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Time Magazine takes a peek at some myths that have cropped up in the shorthanded discussion of the 2006 elections. And, as it turns out, the CW is getting it mostly wrong...again...according to Time. The whole short article is worth a read -- and is something a whole lot of liberal bloggers have been saying -- but it's nice to see facts make it into print, isn't it? Here's my favorite part:
MYTH: Republicans lost their base.REALITY: The base turned out, they just got beat.
Right-wing pundits and some conservative politicians have argued that the midterms were, in the words of Rush Limbaugh, a "loss for Republicanism, not conservatism," and that genuine conservatives stayed away from the polls (or cast protest votes) to show their displeasure with a party that had strayed from first principles. Rep. Mike Pence (R-In.) is running for minority leader with a statement that posits, "I believe that we did not just lose our Majority — we lost our way. We are in the wilderness because we walked away from the limited government principles." But, says the White House's political director Sara Taylor, the difference between base turnout in 2002 and 2006 is within the margin of error. And independent exit polls show the same percentages of voters who called themselves "evangelicals," "white born-again Christians," "weekly church-goers," "Republicans" and "conservatives" as in 2006 as in 2004. "The base turned out," says Taylor, "but independents made up a larger share of the electorate and they broke very heavily Democratic."
Yes, that's right, Karl. Your revved up base still turned out in droves, based on your nasty "push the worst buttons of their souls" political strategery, and yet...well...you still got your ass handed to you. Boo yah!
It's great that Time decided to take a moment and look at the facts as opposed to just the Beltway CW -- more of this, please.
(Oh, and while we're talking about ass-kickings...go Mountaineers! Apologies to any of our Pitt readers out there, but I couldn't help myself this morning. H/T to Siun for the article link. Photo from the campy but still fun to watch Clash of the Titans.)
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I’m a pitt alumni, and I share your sentiments- we deserved to get clobbered
Heinz field has been a little…cursed…these past few months…
‘Neers stomp the Pornstache. Nice! and BEAT THE BUCKS! GO BLUE!
It’s all in the turnout,no? Makes it harder to cheat on the elections and makes the point that maybe the people have a pretty good idea what they need to have better lives.
‘Morning, Christy!! Hope you and the Peanut are feeling perkier today!
The trick will be keeping the indies on the Dem side of the ballot, and keeping them voting. I hope in two years they are not so burnt out that they don’t turn out, what with all the disclosures that are sure to be made during the next year. Scandal fatigue is sure to be a real risk.
And if only we could get Mr. Matlin to STFU. More of this Rumsfeldian blatherings again on the Today Show this morning. Grrr…
what has amazed me regarding the press coverage the last couple days is - here we’ve just elected the very first female Speaker of the House and the MSM has taken a perfectly appropriate competition for leadership as some great failure of Nancy Pelosi… huh?
just another thing to make my head spin…
Actually I took a careful look at the CNN exit polls (posted here), and the number of conservatives actually declined even though the conservative demographic (male, upper-class, church-going, etc) made up a larger share of the electorate than in 2004. The Republicans did a better job than in 2004 at turning out conservatives. The numbers seem to indicate that the number of ideological conservatives might be shrinking, while at the same time independents are disenchanted.
I think that the Time article misses one point - that this blog and others supported and encourage early on candidates who had no suport from the big boys in DC. That and also the belief in Dean’s 50 state strategy.
Methinks this is both good news and bad news. The bad news is that the Republican base are sticking with the party in spite of the scandals and incompetence. They’ll be back in 2008. Independents are more fickle. Many of them will think the emergency’s over and will not bother to vote again in 2008. There goes a lot of the Democratic margin.
OldCoastie @
5
It doesn’t surprise me- it’s all about sales, and if you say “ok” and report the results you get 1 news cycle, and a pretty boring one, but if the next day you spin it as a conflict-creating result you get 2 news cycles from the same story, a more interesting one, and the possibility to expand in the future
It’s not that everyone claiming it actually believes that shes crying herself to sleep at night, theyre just ensuring they have a job in the future
Harder to be mad about gays getting married when you are REALLY worried about putting food on your family.
I ran the numbers, and even if self-identified conservatives made up the same share of the electorate as in 2004 (34 rather than 32) and they had done better among them (81% rather than 78%), they would have only cut their margin of defeat in half. It’s independents that beat them, not conservatives.
