
Well, my friends, since no-one (and I mean NO-ONE) in Reich Wing circles seems to be willing to discuss the arrest of Free Republic poster, MalKKKinite, and domestic terrorist Chad Castagana, I guess it's going to be up to us to put this issue into perspective and explain what it means for Right Blogistan and, by extension, us here in the Reality-Based Community. This incident gives us a valuable look into the mindset of the sad, lonely men who read Pajamas Media and the threat they pose to American society.
It can be a very dangerous thing for an ideological zealot to gain a large and uncritical audience, whether you're talking about Adolf Hitler, Muqtada al-Sadr, or Ann Coulter. The kind of solipsistic, eliminationist rhetoric these people trade in has a particular appeal to disaffected angry young men who are socially isolated and bursting with undirected rage. When you band these people together into groups, they turn into mobs. If they're religious extremists from Muslim cultures, we call them muhajadeen or jihadi. If they're political and religious extremists from Western nations, we call them freepers or just "Republicans".
Chad Castagana is a 39-year-old, unemployed Californian who, in his own words, thinks of Ann Coulter as "a goddess" and "worship(s) Michelle Malkin and (Reich Wing Talk Radio shrew) Laura Ingraham". Up until a few days ago, Mr. Castagana was living with his parents and seemed like a nice enough guy, sure. A quiet type. Kept to himself. You get the picture.
Radar magazine tells us more:
According to an FBI affidavit obtained by Radar, Chad Conrad Castagana, who was arrested Monday on suspicion of sending powder-filled envelopes to Keith Olbermann, Jon Stewart, Sumner Redstone, David Letterman, Pelosi, and New York Senator Charles Schumer, purchased a $15 money order made out to "Friends of Katherine Harris" last September at a Woodland Hills, Calif., post office while he was picking up the envelopes and stamps he employed to terrorize the liberal elite.
According to the affidavit, Castagana, an "average looking" 39-year-old white guy who lives with his parents in Woodland Hills, attempted to send 13 fake anthrax letters to the aforementioned victims starting in September. We say "attempted" because the first letter, which contained the message, "Do you know Alan Berg? You should. Death to demagogues," and a harmless white powder, was sent to a poor sap on the Upper West Side named Jon Stewart—but not that Jon Stewart. (Alan Berg is the Jewish talk-radio host murdered by white-supremacists in Denver in 1984.)
Nice. But it gets better.
One of the Stewart letters featured a "picture of a recently deceased tsunami victim with a condition known as Priapism, an erect penis on a cadaver." Handwritten on the picture were the words, "Jon Stewart, Fuck Your Wife."
Stay Classy, Katherine Harris supporters!
Here are some of Castagana's other white-powder MASH notes:
To Olbermann: "There are too many demagogues in America. All of you are poisoning the well! Time to give your kind a taste of your own medicine."
To Redstone: "Fuck You Mr Monopolist [sic]"
To Letterman: "more then one way to frag a demagogue… your kind are the real poison [sic]"
To Pelosi: "CUNTFACE. IMPEACH THIS."
Charmed, I'm sure. This is a portait of the ideal Malkin reader, furiously angry, pathetically eager to carry out whatever he perceives as his masters' bidding, and a deeply uncritical thinker, an unquestioning foot-soldier to the Reich Wing's brand of dangerous ideological extremism. The Malkins of the world have provided a valve for the worst elements of American society; a bung-hole for all the hate, cowardice, xenophobia, and violence that simmer under the surface of our culture. They play upon people's fears and launch their very own little home-grown fatwas against people like the Dixie Chicks, the entire nation of Germany, and even the entire staff of photographers at the New York Times, going so far as to publish their ideological opponents' personal contact information on line, which, when your fans are people like Chad Castagana, inevitably results in death threats and terroristic acts. One woman was hounded to the point that it may well have contributed to her suicide, which took place two months after Malkin published her contact information and sent her readers in for the kill. And Mary Katherine Ham wonders why I don't want to rub shoulders with her at a party and make nicey-nice! These people are ultimately exactly the same as the radical Islamic clerics and jihadis they claim to oppose, and it's time we called them out as such. The Right Blogosphere is a cesspool of boiling hate and howling insanity and we need to stop pretending that these are people who can be engaged rationally, appeased, or tolerated. They stand in direct opposition to everything that America is about, freedom of speech, plurality of ideas, and equality before the law regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, and ideological or spiritual affiliation. To Malkinites, ALL MUSLIMS ARE KILLERS, ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE DANGEROUS, and ALL LIBERALS ARE "UNHINGED". "Unhinged" is a favorite word of Mrs. Malkin's. It was the title of one of her illegible screeds about the dangers of allowing liberals to exist in our society, but it's hard for me to imagine anyone more unhinged than a man who sends death threats and phony anthrax to media figures in an effort to silence and intimidate them. Enough is enough. Perhaps this incident and the FBI's scrutiny of hate sites like LGF and Free Republic will mean a safer, less threatening world for us all. We live in hope.



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Unhinged is right.
http://homepage.mac.com/masonmcd/.Pictures/PJM.png
The little arcs are from the flailing.
TRex banishes the Malkintents!
Amen
Well said, TRex.
I can’t wait until Haliburton finishes our detention camps and we can start rounding up Republican-deadenders (like this Castanaga fellow) and keep them away from decent society.
Hello, dear TRex !!
the silence on the Pajama media in this matter is deafening. Given Malkin’s tendency to find a weird nobody blogger and try to blow them up into something significant, that’s hitting pretty darn close tohome
I just knew you would deal with this. Rightards underscore the old dictum, “The closed mind always has the open mouth.”
OT The Guardian is reporting that Bush wants to go for one more big push in Iraq under a 4 point plan that seems in line with much of General Abizaid’s testimony today. This is just so wrong on so many levels. Can anyone remember how many “pushes” there have been? Probably not but I bet you can remember how successful they were.
The plan:
This is spitting in the wind in terms of effectiveness but represents a significant strain, sustainable for only a few months on an already overextended and exhausted military.
Like this is seriously going to happen and what do they expect the result to be beyond window dressing?
Maybe we could put them all on tranquillizers or get Rodney King to go over there and give them a “Can’t we all just get along” talk. It’s called a civil war, Junior, whether you and that idiot Abizaid want to call it that or not.
The Iraqi army lacks a command and control structure, logistics, heavy weapons, discipline, and an esprit de corps. Giving a few more guys rusty AK-47s will accomplish exactly nothing. An army is more than an amorphous assemblage of armed men. It is an organization. See the problem?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq…..48,00.html
This story if true represents a “stop him before he kills again” moment for us and for Bush.
So, there you have it, the fatal flaw of the Democracy, everyone get’s his say..
I can’t say much about freepers or Maulkkkin. I rarely visit the dark side. I have shit to do.
http://homepage.mac.com/masonmcd/.Pictures/PJM.png
the little arcs are from the flailing.
Sounds like he had a case of red ass….
Oilfieldguy @ 8
I’m just happy I got to call Malkin a bung-hole.
BUNG hooooole.
wonder if he’s on Hannidate….
Good post, and good morning from Graz.
Do you think you could arrange for people to get visas before they can visit Europe? Yesterday I had a disturbed customer from California who was verbally very abusive, claimed we had microwaves and laser beams all over the place that prevented her being able to sleep, we were the mafia, and so on.
Thanks to you, I kept my composure, and nearly suggested she should have rented one of our invisible tin foil hats for a Euro or two more, and she would have slept like a baby, but your influence hasn’t gotten me that far yet….
Whatever, thanks for making me worry about who all else is gonna show up over here…
Remember this nutcase when it comes time to consider regulating the media once again. It should be illegal, once again, to get on the air and spew invective and rumor.
Remind your congressfolk.
Sick fucks like Castanaga need a cause, a direction in their lives. Because they have no self-identity they readily attach themselves passionately to crazy public figures; it gives them a reason to live.
While Castanaga may end up jail, it’s the cheerleaders of hate that should be hounded off the air. But then there’s that troublesome first amendment…I guess we’ll have to snark them off into the dark fringes. And hold them responsible for stunts like posting private personal information. Why wasn’t that prosecuted, anyway?
Great post, TRex.
As one might expect, Orcinus has two great posts on this guy.
He’s the kind of psycho Neiwert understands viscerally.
