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		<title>By: katie fite</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/all-smoke-no-fire/#comment-382098</link>
		<dc:creator>katie fite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-381736&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mrs. K8 @ 17 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hmmmm.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How can we get to the bottom of this?  Do you think Harry would take a call from bloggers to discuss this matter?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-381736"><em>Mrs. K8 @ 17 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Hmmmm.</p>
<p>How can we get to the bottom of this?  Do you think Harry would take a call from bloggers to discuss this matter?</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/all-smoke-no-fire/#comment-382095</link>
		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Never mind his nasty little self-serving private land deals, Harry Reid has quietly gotten away with being the consummate dealer in PUBLIC land for years. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The LA Times has done an incredible job covering his machinations over several years. Remember the recent attempts by Bush and congressional Republicans to sell off or give away public lands? Reid’s been selling off public land in Nevada for years to help his development friends and use land sale proceeds to subsidize unsustainable development in Las Vegas (also known as the Mojave Desert). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Big Enviro enablers support (or in some cases just decline to oppose) his bills because they believe that he will continue to help them with their poster issue–saving the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. A deserving cause, but o the pubblic lands that have suffered as a result….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See the westernlands.org website, especially:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.westernlands.org/assets/LATDesert_Conn.pdf&quot;&gt;http://www.westernlands.org/as.....t_Conn.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.westernlands.org/HarryReid.pdf&quot;&gt;http://www.westernlands.org/HarryReid.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.westernlands.org/Harveycorridor.pdf&quot;&gt;http://www.westernlands.org/Harveycorridor.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind his nasty little self-serving private land deals, Harry Reid has quietly gotten away with being the consummate dealer in PUBLIC land for years. </p>
<p>The LA Times has done an incredible job covering his machinations over several years. Remember the recent attempts by Bush and congressional Republicans to sell off or give away public lands? Reid’s been selling off public land in Nevada for years to help his development friends and use land sale proceeds to subsidize unsustainable development in Las Vegas (also known as the Mojave Desert). </p>
<p>Big Enviro enablers support (or in some cases just decline to oppose) his bills because they believe that he will continue to help them with their poster issue–saving the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. A deserving cause, but o the pubblic lands that have suffered as a result….</p>
<p>See the westernlands.org website, especially:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.westernlands.org/assets/LATDesert_Conn.pdf">http://www.westernlands.org/as&#8230;..t_Conn.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.westernlands.org/HarryReid.pdf">http://www.westernlands.org/HarryReid.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.westernlands.org/Harveycorridor.pdf">http://www.westernlands.org/Harveycorridor.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: katie fite</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/all-smoke-no-fire/#comment-382093</link>
		<dc:creator>katie fite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-381768&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jim in LA @ 46 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;there are parts of bullhead that are best suited to toothless, meth-head biker types, so it doesn’t surprise me that some land (at that time) was considered less than valuable. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if this land isn’t right on the river, or directly across the street from frontage property, it may not have been worth that much. anything out of town and forget it - you’re better off putting a trailer on it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;still, reid does have a lot of these little chirping crickets that seem to follow him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i think that may be the nature of being from Nevada, one of the last bastions of Shady Dealdom.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey - I loved your comment on  Nevada. I work on BLM/public lands isues here - and “SHADY DEALDOM” is indeed what the whole state is about - and the shady deals pervade public lands management (mis). I always have the feeling that I only know a part of what is really going on …..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-381768"><em>Jim in LA @ 46 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>there are parts of bullhead that are best suited to toothless, meth-head biker types, so it doesn’t surprise me that some land (at that time) was considered less than valuable. </p>
