
Last night Mike Krempasky of Red State was on CNN saying how liberal blogs wouldn't be taken seriously because of Ned Lamont's loss. We understand that Krempasky didn't quite get the implications of the Democratic landslide that Ned's campaign triggered, but maybe he didn't look at the fruits of their fundraising efforts on behalf of GOP candidates?
Here's the 1-20 'losers' they supported….And just for the record, their sole victory came against Rahm Emanual's $3M+ selfish gambit. Had netroots-backed Christine Cegelis had just $500K of that amount and the nomination, instead of the machine-supported out-of-district-Duckworth, we could have defeated Roskam too.
Not that I'm opposed to backing candidates out of principle, but if Lamont's loss is his criteria for judging whether we should be taken seriously or not, how seriously should we be taking them?
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FITZ!
Ding Dong!
Geez, Mike, try to maintain a modicum of consistency would you?
Olbermann!
OT Brooks was just on the NewsHour saying oh yeah, this Rumsfeld thing has been in the works for a while, showing that the big lie is alive and healthy. It’s as believable as if Iraq’s principal export was oranges, we would have invaded anyway. And with victory comes responsibility. And the vote yesterday was a vote against Republicans, so no mandate. Does say that Dems are moving toward the center but then talks about “centrist” like Schumer and Emanuel. D*mn that guy sets his talking points in a row.
After listening to Redd’s honest take on Lamont’s loss it was disgusting to hear the Red Stater label the lefty bloggers as immature. Jerk.
Also OT
Via Froomkin, Peter Baker and Jim VandeHei write in The Washington Post
WTF, I must have stepped out of the room for a minute because I missed the angry opposition bit. This is btw more of the Democrats are now responsible for Republican errors meme.
What will Krempansky’s corporate consulting clients think!!
My god, the ineptitude.
Bustednuckles @ 2
Rahma lama ding dong must go.
I feel strangely optimistic.
Almost giddy
Jane– you are on fire!
Oklahoma kiddo @
9
I wonder if he actually does realize the importance of Ned’s run and the people who truly did turn the tide of last night’s election. I almost hope the poor man is blissfully ignorant, otherwise I wonder how he feels to know the narrow end of Jane and Christy’s telescope is focusing in on him!??!
Right roots = crabby grass
What are they smoking over there?
moeman @ 6
Is there a transcript? I was sorry I wasn’t able to watch Christy last night and would love to read her assessment.
Olbermann IS liking it.
You’ll continue to see a lot of this sort of thinking in the next few days, and not just from the right. Just pick an example case or two that make your case and ignore all the equally valid ones that don’t. It’s a rhetorical fallacy that’s often called “hasty generalization” or “insufficient sampling”.
Whatever you call it, just picking a couple of examples from a whole bunch and saying that they represent some generalized trend or phenomenon is so obviously wrong that I’m amazed at how many people take such arguments seriously.
Thanks Jane; the Bowers list is just what we needed. The rightwing list is also fascinating. Who are these people?
I notice Mr. Schlesinger is not on the list. Must have been an oversight.
Here is a metric for determining how “seriously” the liberal blogs might be taken: How many calls, and how soon, do you think Howie is going to be fielding from candidates thinking it would be a good idea to get listed with Blue America in the next cycle?
On Lou Dobbs…
See Ed. Se Ed’s head explode!
ZIMMERMAN: I think, Errol, you’re underestimating the Democratic — the new Democratic members of Congress, and also the agenda of the Democratic Congress. Border and port security has been one of the top priorities, putting in place the 9/11 Commission recommendations has been critical. And you’re not going to see a Democratic Congress ignore or be for open borders and open ports.
ROLLINS: If the president tries to push through this with Democrat support, he might as well move in Pelosi’s office, the speaker’s office, because he’s going to have no support from Republicans who feel that he basically led them over the cliff yesterday. And he might as well just pack his bags, because the next two years he’ll have no Republican support on any major issues.
DOBBS: I wonder if many members of the House of Representatives, particularly than I think he led them over the cliff than pushed them toward that cliff on issues like comprehensive immigration reform, where he aligned with 31 Democrats in the Senate to get his legislation through.
ROLLINS: I think there’s a lot of gnashing of the teeth and a lot of second-guessing today of the strategy or lack of strategy in this campaign.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..dt.01.html
The wingnuts had a very bitter night. They’ve been pissing about our posts all day today, particularly irked by our popping the bubble of “this was a victory for conservatism” story from Rahm
EmanuelDelay and his crew.Limbaugh flip-flop on Olbermann
EPU’d from below…
I’ll just add that this was the first election I ever devoted any time/money towards specific candidates and it’s been a thrill to have some positive results. I want to congratulate and thank everyone affiliated with this blog for all you’ve done to get us to the point. The future looks a lot brighter today than it did yesterday.