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/
RenB @ 17
Sorry to hear it. I hadn’t figured that her ilk would have any desire to visit Europe, but I guess it takes all kinds.
…since no-one (and I mean NO-ONE) in Reich Wing circles seems to be willing to discuss the arrest of Free Republic poster, Malkininte, and domestic terrorist Chad Castanaga…
Hey, I haven’t heard that much (if anything) about it in the “mainstream media.”
Wonder why???
Don’t get me wrong—it amused me
So, why isn’t this all over the news as a major capture in the War on Terror?
Sending threatening notes to high-profile victims because you want to terrify them? They catch the guy, but it’s No Big Deal?
Damn Liberal Media!
RenB @ 23
You have more fortitude than I. Customers like that can seriously strain my commitment to nonviolence.
How much of the talk from these Reich Wing wind-bags is real and how much is a scam? The same could be asked about the Elmer Haggards.
Alison @
20
That’s good stuff. And Orcinus is such an attractive blog. Great layout and colors. I always enjoy reading there.
“One woman was hounded to the point that she took her own life…” Come on, that’s not even close to accurate. Denice Denton had much bigger problems than some right wing hounding. There were plenty of newspaper articles about it at the time.
EvilDrPuma @ 23
This is why I love my job. If anyone asks me why I’m late, I apologize and explain the voices kept telling me to clean my guns.
They generally shut up after that.
Steve @ 26
Who, you mean Pastor Elmer Fudgepacker? That poor guy. All those preachers are trying to exorcise teh gay out of him and he’s just going to go find a new cock to sit on as soon as they leave. Provided, of course, that he can score some drugs.
I like how, on her blog, she quotes the dreaded New York Times, about her: “Firecracker!”
Well, she’s some kinda cracker, that’s for sure . . .
norstadt @ 28
You want ice in your Kool-Aid or do you take it straight?
RenB @
17
err…RenB…
paranoid delusions are a symptom of cerebral nervous system dysfunction, and hence may be found wherever one encounters (living) humans and their cerebra.
IIRC, a rather prominent Austrian who went into European politics had delusions of persecution (by Poland, among other nation states).
Can you explain the part where I’m drinking Kool-Aid? The story I read was that she got a big $$$ job at the university for her partner, while being chancellor there. That seems pretty wrong to me, and she was feeling the heat from it.
Gas Station Attendant: [in New England accent] Sure, I remember Stutts. He was a loner, but a real hard worker. I mean, he pumped the gas, he checked the oil, he washed the windows. Nice kid.
Ted Koppel: Do you believe he killed Buckwheat?
Man: Oh, yes, definitely. That’s all he talked about. I remember one day I says, uh, “Stutts, why are you working so hard?” He says, “’Cause I’m saving up to buy a gun, so I can kill Buckwheat.” [shrugs]
Do not forget the excellent FDL Book Salon — Conservatives Without Conscience hosted by Glenn Greenwald.
I am concerned that Dean has provided us with a very useful lens through which we can understand the methods and madness of the far right… and that lens is being forgotten.
Look at the three “attitudinal clusters” of Right-Wing Authoritarianism:
This fits this guy to a tee… 1) Idolizes his leaders; 2) Aggression towards their enemies in ways he perceives are sanctioned; 3) He’s written about a return to pre-political-correctness traditionalism
This guy’s the poster boy for what’s happened to the GOP.
Hey, DB!! It seems like ages since we’ve seen you around here. How’s tricks?
Things are solid, TRex. I’ve been lurking. Enjoyed catching glimpses of you on CNN during our most recent and triumphant hours.
Dover Bitch @ 38
Did I see you posting over at Feministing today? I sent Jessica a link to last night’s post, hoping she’d get a kick out of the Althouse bit.
I guess I’m starting to feel the power surge of, like, WE WON!!
Because I come to FDL and alla sudden, I think I’ve come to Jeebus.
Good One TRex!! Because regarding the pajamadeen, I wonder why those eco-”terraists” got some jail time and all over MSM, but this?
Any one die? Nope. Killed a coupla liberals though. (Thanks to Mark Twain)
I, for one, have never pretended that they should be engaged rationally, appeased, or tolerated.
I think they should be ridiculed and marginalized. For accomplishing this we thank you, Mr. TRex.
These people must be truly mentally ill. At first, I would say that, but really thought most of them were just insecure, etc.
But a 39-year-old man lives with mommy and daddy? He must feel HORRIBLE about himself. Hence, he turns to as-insecure insane freaks. I guess misery loves company.
And what is wrong with his mommy and daddy? Why would parents allow a middle-aged child to live with them, while spending what money he has on hate-filled screeds?
And don’t EVEN try and tell me it is so expensive in LA, he HAS to. BULLSHIT. Is it expensive in LA? Yes. CAN a poor person live there by himself? Of course. And if you feel you cannot live “in the manner to which you are accustomed,” MOVE. FRESNO sounds about right for you, imbecile.
That was not I. But Althouse has been entertaining lately. A lot of people have been especially entertaining now that the Congress has been reclaimed. Can you even imagine how depressing it would be if the election had been like the last three after all that’s happened in the past two years?
“Tee pee for Cornholijoe!”
;>)
Morris Sheppard @ 39
Uhh,
I think we should prolly hold off on unfurling the “Mission Accomplished” banner for a wee bit.
I’m just sayin’.
Dover Bitch @ 43
Althouse, man. She sooooo blogs like it’s 2002. “Ooh! I read today that chocolate is good for your heart! I love chocolate! Yay!”
Pffffffffft.
Oilfieldguy @ 44
OK. Strike “accomplishing” and replace with “furthering.”
norstadt @ 34
I spent twenty-five years in academia (student to faculty).
High-powered faculty humans tend to find equally talented partners. Talented faculty and administrators move to new systems with partners (gasp – not just the wifey cooking at home!)
The talented partners – who are often academics in their own careers – come as part of a package for senior level positions.
The high-level recruited academic scouts out:
(1) a position for her
and
(2) a position for the man or woman in her life.
[Both parties have to be fully qualified for their posts, or the student newspaper will run it on the frontpage - every week - and make everyone look bad…]
If high-level academic posts didn’t have the “two-fer” option, increasing numbers of faculty (especially in law, medicine, sciences, and senior admin) would just stay put.
There is nothing wrong or unusual about the arrangements described for the Chancellor’s partner. Such arrangements are normative for UC and other major academic systems.
The only wrongness about this (and this is not your responsibility, norstadt), was the SILENCE from UC and other academic stars when the “two-fer” arrangements were held up in the media like some special lesbian stolen perk.
I never saw MSM mention that dual position were/are routine for high-powered dual career hetero academic couples…
norstadt @ 34
That’s a reason to hire a lawyer, not throw yourself off a building, but I’m sure that having people phoning you with death threats a hundred times an hour had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with her decision to kill herself. Clearly, MalKKKin is to be absolved of all blame, here.
We got a sayin’ round these parts.
“Shallow ponds make for easy fishin.”
Keep it simple and make it about blame.
My newest villian is the repugnant Glenn Blech. He is a real hatemonger and would be happy to see nukes falling willy nilly about the Arab world.
How the people at CNN can induldge a moral coward and a cretin like him is the scary part.
As to this nitwit with the powder. I can only imagine that if the recipients had been Trent Lott, Tom Delay, Rupert Murdoch and Bill O, and Hannidate this story would have much more coverage.
-GSD
norstadt @
34
Some of those articles might have pointed out that it’s not unusual, nowadays when spouses or domestic partners both have valuable careers, for a university (and I’ll bet other kinds of businesses) to arrange for appropriate position for the partner as well. It might be the only way the institution can get anybody at all that meets their criteria, and it’s not clear to me that there’s anything automatically wrong with it if the person is qualified and other circumstances of the hiring are fair.
Suicides are very mysterious to an outsider, but would criticism over her partner’s job have been a main cause if it would have been easier for her to dismiss than other things might have been? I had not realized that she was the person who’s data were published by the Malkin woman that time.
Heading home.
See you kids in a bit.
T-Rex is my canary. It takes a hell of a lot of pressure to make a diamond like this.