<p>if this land isn’t right on the river, or directly across the street from frontage property, it may not have been worth that much. anything out of town and forget it &#8211; you’re better off putting a trailer on it.</p>
<p>still, reid does have a lot of these little chirping crickets that seem to follow him.</p>
<p>i think that may be the nature of being from Nevada, one of the last bastions of Shady Dealdom.</p>
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<p>Hey &#8211; I loved your comment on  Nevada. I work on BLM/public lands isues here &#8211; and “SHADY DEALDOM” is indeed what the whole state is about &#8211; and the shady deals pervade public lands management (mis). I always have the feeling that I only know a part of what is really going on …..</p>
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		<title>By: Duckman GR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/all-smoke-no-fire/#comment-382077</link>
		<dc:creator>Duckman GR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are we still buying the gopper spin?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jeebus people, like somebody said upstream, unless it’s riverfront or right around the bridge, there’s no “there” there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christ on a fucking Viking Pyre, its all BULLSHIT!  They’re grasping at straws.  Of course these crickets keep following Harry, he’s the Senate Democratic Leader for fucks sake.  He has power.  Tear him down, spread bullshit rumors via sludge and what not, and watch a bunch of nervous nellie Democrats run with it, that’s gop politics 101.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if anybody here thinks I’m talking to them, they’re damn fucking right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Knut, I gotta disagree about lieberman.  They could have beaten that two bit punk.  All they would have needed to do was support the god damned DEMOCRAT on the ballot from day one.  Reid blew that by offering him seniority when he should have offered him a ride to the Pine Barrens in New Jersey.  Then no Democrats would have been confused about what lieberman was and is, a gopper thug.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now we have that turd blackmailing the Democrats in the Senate, and I’ll be the first to tell them I told you so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we still buying the gopper spin?</p>
<p>Jeebus people, like somebody said upstream, unless it’s riverfront or right around the bridge, there’s no “there” there.</p>
<p>Christ on a fucking Viking Pyre, its all BULLSHIT!  They’re grasping at straws.  Of course these crickets keep following Harry, he’s the Senate Democratic Leader for fucks sake.  He has power.  Tear him down, spread bullshit rumors via sludge and what not, and watch a bunch of nervous nellie Democrats run with it, that’s gop politics 101.</p>
<p>And if anybody here thinks I’m talking to them, they’re damn fucking right.</p>
<p>And Knut, I gotta disagree about lieberman.  They could have beaten that two bit punk.  All they would have needed to do was support the god damned DEMOCRAT on the ballot from day one.  Reid blew that by offering him seniority when he should have offered him a ride to the Pine Barrens in New Jersey.  Then no Democrats would have been confused about what lieberman was and is, a gopper thug.</p>
<p>Now we have that turd blackmailing the Democrats in the Senate, and I’ll be the first to tell them I told you so.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut Wicksell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/all-smoke-no-fire/#comment-381983</link>
		<dc:creator>Knut Wicksell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This whole business is Rethug swiftboating, pure and simple.  Reid’s not a crook, and we shouldn’t fall for the Whitewaterwash that is surfacing.  Do you think for a minute that this isn’t coming out of the usual Rethug oppo research tanks funded by Mellon-Scaife?  Give it a break.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As to Lieberman, Reid was between a rock and a hard place.  He judged that Lieberman would win anyway because the thugs were behind him and given that judgment did what he had to do.  Given the size of Lieberman’s majority, that judgment seems correct.  The money was better spent in TN, AZ MO, MT and VA, where it did us some good, even in the states we lost.  For his part, Lamont drained thug money out of those campaigns.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s get on with it.  At present, I’m happier with Reid at the helm that I would have been if Daschle were still there.  He’s tough, and makes a good pair with Pelosi.  That’s what we need right now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole business is Rethug swiftboating, pure and simple.  Reid’s not a crook, and we shouldn’t fall for the Whitewaterwash that is surfacing.  Do you think for a minute that this isn’t coming out of the usual Rethug oppo research tanks funded by Mellon-Scaife?  Give it a break.  </p>
<p>As to Lieberman, Reid was between a rock and a hard place.  He judged that Lieberman would win anyway because the thugs were behind him and given that judgment did what he had to do.  Given the size of Lieberman’s majority, that judgment seems correct.  The money was better spent in TN, AZ MO, MT and VA, where it did us some good, even in the states we lost.  For his part, Lamont drained thug money out of those campaigns.  </p>
<p>Let’s get on with it.  At present, I’m happier with Reid at the helm that I would have been if Daschle were still there.  He’s tough, and makes a good pair with Pelosi.  That’s what we need right now.</p>
