
This is the third time in recent memory that serious questions have been raised about Harry Reid's ethics violations. The first two were generated by John Solomon of the AP, a guy I do not trust based on his williness to do Karl Rove's bidding (among other sins). But the LA Times now alleges that Reid has been less-than-forthcoming about his work for earmarks that increased the value of his personal holdings:
[L]ast year's huge $286-billion federal transportation bill included a little-noticed slice of pork pushed by Reid that provided benefits not only for the casino town of Laughlin, Nev., but also, possibly, for the senator himself.
Reid called funding for construction of a bridge over the Colorado River, among other projects, "incredibly good news for Nevada" in a news release after passage of the 2005 transportation bill. He didn't mention, though, that just across the river in Arizona, he owns 160 acres of land several miles from proposed bridge sites and that the bridge could add value to his real estate investment.
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Nowhere in Reid's statements about the project was any mention of his Bullhead City land holdings; he does list it on his Senate financial disclosure forms. He valued the Arizona land at $500,000 to $1 million in his most recent disclosure, which reported total assets of at least $2.2 million.
And according to Paul Keil of the TPM Muckraker:
Reid's office claims that there was a great need for the bridge so that trucks wouldn't have to drive 23 miles out of their way to cross the Colorado. And regarding the Haycock deal, the Times article says "[t}he low price resulted from Haycock's need to sell and Reid's lack of interest in buying." (I'm personally not familiar with the phenomenon of wealthy people selling six-figure assets for a fraction of their cost out of desperation, but perhaps there is a raging crack problem in the Nevada petroleum industry we have heretofore been ignorant of.) Anyway, I'm sure that as Majority Leader, Reid's activities will no doubt be scrutinized much and things that may have gone unnoticed in the past will be raised to the level of media attention. And all may be just as innocent as Reid's office claims. Still, since voters rushed the GOP bums out the door out of disgust with their corruption issues, electing Reid as majority leader right now does not have the absolute best optics.
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Fitz?
Wow, and I read the post first and everything…
When Reid gets his dander up and decides to fight, he’s great. But he doesn’t do it often enough, and I hold him at least partly responsible for Lieberman’s election, the gutting of habeas corpus, and the confirmation of Alito.
We have a Democratic Senate now; how about a more Democratic majority leader? And yes, if he’s dirty, the Democrats should make an example of him to demonstrate just how not-Republican they are.
Probably not, but what’s your second choice?
Good for you, for pointing this out. Democrats don’t need to protect their own the way the Repubs did. Sunshine for all of it, no “carrying water,” as Rush described it. If the Dems don’t try to justify or cover up wrong behavior, they take away the stick that the GOP would otherwise use to beat them.
JohnSwifty @ 2
I suppose Feingold would be too much to hope for…
Actually, my first choice would be to bring Paul Wellstone (D-Monkey’s Paw) back from the grave…
OfT: Dobbs kicking ass on D. Hunter (Wingnut-CA)
Conversely, if under absolute microscopic scrutiny Reid’s land deals don’t pass the smell test, looking elsewhere for a majority leader is imperative… lest the smoking gun be a steaming pile…
This sounds so much like the situation we’ve had here in Illinois with Hastert. I would like to give Reid the benefit of the doubt, but it doesn’t sound good.
I don’t think it’s quite fair to think of the Laughlin bridge as a boondoggle. It’s going to be a very useful piece of construction, and is in an obvious spot.
Now, whether Reid bought the Bullhead City land knowing that he could influence getting that bridge built, that’s another story and one that should be looked into.
Tapei airport erects monument to Vice President Dick Cheney.
Some folks are offended.
-GSD
ThatSinger @ 7
I would love to see them make it a bankshot against Hastert; something along the lines of, “It’s not okay when a Republican congressman uses his position for personal gain, even if he’s the Speaker Of The House, and it’s not okay when a Democratic Senator does it, even if he’s the Majority Leader.” (Only better and articulater)
So, if Reid goes down for this, the new repub governor gets to choose a replacement. What happens then to the Democratic majority hold on the Senate??