I don’t know if Mike Allen of Time is a regular on Countdown, but he was a stammering moron today. And if that is his usual schtick, they should dump him.
dab from CT: Christy’s appearance:
The picture is here:
Christy on CNN
I was explaining the election to my kids over dinner tonight. I said “Imagine if [NAME REDACTED] was in your class and did whatever he wanted without ever getting in trouble. In fact, you got in trouble for stuff he did.
Now imagine that you got a new teacher halfway through the year that said “No more [NAME REDACTED], you will not behave that way anymore.” How would you feel?
They got it. Progressives in training!
Melanoma Moregun hisses “nutroots” when referring to left blogs. The netroots really torment her! :)
Radio Wingnuttia was fascinating today, in the way that slime mold is fascinating to a mycologist.
Oxyconman says he’s liberated from carrying the GOP’s water;
Savage Weiner calls Shrub “the Jackass-in-Chief”;
other rightwing slime mold variants similarly pile on clusterfuck and the rubberstamp rethugs;
Hannity aka Pompous Douchebag, for one, seems unable to remove lips from the Bush rectum, and will go down with the dingy.
I have this vision of hell. I’m forced into a blind dinner date with Hillary, Rahm and Joe.
Sean tosses Fredo’s salad. A little Thousand Island for that tossed salad Sean?
This is great news we need the right to stay deluded! Self examination might mean they learn from their mistakes, Rahm however can’t have the purse strings anylonger. I think he should talk all he wants about the center, but the man picks losers if this were gambling I would bet the opposite of whatever he choose.
Cujo359
It’s a rhetorical fallacy that’s often called “hasty generalization” or “insufficient sampling”.
I thought it was just lying to be mean.
I’m possibly the EPU winner of all time. I’m just asking… Would it be possible for a new poster to be the one to let the old thread know there’s something new happening upstairs? Or would that absolutely ruin everyone’s FITZ moment? I’m not trying to be snotty, but some of us drop in and out at odd moments during the day and night, and it can be very frustrating to be repeatedly EPUd. Just asking…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 27
… the subject of which is “Which group of rabid lambs has the most venom. Discuss”.
Sorry for the broken link @ 22. Try http://tinyurl.com/y8gtk6 instead.
scarecrow @ 30
I wasn’t discussing motivation, just method.
campaign finance reform
Jinny from the last thread posted a link to a Texas Monthly article about Gates:
http://www.texasmonthly.com/20…..ature.php#
The article is a couple of weeks old, kind of as if maybe someone knew something, Jinny was thinking. Well, check out this intro:
Jinny, if you’re still around, was this the intro to the print version also, or might there have been a last-minute rewrite, say, today?
Marion in Savannah – No offense, but I am, by definition, the “EPU” winner of all time – just sayin.
And, someone usually does post a threads-up that there is a new post. Not me, but others.
Feel free.
Lou Dobbs already called for a dignified concession from George Allen, and RedState.com, the conservative blog, is now calling on Allen not to request a recount.
Dignified? George Allen? But…he was gonna be the next preznit….it just ain’t fair, dammit!
Cujo359 — sorry, you looked away just as I was winking. I understood (and agreed with) what you meant.
Marion in Savannah @ 31
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..t-for-you/
Evil Parallel Universe @ 37
there you go again, wordsmithing :~)
I think all of the progressive blogs such Firedoglake, Hufpo, C & L, et. al. deserve a big thanks for helping the democrats take back both houses. AND espcially for not allowing the right wing nuts get away with their usual games of deception. Thanks.
KO says AP calls it for Webb!
KO
AP has finally called VA for Webb. About time!
AP calls it for Webb.
Olbermann reports AP has said Webb has won, game over
KO says AP says Webb!
Speaker Pelosi!
Speaker Pelosi!!
Speaker Pelosiiiiiiii!!!!!!!
I was thinking about an interview I heard with Charlie Rangel recently, and his saying he would leave his job after, what, 30 years, if the dems didn’t take congress this time around.
He said he couldn’t take it anymore.
Just thinking how happy Charlie was last night!
Yeah – from my understanding, the government gets their election info from the AP, so I guess it’s official for Webb – thanks Keith.
WEBB!!!!
prostratedragon @ 36
howdy all! just home from work – whadda day! someone break out the cervical collars – positively neck-snappin’ was the speed of Dumsfeld being canned… this has got to be the Baker/Cheney split… where’s my popcorn?
why do I get the feeling that shrubya lost a bet? and he had to can Dumsfeld to pay up?
Cozumel at 19:
But . . . Rove is a genius. I know it’s not polite to gloat, but that statement is very gloatable.
Can anyone find the AP story online?
