I've written before that there's no such thing as Republican humor, and that might be unfair, because we may be seeing faint glimmers of it on the horizon:
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the next best thing (by a little) to making Kevin Phillips the new RNC Chair: Bonehead Martinez. Yes, that's right, Bonehead, who with a five-point Bush win in trending-Red Florida at his back, barely managed to beat one of the more anodyne, bland Democrats to run for the Senate outside of Massachusetts; Bonehead, who managed to take a dicey political situation in the Terri Schiavo affair and make himself into a Google search result; Bonehead, who if asked to eat eggs over easy and shave at the same time, would end up with shiny whites and yolk smeared in fork-tine streaks across his face; Bonehead is going to be the RNC Chair.
Okay it's not really funny or anything, but there are some outlines of humor in evidence. Rush recently proclaimed himself relieved because he doesn't have to defend the party's indefensible members of Congress any more (by which I assume the ones who object to Mezkins cleaning his house for chickenfeed and scoring his pills), and the new intra-GOP war may have liberated the remedial funnybone in the Red State crowd. Humor is rather antithetical to the powerful making fun of those they are oppressing, and how many rib-ticklers can you write about date rape anyway -- "roofies" is an entirely overused punchline in the Bush era. It's going to be much easier for them to make teh funny if they're mocking authority, something our wingnut bretheren have under Republican hegemony been loath to do.
Which is all by way of saying I don't think we'll be seeing the Steven Colbert of the right any time soon, but they may well work themselves up a Howie Mandel or a Carrot Top or two as they watch the opportunistic rats scuttle over the gunwales of their rapidly sinking ship.
File under "small consolation."
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Well, there’s always Dennis Miller on FOX with his ongoing Pelosi-estrogenorama. Oh, wait, Dennis is a professional humorist, right?
Roots!
Dennis Miller is an idiot and an asshole. I swear, he’s one guy I’d punch in the face if I ever got a chance.
Day By Day shows no signs of humor yet, but that’s fine, I read it for the cartoon boobs.
What about John Ashcroft? He’s supposed to be a joy to be around.
Fox has a show coming out next year that’s a conservative version of The Daily Show called This Just In. Limbaugh has talked about it and it’s being produced Joe Surnow, the guy who created 24.
TeddySanFran @ 2
He gets money. That’s as far as I’m prepared to commit myself.
Which republican comedian said this:
Hint: he looks like a monkey
Electric City!
blogger is on the fritz
What I find hysterical about Republicans is how comic book ugly they are. Denny Hastert’s porcine face is straight out of casting, with the jowls so heavy they keep the mouth perpetually open. Look at the picture of Hastert and Bush when they are both wearing the lab jackets and Denny is fitted with lab glasses. Our leaders.
The Jerry Lewis dude from California is also a Hollywood creation, with that hair and skin. Cripes.
Now picture Katherine Harris holding up the possum by its tail. She’s not the slightest bit squeamish, but goes right for the little rodent.
This traggi-comic shit is pure Shakespeare.
bluebird @
7
Gawd. In order to be funny you have to be relevant. The “conservative” version of the Daily Show is going to be defending the steaming pile of horse malarkey of the Right Wing. We already got fifteen thousand little hacks chopping away at that one. And I’m sorry, in order to do humor you have to be funny. I don’t remember the one or two episods of “24″ I’ve ever seen as being remotely funny.
dannyM @ 12
it’s the possum that was squeamish
How about the Mitch McConnnell Variety hour Late Night with Dov Zakheim?
punaise @ 11
The unusual circumstance, rather, is that Blogger is not on the fritz. :)
I dunno, I thought the thing about the tine marks was kinda funny. Of course, I have no idea what Sen. Martinez is actually like. That might conceivably change my opinion in either direction.
I was going to point out that Dennis Miller is an insufferable ass, but the GPB beat me to it.
I’ve said as much before, but I think you can attribute the lack of humor to an inability with the perception of nuance. Most very fundamental convervative types don’t seem to appreciate satire; case in point, before Colbert was ‘realized’ to be a satirist I remember he was actually quoted by Republican congress members. The black and white mental process of the right winger simply doesn’t lend itself to colorful humor. They do seem to like The Three Stooges, though.
George Carlin - ‘Life is Worth Losing’:
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en
Plenty more choices in the playlist.
right wing un-comedian, trying to channel Henny Youngman while mocking the left for giving in to the terrorists:
“take my
wifelife, please…”Fritz!
