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		<title>By: njprogressive</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/09/late-late-nite-fdl-take-a-picture/#comment-377115</link>
		<dc:creator>njprogressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;AOB,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I get the same feeling every time I visit my mother in SC.  She and Dad moved there in 1987, one last transfer for Dad, with a company that moved from the Rust Belt to the south in the early 80s.  There are lots of northern transplants in the south, but progressives only seem to achieve critical mass in a few communities, like Raleigh or Asheville in NC.  Everywhere else, they’re outnumbered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just thinkin’ out loud, maybe the answer is in the netroots.  Finding one another through MeetUp, DFA, etc., and working together to build coalitions for local campaigns.  But you don’t have many natural allies, since everywhere it’s “right to work” and few if any labor unions.  I’ll think on it some more.  It’s a conversation we need to have.  I want a 50-state party.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AOB,</p>
<p>I get the same feeling every time I visit my mother in SC.  She and Dad moved there in 1987, one last transfer for Dad, with a company that moved from the Rust Belt to the south in the early 80s.  There are lots of northern transplants in the south, but progressives only seem to achieve critical mass in a few communities, like Raleigh or Asheville in NC.  Everywhere else, they’re outnumbered.</p>
<p>Just thinkin’ out loud, maybe the answer is in the netroots.  Finding one another through MeetUp, DFA, etc., and working together to build coalitions for local campaigns.  But you don’t have many natural allies, since everywhere it’s “right to work” and few if any labor unions.  I’ll think on it some more.  It’s a conversation we need to have.  I want a 50-state party.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;watertiger 61 — yeah, I caught that about NPR, what with their crap interview with Jim Webb.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clock’s ticking.  CPB is going to be hosed out, and NPR will get reformed.  Could be done as part of a return to the Fairness Doctrine, which has broad popular support.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a matter time; if we do a good job for Charlie Brown when the Doolittle shoe drops, we will continue to increase our majority, and increase our leverage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The chit we have with Lieberman is his seniority; it’s the asset other than Lieberman’s vote that is most important to the Repugs.  Reid would do well to regularly threaten to yank the seniority and committees if Lieberman doesn’t caucus with the Dems.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also think it’s time to revisit Rule 21, invoked by Reid late 2005, if 109th reconvenes to cram through some of Bush’s dirty work before the 110th is seated.  Harry needs to remind the 109th that they never satisfactorily answered the public’s questions after the last time he invoked the rule.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe that’s a positive I can take away from the last six years: I’ve learned how to fight back, I’ve acquired some verbal and operational tools to do so.  let the healing begin.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watertiger 61 — yeah, I caught that about NPR, what with their crap interview with Jim Webb.</p>
<p>Clock’s ticking.  CPB is going to be hosed out, and NPR will get reformed.  Could be done as part of a return to the Fairness Doctrine, which has broad popular support.</p>
<p>It’s a matter time; if we do a good job for Charlie Brown when the Doolittle shoe drops, we will continue to increase our majority, and increase our leverage.</p>
<p>The chit we have with Lieberman is his seniority; it’s the asset other than Lieberman’s vote that is most important to the Repugs.  Reid would do well to regularly threaten to yank the seniority and committees if Lieberman doesn’t caucus with the Dems.</p>
<p>I also think it’s time to revisit Rule 21, invoked by Reid late 2005, if 109th reconvenes to cram through some of Bush’s dirty work before the 110th is seated.  Harry needs to remind the 109th that they never satisfactorily answered the public’s questions after the last time he invoked the rule.</p>
<p>Maybe that’s a positive I can take away from the last six years: I’ve learned how to fight back, I’ve acquired some verbal and operational tools to do so.  let the healing begin.</p>
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		<title>By: An Angry Old Broad</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Angry Old Broad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So we won this election. I’m delighted and  happy,but obviously much work lies ahead.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I may get slammed for this(umm,wouldn’t be the first time,lol)but I was wondering about The South. As I’ve travelled around the blogosphere lately,I’m hearing alot of”fuck the south”stuff coming from the liberal side of things. I still feel on the outside looking in.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Umm,what about progressives who actually LIVE here? I’m not whining,nor am I defending the South,if I could leave and find a job worth leaving for,I’d pack up my family and we’d be outta here as soon as we could sell our house.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not a GA native,I moved here about 20 yrs ago when factory jobs up north began dying out,I’m a blue collar gal who couldn’t afford to go to college. I brought my liberal politics and attitudes with me. In the Atlanta metro,there are MANY transplants from other part of the country(our Hispanic community is growing by leaps and bounds too). You can go for awhile in these parts and not meet anyone who was born and raised here.Lots of folks came here from up north when the auto industry took a dump in places like Ohio and Michigan. A fair number of us are by no means conservative voters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I moved here for work,stayed because I could afford to live here and buy a home. I was only vaguely aware of politics at that time,and GA politics are a indeed quite a mess.