KO, Pelosi, “It all begins to blend togther into a hippie rainbow. Next Kumbaya will be the National Anthem”!
Special pat on the back for egregious! Webb!
On Newshour MADAME SPEAKER mentioned how much she respected the office of the President but that sometimes she questioned his judgment citing Katrina, Iraq, etc. In the background there was an audible noise which I interpreted as yes, but a friend with TIVO said she heard correct. It was perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AP announces it here in a banner:
http://news.yahoo.com/
I can’t keep with all the heavy-posting today so don’t know what the analysis is on Rumsfeld’s departure. I keep thinking “WHY NOW?” I truly believe that if W had shown the capability to change before the election he would have won back some of those who strayed with very real tangible results for the GOP yesterday. All I can think is that Rove truly believed he could still win with his base and that meant keeping Rummy. Now that they realized they can’t win just getting out the vote from their base they went with their back-up plan already in place if they got beat, ala Daddy’s Fixer-Upper, Gates. So how will Shrub, with that massive Daddy chip on his shoulder, handle THAT? It’s gonna get interesting…
egregious @ 48
:triumphant howl:
Breaking: Lieberman declared the whiner in CT
I’m gonna miss Macacallen throwing all them footballs.
HuffPo:
The most important thing we can do is insist on Henry Waxman as chair of the government reform committee. Give that man a stack of subpoenas, and sell your Halliburton stock.
When Clinton got elected, I figured the first item on the agenda would be to investigate the heck out of the Bush 1 and Reagan administrations. They were already one of the most corrupt pair of administrations we ever had, and if we had called out the truth on them, we might have crushed them into dust.
Let’s not let the Democratic Party make that mistake again.
today was the first day in 5 years I wasn’t worried that I would just start screaming uncontrollably at some new outrage that finally drove me over the edge…
WHEW!
1,326 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hamsher and Firepup Patriots:
Instead of gettin’ in a shoe-pissin’ contest with wingnut bloggers, let ‘em cast their spew out there for the gullible and the cerebrally challenged ta soak up. It’s the voices with an audience like the corporate shills that need to be re-educated and corrected when, like Tweety, they credit Schumer for candidates like Tester and Webb.
Let the great unwashed wingnut groupies wallow in misunderstanding and misunderestimation…it’s the progressive leadership and the elected class that need ta know what’s what, and they do.
On to the next battle…it’s already started, for control of the leadership and the strategic agenda. We need ta get Nancy P’s back…there are some pretty nasty folks waitin’ for her in the alley out behind the House Office Building and that includes good ol’ boy Jack Murtha…Christy sent Rahm a clear message today, we jest gotta see that he and the rest of the DLC con men get it.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THE NEXT FIGHT IS GUNNA BE EVEN MORE FUN!!
twolf1 @
21
No. It’s not a flip-flop. Rush has
seen the light. He’s been lied to, been lying to, has no idea what he’s been saying,… Oh, hell. He’sum, been on drugs for years…twolf1 at 40
That was moderately funny.
;)
Jim Baker is a long time Bush family Texas wheeler-dealer. I trust this man even less than Lieberman.
YAHOOOOOO AP announces it here in a banner:
http://news.yahoo.com/
Pelosi is going to play “balls to the wall”.
scarecrow @ 5:29 pm (#39)
OK, well my reply works either way, I think. At some point, I think it would be fun to compare the record of netroots vs. D?CC candidates to see how much money was used by each, how successful they were, etc. I don’t know who could do such a thing. It would probably take a good economist, which I am not.
All I know is that we’ve both had successes and failures, and if one looked into the causes the losses might have been beyond the control of either. I agree that Christine Cegelis probably would have done better with less money than Tammy Duckworth (someone made that point either here or in the previous thread), but that’s more of a feeling than an analysis. When you come right down to it, Duckworth lost and it cost $3 million, and that’s all we know.
Anyway, I’m just trying to point out that we all need to be careful about drawing too many conclusions from too few data points. That’s an obvious point, but we seem to forget it, anyway.
Well, gotta go for now.
Took cnn all of one day to pull out the pending gridlock meme.
Sayonara 06 comin up on KO!
Has anyone commented yet on the contrast between Dems ‘94 and GrOPers ‘06?
Dems ‘94 reacted to their loss by moving to the right (thanks a lot, Bill);
Rethug interpration of the Drubbing of ‘06 is that they lost because they weren’t conservative enough.
As much as we rue Clinton’s selling the Democrats out, it was a successful political strategy for him.
Rather than acknowledging the watershed re-emergence of the progressive movement in America, the clownservatives see it as a signal that they need to retrench and get back to their “core principles.”
They don’t realize that the American people have repudiated conservatism. I agree with tuneforg @30 that we should enncourage this delusion on their part!
