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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/abramoff-and-friends/#comment-384425</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As John Solomon knows perfectly well, the Indian tribes were not Abby’s clients, so much as they were his VICTIMS.  They paid him upwards of $66 million to lobby for their interests and he took great delight in screwing them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Solomon is just doing his damndest to try to pretend that Mister College Republican President is bipartisan.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As John Solomon knows perfectly well, the Indian tribes were not Abby’s clients, so much as they were his VICTIMS.  They paid him upwards of $66 million to lobby for their interests and he took great delight in screwing them.</p>
<p>Solomon is just doing his damndest to try to pretend that Mister College Republican President is bipartisan.</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/abramoff-and-friends/#comment-384059</link>
		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can anyone here think of a positive accomplishment by Condie Rice in either of her two jobs over the last six years?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seems that she is always getting on an airplane- and then she comes back- and nothing is ever different- but maybe I’m forgetting something.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone here think of a positive accomplishment by Condie Rice in either of her two jobs over the last six years?</p>
<p>Seems that she is always getting on an airplane- and then she comes back- and nothing is ever different- but maybe I’m forgetting something.</p>
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		<title>By: pow wow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/abramoff-and-friends/#comment-384047</link>
		<dc:creator>pow wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bide a wee, Crazy Horse - I hope the natives can rebuild wisely with the new source of money and then throw if off successfully somewhere down the line.  Meanwhile, there still appears to be a long climb back to health for the Indian Nations of this land.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bide a wee, Crazy Horse &#8211; I hope the natives can rebuild wisely with the new source of money and then throw if off successfully somewhere down the line.  Meanwhile, there still appears to be a long climb back to health for the Indian Nations of this land.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;paul 101 — exactly.  We need to build us a BIG stick, and then we need to give the stick to the right warrior to use as we dictate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not turn the BIG stick over to someone who’ll club us with it as if we were baby seals.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paul 101 — exactly.  We need to build us a BIG stick, and then we need to give the stick to the right warrior to use as we dictate.</p>
<p>Not turn the BIG stick over to someone who’ll club us with it as if we were baby seals.</p>
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		<title>By: p.lukasiak</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/abramoff-and-friends/#comment-384026</link>
		<dc:creator>p.lukasiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I mean real money. I know the ‘roots raised something like $15m this cycle (and before I get jumped on, that was a great effort), but that’s not much compared to what the DSCC and DCCC raised.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OT, but I would suggest that the “netroots” spend 2007 raising money for the House Progressive Caucus funds (or whatever its called) with the understanding that the money be spent solely for “progressive” candidates challenging GOP incumbents.   In other words, empower House progressives to fund the takeover of the DCCC by progressives in 2008 or 2010 — however long it takes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the things that really disgusted me about Rahm was how he abandoned Democratic primary winner who beat “his” candidate — a couple of them managed to win (shea-porter, McNerny) but if I were a progressive thinking about running, I’d think twice about it knowing that Rahm might decide to back someone else, and not support me when I beat his designated candidate.  That’s why a fund controlled by the Progressive House Caucus would come into play — it tells grassroots candidates that they don’t NEED Rahm….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I mean real money. I know the ‘roots raised something like $15m this cycle (and before I get jumped on, that was a great effort), but that’s not much compared to what the DSCC and DCCC raised.</i></p>
<p>OT, but I would suggest that the “netroots” spend 2007 raising money for the House Progressive Caucus funds (or whatever its called) with the understanding that the money be spent solely for “progressive” candidates challenging GOP incumbents.   In other words, empower House progressives to fund the takeover of the DCCC by progressives in 2008 or 2010 — however long it takes.</p>
<p>One of the things that really disgusted me about Rahm was how he abandoned Democratic primary winner who beat “his” candidate — a couple of them managed to win (shea-porter, McNerny) but if I were a progressive thinking about running, I’d think twice about it knowing that Rahm might decide to back someone else, and not support me when I beat his designated candidate.  That’s why a fund controlled by the Progressive House Caucus would come into play — it tells grassroots candidates that they don’t NEED Rahm….</p>
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		<title>By: Pacific Coaster</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/abramoff-and-friends/#comment-384013</link>
		<dc:creator>Pacific Coaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Someone in one of the blog comments said the republicans would be busy  smearing democrats for the next election. I have read two or three stories in the media about ‘corrupt’ democrats. It has started..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone in one of the blog comments said the republicans would be busy  smearing democrats for the next election. I have read two or three stories in the media about ‘corrupt’ democrats. It has started..</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Horse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crazy Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What should have been obvious is that i was not implying support for the Abramovitz… i was saying that despite the elders warning (and who knows that they’re not still right) we find the casino money the key to our survival.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What should have been obvious is that i was not implying support for the Abramovitz… i was saying that despite the elders warning (and who knows that they’re not still right) we find the casino money the key to our survival.</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Horse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crazy Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The debate about casinos in native culture is ongoing…  is the cultural damage worth it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That we finally can afford our own health care seems to be the underlying principle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That we can also compile DVD’s of our almost lost languages is beyond contemplation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Simple analysis:  BLACK JACK!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate about casinos in native culture is ongoing…  is the cultural damage worth it?</p>