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This won’t change until some investments are made by some sort of Dem/Progressive inroads. Right now I feel written off by my own party,like if I wanna do something constructive to help us win I have to support people who I can’t vote for in other states. My Dem challenger to the incumbant Repub for the House was a great candidate,but he was way out of his league,no money for TV ads,no visibility. He still got 30 percent of the votes without publicity,he might have had a shot at things with some investment by the Party. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know what the answer is,but if progressive politics and that whole machine won’t set foot outside of Atlanta itself(which is rather blue leaning mostly and therefore a safe bet),then how can we change anything? I know it’s considered a waste of resources to invest here politically,but it kind of leaves a true Wellstonian progressive like myself hanging and feeling abandoned. It’s very disheartening.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we won this election. I’m delighted and  happy,but obviously much work lies ahead.</p>
<p>I may get slammed for this(umm,wouldn’t be the first time,lol)but I was wondering about The South. As I’ve travelled around the blogosphere lately,I’m hearing alot of”fuck the south”stuff coming from the liberal side of things. I still feel on the outside looking in.</p>
<p>Umm,what about progressives who actually LIVE here? I’m not whining,nor am I defending the South,if I could leave and find a job worth leaving for,I’d pack up my family and we’d be outta here as soon as we could sell our house.</p>
<p>I’m not a GA native,I moved here about 20 yrs ago when factory jobs up north began dying out,I’m a blue collar gal who couldn’t afford to go to college. I brought my liberal politics and attitudes with me. In the Atlanta metro,there are MANY transplants from other part of the country(our Hispanic community is growing by leaps and bounds too). You can go for awhile in these parts and not meet anyone who was born and raised here.Lots of folks came here from up north when the auto industry took a dump in places like Ohio and Michigan. A fair number of us are by no means conservative voters.</p>
<p>I moved here for work,stayed because I could afford to live here and buy a home. I was only vaguely aware of politics at that time,and GA politics are a indeed quite a mess.</p>
<p>This won’t change until some investments are made by some sort of Dem/Progressive inroads. Right now I feel written off by my own party,like if I wanna do something constructive to help us win I have to support people who I can’t vote for in other states. My Dem challenger to the incumbant Repub for the House was a great candidate,but he was way out of his league,no money for TV ads,no visibility. He still got 30 percent of the votes without publicity,he might have had a shot at things with some investment by the Party. </p>
<p>I don’t know what the answer is,but if progressive politics and that whole machine won’t set foot outside of Atlanta itself(which is rather blue leaning mostly and therefore a safe bet),then how can we change anything? I know it’s considered a waste of resources to invest here politically,but it kind of leaves a true Wellstonian progressive like myself hanging and feeling abandoned. It’s very disheartening.</p>
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		<title>By: twolf1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/09/late-late-nite-fdl-take-a-picture/#comment-377095</link>
		<dc:creator>twolf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/11/10/oh-yeah/&quot;&gt;new thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: bbuster</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/09/late-late-nite-fdl-take-a-picture/#comment-377092</link>
		<dc:creator>bbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Florida 13th (Katherine Harris’s old seat) is going into recount. R leads by 300  votes in a race that suspiciously blanked on 1 of every 8 votes cast. Hugely suspicious undervote.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida 13th (Katherine Harris’s old seat) is going into recount. R leads by 300  votes in a race that suspiciously blanked on 1 of every 8 votes cast. Hugely suspicious undervote.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Costello</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/09/late-late-nite-fdl-take-a-picture/#comment-377091</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Speaking of taking a picture…&lt;br /&gt;
…this really got to me last night:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ykosfdl.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;http://www.ykosfdl.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;THX to NED and all the ‘HEADS’ ~ PEACE!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of taking a picture…<br />
…this really got to me last night:<br />
<a href="http://www.ykosfdl.blogspot.com/">http://www.ykosfdl.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>THX to NED and all the ‘HEADS’ ~ PEACE!</p>
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		<title>By: njprogressive</title>
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		<dc:creator>njprogressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Morning All,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a very good morning in central New Jersey.  Three cheers for Rutgers for a wonderful win against Louisville last night, from a very happy alum.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Coffee is ready.  Help yourselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Work for peace, every day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning All,</p>
<p>It’s a very good morning in central New Jersey.  Three cheers for Rutgers for a wonderful win against Louisville last night, from a very happy alum.</p>
<p>Coffee is ready.  Help yourselves.</p>
<p>Work for peace, every day.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/09/late-late-nite-fdl-take-a-picture/#comment-377089</link>