The thing pissing me off about the Pelosi coverage is that there is a three-way race for the Minority Leader position for the GOP — and do you hear the press saying “GOP fighting amongst themselves?” No. Why? (a) Because it apparently hasn’t occurred to them, and (b) Democratic pundits aren’t out there pushing it. SIGH
Democratic Pundits? Like who, Joke Line? Smeagol Matalin? You need to go back to CNN Christy and smack some sense into them!
Carville - does he really have a job with the Dems? outside of being a loudmouth, does he have any say in any way?
publius — interesting stuff. I know that Bowers is doing some work on several different exit polls, but I haven’t had a chance to look and see if he’d gotten analysis up as yet, and on what aspects. Since The Peanut hasn’t been feeling well — and now I’ve caught her ick — I’m behind in my analytical reading. Really appreciate you posting some number crunching in the comments. :)
OldCoastie at 14 — I believe he still gets hired as a campaign consultant. Which means if Dean had sent the money Carville is bitching about to Rahm, odds are some of it would have ended up in Carville’s pocket. Hmmmm…see any motivation for his bitching? Ahem.
Ahem, indeed, Redd
Gang — am planning on putting together a list of charities or groups that sell products that benefit various groups for Saturday’s Pull Up A Chair. Since gift-giving season is fast approaching, I thought we would all appreciate a few suggestions about gifts that would be able to make folks happy — and maybe help someone out as well. E-mail me if you have a fave and I’ll try and get the whole list together for everyone tomorrow. :)
No problem. I’m a political scientist by training, so I just love have numbers to crunch!
Voter suppression in Democratic areas doesn’t have the same impact when people in Republican districts are voting for the Dems too.
Hard to suppress the vote everywhere. We need to drag this sorry story out into the light of day. Vote tampering is something that nearly everyone can agree is unfair.
Go Scarlet Knights!!
Go Ruckers!
There’s a promo running on XM right now featuring Carville’s sports show with Luke Russert(Timmah’s kid). The promo features Carville interviewing his “favorite republican”rep,I didn’t catch his name.
Here’s what I don’t get about all these “consultants”,why is it that these people never seem to go away? If I were in need of a consultant,I’d want someone open to possibilities,not someone who relies on the same old same old every year. I guess that’s a symptom of the larger problem,running everything like a business. Business doesn’t care about people’s lives and it certainly doesn’t do the right thing when no one is looking.
Christy Hardin Smith @
12
Well, there’s another factor involved, which is that the Democrats are now in the majority. Hoyer and Murtha were battling for the #2 leadership position, whereas on the GOP side, they’re fighting over the #5 position, if that?
“The responsibility of a minority party member in the House of Representatives is to make quorum and draw a paycheck.” I forget who said that and I’m probably misquoting, but the fact is that now that “our team” is in control, we’re going to get more attention. Plus, as much as I love Nancy, she did sort of create the “controversy” (though I do give her credit for taking a stand.)
Surely, the Dems aren’t going to get as much of a free ride as the old team did, but I think the increased coverage is a welcome thing. At least they’re not ignoring us like they used to.
Turnout in the US is embarassingly low for a so-called participatory democracy. Imagine if one were required to vote by law in the US, a la Australian rules. You can leave your ballot blank, but you have to turn a ballot in …
I don’t know how much it would change any given outcome, but it does seem that the higher the turnout, the more progressive the result — and thus those repeated attempts by Republicans to suppress the vote …
Are there any reasons we couldn’t require all citizens turn in a ballot? Are there any reasons we shouldn’t?
(I’ve always wondered about this … will check back tomorrow to see if anyone’s responded, as it’s already futon time here, alas …)
Christy–
Does fdl make money on our products at cafepress?
Some of those would make lovely presents.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 18
Wonderful idea Christy. Here’s my two cents. The Center for Women and Families.
http://www.thecenteronline.org/history.php
Is there still time to produce an fdl 2007 calendar?
What about Trivial Pursuit–fdl version.
Contributions to BlueAmerica, which as a PAC has an annual limit of $5,000 so be careful not to exceed the limit :)
Other ideas?
Christy: I sent you a copy of Robin Hood in Reverse: The Looting of the Gulf Coast by Bill Quigley. Bill Quigley is a human rights lawyer and law professor at Loyola
University New Orleans. To learn more about the looting of the Gulf, check out www.justiceforneworleans.org and the CorpWatch report, “Big, Easy Money: Disaster Profiteering on the American Gulf Coast.”
medaka–still hanging in there. It helps when the company leaves. Am still trying to wring out all that excess energy from election week with some progress.
