DC/K Street Elites: As the name implies, these are the people whose constituencies are the big money lobbies in DC. Those lobbies are mostly big corporations, which include GE and Time Warner. Their media machine includes establishment media outlets like the major networks, all the cable news stations, the major newspapers including the Washington Post, the AP and the New York Times, Clear Channel radio, defense contractors like Haliburton, Northrup Grumman and CACI, and the anti-net neutrality telecoms like Verizon and Comcast.
This party has been in control of US politics for pretty much my entire life. It made common cause with Barry Goldwater's right wing movement, and made a strategic shift to accommodate the Theocratic Grassroots movement described below. However, it also does business with "third way" Democrats like the Clintons and their establishment DC allies operating under the label of the Democratic Party. Rahm Emanuel belongs to this machine, as do Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Barack Obama, Heath Shuler and most of the rest of the DC Democrats, especially, but not exclusively, in the Senate. This party brought you Viet Nam and Iraq, because both were good for business and provided lots of room for war profiteering.
This party believes government is the tool of its elite constituents. It seeks an equilibrium nationally with itself in power, and once this is achieved, it promotes "bipartisan" collegiality to sustain the status quo. It equally favors John McCain, one of its members, and Joe Lieberman, another of its members. It includes as well the so-called "Bloomberg Democrats" who favor big business, war and bipartisan comity, indifferent to party affiliation. Its establishment media arm simultaneously favors its outsourced, right wing theocratic vote getting arm while presenting "objective" news under the guise of he-said, she-said "fairness" between establishment Republicans and Democrats.
Grassroots Theocrats: The Goldwater business Republicans did not really gain national control until they made common cause with the Jerry Falwell theocrats and their contemporary power brokers on the right, like James Dobson and crystal meth closet case Ted Haggard. Their constituents are Christian religious fundamentalists, primarily but not exclusively evangelicals, who believe in a religious government opposed to the traditional interpretation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Grassroots Theocrats vehemently oppose pluralism of any kind, and they maintain their own media arm through Christian right wing radio, televangelists and a huge publishing and Christian music industry. These people are authoritarians largely suffused with racial supremacists, as their movement took wing in the wake of and in reaction to the civil rights movement. Geographically, the base of this party is in the old Confederate South, but it has adherents spread throughout the country.
This party has been allied with the DC/K Street Elitists at least since the Reagan Revolution, but really, it was there with the Goldwaterites from the beginning. This is the get out the vote, populist arm of our current governing coalition. The DC/K Street Elitist media machine amplifies the Theocrats' messages through outlets like Fix Fox News, Clear Channel Radio and through friendly, mainstream labeling: establishment media outlets call them "values voters," which is really code for supporters of the theocratic, authoritarian, anti-privacy agenda.
Members of this group believe the purpose of government is to enforce and propel their interpretation of Christian cosmology and conduct, and they are quite sophisticated using the levers and tools afforded to them under the Constitution to subvert the Constitution and redefine its principles on their own terms. Since they are authoritarians, they have no concern for the evisceration of habeas corpus or the establishment of a government right to torture and detain at will. Like the Catholic Church of Torquemada in Spain or the Taliban in Afghanistan, they'd find such power quite useful to their agenda.
This party faces real challenges on Tuesday. For example, Colorado's Republican Marilyn Musgrave is one of the Grassroots Theocrats' standard bearers, and yet she may lose to Grassroots Progressive outsider Angie Paccione. The NRCC (a DC/K Street Elitist Party arm) is dumping money into this district to protect a Grassroots Theocratic ally, and as a result, Musgrave is outspending Paccione ten to one. Paccione, a Blue America candidate, is getting no money from the DC/K Street Elites in the DCCC, but she may end up winning anyway.
Why are the Grassroots Theocrats facing the possibility of massive defeats? The Terry Schiavo overreach is part of it, as is their opposition to stem cell research; the Theocrats' agenda is not popular. Like the DC/K Street Elitist Party, this party has to lie creatively to gather support. But the big reason for the coming electoral rejection of the ruling coalition of DC/K Street Elitists and Grassroots Theocrats can be captured in one word: Iraq.
The Theocratic Grassroots unwaveringly supported their faith-based authoritarian hero George Bush, packaged and jointly marketed by it and the DC/K Street Elitists since 2000 as a kind of contemporary political messiah. 9-11 and the "War on Terror" provided the perfect vehicle for the Theocrats and K Street Elitists to exploit a surprised and shocked nation into action for their ambitious joint agenda: war in Iraq. Theocrats loved the idea of a new crusade against Saracen infidels to go with their domestic war against queers, people of color and feminists, and K Street saw lots of defense, reconstruction and oil money in the offing. But Iraq has been a colossal failure of such proportions that both machines now face the wrath of voters, not in the media arms they control, but among regular people, the majority of the country. This midterm election therefore constitutes a referendum on their performance, and possibly even the legitimacy of their governing alliance.