May your brilliance grow and never dim.
kirk @ 34, yeah, you are right that the package deal isn’t unusual. The papers could have made it more clear that that’s how she got the job for her partner. At the time I thought she first became chancellor, and then hired her partner, which would be more problematic. So I better apologize for thinking worse of Ms. Denton than I should have.
don’t forget that Mannthrax Coulter took credit for mailing white powder to the Old Gray Lady last summer.
That was just a funny joke! Ha ha! I’m laughing, and I’ll bet the mail room folks are laughing too!
What a cut-up! An absoulute riot!
OT ~ Here’s something you don’t see everyday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqDAf_lg9Xs
I blame ideology…
Republicans can’t exist without ideology. They think it is the answer because it is something they believe they can control.
norstadt @ 55
norstadt, thanks so much for the real compassion shown in your apology. :)
(I’m biased, but for me there’s so much tragedy behind every suicide – I’m excessively vigilant about anything which seems to increase the load.
I apologize for carrying that energy into our home at the Lake…)
Cleanup on 56.
[Mod note; if you’re talking about Two Beers, we’re generously interpreting it as humor]
This might be a good time to sign the petition.
http://mediamatters.org/hatefree
I’ve been so disturbed at how much vitriol has been spewed in the Conglomerate Media in recent years. I guess we have Limpbaugh to thank for much of it, and is it me, or is it almost 100% from “conservatives?” They like to point out commenters on liberal blogs (which we know half of those are “conservatives” posing as liberals), and Cindy Sheehan, but who are the liberal equivalents to Man Coulter, Melanie Whoregan, and Glen Blech? What liberal pundits spout hate constantly? Can’t really think of any…It’s gotta stop.
a collection of comments by Castagana at Freeperville showing racism and an obsession with serial murderers and mutilation
and
a link to the Freeper thread that got an earlier Castagana pseudonym banned for being too Stormfront-like, which can be compared with what was said in the above part in terms of racism to find the boundaries of what is acceptable at Freeperville and the mainstream of Republicanism.
kirk murphy @
33
I really wasn’t trying to infer that that state is specifically something American, and I do understand what was wrong. In over thirty years of that work, there have been several such people from all over the place. It just happened to occur yesterday, and the post reminded me. And at five am, when the coffee hasn’t hit yet, am really not functional, so I guess I wasn’t thinking. Lurking is better, I guess..
People are prone to imitate what they hate.
One need be careful how one hates…
neokneme @ 58
I think they know it goes a bit deeper than that. Ideology is a poor source of power in and of itself, because in principle anybody can have an idea and many people can promulgate them. The real power comes not in ideas, but in the ability to control the material means by which ideas are presented. And Republicans know this well enough, or they wouldn’t have gone to such lengths to ally themselves with the corporate media through deregulation in exchange for turning mainstream media into their private echo chamber. (Constant sheeplike bleating about the “liberal media” is partly red herring and partly a way of pushing any dissenting voice out of the echo chamber.)
RenB @ 64
renB – it’s past 9 PM, here, and both my neurons are sleepy, or I wouldn’t mangle my attempts at tongue-in-cheek humor… I didn’t for a moment think you were seriously ascribing geographical (or national) causation…
I very much hope you keep commenting!
TRex @
27
He’s got Spotlight over there, too.
Kirk @ 60
You probably mean that sarcastically, but it’s not like compassion is real useful at this point. But you can be sure that I feel bad about this. After reading more about Denice Denton, she seems to have been an admirable person, and I wouldn’t care to speculate about the reasons for her suicide.
I also wouldn’t accuse people of hounding her to death, although the hounding itself was inexcusable.
Time to rent Talkradio again.
-GSD
norstadt @ 69
Gracious, no – I meant it (and mean it) sincerely. The smile was an attempt to indicate no ill will intended.
I wish pixels had vocal tone…. e-misunderstandings would be less likely….
Enough is enough. Perhaps this incident and the FBI’s scrutiny of hate sites like LGF and Free Republic will mean a safer, less threatening world for us all.
Trex – you forgot Malkin’s article index page at white supremacist site vdare and Stormfront, which the Freepers don’t want to be compared to, but after comparison aren’t really that much different other than supporting the Jerusalem Post’s vision of Israel.
kirk murphy @
60
Please do not apologize to me; this interplay between you two is the reason I come to the ‘lake. I learn something every day here.
The Evil Dr. Puma’s inner child strikes back!
I see your point about the medium being the message…
Though I’ll add that our medium is two way too. That’s why it is so attractive to those who like to feel connected.
My humor neurons appear to be off-line, and bed may bring a reset.
Goodnight, ‘pups. Don’t let the K-Street bugs bite.
Home now. Jiggety jog.
I wish I could shake this head-cold. Ick. I am one ill-liberal.
EvilDrPuma @ 60
No, I meant the jackass who thought his FDL hate site was worth linking to. You caught it.
Just saw this…
http://mediamatters.org/items/200611150004
What a fucking joke. I never heard of this Glenn Blech until Media Matters started pointing out some of his verbal diarrhea last Summer. How does this no-name get a show on CNN?!? Fucking unbelievable. This has got to be one of the most ridiculous interviews I’ve ever seen. It’s up there with this one…
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..her-place/
Jeezus…who are these people and who gives them such a big platform?!? So disturbing….
“Chad Castanaga is a 39-year-old, unemployed Californian who, in his own words, thinks of Ann Coulter as “a goddess””
Which one? My guess would be Ammut a.k.a; ‘Devouress Of The Dead’ and ‘She Who Gobbles Down’
Glen Blech is remaking himself or something… he’s been advertising here and I hear him on the LA Air America station…
very strange to try to pick up this audience!
TRex- now that you’re home- thanks for a really great post. You do have such an amazing way with words, and I appreciate that, no matter what the topic. This part of your “wordsmithing” (that sounds mudane I know, so perhaps “unfettered soaring language” would be more close to the point) was particularly appreciated by me:
“The kind of solipsistic, eliminationist rhetoric these people trade in has a particular appeal to disaffected angry young men who are socially isolated and bursting with undirected rage. When you band these people together into groups, they turn into mobs. If they’re religious extremists from Muslim cultures, we call them muhajadeen or jihadi. If they’re political and religious extremists from Western nations, we call them freepers or just “Republicans”.”
EvilDrPuma @
61
no humor intended.
Coultergeist also “joked” that her only regret about Timothy McVeigh was that he didn’t go after the New York Times.
Coulter is an advocate for terrorism against Americans. Yet the wingnuts love her, and her anti-Americanism doesn’t impede her media access.
bonkers @ 77
Excerpt:Beck said: “I have been nervous about this interview with you, because what I feel like saying is, ‘Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.’ ” Beck added: “I’m not accusing you of being an enemy, but that’s the way I feel, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way.”
Beck seems to be a little fuzzy on that due process thingy.
EvilDrPuma @ 76
I got it, but not before I ran over there and left a comment.
Won’t you please join me in shining a SPOTLIGHT on this post? Here’s my note to some favorites of mine, appended atop TRex’s post:
TRex @ 83
I thought about doing that, but the way this administration does things, I might need my fingerprints for the next time I travel.
One nnc, two nnc, three nnc…go!
Speaking of Jeezus…OK… How’s this for a philosophy —
The garbage man is the modern messiah. He takes away our sins religiously, once a week.
Glen Beck is a fucking tool. I don’t know what this whole recent publicity blitz has been about, advertising here and at Salon. Maybe he’s hoping to goad us all into watching his stupid little show.
Yawn.
Right on, TRex! The Malkins and Castaganas and Freepers and Coulters… the entire conservative movement is spawned from the notion that human beings can’t be trusted with democratic principles while progressives work to be inclusive and, hence, bring out the best in everyone. We thank you, T.
Wow. Cultists alive and well in the Rethug Party. Only a cultist would take these wackos seriously.
Authoritarianism is very scary!
A good friend of mine says that if it wasn’t for kids and old people she would be a libertarian!
TRex @ 87
One reason I’m not a cable subscriber is because I refuse to be forced to put money in the pockets of assholes like Beck (or most of the rest of CNN’s people, all of Fox’s, and a lot of MSNBC’s, Olbermann notwithstanding). I miss Keith, Stewart and Colbert, but all in all, I sleep better at night.
Blech is not even marginally good. At least with the phone sex enthusiast, you get to laff at how ridiculous he is.
Blech is actually painful to watch.
I’m all in.
