FITZ! And FDL!!

Almost… Hello all! Long time no chat. I’ve been away dealing with family stuff but I’m coming back online today.

Great piece about Carville by the way. This guy is quickly turning himself into a punchline. I just wonder how long it will take the media to “get the joke”. If ever…

It’s time the Dems saw the light and chained him up in a cave somewhere. We don’t need him whispering strategy and secrets in his wee wife’s shell pink ear in the deep still watches of the night.

Mr. Mary Matalin !

EPU’d:

punaise @
85

Salon.com War Room:

Carville: Dean’s leadership “Rumsfeldian”

James Carville’s plan to replace Howard Dean with failed Senate candidate Harold Ford, Jr. may have failed, but that doesn’t seem to have stopped the former Clinton strategist’s campaign against the DNC chair.

Today, Carville is off telling reporters that Dean’s leadership is “Rumsfeldian in its competence,” and that if Dean had just listened to the often-abrasive southerner and spent $6 million the DNC had on hand then the Democrats could have picked up as many as 50 House seats, roughly 20 more than they’ve won to date. And yes, Carville still wants to see Dean replaced.

Snarkalicious as always, JH. Carville’s descent into irrelevance is almost sad to watch. Thanks for making it funny, too.

Every time I see Carville I cannot suppress thinking of “Alien.”
_

hey Nate!

wrt “Rumsfeldian:” Mr. Matalin seems to have aced that Projection 101 class offered to GOP spouses. I bet his study partner is Lynne Cheney.

Seems like you’ve all had enough of Carville.

;>)

The difference between Rumsfeld and Dean is the difference between failure and success.

Carville is the caricature that has doomed the Dem party since ‘94. These consultants need to take a hike.

I have been told, “If you build it he will come”.

Can we agree on, “If you don’t listen to them, they will go away”.

punaise @ 8

hey Nate!

Aloha punaise… Always good to see you.

So did I miss anything this week? :)

Leave a birthday greeting/thank you for Howard Dean by clicking the Birthday Flat Howard here.

hey Carville: “It’s the ignominy, stupid!”

Here’s the Austin Statesman link to “Rumsfeldian” for those who’d rather skip the Glenn Beck ad that’s the admit price to Salon today:

http://www.statesman.com/blogs…..ays_d.html

Loads kinda slow, but beats watching Glenn….

Nate @ 12

So did I miss anything this week? :)

oh, you know, little bit of this, little bit of that.

Fun trivia: James Carville is from Carville, Louisiana. The town’s other claim to fame is that it was home to the last hospital in the US that specialized in the treatment and care of people with leprosy (Hansen’s disease). The hospital is now closed (sometime in the early 90’s, iirc) but there’s a museum there related to the disease.

Where do you find these photos? I would never have thought of darth vader playing the squeezebox. Abramoff vieleicht, but not Mr. Matalin. Squeezebox, isn’t that what Hillary’s campaign reform is trying to erlimerlate?

Terry in Maryland @ 17

Fun trivia: James Carville is from Carville, Louisiana.

coulda sworn he was from Bumfuck

darkblack @ 10

Seems like you’ve all had enough of Carville.

;>)

The difference between Rumsfeld and Dean is the difference between failure and success.

Dude, so right on! And the illustration completely rocks.

Bye bye Piss poor Democratic “Strategists” even if you are from Louisiana.

TSF’s Paradox: Having a new darkblack favorite every single day!

punaise @ 19

Terry in Maryland @ 17

Fun trivia: James Carville is from Carville, Louisiana.

coulda sworn he was from Bumfuck

I thought that was in Egypt… :)

Hey, don’t diss Mary Matalin like that. She’s made camel-toe popular again.

Yeah, James has been off the reservation for quite some time. Living with the she-devil has gotten to him. I happened to see Carville on Connecticut Avenue when I was visiting last April (I grew up in DC–Bay Buchanan was my best friend in high school–obviously, no longer). Anyway, my sister had to pull me away from the domed-one–I really wanted to tell him off. What a waste he is–a total sell-out to the Sally Quinn cocktail and weenie crowd. DC is certainly a good place to be from.

Sparkles the Iguana @ 24

Hey, don’t diss Mary Matalin like that. She’s made camel-toe popular again.

What, between the eyebrows?

;>)

TeddySanFran @ 15

for those who’d rather skip the Glenn Beck ad that’s the admit price to Salon today

sorry ’bout that!

Best post in awhile Jane. Damn, I can’t stand Carville. The Gimp visual is perfect!

Sparkles the Iguana @ 24

Hey, don’t diss Mary Matalin like that. She’s made camel-toe popular again.

More mind bleach, STAT!

oh, darkblack, you rascal….

scory @ 20

darkblack @ 10

Seems like you’ve all had enough of Carville.

;>)

The difference between Rumsfeld and Dean is the difference between failure and success.

Dude, so right on! And the illustration completely rocks.

Great stuff DB. Gonna have to borrow that one for a later post about this nitwit if he keeps gassing up the airwaves.

By the way, in the same LoR spirit, did you see the picture for Lord of the Roots?

It sure puts Carville and Dean’s roles in this election in perspective.

“Rumsfeldian in its competence”…Why, that’s almost Coulterian in its hyperbole.

;>)

LOL darkblack

Bustednuckles @ 29

Sparkles the Iguana @ 24

Hey, don’t diss Mary Matalin like that. She’s made camel-toe popular again.

More mind bleach, STAT!

I can make it worse: Carville picking up the morning papers in a shorty robe, his stovepipe legs whiter than the terrycloth.