Grassroots Progressives: This new, emerging power center in American politics is making its bid for ascendancy as an alternative to the ruling coalition of the previously described two parties. It seeks to forge an alliance of secularists, pro-pluralist religionists, information elites on the Internet, working people and anyone not among the super-rich (including poor and middle class urbanites, suburbanites and small farmers). It also seeks to include privacy advocates and members of the creative class, including creators of music, software and films. It has created its own media arm on the Internet, of which this blog is a part, and it also gets its message out virally through independent films like Iraq for Sale. It supports the traditional, pro-pluralist understanding of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and therefore supports things like civil rights and due process. Members of this emerging coalition believe government should be a servant of the needs of innovative businesses and common people neglected or largely disenfranchised by the DC/K Street Elitists and the Theocrats.
This is the political machine to watch in this election. How many of its candidates will supplant candidates who belong to either of the other two major parties described here? Our Blue America page is comprised of candidates from this coalition, candidates largely ignored, opposed or (more recently) courted for possible cooptation by the DC/K Street Elites like Rahm Emanuel of the DCCC and Chuck Schumer of the DSCC.
Ned Lamont is the most visible member of this emerging brand of candidates competing in Tuesday's election, though Lamont's race has been the one to expose the cooptation of the Democratic Party establishment by the DC/K Street Elitists most blatantly. Howard Dean's DNC belongs to this coalition, and Nancy Pelosi, possibly next term's Speaker of the House, is allied with this group.
If the Democrats take control of the House, as appears likely, it will mean the ruling majority of the House will exclude the authoritarians, racists and Grassroots Theocrats of the old Confederacy for the first time since a brief interlude in the mid 1950's. Before that, the Confederate South had not been in the minority of control of Congress since before the New Deal (h/t to Tom Schaller via email). That would represent an historic shift in national power, and would mean a newly ascendant American political power center would obviate the compromises historically necesary to appease Southern theocrats and racists. That's not something you're likely to hear from Wolf on Tuesday night.
The wave of Democratic wins expected this Tuesday would not only represent a populist rejection of the ruling coalition of the first two machines, but would also represent a beginning experiment with positive support for a new Grassroots Progressive American politics. However, Grassroots Progressives will still have to struggle against an existing national Democratic power structure DC/K Street Elitists for control of the Democratic Party.
In fact, the battle between the Grassroots Progressives and the DC/K Street Elitists in the Democratic Party has already begun. The DC/K Street Elitist party does not really want to use the Grassroots Progressives as its get out the vote machinery because it knows the Grassroots Progressives don't really want to keep the gravy train alive for the insiders. Instead, Grassroots Progressives support systemic reforms that promote clean elections, like public campaign financing, which would gut the multibillion dollar American lobbying industry.
Establishment Democrats like the Clintons, Rahm Emanuel and Chuck Schumer don't want to overturn the established order of the DC/K Street Elites, but want rather to wrest control of the K Street cash machine from their Republican counterparts. This is why they opposed grassroots candidates who opposed the Iraq occupation: the Iraq occupation was bought, paid for and approved of by their constituents in the DC/K Street Elitist party, especially by big oil and the defense contracters. Chuck and Rahm want to do business with (read: profit from) the DC/K Street Elitist party, not overturn it.
Since many of the candidates Chuck, Rahm and the Clintons opposed will win Tuesday, they are already using the establishment media machine to claim these victories as their own "Democratic" victories. In other words, they're already preemptively lying (see the video above again for an illustration). The Democratic Party now is really two parties engaged in a pitched political war for control. The two sides will remain in opposition within the Democratic Party not only after Tuesday, but throughout and beyond the Democratic primaries leading up to 2008.
Grassroots Progressives will benefit from many protest votes supporting their candidates this election cycle, but their claim to a popular mandate will not yet be secure unless their wins are huge. The country is willing to experiment with this new political movement, but so far this may just represent a courtship. How much love will there be for Grassroots Progressives? Tuesday's results will tell us much more.
As the country possibly affirms Grassroots Progressives, there may well be an ugly breakup coming between DC/K Street Elitists and the Grassroots Theocrats. Fingerpointing is well underway behind the scenes as both sides anticipate big failures on Tuesday, but the size of the Grassroots Progressive wave will dictate how open and ugly this split may become. In the wake of the election, the future of the Republican Party's alliance of the DC/K Street Elitists and Grassroots Theocrats may be uncertain.