G’nite firepups, from Carslisle, AR.
EvilDrPuma @ 82
For some reason my fiancee always turns to cnn when this guy is on. He is a giant gas bag of GOP talking points. I just tell him to change the channel because he is very Faux news like. He is only slightly less obnoxious than O’Liely. He typically has some winger sympathizer on and the two of them go on and on about how they believe X. Well there is rarely anyone on to defend X point of view. It is not labeled as an editorial. I am not sure what it is meant to be, but that is a major reason I don’t like O’Riely. He puts his own opinion in the middle of everything and talks over everyone else to prevent them from saying their opinion. It is really irresponsable and hard to watch!
Oh yeah and Olbermann never does that! Hugs Keith Olbermann! You rock!
I killed my cable in disgust right before Preznint Pustule was re-inaugurated. I just couldn’t take it.
I number it among my best decisions of the last five years.
I saw Beck on cnn in an airport. There were 20 people standing around listening. Really listening. Like moths to a flame. For some reason this one scares me.
Novakula throws down on Grandma over Murtha!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..v=hcmodule
and, also:
and!
Smells like Mary Matalin’s brooch to me!
bonkers @ 77
You must have forgotten that Cable Not News is all about “entertainment” and taking money from the rubes.
The way it works is that fat little piggies elevated far, far beyond even their minimal skills take a gander at our diverse population and pick out the dumbest, most inbred and mentally-challenged of our citizens and focus on picking their pockets.
And it works too! Just like taking candy from babies.
But I do have to admit that Faux does it better. They recognized that an entire political party, the Repugs, would willingly allow their pockets to be picked.
And you thought it was about news…LOL!
TRex @
87
But when the commenting slows down here, I do run up and click through on Glenn’s ad several times daily!
ReneND @ 95
Worry not, my dear. All those Reich Wing screamers have deeply sordid inner secrets which they believe will never come to light, but which always do. His crack addiction/tranny photos/underage mistress will appear soon enough and we will all get to have a long and hearty laugh as he plummets back to well-deserved obscurity.
Tick…tick…tick…
I’ll restore my cable connection the day the impeachment proceedings are announced.
From that point of view it can’t be too soon.
TeddySanFran @ 96
Somebody needs to point out to WaPo’s editors that Novak’s right to free speech in no way obligates them to provide him with an audience.
And now, seven hours after the sun sank slowly in the west, it’s time for my nightly hibernation. Until next time, may the Farce be with you.
EvilDrPuma @ 82
Not to mention the blatant bigotry thing. We’re talking about a newly elected congressman here! It would be as if after Oklahoma City, every Christian guest was asked whether they were working with the terrorists.
Here’s an exit strategy:
Worked in the past!
EvilDrPuma @ 90
Same here. We can watch Keith et al through the Internets anyway.
This is probably so far down the list, and personally I feel it should be quite high, but something has gotta be done about media conglomeration. It’s really at a crisis point. If we can keep a DemocratIC Congress and Executive for many years to come, we should be able to break it up. Clinton’s Telecommunications Act of 1996 has been diasterous for our republic. The number of messengers (Beck, Coulter, etc) and the messages themselves are so lopsided in the “conservatives” favor, how can you NOT think it’s a conspiracy. Plus, there’s all kinds of proof that it is like this…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..34128.html
Who sits at an executive meeting and thinks, “Yea, that Glenn Beck is great! He should have his own show on national TV.”
Thank god we won these elections. It was almost too late. Still a lot of work to do as we all know around here….
Night, Doc P!!
Keep coming back!
Let’s add one thing–this brand of hatemongering has been around for a long, long time, but what kept it in check was the Fairness Doctrine.
It was not until the most important aspects of that rule were repealed that this stuff came out of the radio 24/7. It’s not just that it exists, but that it became audio wallpaper almost everywhere one went.
ReneND @ 95
I’ve been putting together a local group that’ll identify businesses that seem to always have Pox news on. We’ll keep a database with the info and organize boycotts of those businesses until they agree to not have Pox on. Seriously, I don’t want my kids sitting at a restaurant with Pox blaring in the background as we’re eating, and that’s literally how the idea came about. We’re in a very liberal city, so it might actually have some success. We’ll see…
Can use Rupert’s recent quote about the troop deaths in Iraq being historically insignificant. This is the kind of message you want to inflict upon your customers?
Hey, everybody.
Go by and tell Rick Moran to fix his spelling.
“ANTRAX HOAXER CAUGHT: Where’s Malkin?”
He’s trying so hard to be ironic and clever, but that’s very hard to pull off when you misspell your title.
montag @ 107
Absolutely.
AnTRex…!
Who do you have to insult to get a drink around here?
Did he mean Ann-thrax?
neokneme @ 100
I don’t understand why impeachment proceedings are not being discussed on the news, every day.
Judging from my grocery store and gas station conversations, people are really angry at this war, this economy, this president, and now that we’re back in power, they’re looking to see what we brought. Are we here to help? Or just more words? I’m worried we’re wasting time here.
Valley Girl @ 112
Maybe he was thinking about trains.
Margot @ 113
You would probably like this book alot…
http://www.amazon.com/Genius-I…..1595581405
It’s the most recent book from John Nichols of The Nation.
neokneme @ 111
What’s your poison, good-lookin’?
“Antrax”, I mean, come on! It’s THE TITLE OF THE POST! You should make ABSOLUTELY sure you spell correctly there, if anywhere.
Goddamn fucking idiots, man. Illiterate, pompous, insufferable, arrogant little bullet catchers, all of em.
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Rush, O’Reilly etc. didn’t get the job done for the McVeigh wing of the GOP. Evidently Glen Beck is now the annointed one to carry the baton for them. I think his advertizing on sites like this is just an “in your face” form of taunting us. To Mr. Beck I say “Look at the scoreboard. America doesn’t buy into your kind of bullshit anymore.”
I’m picturing a kind of Media bukkake, here.
Margot @ 113
Just my musings here, but I think the plan is to approach this impeachment thingee “stealthily”. Kinda sneak up on ‘em if you get my drift.
Rather than going around shouting “Let’s impeach the Chimp”, the Democrats are going to hold public “hearings” and do public “investigations”, and then when that public fire is good and hot, impeachment will seem like the only option left, even to a majority of Repugs.
The Democrats have 2 more years to stoke the fires, so the idea is to make sure the bonfire is all-consuming. It takes 2/3 vote of the Senate to impeach, so we’re gonna need about 15 or so Repugs to join in the weenie-roast.
The hardest part will be remaining patient as the fuel is added to the bonfire. Just stock up on marshmellows and you’ll be fine!
OMFG what a pile of shit. Grab a shovel and start digging
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11…..ref=slogin
Mad dogs may be right, but my fire has been burning for awhile!
Go Margot! I’ll screed anytime, anywhere:
I’m jonesing for a bitch-slapping:
How on God’s [formerly] green earth are we talking about dems as compromised (as in he can’t lead, he’s been compromised..) when we are faced with the most hideous malevolent anti-American fascist dictator the population has ever had the misfortune of being infected by? And I’m only talking about the vice-president! Words only sputter out about our Iraqifallacious president.
These are the enablers and the bringers of the new Holocaust in which millions of people are either killed, seriously injured, displaced, contaminated, radiated, infected and oh yes, disaffected.
My brain can’t comprehend why there aren’t emergency impeachment procedures in process right now. Dems and Reps need to throw out these scumbags of history. They’ve administered the coup de grace to our ecosphere.
Damn them.
Whelp, it’s back under the bridge. Gotta collect some sins…er, garbage…er, Carville!
Oh, my poison? Jane’s green tea bubble bath!
Any similarity to George Constanza of the Seinfeld show is purely coincidental – or is it?
Jane Hamsher @ 121
New meme… the Democrats coulda won even more. They keep coming back to Duckworth (”just a little cash from Howard and she woulda won”), but failing to mention that the DCCC had put a lot of her campaign money up front to beat someone that could have torn Roskam a new asshole in the general. Nor mentioning that the DCCC had put $3 mil into her campaign total….
I realize these guys are never going to admit that they’re screw-ups and that the gains did come Dean’s 50-state strategy, but, as we well know from the right wing, if you don’t have the facts on your side, just sling some shit and hope some sticks.