Large brain Rove. Right.
Senator Macaca goes down!
On Countdown just now…, “AP reporting Webb wins senate seat in Virginia”
moeman @ 63
Or launching all them spitballs, or sumthin’. :)
A.P. just called VA for Webb
Party’s on, kids!
KO NOW SAYS NBC CALLS WEBB!!!!
NBC declares too.
NBNC News too…
Webb wins!
KO – Allen concession as early as tomorrow eve
Punaise – I never said I didn’t think it was easy. ;-0
Keith quotes an Allen advisor saying he would be disinclined to request a recount if the margin stays at the existing 7,000.
Keith says a concession speech could come as early as tomorrow.
WEBB!!!!!!!
We still have what, 11 House seats undeclared? Any been finalized?
twolf1 @ 85
Did KO also say, “as dumb as he is, it will take him that long to write it.” ???
Progressive is just another word for common sense.
sticky @ 5:42 pm (#81)
Yeah. Now we get to find out what Lieberman’s price is for caucusing with the Democrats. I sure hope ole’ Give ‘Em Hell has stopped by the cash machine on his way to the meeting.
If VA has a recount, it will be a mere formality. This is in the bag for Webb — the vote-spread is too great. Allen should just concede to avoid looking like more of a horse’s ass than he already does.
Evil Parallel Universe @ 86
d’oh!
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid…
Don’t make us sorry that is your title. We have long memories, we raise money and volunteers, and we vote.
who
fucking
cares
what
a
wingnut
thinks
or
says
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.
not me
.
Bowers’ focus on Cegelis was clearly correct. I’m ecstatic Sherrod Brown’s candidacy didn’t succumb in a similar context to Hackett.
Hot Damn, We have just saved the SCOTUS!
Watch Macacwitz start flinging his feces as Webb is declared the winner.
Cujo359 @ 91
If Harry Reid is smart, he’ll give Lieberman just enough to keep him occupied and satisfied, and not an inch more. Lieberman starts threatening him in order to gain more power, Harry should say, “Vegas was built by the mob, and I’ll pay for the contract on you if you so much as think about crossing the aisle.”
Hugh @
5
Actually, Wesley Clark said on Air America’s Rachel Madow show this afternoon that he had heard th were interviewing people for Rumsfeld’s position several weeks ago.
Also, as I posted on the last thread:
Robert Gates
Seems to me to be rather interesting that Texas Monthly’s November issue features Gates on the cover and a lenthly article inside.
Obviously it is not coincidental that Robert Gates’ name come up today as a replacement for Rumsfeld. Do you suppose that prior to the election W was given an either/or order by Daddy Bush and James Baker?
http://www.texasmonthly.com/2006-11-01/f eature.php
Thank you, Jane…
I keep jumping in on threads after last call, but I just wanted to thank you and Christy and all the FDLers for your tireless work, courage and tenacity… all served up with generous doses of humor and Robin Trower references…
You should be proud… I certainly am…
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
good entitlement programs
NBC declares Webb victor.
Did I hear that right, I thought he said NBC.
The ‘people’ have very long memories. And they forgive reluctantly.
yup
egregious @ 104
Jim Webb declared BY NBC in Virginia. He said it again.
WEBB!!! WEBB!!! WEBB!!!
montag @ 99
I Like It.
punaise @ 93
It’s not that I never said I didn’t think it wasn’t easy.
Webb thank yous – dana and angie and too long a list.
from the Dept. of Boo-Frickin’-Hoo:
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love how this broke in prime time, making sure to break the hearts of the maximum number of conservatives all at once!
Both houses of Congress belong to us. The work begins.
egregious @ 111
Yes I will quote this Comment!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All your houses are belong to us!
“quite minute” Murdoch about our losses in Iraq.
HEY BLUEAMERICA… Have I told you lately that I love you?
:)
Now if losing all that hard-earned dosh wasted supporting Repuglican losers wasn’t bad enough for them…
How do you think Madame President Pelosi will sound ringing in their ears?
Keith names Murdoch worst person in the world.
It’s not that I never said I didn’t think it wasn’t easy.
I know that you know that I know thay you know that.
AP quotes a source inside the Allen campaign as saying that his Macacaness is planning to concede tomorrow night.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..TE=DEFAULT
“An adviser to Allen, speaking on condition of anonymity because his boss had not formally decided to end the campaign, said the senator wanted to wait until most of canvassing was completed before announcing his decision, possibly as early as Thursday evening.
The adviser said that Allen was disinclined to request a recount if the final vote spread was similar to that of election night.”
punaise @ 110
Looking for an explanation? Wake up and smell the coffee, guys. Most Americans hate your radicalism. You’ve been listening to yourselves for way, way too long.