I’ve lived with the image for ten years now. I just had to share.

Terry in Maryland @ 17

Fun trivia: James Carville is from Carville, Louisiana. The town’s other claim to fame is that it was home to the last hospital in the US that specialized in the treatment and care of people with leprosy (Hansen’s disease). The hospital is now closed (sometime in the early 90’s, iirc) but there’s a museum there related to the disease.

Do you mean a Hansen’s Disease museum, or a James Carville Disease museum?

Nate @ 31

By the way, in the same LoR spirit, did you see the picture for Lord of the Roots?

It sure puts Carville and Dean’s roles in this election in perspective.

That was a good one indeed, Nate…And I certainly can’t take credit for originating the Carville-as-gollum meme … Mr. and Mrs. Carville, will you stand up, please?

;>)

I need a score card I agree with Jane, Carville, and Rahm are jerks but do these guys still speak for Bill? I thought that FDL and the rest of the blogs met with Bill to agree on a plan? Are Carville and Rahm playing for their own team? is Bill calling the shots? Where does Hilary fit in all this? All I really care about is getting our troops out of Iraq and Healthcare for everyone! I’m tired of games!

I can make it worse: Carville picking up the morning papers in a shorty robe, his stovepipe legs whiter than the terrycloth.

I’ve lived with the image for ten years now. I just had to share.

So you’re Mary Matalin?? Or just the next door neighbor?

darkblack @ 36

… Mr. and Mrs. Carville, will you stand up, please?

That would be Mr. Morgoth Carville and Mrs. Sauron Carville, of course.

oops: watertiger link

punaise @ 40

oops: watertiger link

OT: is it just me, or does Mary Matalin talk without moving her chin. What is that, too much make-up, or is her jaw wired shut?

Totally O/T -

First clear paparazzi pic of Madonna’s new adopted African kid.
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Dean downs Carville on Fox @ C&L:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..silliness/

scory @ 34, please, not right before the dinner hour!

Carville and Matalin are all about the wonders of Carville and Matalin. Thank God they found each other and spared the rest of the known universe.

They both specialize in orchestrating crisis and looking to profit from it.

And speaking of orchestrating, slightly OT, does anyone else notice an increasingly dark undercurrent of racism in Fox programming? I mean, some’s obvious, the Cops handcuffing black guys as routine in their episodes. But whazzup with the pimping of O.J.’s If I’d’a Done It? Sick.

It’s a given that Fox is the WH infomercial network, is this more of the propaganda to divide the “lower classes” and reinforce the power of the Bushes and Murdochs of the world?

not to be an Aravosis basher, but on the Chuckles matter he offers this pearl of wisdom:

In the comments, Schumer also weighs in on the Lieberman/Lamont race. Schumer notes, correctly, that there was no point in giving Lamont money because he’s rich, could self-finance his campaign, and therefore didn’t need outside donations – compare that to other races in which the Democrat could not pay their own way. With a limited pool of money, who should get it, assuming both have an equal shot at winning – the rich guy, or the candidate who doesn’t have cash?

dude: it wasn’t about the money….

punaise @ 2:39 pm (#46)

not to be an Aravosis basher, but on the Chuckles matter he offers this pearl of wisdom:

In the comments, Schumer also weighs in on the Lieberman/Lamont race. Schumer notes, correctly, that there was no point in giving Lamont money because he’s rich, could self-finance his campaign, and therefore didn’t need outside donations – compare that to other races in which the Democrat could not pay their own way. With a limited pool of money, who should get it, assuming both have an equal shot at winning – the rich guy, or the candidate who doesn’t have cash?

dude: it wasn’t about the money….

When you’re out of straw, build a moneyman.

kemo @ 42

OT: is it just me, or does Mary Matalin talk without moving her chin. What is that, too much make-up, or is her jaw wired shut?

Neither. Her muscles are merely exhausted after a long session trying to rouse le petit Dick Cheney.

darkblack @ 36

Nate @ 31

By the way, in the same LoR spirit, did you see the picture for Lord of the Roots?

It sure puts Carville and Dean’s roles in this election in perspective.

That was a good one indeed, Nate…And I certainly can’t take credit for originating the Carville-as-Gollum meme … Mr. and Mrs. Carville, will you stand up, please?

;>)

with a little help from fdl friends…

punaise @ 46

not to be an Aravosis basher, but on the Chuckles matter he offers this pearl of wisdom:

In the comments, Schumer also weighs in on the Lieberman/Lamont race. Schumer notes, correctly, that there was no point in giving Lamont money because he’s rich, could self-finance his campaign, and therefore didn’t need outside donations – compare that to other races in which the Democrat could not pay their own way. With a limited pool of money, who should get it, assuming both have an equal shot at winning – the rich guy, or the candidate who doesn’t have cash?

dude: it wasn’t about the money….

I’m sorry, but I thought Lieberman was not only a millionare, but actually scored most of his millions while in the Senate. Besides, Holy Joe took plenty of cash…FROM THE REPUBLICANS. So what the fuck is Schumer talking about?

Here’s a better question, Chuckie: With a limited pool of money, who should get it, assuming both have an equal shot at winning – the Democratic candidate chosen by the Democratic party’s Connecticut voters in August, or the ex-Democratic candidate for a party named after himself who lost said primary and didn’t have the couth to just admit it and go home?

wrt Hill&Bill, I still believe it’s a two-fer. I believed it when Bill said it while seeking the Preznitcy. I still do. Bill has an immense, mogul-laden playpen in which to do good (CGI) but anything he says or does related to American politics is motivated by and cleared first by Hill. It’s her turn now, in their family dynamic. He will do nothing to impede, and anything to advance, her steamroll ride to the White House. If it’s what she wants.