Jane Hamsher @ 121
The little piggy Insiders (Carville in particular) are trying their “best” to defenestrate Howard Dean.
One reason may be that Dean’s legions of State Democratic soldiers ain’t all that thrilled with Billary in 08.
And State Democratic Party caucuses are where the nominating votes come from, and Howard Dean has mucho influence on who joins or is appointed to those State caucuses.
If Carville, Rahm, Chuckles and the rest of the Clintonistas are reading their inside polls right, Hillary “Where’s My Balls” Clinton ain’t a hottie at the State Democratic Party level.
Ta Howard!
There are some serious whackjobs out there, but the situation is made MUCH worse because so many people are economically at the end of their ropes. I simply cannot believe that this guy would be sending anthrax letters if he had a serious love interest, a living-wage job, and a decent shot at a middle-class lifestyle.
My question is, why doesn’t the so-called left offer such a person some hope? Why is a positive economic agenda the very LAST thing a lefty talks about anymore? It was once the FIRST. I haven’t heard a decent discussion of economics on the left for at least 30 years. Why is that?
I have no idea why this troubled man turned to right-wing talk radio to get his ideas for how the world should work. But I DO know that had he tried to get a progressive world-view that actually addressed his REAL needs, he would have had to look in some extremely obscure places.
techno @ 126
All the questions we ask are born out of the answers we already have. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have any questions.
Answers just get in the way.
Jane Hamsher @ 121
Geez, I wish I could remember where I read this- something about the CT races DeLauro, Lamont, Lieberman, Farrell. No googling success so far.
DeLauro (CT-03) is married to Stan Greenberg (mentioned in NYT article), pollster for Lieberman. Some interesting connections in the article, which, dammee, I cannot find. I’m sure I found it via FDL
Off topic and speculative, but I wanted to place a marker, for everyone’s information:
The Libby case may be on its way to trial, with the threat of a graymail dismissal gone. That’s based on trying to read the tea leaves of a major sealed Opinion and three Orders issued late Wednesday by Judge Walton, after his ninth closed-door CIPA hearing. The major sealed Opinion/Order is his CIPA Section 6(a) required written ruling, which itemizes what classified evidence Judge Walton has ruled admissible at trial for Libby (and which may have incorporated new substitutions submitted on Wednesday).
If I’m wrong on the tea leaf reading, which is at least a 50% possibility, it appears that there may be a continuance of the CIPA process until the final submission of a second CIPA Section 6(c) classified-substitution motion that the Judge required of the government. A morning ‘Minute Entry’ on PACER about 11/15’s closed hearing may make that clearer. There is also the possibility that the government is headed to an appeal on the first Section 6(c) motion’s denial.
Reporters: This may be a good time to inquire of the Libby team of lawyers about the status of the case…
I’m cautiously optimistic that Special Counsel Fitzgerald has saved his case, with the help of the Intelligence Community and Judge Walton. But one way or the other, it probably won’t be much longer now before we know for sure whether the January trial is set to proceed, or not.
This, my friends, is EXACTLY the sort of nonsense that shows we are no longer serious about economic injustice. When you say something this bizarre to a long-term unemployed man, you will most certainly drive him to look for someone who can provide an answer–EVEN IF IT IS HOPELESSLY WRONG.
With the mid-term elections only days behind us, the jockeying in the 2008 GOP presidential horse race has already begun. The flood of candidacy announcements and exploratory committees this week includes the predictable (John McCain), the improbable (Tommy Thompson) and the ridiculous (Duncan Hunter).
But this week’s most intriguing prospect may be Rudolph Giuliani, the former mayor of New York and putative hero of 9/11. Polls suggest that Rudy might very well be able to win the general election for the White House. Sadly for Giuliani, it seems almost inconceivable that he could win his party’s nomination.
For the background, see:
“Rudy ‘08: Giuliani Takes the Plunger.”
techno @ 126
I wouldn’t read too much into what is now some very slim and shallow evidence of how this fellow lived.
I don’t disagree that the economy is difficult for more than a few, but we don’t really know jack about this guy.
Moreover, just because the guy is living at home and out of work isn’t reason for him to terrorize the very people who might improve everyone’s lot a bit. There’s something else going on there, and it doesn’t have a damned thing to do with economics.
As for discussions of social economics, they’re everywhere–just look around. I agree that the Dems haven’t been holding up their end of social responsibility for some time, and the DLC view has dominated Dem policy discussions when it is discussed. And, let’s remember who’s been running Congress for twelve years. Anyone wanting to speak on social and economic justice couldn’t get a word in edgewise.
We don’t need rhetoric. We need jobs.
techno @ 127
Say what???
It’s the economy, stupid.
The peace dividend. (something a theory of continuous war against some ill-defined “ism” tries to sidetrack)
Excuse me. Is THIS your idea of a serious discussion about economics?
Oh. My. Gawd.
The last time we had a shot at political power, we got Clinton–a man who was economically FAR to the RIGHT of freaking Nixon. Exactly, how did we offer hope to the depressed and angry???
bonkers @
108
The best way to deal with this is TV – B -Gone a universal remote that can shut off almost every TV. Great in bars, restaurants and other place where Faux New is blaring.
techno — I’ve been unemployed since 2000. How about you? What happened? Outsourcing. Is that a source of hopefulness to the unemployed?
I’d like to see some economic discussion come to pass too, but we’re still in a deflationary trend ala Japan. Not much we can do about demand deflation.
Plus, I enjoy being er, different.
If I start talking about the economy, people will start calling me a communist.
Mad Dogs @
125
Very interesting.
VG — I nexised those names and only came up with one article from the Hartford courant about finances.
Sorry for the long comment, but couldn’t link
Yes TRex, we need jobs. But more than that, we need decent-paying jobs.
(BTW, I LOVE your writing. I am quite envious of your skill.)
Actually, it may be the only one that makes sense. Why else would you immediately start trying to throw a man under a bus in the wake of his greatest victory? They’re trying to take him down before we all start to like him too much.
As usual, though, I think they’re going to shoot themselves in the foot with this message. I think a lot of people regret Dean being cast aside in ‘04 in favor of Disney’s Haunted Tree.
techno @ 135,
Clinton at least gave us FMLA so us depressed angry people could take care of sick kids, spouses who had strokes, and be sick ourselves without losing our jobs. Family Medical Leave Act was a huge help. I know it is unpopular with management but tough shit.
Well, if you really ARE a communist, then I suggest you find better ideas. And if you are something else, a progressive Populist, Institutionalist, Evolutionary Economist, or whatever, then define yourself. Goodness knows you have the ability.
From Jane’s 121:
Yeah, two sentences — the first of which is entirely ungrammatical. And why doesn’t it have a [sic], NYT? Didja use up all your []’s with the [dangerstein] paragraphs?
What happened to the econ discussion? And what’s with the pigeon holes?
Although I agree with techno on one point at least — TRex has a gift for writing.
Cable News Network
Bush’s Asia trip intensifies Iraq-Vietnam comparisons
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush’s recent acknowledgment that the war in Iraq was comparable to the Viet Cong’s psychologically devastating Tet Offensive in 1968 was hardly the first time a parallel has been drawn between the Iraq and Vietnam conflicts.
Questions about a “quagmire” have haunted the president’s Iraq policy since before a single bomb fell on Baghdad.
Cable News Network:Bush receives wary welcome in Asia
In an early embarrassment for Bush, the House failed to approve normalized trade relations with Vietnam — a move Bush wanted completed this week. Instead, Congress probably will consider it in December.
On Friday Bush will travel to Vietnam for the annual summit of 21 Pacific Rim leaders.
TeddySanFran @
145
Very funny, Teddy.
CNN Link 1
CNN Link 2
I’m late to the “debate” re Denton, but I have to say from what I’ve read it’s a real reach to pin her suicide on anything directly related to Malkin et al. The woman was severely depressed and embroiled in controversies of her own.
Margot @ 142
Yes, Clinton did a FEW things right economically. He also gave us NAFTA. Nixon gave us OSHA, EPA, “we are all Keynesians now” etc. So I still say that Nixon was better on economics.
Re Jane Hamsher’s #121 about Adam Joe’sgurney’s NYT hit piece:
We’re in the biggest winter storm in 3 & 1/2 years. The power was out from last night until this evening. Meanwhile, the wind kept gusting to 80 to 100 mph, and the temperature never got above plus 5 degrees F. It will stay like this into Friday afternoon or later. It is a lot of work keeping things together with trees blowing down, pieces of the house flying off, etc.