RevDeb — uh, remind me which seminary you attended? Sicily?
NOW I do my happy dance!
*does happy dance*
Hey Nate!
Ok we’re gonna be looking at the pool, people who have 6 and something are looking good right now.
I’m at 6 and 28. Feeling confident.
BOOYAH!!!!!
punaise @ 110
Jees, I don’t know, you better ask Rahm…
For sale on ebay: GeorgeLovesNancy.com
$64,000.00
From the auction:
There are many promotional opportunities for this website. It could be potentially profitable based on high traffic.
The starting bid is $64,000 because “the $64,000 Question” is what will happen between George and Nancy in the next 2 years…before America elects a new President.
http://cgi.ebay.com/George-Lov…..dZViewItem
twolf1 @ 115
Fuckin’ A!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can we get Amato to post the moving Snoopy dance again?
KO “Man on dog Santorum got neutered”!
Jane, I don’t know if you watched Pelosi on the Lehrer report tonight, but if you didn’t you should look at the evil eye she shot at Margaret Warner at the end of her interview. It glints, and is unmistakable. Ms Warner did a decent job of questioning, nothing out of bounds, but she raised some campaign rhetoric that Speaker-in-waiting Pelosi has uttered vis a vis the competence of the shrub. Pelosi handled it beautifully. But what was even more beautiful was the look: don’t mess with me bitch. Remember whom you are now talking to. The Third Most Powerful Person in the United States. Take a look. You’re sure to see it, too.
Mary4 — remember a few months ago I promised one day you’d see some accountability on the judiciary side? And you had this list of everything that needed to be investigated?
Well, I think you can get out that wish list. :)
New Drapes & Curtains!!
Jane — we need a happy dance thread!!
egregious @ 125
In spite of the fact that I’m an eternal optimist, my light wasn’t shining as bright as yours e. I had 5-30. Unfortunately for me I didn’t have enough respect for the wisdom of the good folks of Montana.
I’m sorry Montana. I shan’t doubt you again.
raven @ 130
Just because he got his nuts cut off doesn’t mean the dog can’t fuck him….
scarecrow @ 132
Best comment today.
Eureka Springs,AR @ 57
You are too kind, brother briar.
And may I calmly, quietly, say:
WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
A dog can’t wield a paper bag.
Just because he got his nuts cut off doesn’t mean the dog can’t fuck him….
egregious @ 138
I can’t hear you! :~)
scarecrow @ 123
When it comes to Joe’s fate, I take off the collar and let the “forces of nature” take their course, whether they are natural or not.
Karma is a bitch, aint’ it?
Holy Joe has worked hard to earn every bit of scorn and ire that is directed his way. He deserves to be put on a VERY short leash.
AP – Democrats wrested control of the Senate from Republicans Wednesday with an upset victory in Virginia, giving the party complete domination of Capitol Hill for the first time since 1994.
Nate @ 135
Wo. Nate, your light shines so brightly that we need sunglasses just to send you comments.
You’re the one who QUIT HIS JOB and MOVED from one state to another just to support a progressive candidate.
Keep us posted on the special election for Charlie Brown after Doolittle gets ejected.
Evil Parallel Universe @
37
Ooops, sorry… I really surmised you had your name for a reason… and I never would try to step on your toes. Relative newbies should have better manners! I should have said “recent EPU possible winner…”
But for those of us who can only drop in periodically during the day at work it can be sort of a Mobius strip of 2 or 3 folks not knowing that there’s anything exciting happening upstairs… (Well. Maybe I shouldn’t be FDLing at work… Nah…. They really need me sane…)
RevDeb @ 141
And suffer chronic dyspepsia and headaches… there’s one boy who doesn’t deserve to gloat, not in the slightest.
Last night Mike Krempasky of Red State was on CNN saying how liberal blogs wouldn’t be taken seriously because of Ned Lamont’s loss.
We can’t be taken seriously?
Oh, that’s rich.
Look at that list, and be assured that one name on it proves once and for all that these wingnuts must never be near the levers of power. Their candidates are uniformly bad, I grant you, many of them evil and corrupt, but one can have some degree of gravitas despite that. No, I draw your attention to one Van Taylor, surely the stupidest, most ignorant candidate ever to grace a Congressional ballot. He was so stupid that he, a Republican, could not win a seat against a flagging, re-districted almost out of his seat Democrat. In a looney toons district in the middle of Texas’s Bible Belt. Not only that, it was the district claimed as home by the leader of the loony in charge of the fucker’s own party.
Infamous and disgraceful don’t begin to describe Redstate for daring to judge anyone’s seriousness or lack thereof, much less ours.