The blogger party was part of this, for the Clintons. The bloggers got a whole lot out of it, too, including a breast kerfuffle, which must have tickled Bill no end. Hill, too, I bet. These people have a sense of humor. How could they not?

But, hindsighting the blogger party as an attempt to control, or co-opt, or subsume the bloggers misunderestimates Peter Daou and HillBill. Everybody came away with something, even the uninvited (who got to carp about Jessica’s breastthrusting). Cast back to the landscape of 2000, or 2002, or 2004. Isn’t 2006 a very different electoral dynamic because of, and despite, the bloggers? Bloggers are here to stay, and evolution in humanpower and technology being constantly forward, the hive mind can only grow, expand, and further affect the electoral dynamic. Who knows, today, what that dynamic will produce? One constant we know will be there is Hillary, Another constant is the presence, in an evolved new form, of “the bloggers.”

Don’t stop thinking about the future — it is ours.

Via Froomkin,

In keeping with the newfound atmosphere of bipartisanship, in addition to John Bolton, Bush is also nominating winners like Andrew Biggs a Social Security privatizer to be deputy commissioner of Social Security and Kenneth Tomlinson who got chased off the board of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for his attempts to politicize it (and also because he had his hand in the till) to be chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors which oversees the VOA and Radio Free Europe, etc.

Hugh @ 52

Via Froomkin,

In keeping with the newfound atmosphere of bipartisanship, in addition to John Bolton, Bush is also nominating winners like Andrew Biggs a Social Security privatizer to be deputy commissioner of Social Security and Kenneth Tomlinson who got chased off the board of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for his attempts to politicize it (and also because he had his hand in the till) to be chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors which oversees the VOA and Radio Free Europe, etc.

In keeping with the newfound atmosphere of bipartisanship, Bush is likely to get his own bronzed ass handed to him on a platter come January.

He didn’t send money to Joe, either. But this whole topic is a side show, a diversion, a purposeful irrelevancy.

As Tagaris made clear, they needed the party to renounce Joe with statements. They didn’t. Also, Tom Swan has not yet spoken on the matter, and he dealt more directly with the DSCC than Tim did. Tim reports he expects Tom will be making some statements at some point before long.

Hugh @ 52

Via Froomkin,

In keeping with the newfound atmosphere of bipartisanship, in addition to John Bolton, Bush is also nominating winners like Andrew Biggs a Social Security privatizer to be deputy commissioner of Social Security and Kenneth Tomlinson who got chased off the board of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for his attempts to politicize it (and also because he had his hand in the till) to be chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors which oversees the VOA and Radio Free Europe, etc.

Bidness as usual for Chimpco.

F*ckers.

punaise @ 46

In the comments, Schumer also weighs in on the Lieberman/Lamont race. Schumer notes, correctly, that there was no point in giving Lamont money because he’s rich, could self-finance his campaign, and therefore didn’t need outside donations – compare that to other races in which the Democrat could not pay their own way. With a limited pool of money, who should get it, assuming both have an equal shot at winning – the rich guy, or the candidate who doesn’t have cash?

He said all that with his head up his ass? Amazing.

Who pays Carville to appear on CNN for Dems?

I still think it’s a pity — I really liked Carville’s We’re Right, They’re Wrong. He really explained well, among other things, how Democrats are better for business than supposedly “pro-business” Republicans. From it I developed one of my political mantras, “Republicans give business what it wants, Democrats give business what it needs.“

Hugh @ 52

Via Froomkin,

In keeping with the newfound atmosphere of bipartisanship, in addition to John Bolton, Bush is also nominating winners like Andrew Biggs a Social Security privatizer to be deputy commissioner of Social Security and Kenneth Tomlinson who got chased off the board of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for his attempts to politicize it (and also because he had his hand in the till) to be chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors which oversees the VOA and Radio Free Europe, etc.

If these positions are subject to confirmation by the lameduck session, perhaps our Senate Dems should get a clue from their Texas Lege counterparts during DeLay’s illegal redistricting session: Run for the hills, hide out, junket away!

Eureka Springs, AR @ 57

Who pays Carville to appear on CNN for Dems?

CNN, I should suppose.

TeddySanFran @ 51

The bloggers got a whole lot out of it, too, including a breast kerfuffle…

I believe the phrase you coined was ‘boobie crisis of Harlem‘, Teddy.

;>)

Don’t stop thinking about the future — it is ours.

Hear, hear

TeddySanFran @ 59

Hugh @ 52

Via Froomkin,

In keeping with the newfound atmosphere of bipartisanship, in addition to John Bolton, Bush is also nominating winners like Andrew Biggs a Social Security privatizer to be deputy commissioner of Social Security and Kenneth Tomlinson who got chased off the board of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for his attempts to politicize it (and also because he had his hand in the till) to be chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors which oversees the VOA and Radio Free Europe, etc.

If these positions are subject to confirmation by the lameduck session, perhaps our Senate Dems should get a clue from their Texas Lege counterparts during DeLay’s illegal redistricting session: Run for the hills, hide out, junket away!

Filibuster. And then filibuster some more. Make Christmas 2006 a season of fir trees and filibusters. What are the ‘Thugs going to do…go nuclear?

Carville reminds me of Terry Bradshaw…
They are both clownish…

Jack

Redshift@ 58 good mantra there are way to many republicans who think corporate welfare and government contracts are the way to run a business. Producing a good or service that people want better than the next guy seems to have been forgotten.