		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Morning Rayne, all,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, busy day here to.  Feel lots better about things, though.  And I find housework very therapeutic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A quick question: I saw a few reports of vote counting irregularities on Wed, then nada.  Did everything actually go OK?  BBV was watching, I know, but cards seem very close to chest.  Any word?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning Rayne, all,</p>
<p>Yeah, busy day here to.  Feel lots better about things, though.  And I find housework very therapeutic.</p>
<p>A quick question: I saw a few reports of vote counting irregularities on Wed, then nada.  Did everything actually go OK?  BBV was watching, I know, but cards seem very close to chest.  Any word?</p>
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		<title>By: watertiger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/11/09/late-late-nite-fdl-take-a-picture/#comment-377088</link>
		<dc:creator>watertiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-377086&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @&lt;br /&gt;
                60              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;‘Morning, gang.  Under the gun with a deadline today, won’t be able to hang out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still trying to come to terms with the massive shift this week, a sea change in every sense.  Feel like a too-long battered child, waiting for the next blow, in spite of conscious awareness that there won’t be one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Going to take a while to heal the unconscious after 6-plus years of damage.  Like the image of that screaming harpy who got in my face and spat at me that I was a baby-killer back in 2004, after a Bush rally…that harpy is still out there, even if I know she’s powerless to do anything now.  How do I purge the memory and the knowledge she and her kind are still there?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re going to need mass therapy.  At least I can get some of it here at the Lake.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, it hasn’t changed the media talking points, if NPR is any judge:  Democrats have a wafer-thin majority, they’re the ones responsible now, the high independent voter turnout means that John McCain is the leading ‘08 contender, John Kerry’s “gaffe” means it’s Hillary as the Dem ‘08 candidate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-377086"><em>Rayne @<br />
                60              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>‘Morning, gang.  Under the gun with a deadline today, won’t be able to hang out.</p>
<p>Still trying to come to terms with the massive shift this week, a sea change in every sense.  Feel like a too-long battered child, waiting for the next blow, in spite of conscious awareness that there won’t be one.</p>
<p>Going to take a while to heal the unconscious after 6-plus years of damage.  Like the image of that screaming harpy who got in my face and spat at me that I was a baby-killer back in 2004, after a Bush rally…that harpy is still out there, even if I know she’s powerless to do anything now.  How do I purge the memory and the knowledge she and her kind are still there?</p>
<p>We’re going to need mass therapy.  At least I can get some of it here at the Lake.</p>
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<p>Well, it hasn’t changed the media talking points, if NPR is any judge:  Democrats have a wafer-thin majority, they’re the ones responsible now, the high independent voter turnout means that John McCain is the leading ‘08 contender, John Kerry’s “gaffe” means it’s Hillary as the Dem ‘08 candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: tuneforg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think I have a solution to Rahm Emanuel the guy relies on Mayor Daley’s troops to get elected so unless Fitz takes out Daley he’s untouchable right? Unless we find someone who doesn’t like Daley and has his own election troops, enter Alderman Mell of Chicago father in Law of Rod Blagoevich the Governor of Illinios. His other daughter Deborah is a lesbian activist who was once arrested for misdeameanor battery on a plainclothes Cop! at a same sex marrige rally. She keeps trying to lobby her brother in law to support same sex marriage which isn’t working. So maybe we can convince her she could do more as a congresswoman! Deborah lives last I heard in the 44th ward which is split between Rahm Emanuel’s district and someone else’s. Lets see Rahm make light of the net roots when we target him! Plus brother inlaw Rod might want our friendship he is rumored to want the presidency himself. The only problem is that Illinois politics are so corrupt that ald mell, rod, rahm are all probably being investigated for something Deborah Mell though is likly  clean as she is out of politics. Still getting Rahm would send the center Dems a message about how we roll the Chicago Way. (Sean Connery in the Untouchables rules!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have a solution to Rahm Emanuel the guy relies on Mayor Daley’s troops to get elected so unless Fitz takes out Daley he’s untouchable right? Unless we find someone who doesn’t like Daley and has his own election troops, enter Alderman Mell of Chicago father in Law of Rod Blagoevich the Governor of Illinios. His other daughter Deborah is a lesbian activist who was once arrested for misdeameanor battery on a plainclothes Cop! at a same sex marrige rally. She keeps trying to lobby her brother in law to support same sex marriage which isn’t working. So maybe we can convince her she could do more as a congresswoman! Deborah lives last I heard in the 44th ward which is split between Rahm Emanuel’s district and someone else’s. Lets see Rahm make light of the net roots when we target him! Plus brother inlaw Rod might want our friendship he is rumored to want the presidency himself. The only problem is that Illinois politics are so corrupt that ald mell, rod, rahm are all probably being investigated for something Deborah Mell though is likly  clean as she is out of politics. Still getting Rahm would send the center Dems a message about how we roll the Chicago Way. (Sean Connery in the Untouchables rules!)</p>
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