After we got back on the grid, the NYT and all the other papers had done little but haggle about gossip or make shit up, like in Adam’s article. But during that same time thousands of articles were posted at blogs like this one, and American politics and the national dialogue were enhanced by that.
When I go away from media and electricity for a few days and come back, I see that. Others here have made similar observations. Our networld is evolving rapidly. Meanwhile, the MSM world is atrophying slowly.
They’ll probably start atrophying a lot faster in about two or three years when we get to the point we don’t even have to pay attention to people like Adam JoeGurney’s articles anymore….
I believe in massive tax incentives for businesses offering high-paying domestic jobs, heavy penalties for companies who export jobs, free top-notch health care for everybody and a massive health care training program to create jobs. I would spend as much money on education and research as on the military, but I would also federalize all military manufacturing and services.
I would create a constitutional amendment that bars corporations from accessing politicians except at the level of individual tax-payers. I want a wall between government and business akin to the wall between church and state.
Hmmm, what else?
ccoaler @ 148
My joke about this is that Bush is going to Vietnam, finally, thirty-eight years after he should have. Wonder if he’s going tell jokes about his frat boy days when he was all for someone else going over and killing them.
While he’s there, he’s going to prove that Kerry’s war record is a lie, with the help of the Swift Boat Veterans and O.J. Simpson….
Mad Dogs @ 120,
A few weeks before the election, a small news/debate group I belong to had a post that read something like this:
“Resolved: Bush is a poopy-head.
So what are the Democrats going to do about the war?”
It was like they were crying, “Let us in, Mom! We’re tired of being out with Drunk Daddy!”
We don’t have a lot of time. We don’t have 2 years, at least that’s my take on this. If we let 2 years go by trying to gradually accustom people to the idea, we’re going to lose the 2008 election, I’m afraid.
Remember Murtha. When he spoke out against the war, the people were already there.
Well, I think they’re already thinking about impeachment. After Katrina they were thinking about impeachment.
But then I’m not a political analyst.
via watertiger:
oops.
Looks like Karl got the right WaPo staffer assigned to this beat:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01431.html
techno @
135
At least it is a discussion of the economy as it relates to the average voter. It sets the table, so ideas on what is best can be brought forward.
I’m no huge fan of a lot of Clinton’s economic policies, but on a macro scale I can tell his cuts of the federal deficit left more money in the pockets of Americans than Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy.
Check the graph of the median wage in the US over the last 25 years and the only time it’s gone up was during the Clinton years. Isn’t that the type of result that you’re wanting to see?
ReneND @
95
George Bush is an example of somebody AA could have helped. Beck is an example of somebody AA did too much for.
Much more to it than that, but he scares me too! Unlike Michael Savage, his hate almost comes across as reasonable. He taps into deeper roots. I listened to some of his early radio in Seattle. He really does believe the stuff he spouts, unlike some of the far right talkies.
Economics is my answer. The question is…
Which exerts more influence on the population — politics or economics?
My reasoning stems from the notion that economic issues are day to day living problems. Politics seems to be tied to something less periodic. Except at FDL where it’s 24/7. Hooray!
But that’s just one bum’s opinion.
punaise @ 150
I only learned the MM-Denton connection from TRex tonight, having seen much written in the Bay Area papers about the death without one of them mentioning the Malkin issue. I am not qualified to ascribe reasons for any suicide, but who is?
And the interval is mercilessly brief — MM exhorted her winged monkeys in April; the Chancellor plunged in June.
One thing that can be done to help the working poor, and for fairly short money, is improving housing policy, and putting that back into priority. There’s probably a better way than the old monolithic model of the projects, but, for sure, not nearly enough has gotten done since the big, big cuts in HUD since the Reagan years.
Look at any overheated local economy and the service workers are living in their cars. Those are good places to start.
here in Berkeley “unhinged” has no real impact. per local building code, we all have strings of beads hanging in our doorways.
I must spend less time on the blog. Did you know there was an earthquake off the coast of Japan this morning that resulted in 1000mph waves that arrived on the California coast this afternoon, causing tsunami surges between 2 and 6 feet from Santa Cruz north to Crescent City????
See, neither did I!
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/…..a.tsunami/
TRex @
153
I would like it if teh gayz could marry!
Oh, that’s a given. Also, any policies directed toward controlling public morality would have to be justified to me in economic terms. If you can show me that outlawing abortions is cheaper in the long run for the country (it isn’t, of course), then we’ll outlaw them. Same with birth control.
TeddySanFran @ 161
I really shouldn’t say more before reading the comments thread.
Winston Smith arrived at the USDA today, and no Americans are hungry because of it. They now have either “low food security” or “very low food security.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01621.html
Jane Hamsher @
121
In the future, can any links to Adam Nagourney be in a special color or something? The page opened, and I felt like I’d just accidentally clicked on a porn site at work or something.
Margot @ 155
I’m not disagreeing with you at all Margot. What I am saying is that I believe that a few Democratic somebodies got “subtle” about going after Impeachment.
For the purposes of the 06 Midterm elections, Nancy Pelosi “deliberately” took impeachment off the table (for public comsumption) simply because it was a Repug-base energizer.
That in no way means that impeachment is not the real goal.
I believe that starting this January when the Democrats assume their Committee Chairmanships in both the House and the Senate, we will see very public hearings and investigations in selected areas that the Democrats believe will have the most negative political impact on Junya and crew.
I’m not saying that you’ll have to wait 2 years for the end result (though I’m sure some Democrats would love to stretch Junya’s misery out until the 08 elections).
I believe that folks who remember the Watergate hearings will look back at them as “quaint” to use a phrase that Abu Gonzales is fond of.
The Junya and Crew hearings will be blockbusters if the Democrats stick to their guns. You may witness in your lifetime, the total and final destruction of the Repug party.
Get yourself some popcorn and stay tuned! The show is about to begin.
So our first major action item is a takedown of Carville? Anyone wanna give the party over to the hack brigade just yet?
SF Chronicle
If you’re still up (I will be for hours; the basement flooded and our landlord seems to think running a loud industrial shopvac compressor directly beneath my bed all nite will drain his problem) don’t miss Watertiger’s 2006: A Laced Odyssey foto (scroll down):
http://derenegade.blogspot.com/
I guess folks just want easy answers like …
“stay the course”…
I rephrased the Denton bit:
Does that suit everyone?
TRex @ 175
that seems fair and balanced. :~)
(wasn’t trying to hound you, TRex)
No.
I would like it to say that MM killed the Chancellor, and devil take the hindmost. Who knows that MM didn’t push Denton off the ledge? Were you there? Did you see MM not push her?
from the Ad Nags piece:
wasn’t Fowler originally in the running for the DNC job that Dean eventually won?
TeddySanFran @ 177
well, gosh, now that you put it that way….
Incidentally, there’s a last paragraph in the “no more hunger in America article I especially liked:
The paragraph follows a summary of the history of the timing of the report, including accusations by Preznichal Wannabe Junja that the report was fabricated:
“highest circles?” W wasn’t in the “highest circles” when running for Preznit, unless they mean…..
Ed*ard Teller @
152
I agree! Thanks to updates from ET I knew about shenanigans in Alaska. All the comment threads at FDL are well worth reading, one of several reasons this is my fave blog. I haven’t watched tv news in quite a few years, don’t read the papers much unless a blog provides a link. The “liberal” papers are hardly worth using as litter box liner, the really wingnutty rags are too toxic to let near my lungs (or my kitties’ tender tushies).
Environment is my single biggest concern…without a viable planet we’re all SOL. Economics is a close second, tired of being unemployed, underemployed, overqualified, underpaid, etc. I used to joke several years ago that I wanted a Republican-type job, i.e., overpaid, overfed, underworked, and underqualified. Then I’d add the punch line “but alas, I’m too honest and hardworking.” The Rethug corruption stench has been so bad that I haven’t made that joke in a year or two.
Well, *hums* Happy Days Are Here Again. My personal finances are always much better when the Dems are in charge. Not as big many big oceanliners brazenly tossing boulders into my little boat.
