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I know that the "centrists" (*cough*) who want to reach around across the aisle and grab that K Street money are going to be all about "let's forgive and forget and move forward" (it's the heart of Joe Lieberman's phony "bipartisan" meme -- "let's not talk about all the ways that I fucked up in the past, it might get in the way of my ability to screw things up in the future"); Bill Clinton has been saying it all along. Unfortunately, the failure to hold the crooks and war criminals accountable in the past leads to stuff like the appointment of Robert M. Gates to fill Donald Rumsfeld's shoes of failure. Per Kos :
Robert M. Gates was the Central Intelligence Agency's deputy director for intelligence (DDI) from 1982 to 1986. He was confirmed as the CIA's deputy director of central intelligence (DDCI) in April of 1986 and became acting director of central intelligence in December of that same year. Owing to his senior status in the CIA, Gates was close to many figures who played significant roles in the Iran/contra affair and was in a position to have known of their activities.
Rumsfeld, Cheney -- these zombies that just will not die and keep cropping up in crooked junta after crooked junta because triangulating "centrists" who peddle non-accountability as "bipartisanship" are succesful in pushing the notion forward that we should all just find common ground, love each other and work together in peace and harmony.
If "common ground" means letting the swindlers and villains off the hook, I just became a law'n'order fanatic.
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Macacawitz is refusing to concede.
…so is Burns
Fitz!
The Libby trial
Jack
Shorter election outcome - America gives Bush the middle finger, dyed blue.
Let’s not forget Elliot Abrams, still doing mischief. I almost expect Ollie North to be named deputy something or other.
How close to 0 did I go?
DonS @
5
Absolutely. The list goes on and on.
And why was Gates arming the Contra? Why, to overthrow Daniel Ortega! History repeating itself, with the exact same people, as Wonkette points out….
Lotsa questions for this Gates fellow, including exactly how Casey got his brain cancer anyway.
Hey all — am stuck in Cleveland again. (Someone remind me to never, ever fly through here again. Ever. Thank goodness for Starbucks, that’s all I’m saying…)
Larry Johnson just sent me a link to a piece that he did on Gates this afternoon. I had my own personal run-in with him when I was in college. I was at a conference at Georgetown when I was a Sophomore or Junior, and he was the keynote speaker for the conference when he was head of the CIA. I asked him about his mysogenistic hiring practices and his failure to promote women within the department — and he blew up at me. (Yes, I’ve always been the sort of gal who thought accountability for public officials was a good thing.) Later, he flat out refused to shake my hand at the cocktail party they had for him and student leaders who were at this conference…he turned his back on me and walked away, much to the embarassment of the conference organizer. I had been polite but firm in asking my question, my usual demeanor that you guys are used to — but he took it so personally he couldn’t even shake the hand of a 19 year old college kid. As I recall, he acted like a major ass. So, needless to say, I’m skeptical…but I can see why he’d be right up George “my way or the highway” Bush’s alley.
No more new Presidents Bush or Clinton forever.
Hi all,
Back on line after a couple of days of hard work.
Anything happen while I was gone?
So I guess the lameduck Senate will be tasked with confirming Mr. Gates? Will the Armed Services Committee get to see all the sealed BoooshOne papers? Will Lawrence Walsh, Larry Johnson, and Robert McGovern be called to testify?
Senator Warner, what’s your agenda look like?
RevDeb @ 11
Brttany Spears filed for divorce. other than that, no, why do you ask?
LOL.
Good to see you again after your hard worjk.
Christy, I got stuck in Cleveland (to and fro) and it is not much fun. I now fly direct, A->B.
Thank you for what you do and I hope that you arrive home safely to warm embraces from Mr. and The Peanut.
TeddySanFran @
8
crashing the Gates
LArry Johnson piece
Harkin comments at Gates CIA confirmation hearings
American Progress article on CIA Team B (under Gates)
Walsh Iran Contra report chapter on Gates
The elusive 3 missing precincts in VA: crossposted at kos as a comment.
SecState says there are 3 precincts that have not reported. I nearly went blind going thru county by county to see who hadn’t reported all areas.
Isle of Wight Co/Raynor (0505)
the rest of the Co went
Allen 57.26%, Webb 41.4%. small #’s
James City County
theoretically has TWO precincts out
Central Absentee 3 and
Roberts B (0502) #’s prob few hundred
But there are TWO IDENTICAL lines for Roberts B, one with results and the other with zeroes.
