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But you have to give Rahm Emanuel, the House Democratic campaign chief, credit for recruiting an impressive group of candidates, including a few non-liberals like Brad Ellsworth in Indiana and Heath Shuler in North Carolina. The media, however, is exaggerating the number of these unconventional Democrats. They are a handful, and the pattern of moderate and conservative Democrats when they get to Washington is to pipe down.
I know it is serving the purposes of Robert Novak, Rush Limbaugh and Rahm Emanuel to paint this as a victory for conservatives who don't exist, but I can only hope that as time goes on the wingnuts who place all their hopes in Rahm's illusory candidates have their little parades rained on.
It might take a while for journalists who like to have their stories pre-chewed by crack teams of DC establishment PR flacks to catch on, but this "triumph of the centrists" meme is a Rahm Emanuel spittle-soaked fantasy. The country ran from conservatives like a bad case of crotch lice and no amount of PR spin can re-write that.
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close to the top. the spinners will spin in their little concentric circles but the kool aid is a new colour.
Lou Dobbs just called for Allen to do the gracious thing and concede.
Crotch lice! HA!! Probably a few on some eyebrows…
Remember what Digby said: conservatism is perpetually blameless; it can only be failed by liberalism. Or something like that.
Perfect photo of Freddy the Beetle Barnes. Just perfect.
And gang — I just got off the phone with Speaker-elect Pelosi. She said to tell everyone thank you so much for everything.
Just wanted to pass that along before I have to pack up my computer again and hop on my next flight. I’ll try to have more on the call tomorrow when I’ve gotten more than three hours sleep…but I wanted to let you guys know about the thank you today. :)
This is actually counter spin.
They’re worried they’ve gone overboard with the “moderate dems-just-like-republicans” spin.
If that spin is true, how do they paint dems as dangerous liberals?
Hence, Fred pulls back on the reins: Sure there are some moderate dems, but they’re an anomaly. The rest are CRAZY SAN FRANCISCO LIBERALS!
Rahm Emanuel is a Tony Coehlo wannabe — and may he follow the same career path, and get out of DC one step ahead of the DoJ.
Jane is rocking the house and the keyboard.
What a gifted writer you are!
Christy Hardin Smith @
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you take calls from Nancy? :~)
And yes, before anyone asks, I’m stuck in the airport in Cleveland having political conference calls on three hours sleep and coffee fumes. I am such a geek.
punaise at 10 — as though I would hang up on the speaker-to-be? *g* Yeah, I thought not.
Repugs are not backing Allen
via hotline
lazlo pink @
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that’s KoolAid swirling down the drain
Christy Hardin Smith @ 12
Were you on Speaker Phone?
That’s true, but if they go off on some total left-wing too, those moderates who joined us will abandon us in two years.
I keep saying, to use a football analogy, last night, we won the conference champiopnship game. The Super Bowl is two years from now. If we alienate the middle of the spectrum, they’ll run back to the repukes so fast it’ll make our heads spin like Linda Blair’s.
One thing at a time. Be friendly. Deal with our own weaknesses (Barbara Boxer, Hillary CLinton, Rahm Emanuel, DiFi, Lieberpuke and many others) and kick ass in ‘08.
THere are a LOT of people who need to be purged from the party in the next two years. We need to be Mao-like in our purging. No prisoners. You didn’t support Ned, you’re gone. Start with Boxer. How I hate her.
The appointment of Gates presages the ascendency of James Baker, wot?
You know, I’m really getting weary of this blue dem denial thing. How come they don’t get that we are heading in a progressive direction that is anything but centrist. And the society is heading that way for the long term.
Christy — Speaker to be Pelosi had a terrific interview with Blitzer. She was articulate, responsible, confident, modest — and extraordinarily gracious. Wolf couldn’t be polite and deferential enough. My, my.
That interview was worth a lot to the new Democratic majority.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 12
sorry - couldn’t resist…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 11
Hee hee! Geeks rule!
In Germany, Der Speigel reported that Rahm Emanuel was the hidden architect of the victory. Here’s the letter I wrote them:
Editors — Your article on the reasons Americans were ready to shift some power back to the Democrats hit the main points. But you seriously erred by calling Rahm Emanuel “the secret architect of the Democrat victory.” The DNCC spin is that their strategy worked, hence the “victory.” But many of their top candidates lost, and many of the winners were grass roots candidates who wouldn’t “kow-tow” to the Emanuel-Clinton centrists line.