Looking further into the future, can the Republican Party survive massive losses and reestablish its coalition? Will fundamentalist evangelicals continue to support DC/K Street Elitists, or will they seek to propel their own more or less openly theocratic national candidates in 2008, since their agenda has always been to take over the Republican Party and have the DC/K Street Elitists answer to them? Less likely, will the Grassroots Theocrats recede and become disillusioned with politics, as they have during other periods of American history? Will a substantial portion of them disengage from the inherently secular political arena, as many among the Progressive Grassroots hope, leaving the field a bit more open for a new ruling coalition to emerge? I doubt it, but it could happen.
Conclusion: The DC/K Street media machine on cable news, print news and the major networks will frame this election in terms of Democrats and Republicans, but there are really three competing parties in play Tuesday. Everyone expects the DC/K Street Elitists and Grassroots Theocrats to suffer losses, but the real question will be, how many losses? What's more, among the remaining winners, how many will be candidates that can rightly be claimed by the Democratic wing of the DC/K Street Elitists, like Joe Lieberman and Heath Shuler, and how many will be Grassroots Progressives, like Jon Tester and Angie Paccione? How big will the wave in favor of Grassroots Progressives be, and what will this mean for the future of both the Democratic and Republican parties as we currently understand them? These are the real questions in play with this election.
At FDL, we'll be covering Tuesday's results with these questions in mind, even as the establishment media spins the results in favor of its own constituents in the DC/K Street Elitist party.




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Ah. :) Hi, Pach. Now to read the post.
Hi gang. This one was the culmination of months of stewing and conversations.
DC/K Street Elitists, like Joe Lieberman and Heath Shuler,and John Barrow
Pachacutec @ 3
It was worth all the stewing, Pach! BRILLIANT analysis! Congratulations
Excellent post. Very on point.
One frame we can expect to see if the big Act Blue wave comes ashore as we hope is the DLC pointing to the McGovern wave that kicked out old line machines like the Daley-run Illinois delegation in 72. The sky will fall if the roots gain power. We’ll never win the presidency again! Waaah!
Pach – great post and important analysis! thank you for making sense of it all.
raven @ 4
I think Barrow might be the only Democratic member of either House to lose his seat. And good riddance!
Either this is really, really good or it’s really, really bad. But I cannot log in to moveon.org to do my calling tonight. I’ve tried and the system seems to be way backed up. Does anyone know what’s going on?
Thanks.
Yea, except he might move back here!
Howie Klein @ 8
I’m fascinated by the number of random folks I’ve had remind me to vote … a cab driver, a lady in a store and today, when I was getting my hair cut, by my wondrous hairdresser … he’s from Egypt and launched into quite a discussion of the terrorists being in DC not in Iraq and his hopes for this election. Large turnout, anyone?
Good article Pach. Also, I agree.
One word you didn’t use, which I think is important:
populism
moe99 @
9
Sorry I can’t help with the moveon question, but did want to say thanks for the early morning video link.
Howie, I learned a lot of this from you.
Siun @ 11
If there’s a large turnout the GOP will cease to exist as a real force in Congress. All the projections everyone is reading are based on fairly low turn-outs. I just noticed almost all the far right staffers at the Weekly Standard are predicting a rout on Tuesday. The head idiot, Kristol, thinks the Democrats will wind up with 52 Senate seats. And he projected more Republican defeats in the House than I did!!
Oops, forgot to say…Great post, Pach!
Siun @ 10
Siun, I’ve both had and have given the same experience. I remind everyone I talk to about voting in this election.
Pach, that was excellent. I’ve been mulling over this conundrum and wondering what we can do about it. I guess the first step is to vote and take someone with us.
You’re spot on. This election will help lay the foundation for a viable progressive movement. This is just the begining.
Hi, Howie! Have I thanked you lately?
LindyH @ 20
No need to thank me. Let’s all remember to vote on Tuesday and to bring along a reluctant friend.
Pachacutec @
3
Pach -
Thanks for taking your incisive mind to the Gordian knot of the “two-party” meme.
I hope the powerful essay you created over those months of thought brings forth decades of citations.
(my inner nerd thrives)
And crushing electoral success, too.
You got the picture.