James City County also reports Central Absentee 1, would it possibly be incomplete? It has 887 Allen and 746 Webb.
check this scarbourgh video out, he says the appointment of rumsfeld made republicans wish clinton was still in office
mond boggling
I’m starting to really like scarbourgh..sorrry bout that
http://movies.crooksandliars.c.....eaving.wmv
Word!
Jane, please don’t conflate the centrism thing with the Rahm Emmanuel/Joe Lieberman branch of the party. If that is where our definitions are going, then I prefer “rational Democrat”. That is, a Democrat who doesn’t rule out anything that works for the common good and makes sense.
Rahm and Joe are power hungry and narcissistic, in that order. That has nothing to do with rational democracy and everything to do with the self.
Okay, that tears it, as if I didn’t already have a million good reasons to oppose Gates, but rude to ReddHedd? Sorry, sir, you are toast.
CHS, you are probably lucky he didn’t shake your hand and pass along some CIA-grown brain cancer in his palm.
Ah yes, the old and haggard comedy of Burns and Allen.
Jokesters from the past.
What part of landlside don’t you to fudgeheads not understand.
-GSD
The Bush family is a crime family. They only promote people they have true dirt on. That’s how they operate, it all pretty much in order to cover for the crimes of the father. George H. Bush has commited insane crimes under the guise of the CIA in the last 40 years. If the public knew the truth of crimes it would be the biggest scandel in American history. He has the dirt on Gates and that’s why Gates getting the job. Gates can’t rat them out.
More good news: we have enough work to keep Patrick Fitzgerald busy for the next 1…5…8…10 years. Go Fitz!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s “High Noon” Mr. President.
two fudgheads.
How come we can’t edit the comments anymore?
-GSD
Shorter republicrooks-
You don’t obey the laws that you have, you obey the laws that you want.
Prairie Sunshine @ 10
Correct.
Christy Hardin Smith @
9
And, think of the people he’ll have tagging along with him–like Donald Gregg. It bothers me that Bush would even consider a spook (although they are showing up in all the nooks and crannies of government these days) for DoD.
This has some real ramifications with regard to Rummy’s plan to end-run accountability using military special operations to gather intelligence and do covert ops (right now, the CIA has traditionally been in charge of that and the law requires a NatSec finding before those ops can officially begin). Gates would be just the guy to show them how to do that without Congress getting into the act.
And, this is yet another way to privatize intelligence. Yellow Fruit should still ring a few bells.
portia.vz @
20
“Centrism” is their brand. Best to leave it to them.
Gate’s was frothing at the mouth, refusing to shake the hand of a 19year old college student who asked him a question about his hiring practices?
If this is how short his fuse is, we might have some fun with him.
Oh yeah, Pus Limbaugh has turned on Bush.
Says he feels “liberated” now that he doesn’t have to defend the indefensible.
Another man with out morals or standards.
Let the mental midgets break out the long knives.
-GSD
In an amazing feat of retrograde election reporting, the percent of precincts reporting in the VA Senate race declined from 99.8% to 94.57% at the official VA website.
Jane, Thank you for kicking these crooks while they are down but nowhere near out. The gates nomination (appointment?) proves, once again, how desperately important investigations and convictions of the neo-family is for the integrity of our democracy. Total exposure of the facts and finally complete accountability with humiliation must take place.
Grandma et. al. say no to Gates.
Hi Jane you rock! Anyway I got EPUed Have you heard anything about the military banning FireDogLake and other liberal, but not republican blogs? I think Nancy Pelosi if you talk to her could straighten the Generals out or make the Generals pay and retirement contigent on their performance on Iraq!
“GOP Zombies Go Home”
O paroxysms of yesses!
Everything w/ this George H. Bush starts and ends with Texas and the CIA. Bay of Pigs was how Bush got his start and I’ll let y’all figure out what that lead to.
Nasty nasty nasty this family.
MayDaze @ 33
saw that and am chewing my nails anew.
wtf?
RevDeb @
11
This morning our nation stood up and said, “Hi. My name is America, and I’ve been sober for one day.”
GSD @ 22
Allen got 1,165,111 votes, Burns got 195,455.
Burns should concede.
RevDeb: “Anything happen?”