The grass roots internet campaign begun by Move On, and furthered by several sites like Blue America and firedoglake and more, which raised many millions of dollars and put many committed feet on the ground, was the real difference. Enough of a difference to turn the tide. Winners like Jerry McNerney in CA 05, beating a Congressman labeled one of the 13 most corrupt in Washington, Richard Pombo, were accomplished by the grass roots.
It was only in the last three weeks of the campaign that Emmanuel’s DCCC came to the table, putting McNerney over the top. Previously, they funded lavishly their own candidate in the primary, which ended in Emanuel wasting precious dollars while the campaign gained no traction. They spent $3M on Tammy Duckworth, with no result.
Enough of the winners on Tuesday were only supported by the grass roots groups, and several lost by only hundreds or thousands, very close. End effect: Rahm’s campaign was not without success, but the overall victory came only with the incredible energization of the grass roots (netroots).
And for German readers, McNerney is the 1st lifelong windpower engineer to become a Congressman.
My first reaction on seeing the title of this article was “that’s going to be a short article”. Sure enough. Nevertheless, The Beetle managed to get it right. Rahm deserves limited credit, but a lot of other folks deserve at least as much, including Howard Dean, Kos, FDL, Howie Klein, etc.
Patrick at 15 — ba dum bum…no, but a wingnutty looking geezer reading the latest O’Reilly “book” sitting near me did a double take when I said “First, let me say congratulations, Madame Speaker…” and then went on with my point. *g* That was, admittedly, fun.
Speaker to be Pelosi had a conference call with a few bloggers able to attend. I was a participant.
It has for some time passed my understanding that her dkos approval numbers are as weak as they are, especially when Reid’s are as good as they are.
Ried has been living off that reputation as a fighter from that one time he sandbagged Frist, but he’s been AWOL and craven ever since. He does not respect you, the grassroots. Nancy Pelosi does, and she’s a progressive.
Please spread the good word on our Speaker to be. She won’t be perfect with us on everything all the time, but she handles that caucus well. She has a lot of egos to herd. She’s with us on our values.
Christy, that is so cool!
Prior thread, some great comments from scarecrow and others about her interview with Wolfie. I hope a YouTube of it is available. The best part was when she educated Wolfie (so politely, but firmly) about how the members of the Intelligence Committees are selected, not by seniority. Wolfie had no idea.
Of the three most powerful leaders of our nation, she is the only one qualified to lead.
hehe. GG Parker is going up with the provisional ballot recount in VA…
J H Webb Jr Democratic 1,173,755 49.55%
G F Allen Republican 1,166,408 49.24%
G G Parker Independent Green 26,226 1.11%
Write Ins 2,364 0.10%
Can we please have some payback on the greens this time? Pretty please?
LMAO.
punaise @ 14
seems like such a mean thing to do to an inocent drain. on a more serious note, this canadian would like to thank and congratulate jane, christy, trex, pach, siun and all of the fire breathing firepups for rewriting the political script of the 21st century. you cats are like rockstars. you’d be surprised how many canucks were grinning and excited to have our southern neighbours make a sudden dash back toward sanity.
Madame Speaker.
Be still my heart.
A lady! Our female ancestors are so proud tonight.
(the males are smiling, too I’ll bet!)
Congrats on the call, Christy. This does mean that Pelosi gets it, doesn’t it? Now, get home and crash. We need you in good shape for the Pull up a Chair session, wherin we discuss the relative merits of lame duck recipes.
The GOP has suffered and devastating loss. This denial stage of dealing with their grief is amusing, but the anger phase may not be. Next week things might get ugly.
This isn’t new, but it’s more emphatic after she reached out to bloggers today, I’m down with Speaker Pelosi for the LONG haul.
angie @ 30
I’m 45 years old and have had almost exclusively female bosses. ‘Bout time politics caught up to the real world.
