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		<title>By: cal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No riff on the humor side.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So far as Martinez is concerned I was really hoping they’d appoint Elizabeth Dole.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But God doesn’t like me that much.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No riff on the humor side.</p>
<p>So far as Martinez is concerned I was really hoping they’d appoint Elizabeth Dole.</p>
<p>But God doesn’t like me that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Train</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/removing-stick-from-ass-painful/#comment-382259</link>
		<dc:creator>Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL… I think the audience kinda missed that joke about Indians dealing with foreign ememies that were bent on their destruction. That or Stephen in a rare attack of comic mistiming ran over the laugh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL… I think the audience kinda missed that joke about Indians dealing with foreign ememies that were bent on their destruction. That or Stephen in a rare attack of comic mistiming ran over the laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Ick of the East</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/removing-stick-from-ass-painful/#comment-382186</link>
		<dc:creator>Ick of the East</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-382044&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;two beers @&lt;br /&gt;
                63              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-381976&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bluebird @&lt;br /&gt;
                7              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fox has a show coming out next year that’s a conservative version of The Daily Show called This Just In. Limbaugh has talked about it and it’s being produced Joe Surnow, the guy who created 24.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;let me guess….Andrew Dice Clay?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nope.  Patricia Heaton.  You know, the right-wing comedic genius who keeps everyone from hating Raymond?&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah.  She’s teh funnie.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-382044"><em>two beers @<br />
                63              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-381976"><em>bluebird @<br />
                7              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Fox has a show coming out next year that’s a conservative version of The Daily Show called This Just In. Limbaugh has talked about it and it’s being produced Joe Surnow, the guy who created 24.</p>
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<p>let me guess….Andrew Dice Clay?</p>
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<p>Nope.  Patricia Heaton.  You know, the right-wing comedic genius who keeps everyone from hating Raymond?<br />
Yeah.  She’s teh funnie.</p>
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		<title>By: Tug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They have Dennis Miller.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would not lose any sleep just yet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have Dennis Miller.</p>
<p>I would not lose any sleep just yet.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnSwifty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/removing-stick-from-ass-painful/#comment-382101</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnSwifty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-382061&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mrs. K8 @ 77 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mrs. K8,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s been so long, but I think you must be a closeted German philosopher. You’ve described the inevitable downward spiral of authoritarianism in terms of Nietschze’s nihilism. And the conceptualization that you long for seems reminiscent of Kant’s ideas of perception; that we are a “tabula rasa” ready to be active participants in our own descriptions of society rather than encumbered by misrepresented verbiage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have also argued (usually over a glass of scotch or two) that it is silly to try and represent the human experience as a single linear aspect of right/left, liberal/conservative. And, I think that you are exactly right in pointing out that Aristotle’s “golden mean” of those poorly framed constructs leads to heavy leaden results. Even to expand a mental image of the human condition and say that the ‘mean’ is a central hub, like spokes in a bicycle tire, and each paired spoke is a description of some element of the human psyche, isn’t that still really two dimensional and noticeably finite? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Expand this poor physical model to a third dimension and make it a koosh ball. Doesn’t it still lack nuance and romance and magic in it’s limited capacity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we can believe string theorists, there are mathematical proofs for 10 physical dimensions of our reality; and, Ed Witten provides the truly golden key to show a combining, intertwining eleventh in what we think of as our ‘physical’ reality. Now, I can’t think in those terms, but I would like to imagine that the magic of the human condition, as endowed by the creator, is even beyond those physical barriers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Call me a romantic (or a raving fool, both apply), but in terms of compressing the chaos of all aspects of human thought and emotion and nuance and love into a single linear concept of “left” and “right” well, I think that’s just freakin’ hilarious!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much for you thoughts. I think this community is richer for them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-382061"><em>Mrs. K8 @ 77 </em></a></p>
<p>Mrs. K8,</p>
<p>It’s been so long, but I think you must be a closeted German philosopher. You’ve described the inevitable downward spiral of authoritarianism in terms of Nietschze’s nihilism. And the conceptualization that you long for seems reminiscent of Kant’s ideas of perception; that we are a “tabula rasa” ready to be active participants in our own descriptions of society rather than encumbered by misrepresented verbiage.</p>
<p>I have also argued (usually over a glass of scotch or two) that it is silly to try and represent the human experience as a single linear aspect of right/left, liberal/conservative. And, I think that you are exactly right in pointing out that Aristotle’s “golden mean” of those poorly framed constructs leads to heavy leaden results. Even to expand a mental image of the human condition and say that the ‘mean’ is a central hub, like spokes in a bicycle tire, and each paired spoke is a description of some element of the human psyche, isn’t that still really two dimensional and noticeably finite? </p>
<p>Expand this poor physical model to a third dimension and make it a koosh ball. Doesn’t it still lack nuance and romance and magic in it’s limited capacity.</p>
<p>If we can believe string theorists, there are mathematical proofs for 10 physical dimensions of our reality; and, Ed Witten provides the truly golden key to show a combining, intertwining eleventh in what we think of as our ‘physical’ reality. Now, I can’t think in those terms, but I would like to imagine that the magic of the human condition, as endowed by the creator, is even beyond those physical barriers. </p>
<p>Call me a romantic (or a raving fool, both apply), but in terms of compressing the chaos of all aspects of human thought and emotion and nuance and love into a single linear concept of “left” and “right” well, I think that’s just freakin’ hilarious!</p>
<p>Thanks so much for you thoughts. I think this community is richer for them.</p>
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		<title>By: SamTheLurker</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/removing-stick-from-ass-painful/#comment-382087</link>