TeddySanFran @ 6:08 pm (#2)
Back when he didn’t have sacred cows, Miller was funny. Now, he has to work hard to be amusing, which he mostly manages while doing commercials.
Totally ineffective even in humor. Almost makes ya laugh out loud.
I’ve been thinking since some of the posts of the weekend about what we’ve got to do and so on…seems to me that the GOP just doesn’t HAVE anybody to save their asses (I mean really, McCain is the best they’ve got?). They can’t capitulate and do smart things ’cause that’ll be admitting a mistake and caving to the Democratic Dogs (of whatever color), right? And they can’t take the lead on anything at all because they’ve got to ‘follow’ the leadership—primed by pres. cluster at the head of the dysfunctional parade—and nobody at the front has a clue.
So all we have to do is
-Be effective in governing,
-Be effective in promoting our common-sense approach to governing,
-And stay out of fights.
Now the last, that’s gonna be the trick…
Cavalry to the rescue! egrBrother is here and arguing with Mregregious about why all those donations to Democratic candidates were not only worthwhile but essential for the very future of the nation.
Aaaahhh. I can sit back and relax. The importance of backup, people that have your back, is highly underestimated.
And Tommy if you’re here, yay Esten for getting thru his latest episode! Speaking of which we’ve got your back!!
For people who want to join the Esten CarePage here is the linky.
Life is precious. I work to save the lives of little ones in honor of
myour brother who died after living 3 hours. We miss him and we love him. Others here at the lake are working to save the lives of people in Iraq and elsewhere by stopping the egregious misuse of power by our government.egrBrother is the new recipient of Glenn’s book. Lots of people have not read this yet. I highly recommend it as an excellent Christmas/holiday present for all thinking people. Disclaimer: I get no $ from the sales of Glenn’s book despite being related [:)]to the person who is still! the #1 Spotlight reviewer at amazon.
Ya know, some Dems are funny looking or “ugly” as well, but I hope our debate about worthiness for public service evolves to be about more than physicality.
Denny Hastert’s ugliness-on-the-inside gave us the worst US Congress ever, Kat Harris’ ugliness-on-the-inside gave us the worst President ever, and Jerry Lewis’ ugliness-on-the-inside fostered the most corrupt Defense Appropriations process our country’s ever had, and enabled him to fire all his Appropriations investigators just before Democrats could see their work.
The fact that their ugliness-on-the-inside yields funny photos doesn’t make their physical appearance the real issue, however.
dannyM @ 12
Marsupial
I’ve heard Richard Perle is fun to hang out with.
Katherine Marsupial Harris
marksb @ 26
no, she’s a former (congress) critter
TeddySanFran @ 25
Good point, since I expect the media to unearth the most insulting Pelosi photos and cartoons they can find.
punaise @ 29
No pouch? The teeth fit, and that brilliant marsupial-in-the-headlights look…
twolf1 @ 28
She might have had pouches on her frontside once, but someone slipped bags of silicon into them.
For those that never saw it, here’s Katherine Harris holding the possum.
http://www.cadenhead.org/workb.....possum.jpg
marksb @ 31
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(zig felled)
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well, she didn’t role over and play possum when it was obvious her campaign was an utter and hopeless disaster
I guess it’s because the open minded minions at Red State contribute and support their party in such an essential way, that they are not dragged through the gutter. If I could only be more of a true believer of Rahm, Chuck, and Joe.
she can go rue the day she filed to run
Punaise—I gotta go adjust some track lighting.
pun
zig felled
tis folly i tell you.
Lest we forget, the Rejected Katherine Harris Campaign Video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvbPmiW7w9c
RBG :~)
Another pun - She can go Roo the day…
egregious @ 38
of chorus
Off to piano lessons. Thanks for the smiles, the creative thinking, and of course, the snark.
bluebird @ 7
So they’re going to torture people for fun and profit?
Jane Okay it’s not really funny or anything
Sure it is.
And thank you for that, and for all such.
We honor your setting up this blog to begin with, your intelligence, your humor, your beauty, your determination, and your drive to see the bad guys thwarted once and for all.
I have been trying to imagine the hilarity of the calls to the Chimperor on Tuesday night/Wed. AM (??) regarding the fact that those polls they were reading (???) were all wrong, the Repugs were sent to the corner, long time out. That could be a barrel o’lafs. How he reacted when (who???) called to start in with the Come to Daddy routine. . .musta been torcha!!