EvilDrPuma @ 62

Filibuster. And then filibuster some more. Make Christmas 2006 a season of fir trees and filibusters. What are the ‘Thugs going to do…go nuclear?

pine the sky

It takes a real asshole to try to fracture the party after stunning wins of both Congressional Houses. He is still a wannabe but is a has been. He just hasn’t realized it yet. If it wasn’t for Dean’s 50 State Initiative, all those seats Carville says they could have won would not have been in play. The fruits of Dean’s effort will bear when the State legislatures won redistrict after 2010.

Eureka Springs, AR @ 57

Who pays Carville to appear on CNN for Dems?

Carville’s been appearing FOR Dems?

Bay State Librul @ 2:53 pm (#63)

Carville reminds me of Terry Bradshaw…
They are both clownish…

Bradshaw was good at what he did. He still isn’t all that bad at what he’s doing now. Clowning’s more fun to watch in those circumstances.

kirk murphy @ 2:56 pm (#67)

Eureka Springs, AR @ 57

Who pays Carville to appear on CNN for Dems?

Carville’s been appearing FOR Dems?

He likes to think so …

Carville reminds me of TerryBradshaw…
They are both clownish…

Jack

Terry’s is an act.

Carville is like that old country tune, “How can I miss you if You Won’t Go Away.”

Uncle Lou Dobbs promises an interview with UN non-Ambassador Bolton this hour!

When, when, when will W crash through 30% JAR?

Shakespears Sister weighs in on Carville.
I like her point at the end.

http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/

Well we have a new Dem congressman, Joe Courtney in CT. Simmons conceded. Via Hartford Courant. . Also via CTBob. Chris Shays was the only one who slipped by. Why Joe?

TeddySanFran @ 73

When, when, when will W crash through 30% JAR?

A week from Friday. (was thinking about that yesterday)

Steve Gilliard:

After not lifting a finger to help, the DLC crowd talks about a wave of conservative Dems. Which is really their way of rehabilitating their failed strategy. So you get Carville attacking Dean and calling for his replacement, which he doesn’t realize is quickly making him enemies among the base.

Chuck Schumer graciously goes on Kos to thank people and doesn’t slam Dean, but the DLC crowd, in a week, swiftboat Jack Murtha, attack Howard Dean, and try to downplay the role of citizen activists. Acting as if they had anything to do with the victories.

Carville goes on TV today and says Dean cost them seats.

Dean is trying not to piss off the Clintonistas, but the idea that Dean, the most popular DNC head ever, can be fired, after a record of success, is amusing.

These are the same people who fought Dean’s 50 state strategy all the way. Now, they want to claim credit.

I think, one day soon, they’re gonna wake up and realize that they’re the losers here.

Bustednuckles @
74

Shakespears Sister weighs in on Carville.
I like her point at the end.

http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/

That is an excellent finish…especially since Mary’s been known to tell a few fish tales.

Sparkles the Iguana @
24

Hey, don’t diss Mary Matalin like that. She’s made camel-toe popular again.

Yeah, but hers is an actual camel’s toe…

oddball @
11

Carville is the caricature that has doomed the Dem party since ‘94. These consultants need to take a hike.

I have been told, “If you build it he will come”.

Can we agree on, “If you don’t listen to them, they will go away”.

I used to think that way too…until the swiftboating of John Kerry. I think the media will wash, rinse and repeat many times to make this propaganda sink in. I don’t think it all stopped with the election.

Just checked out the Bowers article: Carville’s consultant con. It’d be nice to get rid of the Carvilles, the Dickie Morris’, the HoJoes and the Schumers. I think the trick is taking away the lure of entrenched power within the party or something, over say, just plain old good public service. Gotta think about that one. I’m never too clear what goes on in subterranean channels of politics.

TeddySanFran @
73

When, when, when will W crash through 30% JAR?

When the first hearings start–if they’re covered by the media straight up. I’m hoping for single digits by late summer, although I think the bottom may be around low-mid 20s if Nixon at his worst is any indication.

But, we all know that Bush far outpaces Nixon in the sleaze department, so the next few months will be a real test of the lower end of the wingnuttery scale. How many diehard Bush lovers are there, really? Inquiring minds want to know. :)

I don’t know when I’ve enjoyed reading a post more than this one. He so soundly deserves it.

James has always been a winner. Who else could executive produce a film about Huey Long staring some of the best actors in the biz and come up with the BIGGEST turkey of the year.
Go away James!

BobbyG @
7

Every time I see Carville I cannot suppress thinking of “Alien.”
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I think in Louisiana the problem is with nutria or coypu and not “aliens”.

James makes me think of Judge Doom from Roger Rabbit…

“When I killed your party I talked JUST LIKE THIIIIIIIIS!!!”

della Rovere @ 85

BobbyG @
7

Every time I see Carville I cannot suppress thinking of “Alien.”
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I think in Louisiana the problem is with nutria or coypu and not “aliens”.

For those not familiar with a nutria, think BIG rat. Kind of like a beaver without the flat tail.

For those not familiar with a nutria, think BIG rat. Kind of like a beaver without the flat tail.

in nearby GA the problem is Newt-rhea

Chauncy Gardner @ 84

James has always been a winner. Who else could executive produce a film about Huey Long staring some of the best actors in the biz and come up with the BIGGEST turkey of the year.
Go away James!

You’re right. He was exec producer on All the King’s Men, which was a huge bomb, both critically and financially. He also played a prosecutor who prosecuted Larry Flynt in The People vs. Larry Flynt. He showed his true right wing colors on that one.