Time for inquiries and hearings.
punaise @ 140
I said, very discretely, and with the utmost polish and subtlety,
WE WON!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WE WON!!!!!!! OH YEAH!!!!! THE GOOD STUFF!!!! TAKE THAT AND STUFF IT YOU REPUBPUKES!!!!!! WE! ARE! THE! CHAMPIONS! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now can you hear me? :)
montag @
99
if democrats were smart they’d be looking for a republican to flip so they can chase tricky joe losermon into the republican party where he can kiss bush’s ass all day and might long. it just isn’t right for that prick to have any leverage on anything. Consider it unfinished business until losermon is humiliated and powerless.
.
NPR: “Allen not ready to concede….Allen supporters may call for recount.”
No mention of the AP story.
Firepups, along with retaking the Congress and the Democraticc Party,, is anyone up for retaking NPR?
Nate @ 117
The Van version, or Stewart?
Wow, has the landscape changed or what…??
TNR’s editor, Joan Walsh of Salon.com, and Pat Buchanan on Scarborough Country??? A 2-to-1 ratio, left-leaners to conservatives?
Sheesh. I feel like I’ve landed on a different planet!!
Now can you hear me? :)
that starts to work…
To the tune of Carly Simon’s Anticipation:
“Investigations,
Investigations….”
Contest time! Let the creativity flow. What has changed? What do we want? What have we wanted since about 1978? Let’s hear from all you creative types.
kirk murphy @ 150
If the appointments to the CPB require congressional approval, that could happen.
The DLC needs to modify.
egregious @
125
copycat…..
It’s a beautiful day!
VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shUG57MFPTs
My pet theory is that Turdblossom is advising Macaca to end it…. now that they’re pretending to seduce our closet fifth column with nice sweet soothing sounds. A truculent defeated senator in a contended election with natonal scrutiny on him, whose misdeeds have included mistaking people of color monkey, being a uniformed member of the “heritage not hatred set”, denying his Jewish heritage and using a certain six-letter epithet with reference to African-Americans, is toxic waste, even to the rethugs. And they know he’s lost anyway, and he can’t hold the senate for them.. just tar their party a bit blacker than it already is.
Rayne @ 152
Give it a week. The familiar routine will return. The moment Bush gets an earful from someone, they’ll be rushing to his defense. After all, the `08 campaign season has started….
Blub @ 121
Lou Dobbs earlier was calling for him to concede for the good of the nation… {busily spinning prayer wheels, getting out rosaries, lighting candles…JUST FLAT OUT PRAYING…}
From Lou’s lips to God’s ears….
Marion – No offense taken, although I do have an exceptionallllllly large ego.
But people usually do post in the comments when a new thread is up; some regularly. Perhaps they could add a link to the latest post in the footer by the “refresh comments” button so everyone would know.
Hey, computer
geekspeople, can you do that? It would be helpful.Jane? Christy?
[Mod note; you can rest assured that idea will not be EPU’d]
Oklahoma kiddo @ 156
The DLC needs to dissolve.
Jane(nyc) @
44
No kidding. We knew Webb had it this a.m. Nice of them to make the call now that they’ve spent a day milking the drama of “ooh who won VA/will Republicans manage to eke any victory at all from the ashes of what used to be their majority?”
egregious @ 129
OOOOHHH…. happy feet!
Reuters has called it. CNN is running a ticker to the effect that they are about to call it as well.
(As I was saying before toobz blew out for a while…)
Webb!
Wanna link?
http://tinyurl.com/t6mh6
(which you probably have by now)
Ed*ard Teller @ 157
Don’t make me look up the time stamp, MR COPYCAT.
Returning to previously scheduled rave.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
CNN says:
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Democrats win control of the Senate from Republicans with a victory in Virginia, AP and Reuters report. CNN working to confirm.
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Oklahoma kiddo @ 142
Oh. How lovely. I just wanted to see this said again… AAHHHHH…..
Heh.
My Senator from Vermont, chairman of the Judiciary.
Poor Orin…the man who looks as if he is having a perpetual proctology examination will keep that pinched look for a while longer.
On another note…anyone heard from Edward Teller? I haven’t heard anything about his candidate in Alaska. what’s the news?
OMG — Scarborough’s playing Limbo’s “not carrying water” liberation schtick.
Heh. He actually thinks his team wasn’t standing up and being the conservatives that they really are, and that’s why they lost. Good one. He must be back on the Oxycontin again.
Well, all day the MSM has been talking about how Rahm/Schumer brilliantly engineered this victory by picking centrist candidates — and they won.
Now on Scarborough, he and the kid from The New Republic are warning us to expect that all of these new extreme liberals we just elected will push the Dem leadership to adopt all the extreme liberal positions, because that’s what the rightwing legislators did in the 1990s. I’m so confused. You just can’t trust those extreme centrist liberals.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!!!!!!