The grass roots, or at least the net roots aren’t going to go away… (unless the internet does, but that’s another story..). This is a powerful medium for engaging people, and getting out the truth. I must say, however, that I find it ironic that I, a person of more than “a certain age”, know a lot more about the glories of the internet that a lot of my students. Heck, turns out most of them haven’t discovered You Tube yet! And they surely don’t follow politics much. But, when they do, it will be via the internet. BTW, my students here in this red state are probably among the least politically aware of any in the country, so I do have a skewed perspective. But, it’s gonna be increasingly difficult for the KStreet types to keep their doings under the radar, and that is such a good good thing.
When Nancy Pelosi becomes Speaker of the House she’s going to kick some serious ass as far as ethics reform and the pigs at the trough it looks like.
That skeery librul will have the power to change some minds if she can pull it off and I think she can.
One major complaint among all voters is the bickering and polarization in D.C. She gets that big time it looks like to me. This is gonna be fun to watch ; )
Howie Klein @ 15
From kristol’s lips to the Goddess’ ears.
I think I just defiled the Goddess.
and though it is self-evident:
Howie, you rock!
You got a “digital divide” going on, connectivity can be expensive?
Valley Girl @ 23
raven @
4
I don’t think I’d put Barrow into that equation. He’s too ineffectual a little weasel. However, he’s not Max Burns, which is why I will hold my nose and vote for him on Tuesday. I’m drafting the letter I’m going to send him on Wednesday putting him on notice that we’re all watching him, and suggesting he consider what happened to Lieberman…
Progressives and lefties WILL be relevant from Nov. 8th., on.
Pachacutec @ 3
Excellent! I believe that this is the frame needed when I speak to friends who are “just so sick of politics and politicians” and who describe themselves like Roseanne Barr did the last night on Bill Maher as “being in the middle” and not a Democrat or a Republican. These are usually the people that talk about belonging to a potential mysterious third party, but never actually do anything at all. This is when i start to talk about the net roots and usually recommend Markos’ book. I got over the big tabboo about not talking about politics around 2004. The stakes are too high.
Excellent analysis, Pach – what is Christian cosmology, please? I suppose that further scrutiny might reveal the presence of other disparate factions huddling under the GOP’s big tent.
Pachacutec @
3
I’m mildly surprised to see the FDL discussions will address these points. I thought we’d need to keep them under wraps until the results were in.
I’m pleased we can be trusted to carry the banners in public even before the results are tallied.
Spot on post, Pac. Thanks.
Let’s face it, the blogs that come through these tubes have made THE difference in this election (I hope, I hope). But they’re being threatened by the opponents of net neutrality. We HAVE TO keep the lines of micro-communication open in order for true democracy to prevail over the media oligarchs in the DC/K Street elites.
Pach!! I needed this last night!!! Heh.
But seriously, this was exactly what I was trying to explain to my spouse, with whom I’ve been fighting about my political activism. He thinks I’m being completely unfair not to expose my kids to the opposition (to which I told him to get off his butt and do that himself, I refused to truck in anything Republican). I tried explaining to him that this was not simply a Democratic Party versus Republican Party war…now that somebody else has written it, maybe he’ll read it and understand it. Thanks, Pach, once again.
Sorry, I’ve been around him for too long. I understand you need to do what you think is right but I think people like him are more dangerous that an out front right wingnut.
Marion in Savannah @ 27
Great post Pach. At GOTV today for Sestak, Rendell and Casey, the most exciting part was having Nancy pelosi show up. She was on fire. Gwen Ifill was there, I wonder if she will report on the first 100 hours of the neww democratic congress. The other thing going on today was the complaints about Casey. Thanks Rahm. We could have had a real progressive candidate beat Santorum this year. We are thrilled that Santorum will be gone, but it could have been a full progressive sweep.
I am studying the engagement of corporations in civil discourse. It’s a difficult puzzle.
A really nice job, Pach!!
TOPEKA, Kan. – An abortion doctor plans to ask for an investigation of the state attorney general and Bill O’Reilly over comments by the Fox television host that he got information from Kansas abortion records, the doctor’s attorneys said Saturday
Over on Huff
Good News bush has stoped talking about “his economy ” lately because the market has been down 5 days in a row. Bad News bush is still talking about Dems raising taxes. The nerve of that punk! bush borrows money to pay for this war but does not call it a tax. How does he think the money he has borrowed is going to be paid back… Magic? Here is my solution I think dems should tax only the richest 10% and corporations that profited from the war Halbitron Exxon the Caryle group (sorry about the spelling). Anyway we tell the DC/K-street elites to throw bush overboard or ALL CORPORATIONS and not just the war proffiteers get HIT! This action would help divide the DC/K-street elites at a time when bush has left them weak after the election. And they know that SOMEBODY is going to have to pay for this war. The nonoil/defense businesses have had to struggle with the bush economy for years so they can either continue to be pigeons and can continue to pay for a war that benefits only the oil/defense businesses or they can reap the profit of someone else ie( the oil/defense business ) paying the bill for a change. Now then the middle class it must be said ARE NOT GOING TO PAY! Get the middle class out of having to pay while the rich pay nothing. Plus split the DC/K-street alliance between war proffiteers and everyone else. Yes Divide and Conquer, plus get the middle class!