Judith Regan of ReganBooks is a creep.

http://www.startribune.com/484/story/813423.html

Carville is not animal or mineral. He is a plant.
(in the operative sense)

In my district, CA 44, Democratic candidate Louis Vandenberg received 38% of the vote, with no campaign to speak of. Not a single ad, no lawn signs, no mailings, nothing.

In spite of the districts conservative voting history, this would have been a winnable seat with relatively minor investment, but apparently DCCC didn’t deem it to be so and was not willing to commit any funds. The republican incumbent Ken Calvert is a corrupt moron, had been caught with a prostitute, has a history of shady real estate deals, etc, etc, and there is enough ammunition for negative ads against him to last a decade.

Why DCCC was not willing to help is beyond me. The only explanation I can think of is that Vanderberg might be too liberal for Rahm Emanuel’s taste.

I’m not well-skilled at analyzing political races or anything but the Duckworth candidacy and heavy support for such seemed to me more a “brand” or “symbol” than you are giving it credit for. It wasn’t money wasted by any means. She was on the news everywhere like the optimum poster child for a war gone bad but gosh darn-it the soldiers are going to keep fighting, even if that means campaigning for change on two artificial legs. Honestly she’s more akin to Barbaro for how people care about how her story turns out, and pumping money into her race means even more people, those who can’t vote for her, get to hear it. Just my 2c.

punaise @ 91

Carville is not animal or mineral. He is a plant.
(in the operative sense)

Yet another good arguement for more stem cell research.

punaise @ 88

For those not familiar with a nutria, think BIG rat. Kind of like a beaver without the flat tail.

in nearby GA the problem is Newt-rhea

Cobb County’s very own STD….

Oklahoma kiddo @
90

Judith Regan of ReganBooks is a creep.

http://www.startribune.com/484/story/813423.html

the Viewladies were all over her this morning for this, especially Rosie. Barbara said very little; I bet she’s a Regan pal. Babs did say she was offered the OJ interview before Fox, and turned it down.

PS to TRex — Rosie’s on the sleep apnea dealie, now, and did a great segment on it with her doctor. After her kids started complaining about her snoring from the other end of the hall, she said she finally went to the MD after her partner videotaped her sleeping. Prior, Rosie denied she had a problem. She said she noticed improvement “the very first day” and has more energy after two weeks than she ever had before. Scary to think of Rosie with more energy, but there you are!

So, do only gay people come out about their sleep apnea and wear the mask on teevee?

Send Carville back to the bayous. We will teach him how to behave.

Was listening to “All Things Considered” and missed the introduction to a commentator speaking on Lott’s rehabilitation as Minority Whip. Kept thinking as he was spouting self-important drivel and diminishing the racism implicit in Lott’s downfall, “who is this twit?”

Doughy Pantload hisself.

Scoreboard

James Carville – you are a loser. Let’s look at the scoreboard

1992 DLC took control

1994 Dems lost the House
1996 Dems lost the House
1998 Dems lost the House
2000 Dems lost the House
2002 Dems lost the House and the Senate
2004 Dems lost the House and the Senate

2005 Dean named DNC Chairman

2006 Dems WON the House and the Senate

That’s Scoreboard – Gollum – now sit down and STFU!

Get ready for a Lott of Newt-rhea coming our way.

-GSD

Louisiana Girl @ 97

Send Carville back to the bayous. We will teach him how to behave.

I bet you will!

LOL

Can you throw Mary into a swamp a few times in honor of her boss, Dunker Dick?

Tony @
6

Snarkalicious as always, JH. Carville’s descent into irrelevance is almost sad to watch. Thanks for making it funny, too.

LOL—oh yeah! Was going for sad, but whe-e-e-e, just missed! Hopefully he won’t notice those barbs until he’s irretrievably discredited himself.

john in sacramento @ 99

Scoreboard

James Carville – you are a loser. Let’s look at the scoreboard

1992 DLC took control

1994 Dems lost the House
1996 Dems lost the House
1998 Dems lost the House
2000 Dems lost the House
2002 Dems lost the House and the Senate
2004 Dems lost the House and the Senate

2005 Dean named DNC Chairman

2006 Dems WON the House and the Senate

That’s Scoreboard – Gollum – now sit down and STFU!

That’s a nice summary. If folks SPOTLIGHT this or other Jane posts on Carville, it would make sense to include that summary in the comment — or in the post itself. The bottom line message: Carville is not a respected Dem strategist and does not represent the views of any credible group of Democrats. He should not be invited on CNN or other shows in a “Democratic spokesman” slot.

Crooks and Liars with Carville. “Cult of the DNC. Tey’re hearts are broken. . . Schumer and Emanuel lived with them and died with them.”
& with Deans response. I like Howard Dean. Having volunteered for the Lamont campaign, I’m just not feeling Carville’s emotion over Schumer’s lost races.

punaise @ 88

For those not familiar with a nutria, think BIG rat. Kind of like a beaver without the flat tail.

in nearby GA the problem is Newt-rhea

Very much like a rat. The folklore goes that the famous McIlhenny family of Tabasco fame brought them up from South America. The pen of rat like creatures broke free and they have been a curse on the Louisiana swamp ever since. I have heard stories of problems as far north as Virginia.

A sheriff in neighboring Jefferson Parish, Harry Lee had his deputies killing them with rifles in the middle of the main street in Metairie, Louisiana because they are such pests. Of course the locals complained that they didn’t want their children witnessing such acts and the killing stopped.

The problem is they eat the roots of plant life in the swamp and contribute to erosion of the swamp and marsh. I am sure you all have heard plenty about how we need our swamps and marshes for hurricane protection. Well add nutria to the list of dangers.