Not much. Rahm Immanuel saved democracy; Jane is making sure he gets the proper credit.
Bush said he didn’t anticipate losing; reporters asked him whether he thought that showed he was clueless.
Rumsfeld resigned. Said people had criticized him more than he expected.
Bush lied about the resignation last week, but that’s so pre-election.
The next Secretary of Defense will be someone who tried to arm the contras who tried to overthrow the guy who just took over Nicaragua, so that appointment is just in time.
Bush the father appears to be smarter than Bush the younger, so his guys will try to bail out Junion, again.
The media are doing their usual job of explaining all of this.
The Dems are winning the Senate, but Rove has not conceded.
Somebody here said that they thought VA was all electronic voting WITHOUT a paper trail. Is this true? If so, besides absentee ballots and provisional ballots, precisely how would one go about doing a re-count there? And how ironic would it be if the rethugs’ own love for unaccountable Diebold voting could actually backfire on them in such a hilarious way?
anyone here this civilian’s resignation speech?
he had the nerve to say ” an enemy not well known, not well understood”, and “this is the first war in the 21st century”
news flash rumsfeld, the taliban, in afghanistan was a little before this one, remember that one?
words cannot describe my contempt for what this man did to our military and the armed forces of the United States of America
hey rummy, everybody understood this enemy, every professional told yu “do not proceed”
every war game told him he was out of his friggin mind to even attempt engaging iraq with anything less then 400,00 troops, and this just in last week, every war game was a failure even WITH 400,000 troops
what is wrong with this guy?
even in resignation he’s trying to blame everything but his own miserable ability
this man never ever had support from the armed forces, even from republicans
These are the rendition and torture people coming around again.
The CIA is bad stuff… I am not talking about the geeks who look at sat photos or read pravda. I am talking about the ops and their “agent provocateurs” which are assassinating people and stirring up trouble… as well as the interogations and the renditions. BAD BAD BAD.
We need to rip the veil of secrecy off of the CIA… they are ruining the nation and the world.
Anyone who gets to the head of the CIA is an evil SOB… END OF STORY.
Just FYI,Tucker C just said”you liberal bloggers banging away on your keyboards in your underweare in the basement don’t know whats real”.Are these folks in denial or what?
Does anybody else see the beautiful irony in there not being anything to recount in Virginia? Sure, they can press “retabulate” on all their pretty new voting machines, and be sure the number comes up the same the second time, but there aren’t any pieces of paper to actually recount. If I were Macacawitz, I wouldn’t pay for a recount when there’s actually nothing to recount!
And isn’t his campaign outta money anyway?
Jane were you trolling around little green footballs earlier today? Or maybe it was, TRex…
Oh wait a minute, who *sighs* alot.
It was YOU Redd, wasn’t it?
percy @ 39
Excellent!
Yes, it has been a very long hangover. Long past time to sober up.
GSD @ 32
link please, I HAVE to post that around the WORLD
scarecrow @ 41
nice!
GSD @ 32
Rush is just puttering around, looking for the next totalitarian demagogue to come along. This is more Trotskyism (and you’re going to see a lot of it in the next few days), i.e., “the ideology is correct, the people implementing are incorrect.”
speaking of zombies ms. malkin’s got her panties in a bunch when she reviews the upcoming democratic agenda items. first on her list of offenders — a minimum wage hike (gasp).
Can’t wait for the Gates conf. hearings. Which way will Weaselman vote?
…the calculated intimidation which we see so often of late by the “powers that be” will only keep the loyal opposition quiet for just so long. Because eventually, like it always does, the truth will emerge. And when it does, this house of cards, built of deceit, will fall.
Robt. Byrd
What is so amazing is that they seem to have an endless supply of these corrupt has beens that they can drag out from the closet and prop up as new, fresh faces. Do they think we cannot remember the lies and crimes of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Negroponte and Gates from just a few years ago?
This is tiring and nothing will change. Cheney will still call the shots and the disaster will continue until we can manage to take away Bush’s toys. Come on 2007.
The Game is still about the oil, they’re just putting in a better play-caller. Bob Gates has a long history of politicizing intelligence, which means he’s well-prepared for what the SecDef job will require. He is part of the Frank Wolf-commissioned Iraq Study Group, and the game they’ll play is Regional Containment against Russian and Chinese designs on Mid-East oil.