[teenage girl scream]
My goodness. Edward Teller…I just think of you and there you are!
Magic!
Reuters:
Democrats take control of Senate: media
Cozumel @
158
White bird in a golden cage on a winter’s day
Today is the first time in a long time that I’ve felt a real sense of hope for our country. I’d like to thank everyone associated with this blog for your courage, conviction and your ability to motivate and get people involved in taking back our country. You have all been such an inspiration to me! Many, many thanks.
Now maybe we can get our Fitzmas, finally.
JohnSwifty @ 151
I’ve got a deep and raspy voice so I gotta go with Rod. And Jon as well but that’s a different Stewart story.
I am calm. I am calm. I have been calm for TOO LONG! I AM ECSTATIC!!!!!!!
WEBB!!!!!
WE WON THE SENATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Lieberman, you can crawl back under that rock now. We Don’t Need You Anymore.
Bwahahahahahaha
Buchanan looks like his head is about to explode.
I’m lovin’ it.
punaise @ 177
That is one of my alltime favs.
Good Evening, all. The bubbly is flowing- again! WooHoo! It’s near the end of a beautiful day, ain’t it??
RevDeb @ 181
Good. Now what we need is for someone to discover that Buchanan is in the country illegally, and it will….
LJ/Aquaria @ 164
Sore WINNER!
You damn right I am. I’m going to have so much fun at work tonight when I get to say, How ’bout them Democrats?
It’s the most wonderful time of the year.
Well, I guess we take a breather and then we start to make some omlettes.
-GSD
egregious @ 143
Will do… I’ll be sure and link my next video post to you as well. I’ve decided I need to put together a video update and I’m considering a personal video message to Mr. Doolittle as well.
RevDeb @ 155
When NPR went national with All Things Considered in the spring of 1971, I was working as news director at KRAB-FM in Seattle, sister station to KDNA in St. Louis, KTAO in Los Gatos, CA, and the still fantastic KBOO in Portland, OR. We were the so-called “KRAB Nebula.”
NPR KILLED small listener-supported radio networks. Killed them off slowly between 1971 and 1985. And they’ve been very pathetic when it comes to decent coverage of the plight of the Palestinians, dating all the way back to their coverage of the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. They offered NO reporting whatsoever of the Dirty War in Argentina.
Their money programs like “Marketplace” have never been labor-friendly. I could rant on and on, but I’ve been calling NPR “National Propoganda Radio Network” since the First Gulf War.
mind your ziggurats, folks….
If I had donated $100,000,000 to Ned Lamont I would consider this a victory and if I had donated $1 to Ned Lamont I would consider this a victory.
Thank you Ned Lamont and family
and thank all you Ned Lamont supporters.
Oh–and Ciro gets a chance at TX-23. Bonilla (R-Pinche Culero) didn’t get 50%.
So all you Firedogs: There’s one more seat we could take, and it would be sweet indeed. Especially getting even with Tom Delay for stealing Ciro’s seat in the first place through his illegal redistricting.
new thread
Heh. My kid brother called me from Indiana this evening, said those Democrats are going to take over the world.
Had to laugh at that one.
fdl, including Howie of course:
The venture capitalists of the political world.
We are the WINNERS!!!
Rayne @ 152
It’s even more confusing than that, Rayne (btw, thanks for all your hard work and for educating us[me] on party participation). From that group, Joe Scarborough was for a Dem victory to provide accountability (the David Gergen argument); Buchanan was against the Iraq invasion; TNR was for the war, and Joan I know less about, but she at least says the election mandate was to more towards ending the war. You need a program to tell the players these days.
egregious… You’ve got your very own thread now! :D
Nate @ 179
I’ve got a deep and raspy voice so I gotta go with Rod. And Jon as well but that’s a different Stewart story.
Jes, I luv teh entendre e deux!
Oh, it’s a happy day. I’m finally feeling like the cloud is leaving the sun. I have to be honest, I thought we’d be in Iran right now and I still can’t believe we aren’t.
GSD @ 187
You guys totally kicked butt in NH. Especially NH01. I hold YOU personally responsible. Good going.
Nate @ 197
Er, I do?
egregious @ 148
I don’t think they can hear you over in the office of that bike-seat sniffin’ Hugh Hewitt, egregious.
Make it loud enough that Emmie can hear you in his center-square location
;>)
LJ/Aquaria @
146
I don’t know if anyone else got out their little calculator. I did. Add that list up, it comes to $240,149. I’m kinda thinking that we ponied up a buck or two more to our Blue America folks? Or am I wrong???
egregious, this thread’s for you.
Blub @
159
You can pet that theory on the head for me too. In fact, here’s where we need notes, diaries, and archives, because these folks are sure that their nasty leavings will be forgot if they just tiptoe off quietly enough. Disabuse whenever possible!