From what I’ve ready everywhere, the REPUB and DEM bases turned out as did the youth vote. There seemed to be a slight shift toward DEMS by evangelicals in certain senate races fronting a moderate DEM (VA, MT). The significant change in this cycle was the shift of INDIES and Latinos to the DEMS.
The challenge for Pelosi is to herd the cats toward common ground on real world issues that matter to our constituencies. How many problems could we begin to mitigate with the money and resources that we will be pouring in to Iraq over the next 12 months???
Lets hope Pelosi will focus on the ‘Dean/Pelosi list’ and see if the Black, Blue Dog, and other important constituencies can find common ground.
I think all else is a distraction at this point. The fragile coalition is looking for outcomes that make a difference in their lives.
BTW, Carville has always been a whore. It’s just that he and us had more common ’sidewalk’.
As per usual, Glenn is spot on.
Beltway Attacks on Nancy Pelosi
The mindless group-think driving the media’s caricatures of Nancy Pelosi is truly astounding to behold, even considering the source. She’s not even Speaker yet, and they’ve already pronounced her to be a bitchy, vindictive shrew incapable of leading because she’s consumed by petty personal bickering rather than serious and substantive considerations. And all of this is based on nothing.
[…]
It’s what these pundits and journalists do. They have pre-conceived, vapid notions about everything and everyone — all driven by deep self-love for their own superior wisdom — and they distort reality and crowd out sober analysis of everything that matters. Nancy Pelosi, and really everyone, would be well-advised not to listen to them and, above all, never adopt as a goal trying to please or satisfy them. They are frivolous and out of touch with everything that matters and should be treated as such.
[…]
Regarding requiring people to vote, the Soviets did this and I cannot see how this fits our idea of freedom.
We could get better participation with mail voting like Oregon, if that is the goal.
With required universal voting, speaking of Soviet ways, enforcement would only be against people the authorities didn’t like.
That’s the same thing that will happen when they start in with employer sanctions for hiring illegal immigrants. Only the politically weak will get the enforcement. Unless they pay a bribe.
Christy Christy Hardin Smith @ 18
The contact page does not work for me … I think you have an aol address … can you share it again?
Christy, I have made a PDF of the FDL cookbook I grabbed from the “pull up a chair” thread that you did. I can post it on my site and sell it for Blue America.
This morning reading about W.’s ‘plan’ for one ‘last big push’ in Iraq soured my mood. Haven’t enough people died and suffered as a result of the Oedipusian Bush nightmare we call the Iraq War?
Hell, it is one thing for a war to be launched over Helen of Troy, but quite another over Barbara of Bush.
blue e — you can send it to me at: ReddHedd at firedoglake dot com
My FDL e-mail is working properly these days. Thanks, Jamie!
Google has failed me.
I don’t think CW is:
Cable & Wireless
College of Westchester
Country Western
Cash Withdrawn
Christian Waltzers
Cool Wallabies!
Christy? Anybody…?
egregious @ 33
Not only that, but if everyone has to vote, I think you’ll get a lot of uninformed voters who pick the guy with the best hair, or check the first ballot spot just to get it over with.
I’m not saying we don’t have uninformed voters now (we surely do) but I think it’s important to give them the option not to vote. I do, of course, wish more people did a little research and *did* go the polls. But, if you’re not going to inform yourself about who’s on the ballot and what their positions are, I think not voting is the more responsible decision.
percy @ 38
CW == conventional wisdom
CW = conventional wisdom
Which I’m sure a number of us will confirm.
12/2/2006
Go RU!
hehehehe — I see we have some Rutgers fans in the audience. *g*
I wish I had that problem.
twisted -
I have about 7 pull-up-a-chair collections containing varying degrees of receipes (including the first) as both txt and rtf files. If you e-mail me (Christy will surely be kind enough to forward your e-mail to me or give you my address; it’s on this thread), I’ll e-mail you the lot.
send them to dan AT twistedmartini DOT com
re: “CW” - thank you, all. Should have been obvious.
We could get better participation with mail voting like Oregon, if that is the goal.
I wonder if Oregon’s mail voting system doesn’t encourage complacency to a certain extent. Democrats only picked up 4 or 5 seats in the state house in a “wave” election. A bit disappointing.
Twisted Martini @ 46
Will do.
Myth, or just more of the mouth gushing they can’t seem to stop– That the Pelosi/Murtha “debacle” shows definitively that the Dems are right off the bat infighting, disorganized, blah, blah.
