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		<title>By: RiverRed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384606</link>
		<dc:creator>RiverRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s not how you used the term “loser” Jane.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And now you are a post-election prognosticator on IL-06 by saying Duckworth was never going to win. That’s pretty insightful one week &lt;b&gt;after&lt;/b&gt; the election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Howard’s 50 state strategy was so successful and Rahm’s misplaced, how come the Dems took three Congressional seats in IN but lost every statewide office. It seems like the House candidates had the money &amp; organization and the state candidates didn’t get enough lift from the Dean operation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.</p>
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<p>That’s not how you used the term “loser” Jane.</p>
<p>And now you are a post-election prognosticator on IL-06 by saying Duckworth was never going to win. That’s pretty insightful one week <b>after</b> the election.</p>
<p>If Howard’s 50 state strategy was so successful and Rahm’s misplaced, how come the Dems took three Congressional seats in IN but lost every statewide office. It seems like the House candidates had the money &amp; organization and the state candidates didn’t get enough lift from the Dean operation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384523</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 07:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-384495&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Greg Luce @&lt;br /&gt;
                157              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“I wanted Bay Buchanan to offer him a hankie tell him not to worry, Rahm would only have flushed more money down the shitter to follow the $4 million he threw after losers Diane Farrell and Tammy Duckworth,”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jane, while I enjoy and share many of your  perspectives and opinions, you lost me on this one. Calling Ms. Duckworth a loser, and then trying to hide it…it’s so very Hannityish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ms. Duckworth lost her race, ’tis true; but, she is no loser.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She may be a lovely human being but she was never going to win that race and that was what the post was about, nothing more and nothing less. Propping up straw men is so very Hannityish.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-384495"><em>Greg Luce @<br />
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<blockquote><p>“I wanted Bay Buchanan to offer him a hankie tell him not to worry, Rahm would only have flushed more money down the shitter to follow the $4 million he threw after losers Diane Farrell and Tammy Duckworth,”</p>
<p>“I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.”</p>
<p>Jane, while I enjoy and share many of your  perspectives and opinions, you lost me on this one. Calling Ms. Duckworth a loser, and then trying to hide it…it’s so very Hannityish.</p>
<p>Ms. Duckworth lost her race, ’tis true; but, she is no loser.</p>
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<p>She may be a lovely human being but she was never going to win that race and that was what the post was about, nothing more and nothing less. Propping up straw men is so very Hannityish.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Luce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384495</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Luce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“I wanted Bay Buchanan to offer him a hankie tell him not to worry, Rahm would only have flushed more money down the shitter to follow the $4 million he threw after losers Diane Farrell and Tammy Duckworth,”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jane, while I enjoy and share many of your  perspectives and opinions, you lost me on this one. Calling Ms. Duckworth a loser, and then trying to hide it…it’s so very Hannityish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ms. Duckworth lost her race, ’tis true; but, she is no loser.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I wanted Bay Buchanan to offer him a hankie tell him not to worry, Rahm would only have flushed more money down the shitter to follow the $4 million he threw after losers Diane Farrell and Tammy Duckworth,”</p>
<p>“I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.”</p>
<p>Jane, while I enjoy and share many of your  perspectives and opinions, you lost me on this one. Calling Ms. Duckworth a loser, and then trying to hide it…it’s so very Hannityish.</p>
<p>Ms. Duckworth lost her race, ’tis true; but, she is no loser.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384430</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-384174&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;RiverRed @&lt;br /&gt;
                152              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wow Jane,, you are on a real roll here. Yesterday peddling some trash story about Obama and now calling Tammy Duckworth a loser. Tammy just celebrated her “I’m Alive 4 year anniversary Sunday.” I bet Tammy may have a different perspective on winners and losers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After reading your blog for about a year now, the only thing I come away with that you believe in are lost causes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-384174"><em>RiverRed @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Wow Jane,, you are on a real roll here. Yesterday peddling some trash story about Obama and now calling Tammy Duckworth a loser. Tammy just celebrated her “I’m Alive 4 year anniversary Sunday.” I bet Tammy may have a different perspective on winners and losers.</p>
<p>After reading your blog for about a year now, the only thing I come away with that you believe in are lost causes.</p>
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<p>I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384429</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-384067&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;p.lukasiak @&lt;br /&gt;
                126              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;serious prediction….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in under three months, Carville will be in rehab, and blaming his “crazy” statements on booze/pills….&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think you may be on to something.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-384067"><em>p.lukasiak @<br />
                126              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>serious prediction….</p>
<p>in under three months, Carville will be in rehab, and blaming his “crazy” statements on booze/pills….</p>
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<p>I think you may be on to something.</p>
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		<title>By: PwapVt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384358</link>