I still think they will all be ready for the waterboard in favor of the inevitable long and slow screw they gonna have when the hearings on the high (???) crimes of the 21st C. are coming into view. Ha Ha Ha. GThat’s gonna be really funny. I know I will be ROTFLMAO.
Here is a little linky to a writer who says it will be the Repugs making the late nite (???) visit to Chimpy and Pimpy about their forced resignation to save Repug ass in ‘08.
http://www.opednews.com/articl.....public.htm
gunwales is an underused word and it always pleases me to see it.
Pardon me if this has already been noted, and/or if punaise has already had at it…
Headline from boston.com via RawStory link: “Lieberman won’t rule out GOP caucusing”
Shouldn’t that be “Lieberman won’t rule out GOP c*cks*cking” ?
…and isn’t it too late for Joey to rule out an action he’s already mastered?
As in you’ll never fit those gunwales into those shoes? Ouch.
OK, here’s the deal, IMHO.
To the extent that a person or a faction is fascist in tendency, that person or faction CANNOT, by default, be funny.
[And as a corollary which I’ll leave as an aside for now, that fascistic person or faction of persons cannot produce genuine art of ANY sort.]
If the word “fascist” is too loaded, let’s stick with “right-wing authoritarian.” (It’s really the same thing, IMO, but maybe the phrase goes down more easily than the concept of fascism, which our local home-grown fascists have been doing their best to destroy for any meaningful linguistic purpose with all their “Islamofascist” nonsense.)
Fascists/RWAs are bullies. Bullies are not funny — except inadvertently, of course (cf. Charlie Chaplin’s “The Great Dictator” and other examples too numerous to cite).
Unless you too are a sociopath who finds humor in things like, I dunno, setting fire to a homeless man as he sleeps on a park bench, or maybe pushing a disabled person in a wheelchair down a flight of stairs, or seeing the face of a mother who is turned away from medical care for her sick child because she doesn’t have money — etc. etc., you get the idea, I think, — there is nothing whatsoever genuinely funny about fascist/right wing authoritarian world-views.
I’m sure John Birch Society meetings have hardly been knee-slappers of hilarity. And what has the right brought as a contribution to culture in the last six years but the ugliness of a John Birch Society meeting?
Yeah, Rush Limbaugh was hilarious with his arm-flapping slapstick take on Parkinson’s, wasn’t he?
The new Fox show will flop. (That is, to the extent that it reflects a fascistic, right-wing authoritarian world-view it WILL flop.)
Professor Foland @ 47
“I’m gunwale wash that man right outta my hair”
two beers @ 48
He likes it both ways. L4L.
Professor Foland @
47
Allow me to suggest Patrick O’brian. Over twenty Aubrey/Maturin novels, chocked full of nautical references, gunwales ain’t the half of it.
MayDaze @ 44
Only if they make us watch it.
bluebird @ 7
More wingnut welfare.
Don’t hunt with Cheney, his gunwale get ya
Jane,
At least your post is funny.
I just don’t know what those mean ol’ “Bush-Bashers” at Red State are thinking. Why can’t we have civil discourse without stooping to the disrespect of our Commander In Chief?
Very powerful, thank you.
and can I just say, ‘obama lama ding dong’?
The sad thing about the Colbert report clip is that it was spot-on (well, he went a little overboard with terrorist clone army made from stem cells etc.). Other than that, I think it echoed the LGF crowd and freepers sentiments. Jesus’s General had some good quotes from the site on election night.
A second national JAR poll (33%) just confirmed the results of Newsweek’s 31% JAR poll yesterday… Bush’s post election approval rating is at new lows. me like.
http://usatoday.com/news/washi.....poll_x.htm
“I don’t think we’ll be seeing the Steven Colbert of the right any time soon, but they may well work themselves up a Howie Mandel or a Carrot Top or two”
Scaring up the next Gallagher could help them wean off the napalm and willie pete.
Mrs. K8 @ 50
You are so right. That’s why they all went ballistic about 20 years ago when women and queers and black folks said enough of making fun of us for humor.
That’s when they invented the phrase “politically correct”, as if it was somehow an outrage to be asked to be civil to other human beings.
Whenever someone complains about having to be politically correct, tell them to substitute the work “polite” for “politically correct”. It means the same.
bluebird @
7
let me guess….Andrew Dice Clay?
I just forwarded the Colbert piece to a wingnut friend of mine. He recently expressed to me his irrational fear that Nancy Pelosi would unleash her armies of gay men to break into his house and redecorate it.