Okay gang, have another quick call and then I’m on my next flight. You guys play nice until I see you in the morning. And thanks mucho from me as well. We truly have the best damned community in the blogoverse.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 24
PA voice booming though the Cleveland airport: “paging Christy Hardin Smith to the white courtesy telephone, please. Speaker-to-be Pelosi on line 1.”
Is Allen waiting for 7000 unexisting votes to fall in his pile? Those days are over.
Yeah, it’s a refusal to accept reality and an attempt to deny that the country really wants change, because the Democrats are conservatives “just like them”.
They can’t face this truth: people no longer want them to govern.
BTW - I think something STINKS in Virginia. Allen and the republicans are up to something. Who’s watching them as they uncover these “uncounted votes” for Allen?
Randy Tinkerman @ 2:56 pm (#22)
Good letter.
I hope McNerney is part of a trend. Not only is he the first windpower engineer in Congress, he’s also one of the few engineers in Congress of any sort. There are precious few scientists, as well. Considering how much loose thinking, distortion, and lying we’ve had to endure from the lawyers and business people who predominate there, I think this is something that needs to be corrected.
Nancy Pelosi has been doing these calls on a semi-regular basis for a while. This isn’t something new. That she took time to do one today, however, with all of the media rush and work on her plate was both gracious and telling on how she truly does understand and value the contribution that all of you made in this election. And I wanted to be certain that you all knew about it this evening — because you guys earned it and then some.
ccmask @ 37
But Diebold promised! It’s not fair! ;)
Jane — I thought the problem is the rest of the media is ignoring the progressives and not exaggerating them, as Barnes implies. So what is Barnes talking about?
I may have missed a thread from Howie in the last 24 hours, but if this has not been done, it would be helpful to have a list/summary of Blue America wins and near wins, highlighting how Howie et al rescued progressive Dems, especially those that the Rahmists ignored or joined only at the last minute. Is something like this in the works from Howie or others?
Mods - I screwed something up at 39, and I previewed and everything. Just delete it please as it makes no sense. sorry.
sofistic @ 18
It’s not that they’re in denial; I think they do see it. But it’s to their advantage to pretend that it doesn’t exist and that they’re the ones that really won this historic victory.
In other words, they’re trying to use the Big Lie technique.
I haven’t be on all day today. I’ve been reading blueprints since noon…Anyway, if I was a Gop and I just lost an elction and George Clearing Bush fired Rummy today, I’d be pissed off big time. I mean, had he done this two or three weeks ago, it might have saved some seats, no? That whole “stay the course” is what threw it for one. I’m sure this has already been discussed but I’ve been thinking of it all day.
I had no idea.
ccmask @ 46
Great comment.
Patrick 4/4 at 2:17 from last thread:
“Somebody tell me that Agnew is dead.”
It should be clear that that would be no obstacle.
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 16
Uhhh… I was disappointed that Boxer supported Lieberman, but she’s a pretty reliable progressive. Let’s be a little more judicious in our purging, ok? Rahm first! :D
How is it that Rahm occupies whatever position it is that gives his pronouncements any weight.
It seems to me that he is now the principal impediment to meaningful change in Washington.
He and Mehlman are a real pair…
ccmask @ 46
y’know, i was thinking this as well. they were never going to lose any of their base by giving rumsfeld the boot…they only stood to gain in independent voters.
not that i’m sad it didn’t happen…
First you take the country back. Then you take the party back.
Which is tougher? The party. The party has no constitutional prohibitions against the kind of leadership we see in Rahm, Chuck, Hilary, etc.
Is it Chris Bowers who’s trying to get the party back from the clutches of the Philadelphia machine? How do we support that kind of real grass roots effort so that Rahm has no one to stand on?
Christy Hardin Smith @
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Sorry I haven’t had time to participate much!
BUT, omigod, this is such a great story Christy! REally has me smiling.
I knew J.Casper because Christy has mentioned it several times before. Wasn’t Pelosi at YearlyKos?
new note a Va. SOS site.
Completely agree.
Guitar PB, who in the Senate is more liberal (intelligent and coherant) than Barbara Boxer?
Tactically, the first 100 hours agenda of our new Dem Congress is smart. It’s low-hanging fruit that most everyone agrees with. It’s the next steps that we need to take with caution.