JohnSwifty @
3
Durbin?
newtonusr @ 7
Damn! I’m at work; hafta wait until it cycles back at CNN. Or maybe C&L will show it or maybe Duncan. Sometimes the transcripts are only so much fun.
The other night when I was watching ‘Real Time with Bill Maher’ the Republican from Arizona (?)was talking about this. I know, I didn’t know about this crap.
Gary @ 11
I guess it would be gone, then. But I think the scenario we’re talking about is that he loses his position as Majority Leader. But if it’s bad enough that he loses his seat entirely, well, so be it.
Hmmmm.
How can we get to the bottom of this? Do you think Harry would take a call from bloggers to discuss this matter?
Eli @ 16
That would be Governor Gibbons, aka Mr. Clean.
No tears from me about anything that happens to Reid. Not a one.
JohnSwifty @
3
Someone pro-choice, to start. Ethics would be icing.
I like Durbin, FWIW.
OT - Charlie Rangel on Lou Dobbs
TeddySanFran @ 18
If you replace a Majority Leader for ethics issues, ethics are more than just icing when it comes to his successor.
I vote for Dick Durbin.
[And for anyone interested, I posted a somewhat nervewracking Libby case/Fitz update @ #103 of the preceding thread.]
GSD @
11
Those who are offended, however, post photos of it on their own websites. In order to offend others, I presume. Talibangelistas worldwide, unite! End sex now!
I will make a distinction between bringing government money home to your district versus PERSONALLY profiting from government decisions.
Ok what now?
Gary @
13
I don’t think he should resign… unless (God forbid) he’s done something illegal… if he’s acted less-than-ethically, he shouldn’t be elected Majority Leader though…
Eli @ 12,
Your “bankshot” idea was articulate and the message comes across loud and clear. I hope this gets cleared up before January.
Durbin or Feingold imho would be very good choices.
Well…I understand fears about resignation…but it’s not as if the Repubs won’t lose a few, maybe in blue states. I mean, there’s Abramoff, FoleyGate and whatever Conyers and Waxmen may uncover, as well as who knows whatever ethical cases that may be proceeding. I’m for letting the wild rumpus begin.
Apple Canyon 2 @ 25
Thanks! I wonder if the Democratic ethics panel will be taking a look into Hastert’s land and page-harassment-covering-up deals…
Is anyone else feeling a post election letdown?
grayslady @ 9
By chance do you live in NE Illinois?
Eli @ 3:36 pm (#5)
Feingold, Kerry, Durbin, or Boxer. Clinton or Feinstein might be good choices, as well.
mayan @ 26
Ah, but are any of those Senators?
That being said, I think Conyers, Waxman, Dingell, Rangel, and Obey will inflict more damage than anyone the Democratic Senate could give a chair to.
Apple Canyon 2 @ 32
All my life.
Bad optics indeed.
I hope all of those loyal Democrats in Connecticut are happy that Traitor Joe is now “entertaining” a switch to the Republican party.
Heckuva job.
-GSD
Well, I guess bloggers have ethics problems, too, by Judith effing Miller’s account, according to thinkprogress.
Ok lets get real on this bridge and land value issue. There are sections of the Colorado river where you have to drive 100’s of miles to cross. The area of the bridge is a high growth area and is needed. Land values have sky rocketed here in AZ, as a point the house I bought in 1998 for $135K is valued at 500K now.
You cannot equate what Hastert land deal with this. It is the same Repug lie == Dem lie when it is Repug causes people to die is equal to mispeaking about the cost of the war. I am not going to fall into the trap of try to catch every Democrat in corruption. I want cold hard facts from someone who knows Arizona/Nevada.
grayslady,
I used to teach in Grayslake in the 70’s. I always wondered about your chosen name.
klyde @ 31
I did, but that lasted about four days. We still have a lot of work to do up here in CT, not the least of which is to finish the 2nd Cong. Dist. recount, which just got a LOT closer today when a transcibing error erased Democrat Courtney’s 171-vote lead which now stands at 66. Less than half the towns are done.