There is interest in this election all over. I just returned to the land down under from CA (my absentee ballot having been mailed) and the immigrant cab driver who took me home from the airport here was asking about the elections.
Everyone wants Bush gone, or at least some accountability (not everyone here fully grasps what we are doing Tuesday, but they sense it’s big.) Until you leave the US it’s hard to understand the destruction that has happened to the US’s image. We used to be loved and respected, now we are feared or pitied or worse, both.
This post is another excellent justification for the 50 state strategy.
While the Reps have recruited bug-fuck crazy locals from the chamber of commerce, Rotary clubs and local associations of car dealers, the Dems have either put up no one or a DC Democrat in training.
People want the genuine article, and they’ll take genuinely crazy over focus-group phonies every time. Which is why it takes a six-year slow-motion disaster to pry these freaks out of power.
Man oh man! I can’t wait to see the Roots Project. You nailed it!
Patrick 4/4 @ 40
Exhibit A: Tom Delay, former pest control operator.
Howie,
Have you thought of a November 8th Fund as a follow up to Blue America. This would be a fund that begins the funding for the next cycle of house campaigns that our freshmen Democrats will need to build. We are all too familiar with the story that the first thing freshman congresspersons learn is that they need to start raising fund for the next election cycle, before they even start to legislate. Perhaps beginning a grassroots fund of small donations, that add up to real cash could help keep our victors focused on good governance and less on fund raising. That would help to keep them honest and property of the people, not K Street.
At the chester county democratic headquarters, we occaisionally get calls from people asking who the dem challenger is. It kills us to have to say, there is not one. People can’t believe it. It never occurs to people that there won’t be a challenger for every race. But this year is so much better than the last few elections. This year we only have one race without a dem challenger, go Dean!
petedownunder @ 43
I always picture him like Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet, mask on, inhaling his own poisons.
The theocrats want you to remember, jesus is with you always. Clutching tightly at your shoulders, second guessing your every decision, making you wish you could smoke something that would make Him go away, even just for a little while so you could have some goddamn privacy.
man I love this site.
Great post Pach. Very well said, and some points that I have been thinking through as I’ve watched the events of the past 9 months or so.
We’re going to have remain vigilant, and have the backs of the candidates who we’ve supported. Being fully engaged and prepared for the long term is essential so our candidates can rise in seniority and we can a permanent impact of the future of our country. The legacy we leave is in our hands.
Pach, great entry.
I would like to suggest an additional point of view in analyzing the results on Tuesday: look at the Democratic candidates that made it through a primary despite DCCC or DSCC opposition (Ned Lamont comes to mind, but there are many others). Include in your review Dem. candidates whom DCCC or DSCC refused to support, and who thus had to raise their funds from the netroots. (Diane Benson AK; Andrew Duck MD-06).
Then take a look at how these folks do. We cannot win them all, but these races give a good picture of what we CAN do against huge odds.
We know Rahm will try to take credit for all Dem victories, but this will help measure the ones that clearly are not his.
Pectopah — EXCELLENT suggestion!!! We’ve already been discussing fundraising events that must start in January 2007, to have cash in hand January 2008 when we are ready to go the rest of the distance. We faced a huge uphill battle this year because we did not already have the money on hand and had to get it while creating a strategy on the fly.
I think we do this every election from here on forward. Call it First Wednesday or The Day After fund or something like that, but it’s definitely necessary.
I don’t suppose it might be a good idea to give people a little break?
Rayne @ 50
millerfisk @ 44
That’s been happening in Texas too! I read an article about local politics in Dallas awhile back about local candidates party switching there, Reps to Dems!
And a part B to Mauimom’s comment; there were candidates out there that the DCCC and DSCC may have undermined, not just failed to support.
Christine Cegelis, for example; she’d done all the hard work, made huge gains only to get the rug pulled out from under her by DCCC.
Or Paul Hackett.
I am getting very nervous with all the big numbers being pronounced by the bigwig republican knowitalls. It feels like they are setting up an “it wasn’t so bad after all” scenario.
And with so very many races so very tight, it gives the republicans a chance to do their little shtick the day of the elections and mess with the numbers. Trust? I ain’t got any left.