		<dc:creator>PwapVt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 03:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s a better question, Chuckie: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where do you get off listing Bernie Sanders as   &lt;b&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; success? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Carville will shut up once someone asks him how he would feel about Dean, free from the DNC &amp; the deal he made not to run in 08, running against Hillary. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Carville is one creepy guy. &lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a better question, Chuckie: </p>
<p>Where do you get off listing Bernie Sanders as   <b>your</b> success? </p>
<p>Carville will shut up once someone asks him how he would feel about Dean, free from the DNC &amp; the deal he made not to run in 08, running against Hillary. </p>
<p>Carville is one creepy guy. <em></em><em></em></p>
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		<title>By: della Rovere</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384194</link>
		<dc:creator>della Rovere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-384023&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @&lt;br /&gt;
                88              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;For those not familiar with a nutria, think BIG rat. Kind of like a beaver without the flat tail.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in nearby GA the problem is Newt-rhea&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;beautiful&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-384023"><em>punaise @<br />
                88              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>For those not familiar with a nutria, think BIG rat. Kind of like a beaver without the flat tail.</em></p>
<p>in nearby GA the problem is Newt-rhea</p>
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<p>beautiful</p>
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		<title>By: RiverRed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384174</link>
		<dc:creator>RiverRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow Jane,, you are on a real roll here. Yesterday peddling some trash story about Obama and now calling Tammy Duckworth a loser. Tammy just celebrated her “I’m Alive 4 year anniversary Sunday.” I bet Tammy may have a different perspective on winners and losers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After reading your blog for about a year now, the only thing I come away with that you believe in are lost causes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Jane,, you are on a real roll here. Yesterday peddling some trash story about Obama and now calling Tammy Duckworth a loser. Tammy just celebrated her “I’m Alive 4 year anniversary Sunday.” I bet Tammy may have a different perspective on winners and losers.</p>
<p>After reading your blog for about a year now, the only thing I come away with that you believe in are lost causes.</p>
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		<title>By: darkblack</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384119</link>
		<dc:creator>darkblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-384086&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @&lt;br /&gt;
                143              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
You know the punchline I’m thinking of, don’t you?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Six inches!”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;‘Pinocchio tells the lies, while I lays back and sighs’&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-384086"><em>Rayne @<br />
                143              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
You know the punchline I’m thinking of, don’t you?</p>
<p>“Six inches!”</p>
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<p><em>‘Pinocchio tells the lies, while I lays back and sighs’</em></p>
<p>;&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/carvilles-new-gig/#comment-384106</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-384064&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 123 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Murtha &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001999.php&quot;&gt;&lt;strike&gt;back-pedals on&lt;/strike&gt;&lt;/a&gt; clarifies “ethics reform is total crap” statement:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
With one eye on the coveted House Majority Leader spot and another on reports he recently called an ethics reform effort “total crap,” Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) took to Hardball tonight to say his piece.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“What I said was, it’s total crap, the idea we have to deal with an issue like this, when. . . we’ve got a war going on and we got all these other issues,” Murtha told host Chris Matthews.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A Roll Call article today quoted Murtha saying of a Democratic ethics reform package, “Even though I think it’s total crap, I’ll vote for it and pass it because that’s what Nancy wants.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What Murtha fails to appreciate here is that the issues at hand are not Iraq &lt;em&gt;or&lt;/em&gt; corruption. It’s all of a piece. Bush started this as a war for the corrupt, run by the corrupt, and in the service of their corruption. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the same reason I grimaced last week at the “GOP lost because of corruption, not the war” meme. You can’t pull one of these strings without finding the other.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-384064"><em>punaise @ 123 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Murtha <a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001999.php"><strike>back-pedals on</strike></a> clarifies “ethics reform is total crap” statement:</p>
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With one eye on the coveted House Majority Leader spot and another on reports he recently called an ethics reform effort “total crap,” Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) took to Hardball tonight to say his piece.</p>
<p>“What I said was, it’s total crap, the idea we have to deal with an issue like this, when. . . we’ve got a war going on and we got all these other issues,” Murtha told host Chris Matthews.</p>
<p>A Roll Call article today quoted Murtha saying of a Democratic ethics reform package, “Even though I think it’s total crap, I’ll vote for it and pass it because that’s what Nancy wants.”</p>
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<p>What Murtha fails to appreciate here is that the issues at hand are not Iraq <em>or</em> corruption. It’s all of a piece. Bush started this as a war for the corrupt, run by the corrupt, and in the service of their corruption. </p>
<p>This is the same reason I grimaced last week at the “GOP lost because of corruption, not the war” meme. You can’t pull one of these strings without finding the other.</p>
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