OT
Election Integrity remains front and center in spite of the blue wave of oh-six.
My main man Bad Otis Link videotaped possible electoral fraud on 11/7/06 at the Orange County Registrar of Voters {1300 Building C | South Grand Avenue | Santa Ana CA 92705 | 714.567.7600.}
http://videothevote.org/thumbdrive.wmv
That thumb drive didn’t belong within a 100 yards of that building. The perp acts hinky as hell!
Mrs. K8,
I haven’t found the link, but they say Mussolini was a hoot with a whoopie cushion.
Seriously, though, there’s no help for authoritarianism ever being remotely droll. It’s very purpose is suppression and humor is, by definition, a form of expression.
Twisted Martini @ 64
do you think that would help?
new drape envy
Seriously though…
Can you imagine a rightwing Colbert?
I guess the first problem would be that out progressive (or pinko as my Dad used to say) heros are already
intentional comedians.
Hard to parody a comedian.
Twisted Martini @ 64
They won’t come near this old wreck with a swath of fabric. We’re too broke and fusty. I keep hoping.
Twisted Martini - wish Nancy would send them to my house - it really needs decorating!
Have they taken down all the artwork in the White House that shows any of the authors’ of the Constitution?
“It’s just a goddamn piece of paper”
Mack @ 67
What, the armies of gay men or forwarding the post?
BTW, I have to give credit for that riff to Robin Williams. On his first comedy album, he opens by saying “while you were at the show, groups of gay men have broken into your houses and redecorated them.” Or words to that effect. So h/t Mork. Nanoo Nanoo!
JohnSwifty @ 18
Hmmm, I don’t think that’s it; I think it’s that liberal political humor makes fun of the powerful, and conservative political “humor” makes fun of the powerless. Other conservatives are the only people who find that funny rather than cruel.
I’ve got a post about Deb Pryce, the incumbant Representative from Ohio’s 15th district, up at Howard-Empowered People. Her opponent, Mary Jo Kilroy, has not conceded, because she wants the absentee and provisional ballots counted first. Pryce says, through a spokesman, that the Democrats are trying to “steal the election”, like they did in Florida.
Just when I start thinking Freud’s ideas are obsolete, Republicans prove me wrong.
Renee in Ohio @ 75
Forget Freud, how about Darwin?
JohnSwifty @ 66
If fascism/right wing authoritarianism is incapable of producing genuine humor, or ANY form of genuine art, then what does that say about the validity of that particular world-view?
Any world-view which denies the very best aspects of being human is a fraudulent world-view, inherently doomed to ultimate failure.
It’s really a shame that such political/cultural world-views are described with the terms “right” and “left,” because that kind of language implies that they somehow balance each other, or that they are mirror images of each other. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
It IS true that extreme so-called “left” forms of government have led to totalitarianism (Stalin, Mao), but once again we’re talking about allegiance to complete authoritarianism. Such totalitarian states are almost identical in their effects, whether they are fascist, or “right,” on the one hand, or “left” forms of Stalinism or Maoist ideology. On a spectrum envisioned more as a circle which loops around “in the back,” so to speak, they meet at the place where they become completely authoritarian.
It’s also NOT true that if you simply shoot for a mushy middle between “left” and “right” that you’ll end up, by default, with fairness and justice for all, and the freedom necessary for human creativity to flourish.
There really needs to be a new kind of language to describe these cultural/political states in society. Perhaps a language which doesn’t rely on SPATIAL conceptualizations (left, right, up, down). I wish I knew where to find such a better language!
TwistedMartini, I don’t know of anyone who thinks Darwin is obsolete. Too “modern” for their liking, perhaps, but not obsolete.
Redshift @ 74
By that definition Conservatives have begun being cruel to each other since Tuesday night.
The only Republican humor is laced with hatred. That’s why George is the hero of Republicans — he does their kind of humor really well.
His ‘no nukes here’ bit probably wasn’t appreciated by other Repubs at all. It was too nuanced.
—-
Watch for stories about Israelis using some kind of small nuclear bunker-buster bomb against Lebanon and of Bushies trying to provoke Iranians into war over some north-eastern Iranian territory. Bush wants us to be at war soon, so he can be the first American president in three separate wars at once. Presumably he figures he won’t lose them all.