Oh and my sister was in Argentina last week and her husband’s family there apparently had a big BBQ with Nutria.

The louisina Department of Agriculture has been trying to promote Nutria in Japan for a while. I am not sure if they have had any success since I am no longer in the industry. I can see the promos now:

RAT it’s what’s for dinner! Yum!

Peace…Anna

Suddenly Boo Radley McCain is a big fan of holding the military accountable.

For God’s sake John, announce you are going to run for Prez. again so that the rightwing can get back to swifboating you into oblivion.

-GSD

john in sacramento @
99

Scoreboard

James Carville – you are a loser. Let’s look at the scoreboard

1992 DLC took control

1994 Dems lost the House and the Senate
1996 Dems lost the House and the Senate
1998 Dems lost the House and the Senate
2000 Dems lost the House
2002 Dems lost the House and the Senate
2004 Dems lost the House and the Senate

2005 Dean named DNC Chairman

2006 Dems WON the House and the Senate

That’s Scoreboard – Gollum – now sit down and STFU!

[edit: the Repubs also had control in the Senate in 1994 thru 1998, which reinforces my point]

Oh my!

LOLOLOL both MsAnnaNOLA and GSD!

john in sacramento @ 107

john in sacramento @
99

Scoreboard

James Carville – you are a loser. Let’s look at the scoreboard

1992 DLC took control

1994 Dems lost the House and the Senate
1996 Dems lost the House and the Senate
1998 Dems lost the House and the Senate
2000 Dems lost the House
2002 Dems lost the House and the Senate
2004 Dems lost the House and the Senate

2005 Dean named DNC Chairman

2006 Dems WON the House and the Senate

That’s Scoreboard – Gollum – now sit down and STFU!

[edit: the Repubs also had control in the Senate in 1994 thru 1998, which reinforces my point]

In terms of electoral record, they also failed to achieve a majority in the Senate in 2000. It was only Jim Jeffords’ defection which changed the balance to the Dems.

Well, Congress is back in session. Yesterday, a motion to invoke cloture and move to a vote on S. 403 to prohibit taking minors across State lines in circumvention of laws requiring the involvement of parents in abortion decisions failed 57-42. Sixty votes were needed for the motion to pass.

Democrats who voted for cloture:
Byrd (D-WV), Johnson (D-SD), Landrieu (D-LA), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Reid (D-NV)

Republicans who voted against cloture:
Chafee (R-RI), Snowe (R-ME), Specter (R-PA)

Not voting: Kennedy (D-MA)

Montag, you’re right, thanks for reminding me

Here’s my favorite song title, dedicated to Carville …”When your phone don’t ring, you’ll know that’s me”

Hugh @ 110

Well, Congress is back in session. Yesterday, a motion to invoke cloture and move to a vote on S. 403 to prohibit taking minors across State lines in circumvention of laws requiring the involvement of parents in abortion decisions failed 57-42. Sixty votes were needed for the motion to pass.

Democrats who voted for cloture:
Byrd (D-WV), Johnson (D-SD), Landrieu (D-LA), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Reid (D-NV)

Republicans who voted against cloture:
Chafee (R-RI), Snowe (R-ME), Specter (R-PA)

Not voting: Kennedy (D-MA)

Landrieu is a DLC person 100%. I liked her plan when she ran for governor. Unfortunately she has a great big target on her back. The rethugs would love to turn that seat red. They may well get their chance one day.

C&L has the Carville/Buchanan Festival of Sages
Mwahaha. He reminds me of that “former prosecutor” lady the hair shaped– noted by Trex– like an upsidedown potted plant with that turgid emotion laden style of speaking.

MsAnnaNOLA,

I don’t know how many times that Landrieu has voted with the Democrats and against the Republicans but it hasn’t been often.

The having luch with Newt comment says it all. He is a weenie sniffing wanna be power broker who conveniently criticizes the Dems successful leader Dean.

In: Dean
Out: Carville
In: grassroots
Out: weenie stuffers
In: Anti-War
Out: War Mongers
In: Bloggers
Out: Traditional Media

Let’s face it Dean is the new black!

Deal with it world of cocktail weenie stuffers!

john in sacramento @ 99

Scoreboard

James Carville – you are a loser. Let’s look at the scoreboard

1992 DLC took control

1994 Dems lost the House
1996 Dems lost the House
1998 Dems lost the House
2000 Dems lost the House
2002 Dems lost the House and the Senate
2004 Dems lost the House and the Senate

2005 Dean named DNC Chairman

2006 Dems WON the House and the Senate

That’s Scoreboard – Gollum – now sit down and STFU!

and he couldn’t kill Harry Potter.

Which explains this.

Hugh @ 115

MsAnnaNOLA,

I don’t know how many times that Landrieu has voted with the Democrats and against the Republicans but it hasn’t been often.

LandRieuver, another low-mileage SUV (Suck-Up Villian)

And the geeks are loving the Good Doctor, too.

Timely article from IT industry mag today on DNC’s upgrade of its data warehouse…which would have suffered if Rahm had gotten all the money Carville whines about for you.

DLC would suck telsatco weenie if they ever won control of the party and majority, too, you know it, putting Net Neutrality at risk. Landrieu is proof.

cnn replaying the mr matlin hot air blow . . .

fuck you mr matlin and don’t let the door hit you on the shrum on the way out!

I know one thing. I’m going to one pissed off mf’r if the Demos don’t let Pelosi have Murtha.

Landrieu and her brother are good for LA– they come from a long line of Landrieus that care for the people and the state, iirc.