Chaos in Iraq is not congruent with oil extraction, and the Baker Plan will seek to establish stability as quickly as possible. That means dealing with and buying off the Muslim stakeholders in the region whilst playing them off against each other. It worked in the past century, and it can work again.
All this will be in the Iraq Study Group paper. (”Wait and see” is about all I can offer.) Meantime, check out the Richard Haass article in Foreign Affairs, “The New Mideast.” The Haass article is the signal to the elite that the old game is curtailed, and it outlines the rules to the new one. The new game is still going to be dirty, just sneakier and hopefully more effective.
1,326 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizens Hamsher and Hardin Smith:
First let me say that you two absolutely ROCK and you are first line role models for my 2 collegiate daughters and my 3 little grandaughters.
Now,in the spirit of this post and the “rabid lambs”: NEVER FORGET - WE WILL NEVER FORGET
This “bipartisan” bullshit needs to be shoved firmly up Karl Rove’s ass…nobody is buyin’ it, not even the old wingnut Koolaiders. The Democrats need to get Rahm Emmanuel assigned to his new duties in the House page restroom before he can occupy another news cycle and then get the “first 100 days” agenda worked out and in front of everyone.
Nancy Pelosi is fully capable of keepin the troops in line long enough to get a legislative agenda accomplished and vetoed but the Democrats must seize the initiative. Also, the Gates nomination hearings should be on everyone’s dinnertime TV set as soon as the session starts.
ATTACK-ATTACK-ATTACK KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T LET GO!!!
“Hi. My name is America, and I’ve been sober for one day.”
won; ‘dey outta time.
percy @ 39
Great line!
scarcrow,
Thanks. I knew I could count on you to summarize it all succinctly.
TeddySanFran @ 46
If you push the buttons just right, you can get any result you want. That’s why they want a recount.
As Christy stands up, they stand exposed.
Eureka Springs,AR @ 34
It’s a sign of how deep the Republican bench is that they managed to find a guy who was only almost indicted but was a material witness wrt to those who were indicted (and pardoned by Bush I).
Christy Hardin Smith @
9
Christy! Why’d you have to go and say that? ;)
scarecrow, great recap.
I think that Bush after the election is just trying to say something like: I call on all of us, to forgive, reconcile and shake hands. Or was that someone else?
sanitas at 63 — wondered when someone would catch that…*g*…it’s the lack of sleep and coffee fumes. Honest.
feakdaddy @ 53
20 miunte hearing and a vote. His car is parked in a handicap space andhe needs to move it.
MayDaze @33.
That is not good. That site was at 99. something% last night!
“Remember 11/7″
“Yon Rahm (and Joe) has a lean and hungry look”
And fwiw, have y’all noticed that Emanuel and Schumer share is a certain feral look about them? But especially Rahm.
We will certainly be getting a wonderful case study in sore loserdom by the junkies, whores and pimps.
Here’s the Pill junkie link.
Bush is such a loser that he can’t let bad news about him settle for one stinking day. Karl Rove still leads him around by the flaccid noodle.
It’s OK Rover, I am sure everyone has forgotten about your “The Math” quote.
-GSD
TeddySanFran @
21
You know, that story finished what was already done for me too (everything about these folks evokes Second Death, doesn’t it?). And Christy said why, really—it’s especially rude to me when adults take that attitude with young people.
DMM @ 45
Blame it on the underwear. (That’s so Haggard)
Gates is another example of why government officials must be prosecuted to the full extent of the law instead of being excused with “not enough evidence to prove they were lying.” Those involved in Iran-contra have come back to haunt us time and again in the second Bush era. Let’s just say we’re leaving Iraq shortly because Bush will not nominate a capable Secretary of Defense and the world simply cannot tolerate another Rumsfeld.
“Yon Rahm (and Joe) has a lean and hungry look”
Well, Joe does have the backstabbing part down cold.
Bush:
All that stuff about yous folks bein’ traitors and terrrists……
I didn’t realized I was gonna have to work with ya after the election.
Ooops.
-GSD
The Gates confirmation hearing can be the first test case for the Democratic members of the Senate to express their willingness to hold the executive branch accountable. In the last six years, the DOD has gained considerable power while ducking all attempts at accountability for the use of that power.