So we’re keeping busy here. Plus there’s other stuff we have going on. I feel the activists among us are getting wound up again.
not a fair and balanced proposal: Boxer
(completing the SF woman liberal ticket)
klyde @ 30
Still tired and brain not quite functioning up to par. Running for days on adrenaline in the last few days can do that. It takes a while to clear out of the system.
Off topic but of interest to many here
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/.....54174p.pdf
O.K. gotta run. Play nice
Apple Canyon 2 @ 40
Are you anywhere in the neighborhood now?
there are parts of bullhead that are best suited to toothless, meth-head biker types, so it doesn’t surprise me that some land (at that time) was considered less than valuable.
if this land isn’t right on the river, or directly across the street from frontage property, it may not have been worth that much. anything out of town and forget it - you’re better off putting a trailer on it.
still, reid does have a lot of these little chirping crickets that seem to follow him.
i think that may be the nature of being from Nevada, one of the last bastions of Shady Dealdom.
Hmmm,If things are shady,one does have to think about the wisdom of having him as a leader.If its so bad he loses his seat,sucks,but we aren’t the GOP.I’d hate to think we’re a ‘majority at all costs’party.
grayslady @ 44,
Northwest Illinois. Still teaching with two years to go.
Taught Social Studies and coached varsity basketball at the time.
Not a popular choice, but I always figured that Hillary would replace Reid as Majority Leader, once she figures out that she can’t win a Presidential election.
She is smart, and she will come to that conclusion eventually. Current evidence to the contrary.
OT
Gilliard is an ace at juxtaposition. In this case a Bush twin with a full pocket. . . .
If Reid is going to get slimed, he should be replaced. The rethugs will go after the majority leader regardless of whom it is. If Reid is gonna go down, he should bow out now. He is not that strong as a leader.
randiego –
Thanks for that bit of input. I actually toyed with that idea of Hillary a while ago, and then forgot about it!
I think it’s a good one. She has the potential to be a kind of female LBJ (in terms of effectiveness, I mean — I would hope she’d not pick up the bathroom humor or the picking up beagles by the ears business).
But she’d never go for that, would she? Hill wants not the Hill (Capitol), but the WH.
katymine @
39
Whether or not the bridge was needed is less of an issue for me than the fact that Reid did not disclose the value of his land would probably increase as a result of it.
The difference I see between left blogs and right blogs is exemplified in this post. Don’t know the answers but unafraid to expose the questions.
Yeah, baby! Good government first, America first.
The right sites and broadcasters are admitting they’ve been lying and “carrying the water.”
Apple Canyon 2 @ 47
We should meet. Are you in IL-08 by chance?
I certainly don’t think Sen. Clinton would be much of an improvement on Sen. Reid (she’s better on pro-choice but worse on backbone lately), and she’s pretty junior anyway.
We don’t want to carry water– we want to carry math! I think any of the scandals that come up should be compared in $$ to Halliburton’s waste and ExxonMobil’s tax cut, see how many orders of magnitude away they are.
By the way (OT), Raw Story has this up about Joe Lie. hinting that he’s leaning Dem but would go GOP if he doesn’t feel comfortable (lit.) with the Dems.
I still wanna know if Harry would be open to a phone call discussing this.
If things are as katymine suggests might be the case, you’d think Harry would be able to explain it in a reasonable fashion, no?
Oops. Just realized when you said NW you’re probably over by Rockford. Yes?
hackworth @ 49,
You are absolutely right!
We need a “clean” slate. Look, it only took less than a week before the slime machine started cranking up. “See, they do it too, what is the difference?”
Lyrebird @ 55
So let’s give him a pillow for his back.
Although I’d rather he stuff it in his mouth to keep that shut for a while.
TPM has this little ditty about JoeLie:
Any surprises here? I didn’t think so.
Looks like it will be Giuliani time in NH.
Rudy plans on running.
Frankly, I’ll take him over Slappy McCain anyday.
Giuliani had the maturity to finally abolish his horrendous comb-over. That tells me that he learns from his mistakes.
-GSD
Brownback/Musgrave 2008
Write it down.