Lamont was our poster boy and win or lose he set the goal post for next time. I hope and pray that if joe does defeat Ned, Ned will stay active, ala Dean. We really, really need him.
millerfisk- thanks for your 2 great comments. Read, and registered! I was thinking about a litany of “places where there might have been a progressive Dem winning, if not for Rahm.” I’m sure the one you mention is not the only one, but I’m tired and my brain is on slo-mo.
And, the great thing about Blue America, and especially the Had Enough song, is that it has given resources and hope to candidates who otherwise would have been ignored. Esp. see this, a DWT post from Howie earlier:
http://downwithtyranny.blogspo…..ce-of.html
part of letter from Voisin campaign:
~~Hi Howie –
I’m Carol Voisin’s campaign manager, and as we get to the end of the campaign I wanted to thank you again for all that you and the Hadenough/BlueAmerica team have done for us and the other candidates. []
Without Hadenough we wouldn’t be running any commercials. As soon as we saw it on fdl we put it on Carol’s website (with Walden’s numbers next to an explanation about how Coleen Rowley was running against rubberstamper John Kline). Just asking you all if it could get adapted for us seemed like a big deal, yet the answer was always yes, all the interactions were always easy and fast, and soon we were running our own 60 second spot in our only two “metro” areas of Medford and Bend. Since we didn’t have much money the ads, played sparsely, were sort of symbolic, but most everything about this campaign has been sort of symbolic, and it felt good.
And then a couple of days ago the Democratic Party of Oregon sprung $10,000 for us to run the ad the last week of the campaign. ….~~~
A well told tale. Lots of puppeteer strings-
-the puppeteers likely prefer to remain not
seen or not known. Washington DC may indeed
look like a time displaced island of Greek
and Roman styled buildings but Byzantine
Constantinople would have served as a more
apt model given DC standards of politics and
the sway of money and vested corporatism plots
and schemes that pervade DC. American Democracy
versus American Dollaracy being the contest at
hand. The stakes and outcomes are high indeed
and it is certain the Dollarists will not lay
down their arms meekly. Iraq invasion a clear
illustration of how they see America in the
world. As for those of us who dont see America
that way but seek some humility and a less war
and greed driven view of 21st century America
all battles must be engaged in fully to reach
it. The Dollarists in DC are well entrenched
and will not yield willingly. The election is
on November 7th. On November 8th it is time for
grass roots DEMS to take on DC DEMS such as
Chuck,Rahm and Hilary. We know whose flag they
fly and follow. And it aint “Dont Tread on Me”.
Patrick 4/4 @ 40
I hope people remember all the things Dr. Dean has done to help real liberals get back in the game. Just getting elected DNC honcho was quite a battle for him and he made it happen. The 50 State Strategy is such a great compliment to Blue America, Roots Project, etc. He has stood up to to the bullies and is really shaking shit up. Bravo!
Dean has also been smacking down (very clear and concisely) the Corporate Media robots when they try the tired lines about liberals. It’s been fun to watch. I especially enjoyed this one with “Legz” Couric.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..ward-dean/
Pachacutec Great Post! It shows alot of deep, balanced reflection on the shifting ground we now feel rumbling beneath our feet. My cynicism remains quite deep about the American political scene, I’ve seen and remember too many false starts and ‘paradigm shifts’ from the past several decades, but due to a profound sense of morbid curiosity, I still hold out a ray of hope that I will live long enough to see the Rabid Right and their DC/K St lackeys receive their very own, in their soulless faces, day of reckoning, their “Karma-geddon” if you will.
I keep hearing the Talking Heads say that all the latest scandals will not have much of an effect on this election because of the record number of mail in ballots this year. However I thought that liberals were the ones casting those votes because we don’t trust Diebold vote counting machines. Is there any reason why conservatives would suddenly start mailing in their votes? I think the mail in votes would help us but by how much I wonder.
raven — how long do you think the opposition will take for a break?
Yeah.
I’ll also share with you that the state legislature’s campaign committee here in this state told a local candidate on January 2006 when he was ready to announce his candidacy that he should already have in hand $100,000 for his race.
The candidate had $10k and ended up spending the next 6-plus months amassing the next $50K, time he should have spent campaigning instead of fundraising.
That is the brutal, f*cking reality we are up against, down at the level of state legislature; that’s not even a Congressional seat.
We begin on the First Wednesday after the election if we are truly going to take back our country; democracy never sleeps.
Please just a day to rest and regroup. I haven’t seen friends or family in ages. I promised after Tuesday I would return all phone calls from last six months.
raven @ 50
Howie Klein @
20
The neighbor lady I brought last time was so jazzed by the experience of voting again (she hadn’t voted previously since JFK) that she called ME to remind me that I was taking her to the polls. LOL!