Mack @ 69
Well, actually, I seriously believe that this market is already tapped-out by the likes of Coulter. Their audience is giddy with tears every time she says something outrageous.. they billow with laughter, applause and changes of usa! usa! usa! everytime she suggests that one of us should be shot as a traitor or that an American flag over Mecca might be a good idea. That IS redneck conservative humor.. ubber-patriotic, angry, mean, outrageous and bigotted.
gooper humor? Review Mallard Fillmore-
Redshift @
74
Well you’re right on both counts. So, if you and I both agree that conservative “humor” isn’t humorous then it isn’t humor at all (probably more a social disease, if anything). So then, I’m back to my old saw that liberal ideas are much more expansive by nature and so the things that interest and amuse us are diverse and ironic. It is the irony, the satire, the zigging when I thing a zagging is in order…those are the things that make me laugh (that and punaise’s awful puns). Conservatives: I don’t know but I think the zigging and the zagging just give them gas. Now, I think that’s funny!
rwcole @ 82
And there’s always B.C. for the Fundie Funnies.
Mrs. K8 at 77:
Insiders/Outsiders?
Thanks for your eloquent writing today. I always enjoy what you write, Mrs. K8, and it always make me think.
I heard a thing over the weekend talking about how the paradigm needs to change from love of power to power of love.
Love it!!
TeddySanFran @ 85
Coming from you, Teddy, that’s a real compliment.
And it makes me feel less useless than I would otherwise feel, being cut off as I am from lots of the mix-it-up of daily social interaction and general hub-bub, which I still miss a lot.
Now I’m going to wrestle on my wetsuit so I can have a late night p.t. session in the pool — but while working out there it will make me smile inside to think that ideas shared through this mysterious medium can constitute a real connection with others (tho’ paradoxically just “virtual”!) in this human condition we all struggle with.
Thank you for that.
And thanks to our wonderful hosts for creating this amazing space, and to each and every contributor to our conversation! Each one so very valuable.
SamTheLurker @ 84
I am mysteriously drawn to B.C. in the Sunday paper — I guess I try to discern the Fundie dog-whistle message — but I just don’t get it. Its humorlessness is quite impenetrable –much beyond Nancy, and about on par with Henry (but utterly lacking the great charm of those great strips of days gone by).
uncle toby @ 88
Oddly, I remember B.C. being funny in its early days. It (or its author) just got steadily crankier and weirder as time went on.
Mrs. K8 @ 77
Mrs. K8,
It’s been so long, but I think you must be a closeted German philosopher. You’ve described the inevitable downward spiral of authoritarianism in terms of Nietschze’s nihilism. And the conceptualization that you long for seems reminiscent of Kant’s ideas of perception; that we are a “tabula rasa” ready to be active participants in our own descriptions of society rather than encumbered by misrepresented verbiage.
I have also argued (usually over a glass of scotch or two) that it is silly to try and represent the human experience as a single linear aspect of right/left, liberal/conservative. And, I think that you are exactly right in pointing out that Aristotle’s “golden mean” of those poorly framed constructs leads to heavy leaden results. Even to expand a mental image of the human condition and say that the ‘mean’ is a central hub, like spokes in a bicycle tire, and each paired spoke is a description of some element of the human psyche, isn’t that still really two dimensional and noticeably finite?
Expand this poor physical model to a third dimension and make it a koosh ball. Doesn’t it still lack nuance and romance and magic in it’s limited capacity.
If we can believe string theorists, there are mathematical proofs for 10 physical dimensions of our reality; and, Ed Witten provides the truly golden key to show a combining, intertwining eleventh in what we think of as our ‘physical’ reality. Now, I can’t think in those terms, but I would like to imagine that the magic of the human condition, as endowed by the creator, is even beyond those physical barriers.
Call me a romantic (or a raving fool, both apply), but in terms of compressing the chaos of all aspects of human thought and emotion and nuance and love into a single linear concept of “left” and “right” well, I think that’s just freakin’ hilarious!
Thanks so much for you thoughts. I think this community is richer for them.
They have Dennis Miller.
I would not lose any sleep just yet.
two beers @
63
Nope. Patricia Heaton. You know, the right-wing comedic genius who keeps everyone from hating Raymond?
Yeah. She’s teh funnie.
LOL… I think the audience kinda missed that joke about Indians dealing with foreign ememies that were bent on their destruction. That or Stephen in a rare attack of comic mistiming ran over the laugh.
No riff on the humor side.
So far as Martinez is concerned I was really hoping they’d appoint Elizabeth Dole.
But God doesn’t like me that much.