She’s not so good as a Dem on the national level, imho.

Murtha back-pedals on clarifies “ethics reform is total crap” statement:

With one eye on the coveted House Majority Leader spot and another on reports he recently called an ethics reform effort “total crap,” Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) took to Hardball tonight to say his piece.

“What I said was, it’s total crap, the idea we have to deal with an issue like this, when. . . we’ve got a war going on and we got all these other issues,” Murtha told host Chris Matthews.

A Roll Call article today quoted Murtha saying of a Democratic ethics reform package, “Even though I think it’s total crap, I’ll vote for it and pass it because that’s what Nancy wants.”

Hugh @ 115

MsAnnaNOLA,

I don’t know how many times that Landrieu has voted with the Democrats and against the Republicans but it hasn’t been often.

Yeah I know. I need to start visiting her office regularly in protest.

I’m suddenly more of a huge fan of Wes Clark

Watch his son bash the Gollums of the Dem party on The Young Turks

serious prediction….

in under three months, Carville will be in rehab, and blaming his “crazy” statements on booze/pills….

Wes’ son is cool.

He campaigned with his dad up here in NH.

a very cool young man.

Am I seeing Hillary’s handy work on Murtha?

p.lukasiak @ 126

serious prediction….

in under three months, Carville will be in rehab, and blaming his “crazy” statements on booze/pills….

if mommy’s kool-aid does not kill him first!

Clark can win against McCain. Clark is OK.

sorry, another salon.com link – Daou Report

Limbaugh, Hannity & Savage’s poison: Savage claims gay people “threaten your very survival” …..

Day after day, millions of Americans are exposed to the poisonous rhetoric of right-wing talk radio haters. The latest example comes from Michael Savage: “On the November 13 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Michael Savage declared that “[t]he radical homosexual agenda will not stop until religion is outlawed in this county,” adding that gay people “threaten your very survival.” Savage also stated that homosexuals are “all not nice decorators” and warned: “Gay marriage is just the tip of the iceberg. They want full and total subjugation of this society to their agenda.” According to Talkers magazine, The Savage Nation reaches more than 8 million listeners each week, making it the third most-listened to radio talk show in the nation behind only The Rush Limbaugh Show and The Sean Hannity Show.”

be very scared.

punaise @ 123

Murtha back-pedals on clarifies “ethics reform is total crap” statement:

With one eye on the coveted House Majority Leader spot and another on reports he recently called an ethics reform effort “total crap,” Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) took to Hardball tonight to say his piece.

“What I said was, it’s total crap, the idea we have to deal with an issue like this, when. . . we’ve got a war going on and we got all these other issues,” Murtha told host Chris Matthews.

A Roll Call article today quoted Murtha saying of a Democratic ethics reform package, “Even though I think it’s total crap, I’ll vote for it and pass it because that’s what Nancy wants.”

And…

“I agree with what Nancy is trying to do,” Murtha told MSNBC. “The crap I’m talking about is the crap that people have violated the law.”

“What I said was it’s ‘total crap’ that I think we have to deal with an issue like this … when we got a war going on and all these other issues,” Murtha said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..aders_dc_7

Oklahoma kiddo @ 121

I know one thing. I’m going to one pissed off mf’r if the Demos don’t let Pelosi have Murtha.

Hey OFG -

Hope this helps:

Rep Murtha: We’ve got the votes.

I’m seeing Hillary’s handiwork (and Bill’s) in Carville.

Carville and Joke Line. Still drawing all the wrong lessons from the 2006 elections.

Pelosi is going to kick ass. And she won’t forget the bad guys. The boss knows how to play the game.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 136

Pelosi is going to kick ass. And she won’t forget the bad guys. The boss knows how to play the game.

her gambit is bold and probably over-reaching, but hey: if she wins, she owns the place.

Heeere we go…..

Video: Carville bashes Dean, ‘cult of DNC’… Soon…

http://rawstory.com/

punaise @ 137

Oklahoma kiddo @ 136

Pelosi is going to kick ass. And she won’t forget the bad guys. The boss knows how to play the game.

her gambit is bold and probably over-reaching, but hey: if she wins, she owns the place.

“bold and probably over-reaching”. Yeah, maybe. Kinda the opposite of Hillary. I’ve had enough of the Hill.

being fair and balanced wrt AmericaBlog, there is this:

This just in. Sources close to the Abramoff investigation say Harry Reid might have been fingered by Abramoff as one of the Senators he peddled influence to, or from, or whatever.

Oh, I’m sorry.

That’s not breaking news. It’s a rehashed story from almost a year ago. A story that’s already been debunked again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

Never mind.

each “again” is a link.

I doubt Grandma would have issued the letter if she thought Murtha would lose, but if he wins, the good and ill of it’ll be ascribed to her.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 139

Pelosi is going to kick ass. And she won’t forget the bad guys. The boss knows how to play the game.

her gambit is bold and probably over-reaching, but hey: if she wins, she owns the place.

“bold and probably over-reaching”. Yeah, maybe. Kinda the opposite of Hillary. I’ve had enough of the Hill.

to be clear: I like the move, it’s just frought with risk. Would hate to see her star tarnished before taking the reigns officially.

darkblack — hey, check out this gem…

http://z.about.com/d/political…..rville.jpg

You know the punchline I’m thinking of, don’t you?

“Six inches!”

New Thread.

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..r/#respond

p –

Being unfair and unbalanced, color me unsurprised to see Mr. A comfort the powerful….