The Dems should use the confirmation hearings as the first “accountability moment” of many to come. Here’s a taste of what some nice questions might sound like:
1) As one who has headed the CIA, do you believe that information extracted by use of torture is credible? Put another way, does torture work, or do those who are tortured merely say whatever they think their captors want to hear?
2) As one who was part of the intelligence community of the executive branch during the Iran-Contra episode, you have a certain insight into the balance of powers between the legislative and executive branches. Given that experience, what are your views on the power of the executive to set aside the expressed will of Congress by using the cover of a “signing statement” instead of the constitutionally-vested power of the veto? Can the Executive branch simply ignore laws (or portions thereof) that they don’t like?
3) What are the limits, if any, of the military when it comes to seizing American citizens or anyone else and holding them indefinitely, without trial or even the filing of charges, without showing them the evidence being used to
justify their detention, and without providing them a recourse to challenge the legality of their detention before an impartial court?
There are so many other subjects to explore . . . Other questions, anyone?
Hayduke @ 67
Yeah, I’m wondering where they found all those lost precincts…
RevDeb @
11
Big Hug and Smooch!
Tucker,
I am not the user that used a cheesy Limbaugh bowtie for right wing auto-erotic asphyxiation for the past decade.
Bite me you loser. You are much less charming and astute than the Joey Scabs.
-GSD
Sorry if someone else already posted this, and did it better, but among the Republican zombies who now have to go home are those leaving the State Legislatures.
If you want to see the “blue tsunami,” look at the change in numbers of total state legislative seats (all seats in all state Houses and state Senates added together) and the number of total state legislative chambers (houses controlled by a party added together, whether House or Senate).
These numbers are not perfect. But they are a first cut.
The 2004 figure on the right is from http://www.ncsl.org/ncsldb/ele.....rsel=2006. It is actually the makeup on the eve of this election, not the results from 2004. (A small number of changes may have occurred during those two years, part way through.) And I omitted independents.
The 2006 figure on the left is from the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, which works on gaining seats in state legislatures and keeping track of them. It shows what we know so far. Some races are undecided.
So take the precise numbers with a grain of salt, but the cake sure tastes sweet!
I see a shift of nearly 300 seats in state legislatures out of a total of about 7,200 — enough to shift control of about 10 chambers (out of 98 in 49 states, since Nebraska’s is nonpartisan).
Think of it another way: A shift of fewer than 5% of the seats changed control of 10% of the state legislative chambers.
Little things have big results, like the “buterfly effect.” And this year those butterflies causing storms were blue.
Reverand Al is smoking the pro war dems and the “consultants” on Tucker.
Christy:
Well, hell, it’s better than being Stuck in Lodi again. (if you have ever been there, you know what I mean. Had a burger there many years ago at 5:00 in the morning, with piles of shredded cabbage on it, yuk)
Monitors in place for provisional ballot counting in NC, Kissell:
http://www.fox21.com/Global/st.....8;nav=2KPp
Is the Gates nomination Bush’s first act of bi-partisanship?
Is he evil or tone deaf?
Peterr @ 76
Apart from the loss of life in Iraq, the most egregious problem has been the waste of taxpayer monies in DoD on privatized contracts of dubious provenance and possible cronyism. What are you going to do about accountability with regard to contract and procurement issues at DoD?
from Robert Perry Lost History (Part 2): The Devil & Bob Gates
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/lost2.html
and much much more…
So are we gonna find the weapons now? Or just keep shipping more over there to be lost and then used against our troops?
We need to stop supporting the troops and begin to rescue them!
excuse my typo, Reverend Al @ my 81.
Hugh and scarecrow from a previous thread today:
To Baker, Israel has jumped the fence and is more part of the problem than the solution. So he will deal with Syria, and with Iran, and Olmert will be shaken up or shipped out. And as for the Kurds,
“U.S. building huge military airfield in Kurdish Iraq:”
http://www.informationclearing.....e15344.htm
TeddySanFran @ 12
The lamestduck of Senates is the next big Repug heist-fest on my horizon.
The Repugs will try to pilfer as many “Going Away Presents” for themselves as they can get away with.
Since Junya, Darth and Abu Gonzales et al are still on the hook for 20 to Life, one of those “Going Away Present” attempts will be the “Domestic Wiretapping w/o Warrant and Get Out of Jail Free cards” bill for Junya and his criminal cabal.