I would point out that in the Republican fight for power yesterday the results show a very definite Split and more infighting within their own, split right down the middle, the difference of one vote selecting the next top guy. That will be much harder to overcome when trying to gather the party for their usual all for one and one for all approach to representing their diverse constituencies.
I think that the Time article misses one point - that this blog and others supported and encourage early on candidates who had no suport from the big boys in DC. That and also the belief in Dean’s 50 state strategy.
yeah, Time still doesn’t get “the netroots”…
Like most of the corporate media, they think its like the aspens, whose roots are connected….(gee what a great metaphor! glad I thought of it! :) ) …and that all the bloggers worked together.
That’s nonsense, of course. Sure everyone got behind Lamont, and supported Democrats for the Senate, but the real impact of the “netroots” was in the House — and there were very few “consensus” candidates there. Of the 33 candidates listed by three biggest “Act Blue” affiliated bloggers (NetRoots, Blue America, Atrios), only 6 candidates were listed by all three. Time concentrates only on one organization (Netroots) while ignoring the rest of the “blogging” community — perhaps even more critically, “MoveOn.org, while not blogger based, is certainly part of the “netroots”, and was probably even more influential that NetRoots in the campaign — but didn’t even get mentioned.
Time doesn’t understand what the “netroots” actually accomplished (taking candidates that weren’t on Rahm’s list and making them “viable” — and when it became obvious that Rahm’s strategy was a failure, the DCCC finally started giving these previously ignored money some support. Nor does Time really recognize that it wasn’t about supporting “long-shots”, it was about supporting progressives (especially those running against total wingnuts) regardless of their odds of winning this year — it was also about building the “progressive” movement.
Does this mean TIME is going to get rid of fact-free “thinkers” like Sully, and avoid the likes of that fetid swamp known as Joe Klein?
Meanwhile please enjoy my tribute to Lorenz Hart.
Go PANTHERS!!!!
(Sorry, Christy, hope you won’t ban me.)
p.lukasiak at 51 — there you go with that weird ass long-term thinking again. You expect the media to start doing that, too? Clearly, you need more coffee… *g*
Personally, I believe our turnout overwhelmed the 1 or 2 percent fudge-factor built into electronic voting. If the votes were accurately counted, we’d have more House seats.
Regarding Trex’s topic below, here is my email to the UCLA chancellor.
Dear Chancellor Abrams:
Please secure all evidence, including video and security reports, regarding the incident in the UCLA library. I have personal experience how those products can become ‘elusive.’
Sooner or later, an independent jurisdiction will ask for them and I urge your full cooperation. While you should conduct your own investigation, you will understand I will not regard it as authoritative - UCLA has built-in and unavoidable bias.
As an institute of free inquiry and the scientific method, you understand my concerns.
I want UCLA to have every opportunity to right this horrific incident. At this time, I do not hold UCLA accountable for the incident - I hold the security detail responsible. Going forward however, I hold UCLA responsible for the reaction. If the university is forthcoming and transparent, and makes it abundantly clear this will not stand, you will mend fences easily.
If the university circles the wagons,you will totally lose my support.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
xxxxxxx
Go Mountaineers!
Digby has a good post about how the kewl kidz are excited to be taking shots at Democrats in power again. So what can we do to counteract those dipshits?
And why the fuck is the NYT writing articles about the conservative reach? didn’t they get the memo?
medaka @
25
Medaka, I read somewhere that the rest of the world have far fewer elections than the US. We have national elections every other November, as well as primaries and local elections, sometimes on a yearly basis.
I think it’s amazing that as many people turn out as much as they do, though, obviously, I’d love to see a 100% turnout.
David at 52 — well, I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one, if I were you.
portia at 53 — heeeee No offense taken, seeing how we already kicked their butts this year. (Truly, how sad is it that no matter how great a season we have, it’s only a really great season if we beat Pitt? I know it’s probably the same for them, too, but it’s such a great rivalry every year.)
I see we have some Rutgers fans in the audience.
Fair weather fan, in this case. It’d be really funny to see the NCAA have to deal with an undefeated Rutgers.
Christy:
I think an overlooked point in your post is that the White House’s political director Sara Taylor is the person quoted in the Time article. Did Sara not get Karl’s talking points?
“you still got your ass handed to you”
Christy, I applaud you for passing up such an easy cheap shot. :)
My mom’s oldest brothr, Russ Crane, was line coach for WVU from the end of WWII through 1962. When WV came to Oregon every other year, we’d drive down to Portland or Corvallis to watch them play. I’ve been a Mountaineer fan ever since.