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		<title>By: CathiefromCanada</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/all-smoke-no-fire/#comment-381957</link>
		<dc:creator>CathiefromCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m one of the people who actually believed Clinton when he said he didn’t have sex with that woman.  So take anything I say with a bag of salt — but I do think its possible that both these stories are being inflated.&lt;br /&gt;
The LA Times says that the bridge “could add value” to Reid’s property.  Any reference for that?  Or is it just assumed that Reid would not have supported a bridge unless it benefited him, even though the property is apparently miles away from the bridge site.&lt;br /&gt;
And some questionable person sold Reid a $10,000 portion of a plot of land which was valued at $325,000?  Well, how much of the plot was actually owned by the other guy in the first place?  If it was 5 per cent, then the $10,000 figure isn’t so far out.&lt;br /&gt;
I just don’t think its right to try to “take down” Reid (possibly the only man in America who has a chance of controlling Liebermann now) just because Lamont lost.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m one of the people who actually believed Clinton when he said he didn’t have sex with that woman.  So take anything I say with a bag of salt — but I do think its possible that both these stories are being inflated.<br />
The LA Times says that the bridge “could add value” to Reid’s property.  Any reference for that?  Or is it just assumed that Reid would not have supported a bridge unless it benefited him, even though the property is apparently miles away from the bridge site.<br />
And some questionable person sold Reid a $10,000 portion of a plot of land which was valued at $325,000?  Well, how much of the plot was actually owned by the other guy in the first place?  If it was 5 per cent, then the $10,000 figure isn’t so far out.<br />
I just don’t think its right to try to “take down” Reid (possibly the only man in America who has a chance of controlling Liebermann now) just because Lamont lost.</p>
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		<title>By: dab from CT</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/all-smoke-no-fire/#comment-381955</link>
		<dc:creator>dab from CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-381758&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GSD @ 37 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hope all of those loyal Democrats in Connecticut are happy that Traitor Joe is now “entertaining” a switch to the Republican party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heckuva job.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lieberman was primarily elected by Republicans and Independents. 80% of the Dems voted for Lamont.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is the Dem leadership who need to answer for the situation they allowed to happen. If Clinton, Obama and others had campaigned for Lamont or given him real assistance, he would be our junior Senator from Connecticut.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-381758"><em>GSD @ 37 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I hope all of those loyal Democrats in Connecticut are happy that Traitor Joe is now “entertaining” a switch to the Republican party.</p>
<p>Heckuva job.</p>
<p>-GSD</p>
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<p>Lieberman was primarily elected by Republicans and Independents. 80% of the Dems voted for Lamont.</p>
<p>It is the Dem leadership who need to answer for the situation they allowed to happen. If Clinton, Obama and others had campaigned for Lamont or given him real assistance, he would be our junior Senator from Connecticut.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If he is in the wrong he should suffer the corresponding punishment. Fortunately there are untainted replacements in the Democratic party. The Republicans had few members that weren’t dirty in one way or another.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he is in the wrong he should suffer the corresponding punishment. Fortunately there are untainted replacements in the Democratic party. The Republicans had few members that weren’t dirty in one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael Nerode</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/13/all-smoke-no-fire/#comment-381887</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael Nerode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, yeah, this stuff actually looks suspicious, unlike the Obama story you followed it with.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, yeah, this stuff actually looks suspicious, unlike the Obama story you followed it with.</p>
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		<title>By: MasonMcd</title>
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		<dc:creator>MasonMcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m just happy not to need Visio, or some org charting software to keep track of the corruption.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So and so got a sweetheart deal. OK. Hold feet to the fire, or chuck ‘em out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m just happy not to need Visio, or some org charting software to keep track of the corruption.</p>
<p>So and so got a sweetheart deal. OK. Hold feet to the fire, or chuck ‘em out.</p>
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