
Bravo, Senator Levin.
Although I must admit I am fighting the urge to send him a snarky note; when I’d asked if he would respect the wishes of CT Democratic Party members by supporting their democratically elected primary winner, he said in effect that he needed to remain neutral because Liarman was a friend.
After yesterday’s bullsh*t performance by Liarman following and undermining Levin’s call for withdrawal, I want so much to send a handwritten note back that says, “How’s that friendship working out for you now?”
[sigh]
Went ta visit the new thread- but I don’t understand anything they’re talkin about. Guess I’ll hang here for a while an see if anyone else does the same.
crow- More good news comin in daily!!
Watchin Clusterfuck takin his little tumble through the twenties in JAR land is gonna be real special- an when he hits 19——-he gets a VERY special prize.
rwcole @ 84
So, she’s a lawyer who is a radio talk whore — as a lawyer, I respectfully disagree, she is a dumby. (She may be a dumby because she’s a lawyer.)
What is JAR?
Mary
JAR= Job Approval Rating
punaise @ 85
Punaise, I completely agree about Yoo (IIRC, he is named in the war crimes charges filed in Germany.
The only aspect I disagree about is that opposition to Yoo is alos opposition to academic freedom.
My thought experiement is: let’s say a bunch of paediatricians sponsored their local NAMBLA chapter, and also happened to be faculty at a UC med school.
The pederastic peds would be off the faculty before they could say “ah”.
Not because of their academic activities, but due to immoral behavior and heinous acts.
Schumer announces “No more Alitos”.
kirk murphy @
110
Thanks for the input. I concur. I guess I was being pre-emptively defensive to the academic freedom charge since it has been brought up before in this exact context.
Academic Freedom
Academic Freedom is not a consideration in HIRING a professor– This guy should never have been hired- once he’s hired- ya can’t can him for taking extremist positions within his subject matter- and I agree with that.
rwcole, I don’t Bush’s JAR ever hits the teens. Maybe the 20’s, but not the teens. His base wouldn’t desert him if he got caught foleyizing a young boy…he’s their savior, he can do no wrong, it’s always someone else’s fault.
rwcole — no sh*t? Did Schumer actually say that out loud, “No more Alitos”?
Jeepers. How are they going to rein in the Liarman??
I just had an inspiration. What if the Iraq Study Group has nothing to do with Iraq, but instead is charged with discussing presidential and/or vice presidential succession?
If you go thru the list of names, they make a lot more sense from this perspective. Hence for example, Sandra Day O’Connor.
rat—His base is already deserting him- and after a few dem hearings into his–well– business practices- they’re gonna REALLY hate his ass…
The worst thing is—-HE LOST…His base doesn’t tolerate losers.. Watch em eat him up.
Rayne– Yep…he said it. He apparently really hated seeing Alito go through.
“No more Alito’s” is a good rally cry. That’s where Liarman really screwed us, his party, and well, everyone. We are stuck with Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia for decades, that makes holding the other 5 seats an ABSOLUTE priority.
Rayne–Lieberman’s no longer an issue- the clusterfuck judges won’t ever get out of the judiciary committee- that’s why clusterfuck wants to try to slip a few bad apples in through the lame duck session. Doubt if that will fly.
rat–Yep–this was really all about getting a majority in the senate—
Dems would actually have been better off LOSING this time around- except for the judges- and now they’ve got a blockade.
Hugh @ 100
Hugh, I watched this carefully and I recall *the* reason we needed to attack Iraq pre-emptively was that Iraq was an “imminemt threat” to US national security.
They’re argument was Iraq is an “imminemt threat” because they have WMD.
I never bought that justification, even if they had chemical, biological stuff, so I always knew the war was based on a lie.
Kemo
Clusterfuck HAD to claim an imminent threat or the invasion would have been clearly illegal according to international law.
This looks interesting: Webb and Tester on MTP.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/…..bb-tester/
rw, that’s exactly right, and it was BS all along, to me, even if they had some viles of anthrax.
Of course, they big sales push was condi’s Nigerian mushroom
On Thread: Leahy Calls On Justice Department
To Investigate Laura Ingraham’s Phone Jamming
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/…..aham-vote/
No way do I think the Dems would have been bette off losing, even beyond the judgeships.
If you really think W’s ratings are going into the teens then no way are there enough true believers left behind to pin Iraq on the Dems.
They’ll be fine, but they’ll be even better after 08 (21 R seats v 12 D seats to hold) when they can lance the Liarman boil one and for all.
Bush is the lame duck NOW, it’s Liarman’s turn in two years.
rat
Well it’s going to be a very bad two years in my opinion. We haven’t seen the bottom in the housing bubble fiasco–the deficit is going to grow- and whatever happens if Iraq is going to piss most everyone off- so an argument can be made that as far as long term political prosperity is concerned- the dems would have been better off letting the goopers take the credit for the next two years. (of course an argument can be made the other direction as well).
Amazing—Clusterfuck in Vietnam tellin the vietnamese that we would have beaten em if we weren’t such pussies.
This guy’s headed for the scrap heap.
rwcole @ 129
At warp 9.
Rayne @ 86
…”some” ways?…
Any specification as to what ways it isn’t?
Puma–
Yeah–Denny’s gone- an they all have “minority” in front of their titles.
new new thread – Taylor’s up with the word for the day: escalation.
Hugh @
92
In my brief moments of optimism I think okay they just have some bad habits that will have to be broken due to the demands of popularity/ratings of the D party. Then I realize that many in MSM (television) may no longer have investigative skills. They also have lost any reliance on real news for programming so it will take someone who is ready to experiment with money and effort, creating a real news format from scratch in most situations. /end optimism
EvilDrPuma — hey, I reported what I heard. Usually modifying parsing of thought on the part of the talking head so as not to sound “unbalanced”…or factual.
;-)
Hugh #100 — you know what? after hearing the latest scuttlebutt from perris(me2me) about Rover, I think what I saw today was a preemptive attack on the truth. The party line right now is not that they didn’t lie, or that they had to go to war on the truth they had, but that the lies-I mean, facts–were only a little bit of the reason.
Bet you they are setting up Cheney and Rover both as firewalls to Shrub.
It’s a man, baby!