		<dc:creator>SamTheLurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-382083&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;uncle toby @ 88&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-382073&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SamTheLurker @ 84&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-382066&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @ 82&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;gooper humor? Review Mallard Fillmore-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And there’s always B.C. for the Fundie Funnies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am mysteriously drawn to B.C. in the Sunday paper — I guess I try to discern the Fundie dog-whistle message — but I just don’t get it.  Its humorlessness is quite impenetrable –much beyond &lt;em&gt;Nancy&lt;/em&gt;, and about on par with &lt;em&gt;Henry&lt;/em&gt; (but utterly lacking the great charm of those great strips of days gone by).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oddly, I remember B.C. being funny in its early days. It (or its author) just got steadily crankier and weirder as time went on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-382083"><em>uncle toby @ 88</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-382073"><em>SamTheLurker @ 84</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-382066"><em>rwcole @ 82</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>gooper humor? Review Mallard Fillmore-</p>
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<p>And there’s always B.C. for the Fundie Funnies.</p>
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<p>I am mysteriously drawn to B.C. in the Sunday paper — I guess I try to discern the Fundie dog-whistle message — but I just don’t get it.  Its humorlessness is quite impenetrable –much beyond <em>Nancy</em>, and about on par with <em>Henry</em> (but utterly lacking the great charm of those great strips of days gone by).</p>
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<p>Oddly, I remember B.C. being funny in its early days. It (or its author) just got steadily crankier and weirder as time went on.</p>
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		<title>By: uncle toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>uncle toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-382073&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SamTheLurker @ 84&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-382066&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @ 82&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;gooper humor? Review Mallard Fillmore-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And there’s always B.C. for the Fundie Funnies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am mysteriously drawn to B.C. in the Sunday paper — I guess I try to discern the Fundie dog-whistle message — but I just don’t get it.  Its humorlessness is quite impenetrable –much beyond &lt;em&gt;Nancy&lt;/em&gt;, and about on par with &lt;em&gt;Henry&lt;/em&gt; (but utterly lacking the great charm of those great strips of days gone by).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-382073"><em>SamTheLurker @ 84</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-382066"><em>rwcole @ 82</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>gooper humor? Review Mallard Fillmore-</p>
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<p>And there’s always B.C. for the Fundie Funnies.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I am mysteriously drawn to B.C. in the Sunday paper — I guess I try to discern the Fundie dog-whistle message — but I just don’t get it.  Its humorlessness is quite impenetrable –much beyond <em>Nancy</em>, and about on par with <em>Henry</em> (but utterly lacking the great charm of those great strips of days gone by).</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-382075&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 85&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mrs. K8 at 77:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
There really needs to be a new kind of language to describe these cultural/political states in society. Perhaps a language which doesn’t rely on SPATIAL conceptualizations (left, right, up, down). I wish I knew where to find such a better language!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Insiders/Outsiders?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your eloquent writing today.  I always enjoy what you write, Mrs. K8, and it always make me think.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Coming from you, Teddy, that’s a real compliment.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And it makes me feel less useless than I would otherwise feel, being cut off as I am from lots of the mix-it-up of daily social interaction and general hub-bub, which I still miss a lot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now I’m going to wrestle on my wetsuit so I can have a late night p.t. session in the pool — but while working out there it will make me smile inside to think that ideas shared through this mysterious medium can constitute a real connection with others (tho’ paradoxically just “virtual”!) in this human condition we all struggle with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And thanks to our wonderful hosts for creating this amazing space, and to each and every contributor to our conversation!  Each one so very valuable.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-382075"><em>TeddySanFran @ 85</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Mrs. K8 at 77:</p>
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There really needs to be a new kind of language to describe these cultural/political states in society. Perhaps a language which doesn’t rely on SPATIAL conceptualizations (left, right, up, down). I wish I knew where to find such a better language!</p>
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<p>Insiders/Outsiders?</p>
<p>Thanks for your eloquent writing today.  I always enjoy what you write, Mrs. K8, and it always make me think.</p>
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<p>Coming from you, Teddy, that’s a real compliment.  </p>
<p>And it makes me feel less useless than I would otherwise feel, being cut off as I am from lots of the mix-it-up of daily social interaction and general hub-bub, which I still miss a lot.</p>
<p>Now I’m going to wrestle on my wetsuit so I can have a late night p.t. session in the pool — but while working out there it will make me smile inside to think that ideas shared through this mysterious medium can constitute a real connection with others (tho’ paradoxically just “virtual”!) in this human condition we all struggle with.</p>
<p>Thank you for that.</p>
<p>And thanks to our wonderful hosts for creating this amazing space, and to each and every contributor to our conversation!  Each one so very valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: bg</title>
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		<dc:creator>bg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I heard a thing over the weekend talking about how the paradigm needs to change from love of power to power of love. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Love it!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a thing over the weekend talking about how the paradigm needs to change from love of power to power of love. </p>
<p>Love it!!</p>
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		<title>By: TeddySanFran</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeddySanFran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mrs. K8 at 77:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
There really needs to be a new kind of language to describe these cultural/political states in society. Perhaps a language which doesn’t rely on SPATIAL conceptualizations (left, right, up, down). I wish I knew where to find such a better language!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Insiders/Outsiders?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your eloquent writing today.  I always enjoy what you write, Mrs. K8, and it always make me think.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. K8 at 77:</p>
<blockquote><p>
There really needs to be a new kind of language to describe these cultural/political states in society. Perhaps a language which doesn’t rely on SPATIAL conceptualizations (left, right, up, down). I wish I knew where to find such a better language!</p>
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<p>Insiders/Outsiders?</p>
<p>Thanks for your eloquent writing today.  I always enjoy what you write, Mrs. K8, and it always make me think.</p>
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