You are right but I’m just thinking about “one last plea for contributions” and then asking again. Just a thought, no big deal.
Rayne @ 60
Margot @ 61
That’s a great story! Thanks for sharing it.
raven @ 51
Well, I’m kicking $25 a month to a Dean fund now, and I would just as soon switch it to a Blue America fund where I would feel more confident it would go where it will really do some honest-to-God grassroots good. I’m probably not the only one.
Look, I get that you guys need to take some down time. I’ve got two school-aged kids with whom I need to spend more time on stuff like science projects.
But I’ve got a small business, two kids, in-laws in poor health, a house to sell, a house to keep, a spouse who’s rarely home because of the demands of his job.
There is NO day off for me. Frankly, taking two minutes to chuck $25 in a coffee can the day after the election would be a light day after giving 30 to 40 hours a week to activism for the last year.
Sorry I brought it up.
Marion in Savannah @ 65
Well, I’m kicking $25 a month to a Dean fund now, and I would just as soon switch it to a Blue America fund where I would feel more confident it would go where it will really do some honest-to-God grassroots good. I’m probably not the only one.
An important thing to remember is the DC Dems are split. There are the Hilary people and then there are the anyone but Hilary people. The second group is surprisingly large.
There is real opportunity to make them accomodate the roots.
Marion in Savannah @ 64
Wow! that is a great notion! I will make sure Howie sees it, in case he’s not reading right now! As much as I respect Dean and his efforts, I am not part of a Dean fund. But, I could def. see giving to a Blue America fund.
Pachacutec @
3
That’s how I do my best writing, stewing and turning over and bouncing ideas off other people (usually unwittingly!), putting things together, taking them apart, taking 50 threads and sewing them together.
Love that process. Seems like the best analyses come from that. It always shows, like it does here. You’ve really opened my eyes to a new way of seeing things. I’d add that there might be the fourth group of people, the wingnuts who aren’t theocrats. A strange concept, I know, but most of them don’t seem to be truly spiritual. Pretenders, maybe, paying lip service to the “traditional” value because they think they’re supposed to, while they themselves aren’t genuinely religious.
Marion in Savannah @ 64
Well, I’m kicking $25 a month to a Dean fund now, and I would just as soon switch it to a Blue America fund where I would feel more confident it would go where it will really do some honest-to-God grassroots good. I’m probably not the only one.
You’re not the only one. I once heard Howard Dean say that he noticed that every time he speaks out on TV that the DNC notices a spike in donations. I made a mental note to donate the next time he spoke out against some moron on TV. They been dippin’ in to my checkbook every month since then. I’ve been thinking about moving that money, too.
GrandmaJ @ 53
They’re going to say that no matter what. Why? because they
liespin. Blame it on the six year cycle, whateverI feel a wave coming, almost ; )
This coming election and the one coming in 2008 is a struggle for nothing less than the very soul of the Democratic party. These elections are not just a fight against the evil that the Republican party has come to represent.
Primo post. Nice concise layout of what’s really happening vs the media/pundit conventional wisdom labeling.
Establishment detests any attempts at reform. MatTaibbi commented on what David Brooks & the DLC have in common: “they’re only truly offended by people of their own backround who happen to be idealistic”.
Grassroots progressives are just too uppity for the status quo gatekeepers. That’s confirmation of being on the right track.
Wear blue Tuesday… a shirt, a scarf, a finger mark. For progressives, for blue collar…the working people who built this country will rebuild it. For true blue spirit.
Get Out Our Vote. Vote blue.
I agree an excellent post. It brings out why some of us, while supporting the Democratic Party, are also so critical of it. Establishment Democrats are very much part of the problem and we should expect them not only to claim victories they don’t deserve but to obstruct holding the Bush Administration accountable for its disasters, corruption, incompetence, and criminality.
What I would add about most, although not all, evangelicals is that it is very hard to make common cause with them because they are so impervious to reason and facts and so willing to vote their
prejudice“faith” even when this is in every other way against their interests.I heard a few reports today from parishioners of Ted Haggard’s church. They were in full defensive mode, no self-examination or questioning involved. Something happened but nothing changed for them. I heard churchgoers in Nashville who said they were going to vote for Corker although they didn’t particularly like him because they thought he was more a man of faith, not to mention that he is whiter, than Ford.
Lastly, what makes the corporatists of K Street so noxious to our democracy is their money. Money has thoroughly corrupted our political system. It is not that our legislators are for sale that is surprising. It is how cheaply they can be bought. The Supreme Court has put its blessing on this corruption by declaring money equals free speech and wrapping it in 1st Amendment protections. That is obscene.