My heart tells me that we must not delay in undoing the travesties of the last 6 years. However, my head tells me that weakening the whole body of conservative media is a necessary first step before we can advance significantly. Remember, we won despite the CNNs and APs of the world, not because of them. While we must continue to attack, we must choose our battles carefully, or else we will lose our momentum.
We must also beware of the poisoned chalices of Iraq and the economy. Once the Dems have a chance to influence Iraq policy, the MSM will blame the Dems for whatever bad happens thereafter — even though Bush/Cheney have driven us over a cliff long ago. Likewise, I can just hear the hoots and catcalls: “Of course we’re in a recession, ever since the Dems voted to reinstate the estate tax.”
Today is a day of rest and satisfaction. But tomorrow be ready to gird yourself to continue the battle anew.
Sorry Jane, but if you think Bush was conservative I guess I had been giving you too much credit. There is a reason why conservatives turned their back on him.
Also, Va. SOS says 100% is in and
J H Webb Jr Democratic 1,173,755 49.55%
G F Allen Republican 1,166,408 49.24%
G G Parker Independent Green 26,226 1.11%
John Casper @ 48
There were a couple of panelists tonight on CNN (or MSNBC?) who agree with you.
Don’t hold back Jane. Tell us how you really feel.
Sooner or later the truth will show.
In the first place, we can thank Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi for our big victory, not Rahm Emanuel.
If Howard hadn’t engineered the 50 States strategy we wouldn’t have been poised to take advantage of the Mark Foley situation, or to take three new seats in Indiana. Nor would we have had the organization on the ground in Montana or Missouri to take those Senate seats.
Nancy Pelosi raised money & worked hard to prove to the country that she is just the right person to show America how a REAL Speaker should behave. She has the talent & stamina to work with a President who “doesn’t get it” because she does.
Watching Rahm Emanuel take credit for a win that should be credited to Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi makes me sick.
Also–this Pelosi call–was to Redd. It was to Redd because she and Jane and the other fabulous folks have figured out a way to make democracy work using internet tubes.
Hard to believe that internet tubes can raise money, network information, organize volunteers, provide emotional support, take down politicians who lie, and carry so much truth.
All in those tiny tubes that we can’t see when we have wireless.
Unsurprisingly, Tucker and Scarborough are barking about how Junja’s Rumsfeld announcement “stole the news cycle” from Nancy Pelosi. Scarborough still calls her “Nancy” as if he has something distasteful in his mouth. Time for a little respect, Joe-Boy!
Sounds like the Fred Barnes Fax machine may be down.
btw, where’s Boy Genius Architect TurdBlossom? Any sightings?
uncle toby @ 58
Bullseye
this whole thing makes me think of rove saying “i’m the one with THE numbers” (or something like that). on npr the other day. now i just have to laugh about it, thankfully.
he really bought into his own legend a bit too much.
btw, someone needs to make sure the la times got the memo — NOTE TO LA TIMES: go back and read your ‘rove is god’ story from a few days ago and tell us how it DOESN’T make you look like 13 year olds shrieking about the new copy of teenbeat with rove on the cover.
RagingGurrl @ 38
Relax, really. This ain’t 2004 Ohio, we have Democrats in charge of the state government. We see weird stuff like the “precincts reporting” going down because they’re in the process of adding in the provisional ballots. It looks weird because the process of statewide tabulation is strange and arcane, and until the last few years, we didn’t get to watch every detail live on the web, but that doesn’t mean there’s anything funny going on.
Yes, there are Republicans involved with the counting in many, probably most localities. But nothing is being done without a Democrat there to watch them, really. None of this is going to change the outcome.
They knew they were going to lose, because talk has to be about 51% on Rummy.
One guy out of 45 that lost his job last night - and all who should have lost there jobs 2 - 4 years ago.
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Rahm & company can try to take credit for what happened yesterday - but too many people know what really happened.
Speaker Pelosi will have quite a balancing act on her hands, and it’s likely we’ll have occasion to criticise her for this or that tactical move. Still: it’s encouraging to know that she’ll be getting unfiltered progressive input to weigh into those strategic ponderings. As long as her voice remains strong I’ll be among those willing to cut her some slack as she finds her way.
I’m not surprised. I couldn’t concentrate today and it was killing me not to run from the planning room and up to my office and lock myself in and get to the lake. I mean my mind was wandering all over the place and I kept thinking Macaca was conceding and I was missing it.