Ed*ard at 64 — what a fun story. When I was at Smith, I would go every year over to UMass for the basketball game with WVU, back when we were all in the Atlantic 10 conference. It was always me and five or six older gentlemen — same fellas every year — in our WVU sweatshirts. And that was about it for the cheering section. It was a blast.
medaka at 25, Democracynow had Ralph Nader on last week and he brought up the topic of required voting as a civic duty. He stated that the only required civic duty was jury trial in the US and that many other countries required voting of there citizens, with the option of course to vote for no one.
Speaking of myth-slaying:
Even as the media is already pronouncing Pelosi’s speakership to be “doomed” because of a typical leadership battle, they aren’t trying to spin the revival of the titanic Boehner-Blunt Majority Leader rivalry in the House GOP as evidence of the GOP House Caucus’s allegedly fragile state.
David Ehrenstein @ 52
OOT - this is a fine tribute. For anyone who feels that the sophistication of music and especially lyrics in the early to mid 20th century outshines most of what’s been produced in the decades since, take a look, and then find/listen to some of the performances.
Christy,
I overlooked the obvious regarding the picture.
Who is the hero that decapitated Ann Coulter?
Harry Hamlin, of LA Law fame.
If we do an fdl cookbook we need to check if some of the recipes are from published sources. Might be copyright issues.
I think a major reason so many people do not vote is because they say it doesn’t make any difference. How can you argue with that, because the record speaks for itself. If people had to vote Perhaps we’d see Independents, Progressives and the like have a chance to win more elections.
Ohio State Bucks forever!
Christy, I just love the way you talk to Karl. And Karl might even like it. I bet when he reads it (and we know he does) his heart rate goes up, and his palms start to sweat.
Yeah, his wife is cute!
Perhaps Ann was stuck in his head, like one of those obnoxious songs you can’t turn off, and it interferred with the course of nature, forcing Harry to take drastic measures.
Oh wait! My bad - Harry is holding Medusa!
Damn, I thought Ann was toast!
(sigh)
phoebes @ 58
I’ve read it’s also partly due to more levels and branches of government being elected (plus initiatives, amendments, etc.) so a voter has to know more to feel informed enough to make a decision. (I can’t tell you how many voters on election day were asking what the state constitution amendments were all about, since they hadn’t seen a word about them before.) That’s one of the reasons vote-by-mail is so effective in raising turnout — if you don’t know about something, you can look it up before you vote.
egregious @ 71
I once did some research on this. A recipe per se is not copyrightable. The commentary that you add to it is. Thus you can’t publish a Chef Prudhomme recipe verbatim, but you are free to publish the list of ingredients for his Cajun spice mix and incorporate your own instructions. Google “recipes copyright” for more info.
egregious @
20
One of Majority leaders Reid’s top 10 legislative priorities is criminal penalties for robo-calls and misleading campaign literature. Thank you Majority leader Reid! It’ll be interesting to watch the Florida voting machine problems also.
I requested last night that my wife purchase Webb’s book “Born Fighting” for Christmas.
Adding Salon link for Reid’s legislative priorities:
http://www.salon.com/politics/.....index.html
Hell, I can post it up and you can download it for free.
And, for your dining and dancing pleasure, the Firedoglake Martini Lounge proudly presents…
The Dead Schembechlers!
well good morning Firedogs . . .
catching up after a week or so of radio silence . . .
hey Christie ! - hope you AND The Peanut are feeling much better
agree, agree, agree, with your fab-o post
paul lukasiak - nailing it, again ! belated mad props to you for calling out the Trendahl angle in the Foley mess - weeks before the crowd
has anyone heard from our *ilson ?!?!
jackaroyd @ 61 - suspect NCAA/sportswriters will do the same thing they did in the mid 80’s when BYU went undefeated and QB won final game with broken ankle on his throwing leg - nothing !
karen allen & Twisted - some of us are just big college football fans with no dog in the hunt - and are really looking forward to a war in Columbus tomorrow !
BREAKING: Stephanie Miller on my AA station is slapping down mr matlin re: DR. DEAN . . .
f you carville and dont let the door hit you on the shrum on the way out.
Twisted Martini @
2
And all hail the Dead Schembechlers!
Balrog @ 82
Balrog, see 79
BTW, could we enlist Harry Hamlin (pictured above) to do some more of that head hewing on a few more Hydras? Looks like he got Pamela in that shot.