Ooo, Jane, Harry really botched the Lieberman thing, didn’t he? I hope for our sake that Harry is innocent on this but I totally agree with you on one thing: Harry is not on our side.
GSD @ 61
he forgot toupee the piper
TeddySanFran @ 62
Are they running on the Theocratic ticket?
GSD @ 34
As someone pointed out, if Joe *does* defect, and the Democrats add seats in 2008 (12 Dems up for re-election vs. *21* Republicans), Joe ends up with nothing. I guess he could try to switch back, but I’m not sure that would work…
TPMmuckraker
160 acres of desert land with sage brush and cactus. In this area housing subdivisions are popping up like mushrooms and Reid would need to update his financials on this land weekly.
I want to hear from Reid before I am ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Also, the wingers are pulling out their hair over the Mel Martinez RNC pick.
Whooo, whoo! More meltdowns.
The GOP doesn’t know who to pander to anymore. Let’s see, they have now pissed off the wingers in order to offer a nod to the Latinos who were pissed at the anti-immigration campaign schtickery.
Plus the Talibangelicals are gonna be PO’d when they find out tht Mel has two high level gay staffers.
Oh the comedy, the tragedy.
-GSD
The GOP was kicked out of the leadership for corruption as much as Iraq. I’m ready to drop Reid like a funky Benjamin.
Putting Feingold in this post would put the good half of McCain-Feingold at the top of the heap, and help triangulate the old, compromised half come New Hampshire time.
punaise @ 64
Punaise -
Your mind works in wonderous ways!
I go for the Gingrich/Tancredo 08 ticket.
Because there’s not enough hate in the world.
-GSD
GSD @ 68
Maybe Our Creepy Pal Grover should run for office. I’m sure his whimsical turns of phrase about drowning and neutering and date-raping would be a big hit on the stump.
katymine @ 67
Sadly, regardless of what is said, it is often the appearance that matters. Remember how Ned Lamont quit the local country club? He understood how his membership might influence certain voting segments. IMO, Reid really should have sold the land; unless, of course, he tried to and couldn’t find a buyer.
Waccamaw: glad you don’t mind that my mind has a mind of its own :~)
My pick for republicans’ prez ticket in ‘08 is Hagel/McCain.
grayslady,
Il-16, We’re stuck with Manzullo, a do-nothing Republican, but this is a strong Repub. Dist.
We have had one Democrat for two years 90-92. The Repub slime machine put flyers on all the cars parked in church parking lots on the Sun. before the election criticizing his “pro-choice” stance. It was effective.
Do you have a “drinking liberally” organization in your area? I always wanted to attend one of those after hearing different FDL’ers talking about it, I thought I lived too far out in the sticks.
Has Heath Shuler accepted the Honorary Joe Lieberman of The House Award yet?
-GSD
bad news
http://www.rawstory.com/showar.....37_pf.html
libby gets to use some classified information
McCain/Lieberman: Down-in-Flames / Unity ‘08
that’s the ticket out of this hell-hole…
Senator Reid needs to come completely clean on all his financials. This drip-drip (or puff-puff, to stay with Jane’s smoke/fire theme) will hurt the Democratic message, agenda, and momentum. He has very little time to make things perfectly clear.
On the same note, RGJoe told Timmeh yesterday he hopes the lame-duck Congress will enact his Office of Political Integrity measure. He hopes the House will pass it too. I wonder what Hadassah-loopholes exist in this legislation, and why RGJoe is so keen to ram this through now….
Finally, I wish ill-health on no one, but I do hope that Wyoming Senator Craig Thomas’ treatment for and recovery from leukemia will show him the value of spending more time with his family. Just re-elected to a six-year term, Thomas’s resignation would empower the Democratic governor to appoint a replacement, at least until 2008, and (depending on state law) for the balance of the term.
perris, formerly known as me to me, @ 78
Saw that. We have to take the good with the bad - at least skutr won’t be able to put up an expert to tell the jurors about why his ‘”memory” would be an issue. His expert got whacked by Fitz. Trying to find link…
Here it is.