TeddySanFran @ 177
There was an awful lot of talk about it…
I love your comments, NDFG,
Tell the truth. Are you SURE you’re not Molly Ivins?
TRex @ 182
Was I not clear? I am on your side, as always, but especially on this one, theropod.
TSF:
That was meant to be in Karl Rove’s voice. I *didn’t* see MM not push that woman off a building. And someone was just asking me if I was SURE MM wasn’t there that day. For all I know, she could have been…
Uh.
Mah.
Gawd.
She’s a murderess.
I believe lack of medical insurance or options led to my 42-yr-old brother’s suicide…had heart problems, unemployed, and I think he was worried that my elderly parents would feel they should pay his hospital bills. My ex’s younger brother also committed suicide due in part to lack of affordable medical care.
Suicide is heartrending for the survivors, i think our nation’s unwillingness to have national health care is a disgrace.
TRex @ 183
Thank you! She’s one of my personal superstars. Wow! what a compliment!
There was something so Molly about that metaphor. And given that she’s an old school Populist, I thought maybe I had just busted you, Molly Ivins, lurking, Miss New Deal.
But I still love you, even if you’re not Molly I.
Can I sleep with this thrumming sound under my bed? gonna try. ‘nite, firedoggies!
TRex @
183
She reminds me more of my sister, who loves Molly.
NDFG is right, too, about the environment being so very important. Looking at the right-hand column rundown of fdl topics, environment gets 18 entries, the same as gay rights – which is important too.
But compare that to censure (47 entries) or YKos (25). It might be time to enlist support of somebody with pach’s energy and credentials, for instance, to post here weekly on the environment. Believe me, it will be an increasingly important issue every month of our lives…
Me, I worry about the oceans. But that’s just me. I worry about coral bleaching and decreased salination because of so much melting ice. Increased water temperatures and disruption of wildlife patterns.
And don’t get me started on deep water sonar.
And on that note, I am off to bed. Good night.
TRex @
138
“Hello my friend, are you visible today?
You know I never knew that it could be so strange…strange
Hello, I’m sorry, I lost myself
I think I thought you were someone else
Should we talk about the weather? (Hi…hi, hi)
Should we talk about the government? (Hi…hi, hi, hi)”
punaise @
178
Yes.
thanks
Wish I had time to comment on lots of interesting bits in this thread, but lacking that, here’s a link to a great editorial on the “Class Struggle” in Wednesday’s WSJ (of all places).
http://www.opinionjournal.com/…..=110009246
This piece was written by our new economic populist senator, James Webb of Virginia, and reveals where he plans to fire his first volleys on Capitol Hill.
It’s a truly rousing editorial — evocative, IMO, of the inspiring voice of FDR — and insistent on social justice.
If you haven’t seen it yet, enjoy! I haven’t seen anyone address the gross chasm of inequity between the poor and the obscenely wealthy this directly and forcefully in a while.– not in such a forum as the WSJ, anyway. And to point to the injustice as systemic and structural (while being obvious to us) is bold for such a venue.
Jim Webb is calling out the pigs at the trough — and spelling out exactly where it will lead in terms of social unrest.
Hate to post and run, but I’m exhausted. I enjoyed reading this thread, y’all! Good night and sweet dreams of justice, dear Firepups! The fight continues…
Ed*ard Teller @
190
I couldn’t agree more. The Rethug rape of the environment sickens me, morally, spiritually, and physically. I was thrilled to see/hear Gore take a strong stand.
I worry about the oceans, I worry about the forests and jungles, I worry about the very dirt we walk upon. Well. I do what I can, support local organic-type family farms, buy local produce whenever possible, garden for as much diversity of wildlife as possible. Teach my kids and grandson to love bugs, worms and bats.
Jeez Louise –
I wonder why my comment is in moderation! And I did so want my link to Jim Webb’s bold economic populist editorial in the Wall St Journal to show up before absolutely everybody else went to bed.
Oh well.
Good night, my dears! Hope someone catches the rousing to-the-barricades-for-social-justice piece by Webb later.
It’s really inspiring and such a good sign of hope — that such a piece was even published by the Wall St Journal is amazing to me.
Off to bed now. Sleep tight, everybody!
Hmmm.
Let me just see if I can just get this link in here without getting stuck in moderation.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/…..=110009246
Do read it, it’s wonderful. Jim Webb is surprising me, in very good ways.
Mrs. K8 @ 195
Here’s what Billmon had to say about the Webb editorial. Mucho funno….
Well lookie what MYDD has up – Senate seats up in ‘08 and their latest SUSA tracking polls – the list is favorable/unfavorable. Check out the top – Lautenberg, then:
Inhofe, R-OK: 40%–49%
Allard, R-CO: 42%–46%
Cornyn, R-TX: 40%–43%
Alexander, R-TN: 46%–42%
Coleman, R-MN: 49%–44%
Roberts, R-KS: 47%–42%
Mrs. K8 @ 197
Nice get. There are some good “floor speech” moments in there.
Speaking of which, anyone else see Kerry @ the podium 11/14? Painful.
Sorry, I’m still hung up on the start:
“This incident gives us a valuable look into the mindset of the sad, lonely men who read Pajamas Media and the threat they pose to American society.”
“The kind of solipsistic, eliminationist rhetoric these people trade in has a particular appeal to disaffected angry young men who are socially isolated and bursting with undirected rage.”
Of course, it’s the men. Even when they only do what women tell them to do, it’s still their (the men’s) fault. No woman would ever be sad, lonely, dissaffected, socially isolated, or bursting with rage. And even if she were, she’d never do something bad (e.g. poisoning her tenants [Sacramento],drowning all the children [multiple incidents], etc.). Men are so bad, so weak, and such a threat. Can’t we blame them for pretty much everything? Would Ms. Coulter and Ms. Malkin agree? What would Dr. (sic) Ingraham recommend?
If the issue is one of poisoning (or its threat), or of mindlessly following another’s lead, can we at least agree that both genders are equally capable? culpable? (pardon to Lucretcia Borgia who may have been guilty of one but certainly not the other).
Apparently firefighter and letter carrier must be gender neutral, but terrorist and murderer must remain masculine.
Was the WaPoo trying to be cutsie with the wording of this?
Eleven million of them reported going hungry at times. Beginning this year, the USDA has determined “very low food security” to be a more scientifically palatable description for that group.
Bet the f*cker who choose those words has never been hungery.
Sorry for the Y Chromosome @ 200
Okay, sure–if both sexes are more or less equally represented in such acts. Recent history–at least that which we hear about, even briefly, in the news are overwhelmingly men of early middle age or younger who act out their anger about the magnified wrongs they harbor.
If these particular hate crimes were more equally distributed between women and men, I’m sure it would be noted, but, they don’t seem to be.
Malkin “Unhinged ” more projection by the right of their ideas and what they fear they would do in our postion. After all conforming is one of the values she strives for DEEP DOWN she assumes everyone wants to act and think her way. However on the conscious level she thinks we are unhinged because we think being different is cool we don’t want to conform. In all fairness lots of (not all) minority kids at one time or another wish they were white my guess is she never outgrew washing her hands to try and get the color out. Her frustration at not being white shows in her anger at people who have the courage to be differnt/go against the group. An intervention of positive racial awarness/pride is in order!
Are not Demagouges people who stir up the masses to try and change society granted the right wants to stop our rather tolerant society from being even more tolerant. They demonize gays use imigrants as scapegoats, all the while investing in companies that use imigrant labour wallmart, macdonalds its easy to fake a green card if nobody checks the numbers, what a bunch of hipocrites. Muslims after 9/11, Jews traditional enemies of strict Jesus freaks, Liberals are all scapegoats enemies that must be defeated. Why must the insecure FIND enemies in their paranoia? Because they rule by fear itself! They fear and must find names to justify it!
montag @ 203
In all the years of a human life from birth onward, the most dangerous year, in terms of being murdered, is the first year. The most likely killer is the mother.
Did you even notice that Malkin, Coulter, and Ingraham were women? Or were you just making my point?
Mornin’. Anybody awake?
Mornin egregious. Off to bed finally. If you haven’t been to TBogg and you need a hearty laugh, this is it. Night all.
Was trying to look up a post from February and the month is missing from our Wayback Machine…?
Good morning, everyone.