Twisted Martini @ 83
Great minds, and all that… Bp
The Mugging of Murtha
suspect NCAA/sportswriters will do the same thing they did in the mid 80’s
Don’t see how they can do that. Having ranked the Mountaineers 3rd, I don’t see how they can tell a story that denies Rutgers the bid if they go undefeated. They can do that to Boise State, but I don’t see how they can do it Rutgers.
Of course, this is all irrelevant. Louisville was the better team. The win (and it was a great game) was a testament to home field advantage. The fans just kept the defense fired up.
The Scarlet Knights are going to have a very difficult time in Morgantown.
On the fly — happy weekend, pups.
And Happy Birthday to Howard Dean!
The Clintonistas sucked up all the oxygen and energy and MONEY during the ’90s. Dean’s 50-state strategy worked. And he is my hero.
egregious @
20
In yesterday’s hearings with the Justice Depts civil rights attorneys, Chuck Schumer was adamant that the only way to prevent the kinds of suppression we saw in this last election was to throw some people into jail for it. He pressed the fellow on the hot seat about what was happening regards investigations into the incidents he had brought up earlier, the guy spoke about the horde of lawyers who were out during the vote but Chuck cut him off and asked him to answer his actual question.
Not my department, says he, but I will check for you.
You do that, says Chuck, and we’ll get back with you after the New Year.
Myth-busting: since the Dem pundits can’t seem to get their act together, maybe we need to take a different tack.
Like Meet the Press, this Sunday, will have Tester and Webb…two of the new Big Dogs on the block. You can submit questions/comments on the MTP page at MSNBC before Timmeh–or whoever may fill in for his broken ankle–locks in the script.
Same-old Tired-old Flat Old McCain on Snuffy’s show.
And Schieffer had some strong comments about the total screwup in Iraq during his Imus moment this morning…will MSNBC have the smarts to put up a vid-clip?
Uh-oh — just heard Lester Holt asking a pundit if Iraq becomes the Democrats’ war in January. Guess what meme is coming…. why am I not surprised.
raven @ 89
Michigan just doesn’t have a chance against the Bucks. None.
Speaking of myths
John McCain is now the common sense conservative.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljou.....ts_hi.html
Which begs the question, does this mean there are so many conservatives who lack common sense that you have brand yourself as one who has it?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 16
Shorter Christy: Carville makes money when Democratic House candidates lose.
An Angry Old Broad @ 23
Bing! Bing! Bing!
raven @ 89
karen allen @ 93
Wishing doesn’t make it so Karen…
Mornin Redd- glad the media are starting the long process of understanding this election- they’ll get it understood just in time for the next one- which will be COMPLETELY different. Like a Pentagon always fighting the LAST war- the media will have the opportunity to be continuously awed and amazed.
We don’t have mountaineers out here- only ducks and beavers and bears (oh my).
TM #98 –
Oh my. It’s the ghosts of UM-OSU past, Woody Hayes screaming at Bo Schembechler…
I must admit, I get all verklempt when I hear “Sloopy”, even if I’m yelling, “Go Blue!”
OT:
I keep thinking about raising money for running FDL. I think it would be cool to have “Gold” membership. Commit to something like $5 a month or more and the link in your name in the comments section is gold colored. Seems like a simple tech piece, and FDL would have a list of the most active members emails for Blue America updates, other worthwhile causes.
I think people would be proud to display their support for FDL in the comments section.
NaNOO @ 66
Good morning.
this is O.T. but might be of interest because You Tube videos are so popular.
You Tube to blogger: Saving of movies not allowed
RAW STORY
Published: Friday November 17, 2006
YouTube, the popular online video hosting service, has issued a cease and desist order to blogger Michael Arrington of TechCrunch demanding he remove a downloadable tool which captures videos from the site, Technology Daily has reported.
snip
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._1117.html
Michigan/ Ohio State.
I remeber watching one of those once- a long time ago. The weather stunk and Woody and Bo were both punting on third down…
Big Ten Football- Big Whoop!!
Prairie,
Tweety and ilk wasted no time on election night and every waking minute since to push the meme that the Democratic Party is now “responsible” for Iraq. To which I say bull fucking shit. It’s the Rethugs and Bush’s war, all their war, only their war, and they own it to the end of time. We’re certainly going to make sure the ReThugs fix it and are held accountable for it though which makes the Tweeties cringe inside, the outer crap is all bluff and puff.
rwcole @ 100
When I first went to work at the University of Oregon many years ago, I made the mistake of asking how a fighting team could be named “Ducks” I got a lot of cold looks and I continued to screw up when I brought up the ducks painted on the crosswalks all over campus.