<p>That we finally can afford our own health care seems to be the underlying principle.</p>
<p>That we can also compile DVD’s of our almost lost languages is beyond contemplation.</p>
<p>Simple analysis:  BLACK JACK!</p>
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		<title>By: katymine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/abramoff-and-friends/#comment-383977</link>
		<dc:creator>katymine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This whole rumor does not pass the sniff test. Why would the Repugs not use this information during the election since corruption was such an issue? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other thing about money from tribes and legislation for tribes. AZ has 21 individual tribes with distinct reservations. In AZ, casinos have to be on the already established reservation land. Western states such as AZ, NM, NV all have large reservation land. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congressmen &amp; Senators who have tribal lands within their states and districts, who are advocating for laws and funds for the very tribes are supporting their constituents. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ag.arizona.edu/edrp/tribes.html&quot;&gt;AZ Indian Tribes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole rumor does not pass the sniff test. Why would the Repugs not use this information during the election since corruption was such an issue? </p>
<p>The other thing about money from tribes and legislation for tribes. AZ has 21 individual tribes with distinct reservations. In AZ, casinos have to be on the already established reservation land. Western states such as AZ, NM, NV all have large reservation land. </p>
<p>Congressmen &amp; Senators who have tribal lands within their states and districts, who are advocating for laws and funds for the very tribes are supporting their constituents. </p>
<p><a href="http://ag.arizona.edu/edrp/tribes.html">AZ Indian Tribes</a></p>
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		<title>By: MarcLord</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/15/abramoff-and-friends/#comment-383972</link>
		<dc:creator>MarcLord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-383918&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 84&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Salon.com &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2006/11/15/carville_rumsfeldian/index.html&quot;&gt;War Room&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Carville: Dean’s leadership “Rumsfeldian”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;James Carville’s plan to replace Howard Dean with failed Senate candidate Harold Ford, Jr. may have failed, but that doesn’t seem to have stopped the former Clinton strategist’s campaign against the DNC chair.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Today, Carville is off telling reporters that Dean’s leadership is “Rumsfeldian in its competence,&lt;/b&gt;” and that if Dean had just listened to the often-abrasive southerner and spent $6 million the DNC had on hand then the Democrats could have picked up as many as 50 House seats, roughly 20 more than they’ve won to date. And yes, Carville still wants to see Dean replaced.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My reply to the Austin Statesman which &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/washington/washington/entries/2006/11/15/carville_says_d.html&quot;&gt;ran the story today&lt;/a&gt;. They didn’t publish it:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dean’s 50-state strategy was patient, brilliant, and obviously paid off. It was the political equivalent of a royal flush, in spades. As for Carville, he is by his own admission mentally unbalanced, and who proudly claims to sleep with the enemy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Carville has been completely off the farm since he called up his wife in the White House on November 8th, 2004 and told her Kerry was going to demand a recount in Ohio. His wife, Bush campaign manager Mary Matalin, kindly took that information to the team, which promptly got Ohio state election commissioner Ken Blackwell on the phone and told him to stonewall.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d love to compare Carville’s special brand of incompetence to Rumsfeld’s, but Carville is too much like Benedict Arnold. Don’t get me wrong, Carville is no slouch when it comes to incompetence, but being a turncoat trumps that. Too bad he doesn’t even have the self-honesty to admit it. Like Arnold, the fleeing Carville will eventually be apprehended. I see he’s prepared to be shot for treason, since he’s already wearing his blindfold.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-383918"><em>punaise @ 84</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Salon.com <a href="http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2006/11/15/carville_rumsfeldian/index.html">War Room</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Carville: Dean’s leadership “Rumsfeldian”</p>
<p>James Carville’s plan to replace Howard Dean with failed Senate candidate Harold Ford, Jr. may have failed, but that doesn’t seem to have stopped the former Clinton strategist’s campaign against the DNC chair.</p>
<p><b>Today, Carville is off telling reporters that Dean’s leadership is “Rumsfeldian in its competence,</b>” and that if Dean had just listened to the often-abrasive southerner and spent $6 million the DNC had on hand then the Democrats could have picked up as many as 50 House seats, roughly 20 more than they’ve won to date. And yes, Carville still wants to see Dean replaced.</p>
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<p>My reply to the Austin Statesman which <a href="http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/washington/washington/entries/2006/11/15/carville_says_d.html">ran the story today</a>. They didn’t publish it:</p>
<p>Dean’s 50-state strategy was patient, brilliant, and obviously paid off. It was the political equivalent of a royal flush, in spades. As for Carville, he is by his own admission mentally unbalanced, and who proudly claims to sleep with the enemy.</p>
<p>Carville has been completely off the farm since he called up his wife in the White House on November 8th, 2004 and told her Kerry was going to demand a recount in Ohio. His wife, Bush campaign manager Mary Matalin, kindly took that information to the team, which promptly got Ohio state election commissioner Ken Blackwell on the phone and told him to stonewall.</p>
<p>I’d love to compare Carville’s special brand of incompetence to Rumsfeld’s, but Carville is too much like Benedict Arnold. Don’t get me wrong, Carville is no slouch when it comes to incompetence, but being a turncoat trumps that. Too bad he doesn’t even have the self-honesty to admit it. Like Arnold, the fleeing Carville will eventually be apprehended. I see he’s prepared to be shot for treason, since he’s already wearing his blindfold.</p>
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