On the Clock @ 69
Many Americans think Feingold’s first name is McCain. It couldn’t hurt with low-information voters to get Feingold as Majority Leader. I wonder what Russ knows about Reid’s land deals — and whether anything he knows motivated his decision not to seek the Preznitcy.
Apple Canyon 2 @ 76
Wow. The flyer on the car routine sounds like what Lieberman did to Lamont in the primary. The closest Drinking Liberally is in Evanston, so not really convenient, but we do have a local organization that gets together periodically to meet candidates, sometimes go out to dinner at a casual spot. I think most of the members are a lot younger than I am.
I wonder what Hadassah-loopholes exist in this legislation, and why RGJoe is so keen to ram this through now….
Um, could you keep the Hadassah-loopholes separate from the ramming in all future sentences, please?
newtonusr @ 81
this doesn’t bode well, all the administration has to do is refuse to allow the classified documents, then libby can’t mount a legitimate defense and the case is dismissed
a la oliver north
graymail
Per Aravosis, some old gay self-hating news about Martinez’s staff — with one newly familiar name, Fordham.
http://www.washblade.com/2004/.....ng/two.cfm
Eli @ 84
you just hadassay that, huh?
http://www.latimes.com/news/po.....-headlines
So the citizens want a bridge so they can get to the hospital. Anyone who lives in rural areas where routes do not allow access to emergency situtations.
That is why I want to hear from Reid. I read the whole article and yes I cherry picked out points but they are there, that say that this just might be more of the “Hunting of the President” MO.
Apple Canyon 2 @ 76
By the way, chin up! We just elected our first Democratic state senator in 30 years. Hooray! Things can change.
What is this, take out the trash week? :~}
new thread
katymine @ 88 is in moderation
Totally o this t, in response to the previous thread on the definition of liberalism.
“The essence of the liberal position, however, is the denial of all privilege, if privilege is understood in its proper and original meaning of the state granting and protecting rights to some which are not available on equal terms to others.”
F.A. Hayek, from the preface of the 1956 edition of “The Road to Serfdom”, a book that has been hijacked by the right, maligned by the left, and misunderstood by both, IMO.
Eli @
6
You’re killing me man! You want me to go off on a tirade about how Dick Cheney took PW and his whole family out? ‘Cause I’ll do it!
Let’s just say Russ would be a really nice improvement over Reid, and leave it at that.
grayslady @ 87
“First Democratic state senator in 30 years.”
That sounds about right for a strongly Republican area when I was there. Geez, how do I escape these strong Repub. areas?
This past election proved change can occur if we work hard enough.
Manzullo had a lot more money than his opponent in this last one. It was off the radar screen of the Dem. financial organizations. Then again, they put their money where it was most beneficial.
Apple Canyon2 and grayslady,
I live in IL-16 and worked for Dick Auman’s campaign against Manzullo. It’s time for us to get together and figure out how to turn this gerrymandered district blue. There are a lot of farmers and rural people who for some reason buy that Rethug’s represent them better. We have 2 years to work to change that perception. It seems that there is an almost hopeless perception here about being elected as a democrat.
John Cox was swept out of office in ‘92 after the district was changed to include McHenry county after the ‘90 census. McHenry brags about having no democrats on their county board for over 100 years. But, McHenry also has some of the most fervent democratic growth in the area.
There has been talk of a drinking liberally group, as well as putting together a progressive movie club.
We had Adlai Stephenson III here in Galena to campaign for Dick Auman. He owns property here. It will take a lot of work to change this district.
grayslady and carmen,
We have two years, but I feel I want to get started right away. Someone said upthread that they were feeling down. After what we have gone through with this Bush character, I really feel energized by what happened last week.
I read with envy, all the people going to help Ned in Connecticut and being so far away, but that group really connected with each other.
I’m just happy not to need Visio, or some org charting software to keep track of the corruption.
So and so got a sweetheart deal. OK. Hold feet to the fire, or chuck ‘em out.
OK, yeah, this stuff actually looks suspicious, unlike the Obama story you followed it with.