Unless they focus exclusively on Connecticut, I can’t believe that mainstream media movement Democrats, like Carville, after taking in consideration nationwide results, can possible think that their faction won the election.

People really are sick of watching him fawn all over that right wing tool Tim Russert.

TeddySanFran @ 141

I doubt Grandma would have issued the letter if she thought Murtha would lose, but if he wins, the good and ill of it’ll be ascribed to her.

I think this woman can take the “ill” part of it, if any. I’ll take the gamble.

I’m going nuts over here with Carville publicly shredding Dean. I just saw the clip on CNN’s Situation Room 7:00 p.m. edition. What is it going to take to get him to STFU?

This isn’t politics or money, this is a personal vendetta. WTF is up with him and Rahm? Arrrggghhh!

It is obvious that Carville agreed with Rove’s math and was expecting (hoping for) continued defeat and disaster for the Democratic Party.

He prepared for his greatest role, to ride in on a white horse and blitz the media with his suggestions to save the party he purports to support.

Dump Dean – crazy idealist. Draft Harold Ford to attract DINOs and suppress “out of the mainstream” liberals. And counter RNC minority candidates. Win/Win.

Grab the reins quickly, before a consensus has a chance to form. First one in gets to pick the meme. “The RNC did a better job than the DNC this year.” Say it enough times and it may begin to make sense.

Co-ordinate your offensive with the “enemy”. If the other side agrees with your sensibility, you must be fair and balanced, without that nasty partisanship that makes everything so messy and unfriendly. Nice lunch with Newt proves you aren’t just a hack.

The only thing wrong with Carville’s plan is that reality intervened – BIG TIME. But that’s no reason to change the strategy, or even the tactics. This was all staged in his mind long ago, part of the long term plan. Might as well go with the performance you have rehearsed.

punaise @ 123

Murtha back-pedals on clarifies “ethics reform is total crap” statement:

With one eye on the coveted House Majority Leader spot and another on reports he recently called an ethics reform effort “total crap,” Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) took to Hardball tonight to say his piece.

“What I said was, it’s total crap, the idea we have to deal with an issue like this, when. . . we’ve got a war going on and we got all these other issues,” Murtha told host Chris Matthews.

A Roll Call article today quoted Murtha saying of a Democratic ethics reform package, “Even though I think it’s total crap, I’ll vote for it and pass it because that’s what Nancy wants.”

What Murtha fails to appreciate here is that the issues at hand are not Iraq or corruption. It’s all of a piece. Bush started this as a war for the corrupt, run by the corrupt, and in the service of their corruption.

This is the same reason I grimaced last week at the “GOP lost because of corruption, not the war” meme. You can’t pull one of these strings without finding the other.

Rayne @
143

You know the punchline I’m thinking of, don’t you?

“Six inches!”

‘Pinocchio tells the lies, while I lays back and sighs’

;>)

Wow Jane,, you are on a real roll here. Yesterday peddling some trash story about Obama and now calling Tammy Duckworth a loser. Tammy just celebrated her “I’m Alive 4 year anniversary Sunday.” I bet Tammy may have a different perspective on winners and losers.

After reading your blog for about a year now, the only thing I come away with that you believe in are lost causes.

punaise @
88

For those not familiar with a nutria, think BIG rat. Kind of like a beaver without the flat tail.

in nearby GA the problem is Newt-rhea

beautiful

Here’s a better question, Chuckie:

Where do you get off listing Bernie Sanders as your success?

Carville will shut up once someone asks him how he would feel about Dean, free from the DNC & the deal he made not to run in 08, running against Hillary.

Carville is one creepy guy.

p.lukasiak @
126

serious prediction….

in under three months, Carville will be in rehab, and blaming his “crazy” statements on booze/pills….

I think you may be on to something.

RiverRed @
152

Wow Jane,, you are on a real roll here. Yesterday peddling some trash story about Obama and now calling Tammy Duckworth a loser. Tammy just celebrated her “I’m Alive 4 year anniversary Sunday.” I bet Tammy may have a different perspective on winners and losers.

After reading your blog for about a year now, the only thing I come away with that you believe in are lost causes.

I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.

“I wanted Bay Buchanan to offer him a hankie tell him not to worry, Rahm would only have flushed more money down the shitter to follow the $4 million he threw after losers Diane Farrell and Tammy Duckworth,”

“I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.”

Jane, while I enjoy and share many of your perspectives and opinions, you lost me on this one. Calling Ms. Duckworth a loser, and then trying to hide it…it’s so very Hannityish.

Ms. Duckworth lost her race, ’tis true; but, she is no loser.

Greg Luce @
157

“I wanted Bay Buchanan to offer him a hankie tell him not to worry, Rahm would only have flushed more money down the shitter to follow the $4 million he threw after losers Diane Farrell and Tammy Duckworth,”

“I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.”

Jane, while I enjoy and share many of your perspectives and opinions, you lost me on this one. Calling Ms. Duckworth a loser, and then trying to hide it…it’s so very Hannityish.

Ms. Duckworth lost her race, ’tis true; but, she is no loser.

She may be a lovely human being but she was never going to win that race and that was what the post was about, nothing more and nothing less. Propping up straw men is so very Hannityish.

I don’t know if you caught up with the news, but she lost her race.

That’s not how you used the term “loser” Jane.

And now you are a post-election prognosticator on IL-06 by saying Duckworth was never going to win. That’s pretty insightful one week after the election.

If Howard’s 50 state strategy was so successful and Rahm’s misplaced, how come the Dems took three Congressional seats in IN but lost every statewide office. It seems like the House candidates had the money & organization and the state candidates didn’t get enough lift from the Dean operation.