Today’s NYT columnists, from behind the firewall:
http://select.nytimes.com/2006…..amp;emc=th
David Brooks, “The Heyday of Snobbery.”
http://select.nytimes.com/2006…..amp;emc=th
Bob Herbert, “A Story of Struggle and Hope.”
Not from behind the firewall, but an editorial of some importance:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11…..ref=slogin
“Counting the Vote, Badly.”
Suzanne @
202
This joins the annals of crap like “collateral damage,” which is, I’m sure “a more palatable description” for that group than “dead non-combatants.” Snarl.
Further to Suzanne @ 202:
It turns out it’s not that WaPo. It’s our very own USDA:
http://usfoodpolicy.blogspot.com/
How typical. GOP doesn’t want “hungry” people, so, gosh, let’s make them merely “insecure.” Re-SNARL.
http://cagle.msnbc.com/politic…..rffius.asp
From one of my favorite political cartoonists, John Sherffius, re. POX & the OJ Simpson special. Couldn’t find a permalink but ‘toon is dated 11-15-06.
Well, I’m off in the gray, cloudy morning to work. Have a great day, folks.
Morning, Firepups!
Warm and drizzling here in central Jersey, with lots of rain on the way.
Coffee’s brewing, and I’m heading out for bagels. Mugs are on the counter, so help yourselves.
Work for peace, every day.
Social/Economic justice is on the Dem radar. Webb and Tester both seem to be of the populist mindset,wanting the little guy to be able to rise up and join the middle class. The system in place now is very destructive and dishonest,it is also global,it won’t be fixed overnight.
IMO the answers lie in local economies. Taking back our food supply from megaconglomorate agribuisness is one place to start. We are far too dependant on resources outside our communities for food. Most cities and suburbs are one disaster away from massive numbers of people starving to death.
Farm subsidies do not go to family farmers,they go to ADM,Monsanto and others. Monoplanting of crops is another issue,most of our farmland is planted with corn and soybeans,a waste of resources. This also does environmental damage and depletes our precious topsoil of nutrients.
Before the use of chemicals in warfare,EVERY farm was organic. Those same chemicals found their way into agriculture,and farmers were sold a bill of goods in the name of”progress”. This nonsense of organic food being more expensive and harder to produce has hurt us. We were at one time able to feed ourselves from local sources,if the public will was there,we could do it again without destroying our landbase.
My hope is that some of our new Dem Senators and Reps will be taken seriously on these matters beginning in January. Taking back our food supply is a key in restoring some economic justice in this country. Restoring family farms to their rightful place in our culture would go a long way to righting some of these wrongs.
Frances Moore Lappe’ and the Small Planet Institute have been doing great work on this,Lappe’s books Democracy’s Edge and Hope’s Edge address this issue(and others)in more detail. There are many success stories that tell of people who got tired of waiting for their government to catch up,rolled up their sleeves and did it without the government. It can be done,we just have to have the will and tenacity to do it.
Head over to Atlas Shrugs. Ms Pammy has ended her last post with the statement “Kill all the diplomats before they kill us.” Where does one report threats like these? This woman needs to be locked up now.
I wonder who pays her to do this.
Ahh Pammy,the gift of sewage that keeps on giving.
I think these folks KNOW they’ve got violent on the edge followers that are more than a few ants shy of a picnic. They just want someone to do their dirty work for them. What’s one or a dozen or thousands dead liberals in their grand scheme of things? Life is cheap to them. They’re insulated from the consequences of the hate and eliminationism they spew daily. I’m honestly surprised someone like the Fake Anthrax dude hasn’t surfaced sooner.
I wonder how many people have been hurt as a result of this crap that we don’t know about? No one ever did find out who sent the REAL anthrax that actually did kill someone.
In Rwanda,hate radio played a HUGE role in inciting and encouraging the genocide there. One of the key radio personalities on the air at the time was found guilty of war crimes even though he never lifted a finger to kill anyone.
Advocating the deaths of other Americans is UN-American. Period.
njprogressive @ 215
When is it going to stop raining inthe NE? I feel like I’n Bladerunner with the unrelenting grey weather.
1,336 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Firepup Paqtriots:
It’s a great day ta be a progressive!! Let’s recharge watchin’ the fascists and their DINO fellow corporatists scurry like overfed rats in a well lit cheese factory…
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, LOTS A FIGHTIN’ BEFORE THE FIGHTIN’ IS DONE!!
Yeah, but what about OJ? C’mon terrorism isn’t important. OJ is confessing, well kinda. What’s the latest on OJ?
Peace!
Monk @
217
Isn’t an Ambassador to the UN a “diplomat?”
Mornin’ pups. Although I disagree with just about everything I have heard out of the harpy che Harpy Choir (malkin, coulter, ingram, pammy), I will defens to the death, their right to say it.
I believe that free and open expression is good. I also believe we can freely and openly criticize them.
Ed*ard Teller @
152
This is why everyone to the right of FDL is attacking Dean, the NetRoots, etc. Fear. They can see the writing on the wall and are doing everything in their power to head it off at the pass.
We’re living in an absolutely f*cked up world if there is no investigation of that chancellor’s suicide. The chancellor Denise Denton committed suicide, but the harrassment contributing to it has a hate crime aspect.
At first I thought Malkkin was just your average unhinged loony right-winger. Now I am beginning to think she is a criminally insane agitator, happy to create her own adhoc little gestapo culled from the flotsam and jetsam and likeminded criminally insane and psychopathic types that read her blog.
BTW. In Wicked, the wicked witch is actually an animal rights activist and far more admirable.
Mornin’, FirePups. A little lagniappe for you, brought tears of joy to my eyes:
Redstate: 50-state strategy “destroyed” Delaware GOP
Thank you, thank you, Dr. Dean.
And I dig the little ditty at the end of the post.
mui, Elphaba was also in a fight against an oppressive regime if I recall. I haven’t read Wicked in awhile,so my memory is a bit faded. I love that book though. Have you read the sequel,Son of a Witch? I was wondering if it was any good.
An Angry Old Broad @ 229
Nah, in my free time though I want to read some other books by this author. I just happened to be browsing a used book store and picked up Wicked and couldn’t put it down because it had so much relevance I think to politics.
Rayne–Voted for ” masterpiece” on Daily Kos.
Ed*ard Teller 152 — hope the winds die down sooner rather than later in your neck of the woods, sounds wicked wintry there.
You are right about the dwindling of the MSM in comparison to the vibrancy of the networld. This same phenomenon also exists in other broadcast mediums, too; television execs want to know where all the young people are, dropping off like flies.
The ultimate program is one you make yourself; the next ultimate program is one you choose yourself and can participate in at the same time. Hence Google snapping up YouTube, even though they already owned Google Video; they could see that YouTube had a simpler, easier interface that encouraged participation far more readily of all kinds of people. Had anyone of the MSM grokked this, that participation is the key, they’d have seen that a vehicle like YouTube could provide them with both programming and the participatory audience at the same time.
But the MSM either didn’t see the connection, or they quibbled about the money. Or both — in which case they are clearly no longer players.
How much longer before Google and/or Yahoo are major news outlets in their own rights? I’ve already placed my bet since I hold GOOG in the kids’ college fund. I don’t own any MSM/TradMed stocks, though. Losers.
sanitas @ 224
Maybe they had a spat.
Fresh thread, gang. Morning!
montag @
154
Ed*ward Teller – Totally OT, I have noticed an unusual reverse simbiotic relationship between weather in Alaska and Minnesota. When Alaska is, well Alaska cold, Minnesota is mild for winter. When Minnesota goes into the deep freeze with gales coming straight from the pole it seems, Alaska is 35 above 0 on a January day.
Odd Isn’t it? {Confession – I know nothing above weather)
And last, I enjoyed reading the Red State take on Dean’s 50 state strategy and the results exhibited so wonderfully in Delaware.
Enjoyed the article. Sad state of affairs in our country when not many notice this type of “conditioning”. Good reminder of the 3 “attitudinal clusters” of right wing authoritarianism referred to in post 36
Um,Question…
Does this mean that Castagana will be subject to the Military Commissions Act? Will he be disappeared and kept in isolation without resourses or an attorney?
Back to lurking.
How does al-Sadr get lumped in with Coulter the American right and Hitler? Please provide links to Al-Sadr’s eliminationist rhetoric.