Redshift @ 44
Sigh, I guess you are right. But enough of that already.
Christy Hardin Smith @
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If you get a chance to talk to her again you might want to tell her that all the drivel we’re hearing about bi-partisanship and how Rumsfeld’s firing is some symbol of a “new direction” on Iraq is just so much B.S.
1. Rumsfeld’s firing was obviously decided upon some time ago, as is proven by fact that they immediately named his successor. Obviously Gates had to be vetted and asked if he wanted the job, etc. That wasn’t a morning’s work. Basically, Andrew Card must have convinced the President in the aftermath of the general’s revolt against Rummy’s leadership — made openly public in the pages of Army Times, signaled that Rumsfeld had finally and totally lost the support of the serving military leaders. Failure to heed them would only create a deepening and ever more open resistance.
So, this wasn’t some wake up call by Bush as a result of the election. They just waited until after the election to announce it so as not to demoralize the base who were all fired up and accusing Democrats of “cut and run.”
2. Bush’s new strategy will be to get Democrats to act as human shields for his failed war. If Democrats fall all over themselves in a fit of guilibility for actually being listened to for a change and take “bi-partisan” responsibility for Iraq Bush & co will simply turn on them like rabid dogs and blame them for the inevitable failure to come. It will all be the fault of the Democrats. (Think of Hitler’s blaming the Social Democrats — who took over AFTER the war, for Germany’s defeat in WWI and calling them the “November criminals who stabbed Germany in the back!”)
3. Always remember that there is NO “compromise on Iraq” that is going to give us victory or even a decent exit strategy. Democrats CANNOT drink that cool-aid. This is Bush’s war and he must be made to swallow responsibility for it.
For god’s sake don’t let him lure you into acting as his front man for “stay the course” under some new name and with new faces.
There is only ONE test of a viable policy in Iraq. Does it have a timetable for withdrawal of our troops? If not, it’s window dressing. It’s delusional hopes mascarading as policy.
scarecrow @ 61
It was a calculated gamble, I think. Tossing Rummy a few weeks prior would have convinced the wavering faithful that Bush really was interested in changing course in Iraq for the better, but it would have also depressed turnout among the so-called base, who, even now, are blaming Bush for the loss of the House. That faction would have sat on their thumbs on Nov. 7th.
It strikes me this way because it’s in character for Rove to appeal to his hard-core base always and only.
well, now the virginia site says 94.73%
A little local insight on how pervasive the repudiation of conservatism was yesterday.
In the Maine House the Dems had a 1 seat majority going into yesterday. The Dems are not wildly popular in Maine although they have been doing OK lately. Republicans ran on job and tax cuts, which is big in Maine as we are poor and our property taxes are very steep (something absolutely everybody seems to agree on).
The Dems now have a 30 seat majority in the Maine House. The local Republicans are literally saying, “I need to sit down and figure out what happened.”
The country, indeed, has had enough.
I hadn’t realized until this election what a useless tool Rahm Emanuel is. If Dean had listened to the twirp, this election would have comeout much worse.
Earlier today heard a RT Wing pundit saying that Pelosi would have to govern from the left to placate the bloggers “who were responsible for the Dems Victory, such as…. drum roll. “Huffing Post and Daily Chaos”
Wow we rate verbal nasty nick names from the right and a call from the new Speaker of the House.
My heads a flutter, where will all this attention lead.
Right this minute I am worried about the last couple of hundred hours with this congress. They are heading for a lame duck session. Our troops, treasury, net neutrality and the surveillance bill to mention a few of the bottom hits. *ugh*
Just got an email from Larry Kissell. Things are looking less bright for textile magnate Robin Hayes:
Yes. Yes. Yes.
It’s called “taking hostages.” They did it to the Dems on pre-war intelligence: “you (Dems) knew, if you didn’t like it, why didn’t you speak up?
I think the best thing for the Dems to do is to create an excel spreadsheet and figure out ecactly where the country stands. This will enable the talking necks to know at what point we were at when the gov was turned over. When they start to blame Pelosi she can tell them where to look on the spreadsheet.
D. Mason @ 58
We all call BULLSHIT on this!