The icing on today’s cake for me? Mrs CO saw Mike Jones having lunch with a friend on the patio of the restaurant by our house this afternoon.
Mike Jones, “Pastor” Ted Haggard’s pay-by-the-hour paramour and meth procuror. THAT Mike Jones. I guess he lives around here.
scarecrow — thanks for fleshing out the players on Scarborough; funny how our perceptions are different. I thought TNR was a nod to the centrists-left, Walsh a nod to left, and Buchanan a nod to the right. Hadn’t even taken the war into consideration because I don’t think the election was about the war. It was about accountability, including the war, at least to my mind and the feedback I got from voters here.
Disconcerting to hear Buchanan say he agrees with Sherrod Brown on anything. Yeesh, I might be the one whose head pops…
DairyMaid @
171
Oh, DairyMaid, he is really a good guy. Back when I lived in VT he was my congresscritter. Congrats on still having him!
PeteCO @
205
Well, did she send a little something over, a nice kielbassa, perhaps? Who knows what the country owes that brave, chiseled posterior.
And, seriously, he had a plan and he executed it. There’s quite a bit to appreciate about that; the current administration couldn’t do it. Maybe they kicked guckert/gannon out too soon.
chady @
178
Actually, this is bigger and more powerful than Fitzmas… Which is not to say that I don’t want Fitzmas to come, you understand. But when we were all praying for Fitzmas did ANY of us see this day coming now? I don’t think so. And then came Ned… There truly is a special place for him in the pantheon of heroic Dems….
RevDeb @
141
(Lisa flicking her fingers from underneath her chin towards RevDeb) Hey RevDeb…How’s it going?
Speakout @
183
You bet! Bubbles are not my favorite, so I’m doing a flask of warm sake… Whatever floats a happy Dem boat, right? I still can’t quite believe it…
punaise @ 190
Aw… punaise… we were SO good yesterday… Do we STILL have to be good? {sulking}
I hate to point this out, but I’m afraid not everybody on that right wing list actually “lost”, though they are all losers. I’m pretty sure Michelle Bachmann (unfortunately) won–if I remember right, she was opposed by Patty Wetterling in my parents’ district in Minnesota.
egregious @
114
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So OK guys I’ve been pretty much lurking around here for a number of months and my question is this: “Why the Hell do I have to listen to Tom Delay and Paula Zahn on CNN acting like he is an expert on something other than hiding wrongful pay for play contributions or any other of numerous transgressions”
This guy is an indicted person who is going to teach me what? How to break the law. I’m mad that on this historic day for the American people I have to listen to this crap. I wrote the following to CNN re: “Tom Delay”
” Why are you talking to a indicted criminal about current situations. Is he supposed to represent some sort of expertise? In what? Breaking the law?”
Not to be a stickler, but I count 21 names, with 20 listed as losers. You name only Roskam as a winner. That’s incorrect. Michelle Bachmann (sadly) is also a winner, skulking behind bushes and all.
If this is not news, sorry. I couldn’t read all comments and I have always sucked at math.
expat @ 215
All you need to know is that Paula Zahn is a republican.
On another note, if congress doesn’t initiate impeachment proceedings against bush, they’re simply not doing their job.
yes, unfortunatly Bachmann did win in mn. i’m from Wetterling’s district and know her son. she has dedicated her life to child protection advocacy since her eldest son Jacob was abducted several years ago. but that did not stop the gay marriage bannning, global warming denying, pro-war Bachmann labeling Wetterling as an extremist who will raise your taxes and let terrorists go free. i was disgusted by her attack ads. i thought the people in this district could easily see through the b.s. because everyone here knows Wetterling and her story, but i guess i was wrong.
anachronism1,
Sadly, you were wrong. We in district MN-03 were unable to dislodge the perma-rep, JIM RAMSTAD. Michelle, though, is truly egregious. You have my sympathy.
and on another sad note from this district, i believe this district swung the governor’s race for pawlenty. because elk river and sherbourne county voted strongly republican and and i think that and the independent candidate sucking votes from hatch made the difference in that race. this district is an expanse of sprawling suburbs filled with people who probably still won’t get it, when the housing bubble bursts and they lose their equity when the value of their home goes down, that they have sown the seeds of their own destruction. otherwise it was a good day for democrats in minnesota, iowa and wisconsin. but i can’t help being disappointed in the people of this district.
Please people! Let the Red State and conservatives continue to tell themselves it is all a fluke! That way they will continue doing what they are doing… not learning and never taking the time (and pain) of self evaluation that would make them mature, thoughtful people. Please, just nod your heads for the next 2 years and go, “Yup. You are right!” Hehehehehe