Again like the “Torture and Get Out of Jail Free cards” bill most recently passed, Junya desparately needs his Repug Congressional cronys to pass this bill, ’cause as Laura Belle is fond of pointing out to Junya, “Boy, ya ain’t allowed to pardon yerself!”
Hey! What a GREAT day!
We got da House, woohoo!
But anyway - don’t know if this is youtubed - Charlie Brown’s concession speech is here, click on the video. He really is gracious and classy. You should have heard the speech before this one - he brought everybody (staff and family) on the stage and thanked them for all they’ve done - there were tears and smiles and a lot of applause.
I just want to say that in the concession he said he will be back and taking on ConMan Do Little again, and I agree, he’ll be back and we will too. There wasn’t any feeling of sadness that anything was over because we are not going away, it’s just going to take a little longer in the Reddest District in California - and it was only by around 7,000 votes - less than 4% of the total votes. Charlie won in Nevada County where FDLer Donna lives - woohoo
Talked all night with LindaR and the last hour or two with Nate.
More later. Really gotta go to lunch.
Mahalo
MayDaze @ 77
Is it possible that the new count represents the “canvassing” that was to commence today? IF so, then Allen will have to make a decision very soon.
DMM @ 45
Tucker Carlson…? Oh, wait, I think I remember…he’s one of the little people, isn’t he…?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 9
How come this just seems so DIRTY? Is it just me?
Hey RevDeb & Scarecrow,
How was last night?
I wanted to go to Meriden, but after being at one of Danbury’s polling places for 15 hours last yesterday, I just didn’t have the energy. After the vote count I just went to my local headquarters for the election post mortem.
I had a wonderful time working with the Lamont campaign folks - and I hold Ned Lamont in such high esteem. He deserved better than he got from the Dem party.
I think anyone working on the campaign the last four to six weeks knew that he most likely would lose - but the fact that everyone kept going without skipping a beat, doing whatever they could to push him over the finish line, was inspirational.
Anyway, Tim posted this on the Lamont web site.
If there’s anything you’d like to say to Ned Lamont, just email info@nedlamont.com and we’ll make sure he gets to read your messages.
Are we gonna have some lame duck recipes this saturday? Pressed lame duck; plum lame duck, etc.
njr @ 78
Thanks. I needed that.
As happy as I am for the big picture result, my Ned tears finally came when I got home. The country is really missing out on having a great man serve us all. I’d work for Ned again in a heartbeat.
Peterr - Nice start. How about, if no solid (comprehensible) answers are provided, no confimation.
sofistic @ 95
how about cooked goose?
Next thing you know John Poindexter will be popping up.
Bipartisanship is the number one losing strategy right now. My Republican best friend voted for Democrats yesterday because he wants checks and balances and some accountability. Our newest house members are going to be in for a real short ride if they fall prey to the Emmanuel/Tauscher memes.
Christy, next time you go to DC, go are probably better off driving or taking the train! Don’t know where in WV you live, but it can’t be that far to I-70.
DiFi holding forth on tweety and she is wearing dangly hoops and a black sweater and talking ’bout the “emasculation of the american military.”
that is all.
DiFi on Tweety saying that W. had the Gates thing lined up and ready for today. She’s sounding like she’s not having it.
Democrats win by a landslide and the DOW is up Wallstreet likes us!
dead last @ 99
He’s been popping up enough that he ought to star in his own version of “Whack-A-Mole.” I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to sneak him into DoD, though. Undersecretary of Defense for Fucking With Citizens’ Rights….
Plame duck? Hey maybe Bob McNamara or McGeorge Bundy is available for SecDef? What about Melvin Laird? Can we dig up Allen Dulles?
CNN has a winner in PA08, Patrick Murphy, Democrat.
If you are watching the Webb race at the Virginia SecState, the reason there are suddenly a lot of unreported districts is that they are now entering the provisional votes. There are only a couple small districts that haven’t reported anything. Raisingkaine is all over it. snl sorry no linky, I’m just too tired.
grayslady @ 100
Agreed. It’s not like the Dems have to be as arrogant, condescending, and generally loathsome as the GOP have been to get the job done–but there is a job to do, and it isn’t going to get done by forgiving and forgetting. Tough but fair is what we need–not faux bipartisanship.
Where’s “Bombs Away LeMay”?
Twisted Martini @ 106
JohnSwifty @ 93
It’s just you. But we don’t judge.