Comments on: Dean Fires Back at Carville

By: Arcanra

Arcanra — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:16:27 +0000

Perhaps, but those of us who elected Jim Webb here in Virginia could give a rat’s ass who is responsible for getting the win, we’re wanting results from the Dems, solid results that are in line with Virginia’s values.

By: drowsy

drowsy — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:03:49 +0000

nicemonster @
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Amen. Another thought: What if Carville is the canary in the coal mine for Hillary? Are they testing to see how firm support is for Dean? I agree that the 50 state strategy must have scared the piss out of them because it’s a glaring repudiation of the blue dog power base. Maybe they just want to see what they are up against in this next cycle. If that’s the case, I think they’re getting a nice clear answer to that question…

Best comment of the bunch

By: Sally

Sally — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:56:48 +0000

I’m impressed after all this time that Dr. Dean hasn’t rolled over for the big dawgs and still tells it like it is.

Today I would vote for Pelosi over Hillary.

Tester has come across as the most sincere of the victors I have seen. He took care of Matthews with intelligence and good humor. A sight to behold.

By: deandra

deandra — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:04:06 +0000

Carville is talking like this for a couple of reasons. I haven’t heard yet that Mary Matlin, his wifey, was going to get bumped to head the RNC, but that sounds like a reason for Carville to trash Howard Dean to me. (Competition) Carville and his good buddy Emanuel are the quintessential Clintonistas. This trash talk is just in the primary stages. It’s the big machine getting in gear for Hillary Clinton ‘08. Dean was in their way in ‘04 and seems to be again in their way for ‘08. Democrats all over the nation won because of Howard Dean’s vision. Now, the Clintonistas want to present the country with a presidential loss in ‘08 as certitude should the Hildebeast run. They don’t understand. They can’t ride the wave with her. Her running will guarantee a republican WIN and another 4 more years in the White House. Carville, Emanuel need to be retired. And Hillary needs to stay in New York.

By: MacDaffy

MacDaffy — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:11:25 +0000

I’ve just finished writing emails to my current and former representatives in Congress soliciting their outright support for DNC chairman Howard Dean. I’m spamming this message in every blog I visit. http://www.dlc.org has a comments section at the bottom of its website. Post a comment there letting them know that trying to replace Howard Dean with Harold Ford will not fly.

Let them and your state, local, and federal representatives kniow that you stand behind Howard Dean and the Democratic National Committee. James Carville, Paul Begala, Al From, Harold Ford, and anyone who stands with them should be put on notice: We won’t have vultures swoop in to reap the spoils of our victory on November 7th.

By: Professor Keith Webb

Professor Keith Webb — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:14:53 +0000

Sounds like it’s time to Googlebomb James Carville if you ask me. Let’s go!

By: fahrender

fahrender — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:40:23 +0000

i wouldn’t pretend to know whether or not howard dean has ulterior motives in the work he has done so magnificently, but, it seems at least that he has been working for the good of democrats everywhere. it seems that he has been very pragmatic, and the consequences of his pragmatism are that political power in this country seems to have shifted somewhat away from the beltway and into the hands of those of us who are willing to stand up and demand something better than what the vast majority of Americans have been getting for far too long.
who’d a thunk it? james carville, fuckwad, cheney, rove, rahm, hillary, mehlman, schumer, all of these people have recognized the sound of thunder. we’ve got a large scale, slow motion, barroom brawl on our hands. watch out for people with broken whiskey bottles and pieces of furniture in their hands. keep howard’s back, and keep organizing on the local level.

dean had a brilliant idea and now we have the proof of it. it can continue to work because of it’s simplicity. we can continue to kick republican butt if we recognize that the big tent democratic party has to be a big tent. we cannot demand that every progressive idea be enacted into law. as many people who voted against the democrats even this time are proof of that. what we can do, what we can truly agree on we should place foremost. above all else:

1. honesty

2. don’t be greedy

3. care about working people

4. care for the old and the poor

5. let science and the world of ideas flourish

and most importantly,

6. protect the constitution.

the rest will follow if, and when, it is the will of the people.

By: Mr. Gumbo

Mr. Gumbo — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 06:56:56 +0000

I say shave his head anyway. That might make way for sense to infiltrate.

JC was at one time semi-amusing, as maybe the primary sharp-speaking non-PC non-Republican. Maybe even briefly useful, though probably not all that important. But he’s become at the least a pain. His domestic alliance more or less renders him a spoof.

More fundamentally, Dean is a far more important part of this recent victory than Rahm. We might need some tuning, but internecine warfare as JC is suggesting is stupid indeed.

By: JT

JT — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 06:10:12 +0000

Janeane The Acerbic Goblin: you is right. I don’t care if you ain’t on AAR anymore - don’t call yrself a goblin dear. Yr more like a, mmm, grindylow?

Anyway, I near pissed myself when I saw the Smeagol pic above. Cause it looks like Carville. Is is he sick? Is he jonesing for “the ring”? Or is he just carrying water for beltway Democrats who realize the gong has rung and a big giant hook is coming their way, and the toll on his soul has become visible?

Regardless, I ain’t gonna put up with it. Local Democrats got plenty of local insight, and will reflect back to the national party, whether they want it or not, that we have lots of good policy, populist programs to support. Raising minimum wage is an excellent start (keep in mind, it’s not a pay raise for do-nothings, it’s a keep-the-same-pay for America’s poor, who haven’t done very well in the Bush years (come to think of it, aside from your personal anectdotes, we’ve all been fucked in the last 6 years, except the richest %0.01… If that’s American Capitalism, we should all move to Nigeria!

The next two years are going to be weird. Because it’s going to be populist pushback - from the whole political spectrum - against the “Insiders” desperate to hold on to power….

Face it, aside from the “gays and abortions” dead enders, who are probably 10% of the population, the rest of the country would really like to see us make some actual progress on the things we all agree on (and there are so many I can’t go down that road right now…)

By: The Oracle

The Oracle — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 05:31:35 +0000

Howard Dean’s bold “fifty-state strategy” told all Democrats and even the Republicans that the Democratic Party was not going to concede any race in any district to the Republicans.

Now, I know that in some districts no Democrat ran against the incumbent Republican, just as in other districts no Republican ran against the incumbent Democrat, but it was the PERCEPTION that Howard Dean offered that was important.

In other words, Howard Dean rallied Democrats around the nation with his PERCEIVED nationwide strategy…which is exactly what was necessary to win the House and Senate back from the “culture of corruption” Republicans.

Anything less would have been seen as a sign of doubt on the part of Democrats, and portrayed as a sign of weakness by the Republicans.

Thus, Howard Dean’s “fifty-state strategy” was a brilliant strategem that actually led to Democrats winning seats in places no one would have ever imagined they could win…except Howard Dean.

Therefore, thank you Howard Dean for giving Democrats hope, a hope that translated into nationwide action, leading to the Democrats sweeping Congress. Thank you.