Rats fleeing a sinking ship are wont to deny they ever were aboard.
Denials of paternity kinda don’t work when the DNA proves otherwise.
Pachacutec @
25
*OUR values* yes! American values!
American values — not “San Francisco values” because there is NO SUCH THING.
This town is way to diverse to be categorized.
Castro St. values are not the same as Folsom St. values or Polk St. values — and all three are typified as gay.
The young white hets who hang at the Zeitgeist on Valencia St. wouldn’t get caught dead crawling any of the (young-white-het) wateringholes of Union St.
Neighborhoods change significantly from block to block, street to street.
There are Mission St. values (Latino commercial), Valencia St. values (boho), and Guerrero St. values (hep young-professional) — and these streets run side-by-side.
No, Pelosi is the champion of OUR values — American values. This land is your land this land is my land values.
Account ability is the value of the day, I’d say.
Organic George @ 78
Now you know how the Dixie Chicks feel.
From Kilroy campaign in Ohio:
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are you glad enough?
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A follow up: Many Republicans have drunk the kool-aid it great heaping gulps over the last few years. Faced with an ass-smacking of historic proportions at all levels of government, nationwide, those delusional Republicans will have to come to terms with a lot of lies.
Expect what amounts to grieving behavior, coupled with betrayal. Except that the betrayal and grief simply cannot be dislocated to liberals. The betrayal is a betrayal of self for Republicans. The grief is over a loss of self: they are not who they thought they were.
K’Lo is a poster child for this.
Well… I voted for Nancy Pelosi many times when I lived in her area. Sometimes, occasionally, I do the right thing.
I think the message from Speaker Pelosi would be something along the lines of, ‘there is still a lot of work to be done’.
Witchywoman @ 49
Uhhh… I was disappointed that Boxer supported Lieberman, but she’s a pretty reliable progressive. Let’s be a little more judicious in our purging, ok? Rahm first! :D
No, I’m sorry, supporting HoJo makes you a PRO WAR person. You can’t have it both ways. Your own actions are what you’re judged upon.
Her support of Lieberman NEGATES all that other stuff. Fuck Barbara Boxer. Purge her first because her hypocrisy is the most egregious.
Wes Clark on air america radio
Mad Dogs at 3:20 pm
I agree.
D. Mason, where is that “true Conservative,” Judge Bork on the Bill of Rights? Where is the true conservative, General Norman Schwarzkopf, when our troops are in harms way, because we are “occupying” a foreign country?
John Casper @ 56
All that is NEGATED by her support of Lieberman. Sorry, I want her out. Now.
Pelosi on PBS, “Plenty of room for agreement before we get into what divides us as a party”.
Jari Askins. Our new Democratic Lt. Governor. The right person for the job!
Bush’s presser today snipped and out of order Part 1
On the election:
Yes, it does.
Yes, obviously Americans voted for Democrats because they just didn’t know any better.
On its ramifications:
And it only took him 6 years to come to this conclusion, but watch out, Democrats,
meaning Bush’s disasters are now yours, if he has anything to do with it, and he does.
The President’s casual admission of lying
He added later, “Win or lose, Bob Gates was going to become the nominee.”
Question…what did HoJo promise so that he would get all the GOP $$$ and votes?
Hasn’t W just shown the American people the great facility with which he LIES? Last Friday’s comments that Rummy and Cheney were in place until the end of his term were clearly LIES. When he said Rummy would stick around, W was clearly LYING. And the American people know that.
I understand that Nancy Pelosi cannot call the President a LIAR (as she quickly corrected Leslie Blitzer today when he misquoted her as doing). But the American people have in front of them now a very bright example of how well their President LIES. I’m not sure there has been quite so shining an example as was handed forth to the American people today. Our President LIES with great ease, and always has done, from denying to Bar that he blew up those frogs until right now.
And if W’s going to start undoing his LIES, working backward, shouldn’t a bus with Cheney’s name on it arrive very soon?
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The Dixie Chicks did not bend. I respect these guys.
Remember when Al Gore didn’t want to concede and the media were calling for his head and telling him to give it up!
Might be a good time to go digging for some of them quotes to use against George Allen…
punaise @ 87
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we’re bad enough
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Witchywoman @ 50
I