If he is in the wrong he should suffer the corresponding punishment. Fortunately there are untainted replacements in the Democratic party. The Republicans had few members that weren’t dirty in one way or another.
GSD @ 37
Lieberman was primarily elected by Republicans and Independents. 80% of the Dems voted for Lamont.
It is the Dem leadership who need to answer for the situation they allowed to happen. If Clinton, Obama and others had campaigned for Lamont or given him real assistance, he would be our junior Senator from Connecticut.
I’m one of the people who actually believed Clinton when he said he didn’t have sex with that woman. So take anything I say with a bag of salt — but I do think its possible that both these stories are being inflated.
The LA Times says that the bridge “could add value” to Reid’s property. Any reference for that? Or is it just assumed that Reid would not have supported a bridge unless it benefited him, even though the property is apparently miles away from the bridge site.
And some questionable person sold Reid a $10,000 portion of a plot of land which was valued at $325,000? Well, how much of the plot was actually owned by the other guy in the first place? If it was 5 per cent, then the $10,000 figure isn’t so far out.
I just don’t think its right to try to “take down” Reid (possibly the only man in America who has a chance of controlling Liebermann now) just because Lamont lost.
This whole business is Rethug swiftboating, pure and simple. Reid’s not a crook, and we shouldn’t fall for the Whitewaterwash that is surfacing. Do you think for a minute that this isn’t coming out of the usual Rethug oppo research tanks funded by Mellon-Scaife? Give it a break.
As to Lieberman, Reid was between a rock and a hard place. He judged that Lieberman would win anyway because the thugs were behind him and given that judgment did what he had to do. Given the size of Lieberman’s majority, that judgment seems correct. The money was better spent in TN, AZ MO, MT and VA, where it did us some good, even in the states we lost. For his part, Lamont drained thug money out of those campaigns.
Let’s get on with it. At present, I’m happier with Reid at the helm that I would have been if Daschle were still there. He’s tough, and makes a good pair with Pelosi. That’s what we need right now.
Are we still buying the gopper spin?
Jeebus people, like somebody said upstream, unless it’s riverfront or right around the bridge, there’s no “there” there.
Christ on a fucking Viking Pyre, its all BULLSHIT! They’re grasping at straws. Of course these crickets keep following Harry, he’s the Senate Democratic Leader for fucks sake. He has power. Tear him down, spread bullshit rumors via sludge and what not, and watch a bunch of nervous nellie Democrats run with it, that’s gop politics 101.
And if anybody here thinks I’m talking to them, they’re damn fucking right.
And Knut, I gotta disagree about lieberman. They could have beaten that two bit punk. All they would have needed to do was support the god damned DEMOCRAT on the ballot from day one. Reid blew that by offering him seniority when he should have offered him a ride to the Pine Barrens in New Jersey. Then no Democrats would have been confused about what lieberman was and is, a gopper thug.
Now we have that turd blackmailing the Democrats in the Senate, and I’ll be the first to tell them I told you so.
Jim in LA @ 46
Hey - I loved your comment on Nevada. I work on BLM/public lands isues here - and “SHADY DEALDOM” is indeed what the whole state is about - and the shady deals pervade public lands management (mis). I always have the feeling that I only know a part of what is really going on …..
Never mind his nasty little self-serving private land deals, Harry Reid has quietly gotten away with being the consummate dealer in PUBLIC land for years.
The LA Times has done an incredible job covering his machinations over several years. Remember the recent attempts by Bush and congressional Republicans to sell off or give away public lands? Reid’s been selling off public land in Nevada for years to help his development friends and use land sale proceeds to subsidize unsustainable development in Las Vegas (also known as the Mojave Desert).
Big Enviro enablers support (or in some cases just decline to oppose) his bills because they believe that he will continue to help them with their poster issue–saving the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. A deserving cause, but o the pubblic lands that have suffered as a result….
See the westernlands.org website, especially:
http://www.westernlands.org/as.....t_Conn.pdf
http://www.westernlands.org/HarryReid.pdf
http://www.westernlands.org/Harveycorridor.pdf