Noetheless, I am looking forward to Tuesday whether Democrats win 15 seats or 30, whether they take the House or both the House and Senate. I realize the struggle to take back our democracy has just begun and that those that oppose good, common sense government will rage against the dying of their light.
LindyH @ 1
Is anyone else really sick of this?
VG, Thanks for bringing it to Howie’s attention. I recall from another thread a week or two ago there were a few of us talking about Democracy Bonds and the Dean funds in some other context. My guess is that FDL folks would feel MUCH more “empowered” and comfortable with the idea that we’d actually possibly have some input into where the bucks went. Unless there’s some legal reason why it can’t happen, why not just keep the Blue America PAC going, looking forward not only to 2008 but beyond?
Hi ValleyGirl…
Hey Howie, you still around?
Hey Firedogs !
wow Pach, simply wow –
those months of stewing really paid off – talk about “must show work”
hey Coz,
not so much here in our county, but the second you cross the county line, party affiliations have mysteriously evaporated from all their signs*g*
hey Rayne,
is the good congressman Hoekstra taking much heat at home for his Nukes for Dummies website ?
Hugh- you always have such great comments- not to single you out among others, of course, but your range of commentary is impressive. I still hark back to the “In defense of English as the national language” series, which was def. a highlight for me!!!
ironranger @ 73
Speaking of Bobo Brooks, did you see this nonsense he put out last week. I used to think he at least seemed reasonable. Not anymore…
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610310001
cbl — I sure hope the folks in Hoekstra’s district are beating him with a cluestick, but I really don’t know if they are. That area of Michigan is hardcore religionist country, likely to read only RNC approved media which would surely give Hoekstra a pass.
But we are only just starting; if we can pull off a House majority, Hoekstra will get a beating from Congress and then the ‘wingers in his ‘hood will catch on. They didn’t wake up after that stupid waste of money on which Hoekstra signed off, about Iran…they’re going to need some very blunt stuff about the man before they clue in.
The fly in the ointment is diebold voting machines – they belong to the republicans and as such they will also help Lieberman. Don’t let your friends and relatives use the diebolds. They were pushing the diebolds at my precinct. I had to ask to use one of the paper ballot machines.
Thoughtful work, Pach. I must study it carefully in order to share it. It looks like an extremely accurate synopsis to me.
Marion in Savannah @ 77
I’m as certain as I can be, without inside info, that Howie intends to keep the BA Pac going, if for no other reason than to provide support for candidates in “unexpected” elections- that is, when various crooks still in office fall as a result of the continuing Abramoff investigations. No guarantee on that, and please don’t hold me to it, but that is my sense based on some of his comments here and there.
Insightful analysis. I am somewhat mystified though by FDLs’ constant and totally uncritical lionization of Ned Lamont.
Yes, Leiberman is loathsome, but Ned as a grassroots progressive? He has as much actually in common with normal, non-super rich progressives as George Bush does with average mega-church attending, gay-fearing evangelical conservatives – nothing. Ned is a nice guy and progressive by inclination but for god sakes he’s a member of YPO (Young Presidents Organization ) with a high-powered investment banker wife and a Greenwich lifestyle with all the accoutrements. The reality is that he and Bush have far more in common with each other than with many of their most ardent supporters. It’s to Neds credit that he promotes progressive policies and I would certainly vote for him, but to hold him up as the symbol of any new progressive movement is a stretch and,in my view, misguided.
cbl — here, maybe you’ll like this bit from MichiganLiberal.com on Hoekstra. If only the ‘wingers read MichiganLiberal…
It was worth all the stewing, Pach! BRILLIANT analysis! Congratulations
I too would like to say that this is the best post I’ve seen on Firedoglake in quite a while.
I have an unpleasant suspicion that when the DC/K Street Elites turn on the Grassroots Progressives after the elections, things are going to turn very, very, nasty indeed.
Nate!!! I’m here, but I don’t think Howie is reading right now.
So, how are things on your election front?
Thanks Cozumel, I am a nervous ninny and should just sit tight and be patient. Unfortunately, patience is not my strong suit. But wait we must.
VG, I hadn’t thought of the “unexpected” elections… (What a charming turn of phrase!) My guess is that all the crooks and pervs won’t be voted out on Tuesday, so we have to be ready!
Pach,In my heart of hearts I pray that you are spot on with your “future history” of the grassroot progressives takeing this country.My deepest fear is a cold,grim understanding of what we are going nose to nose with….the “elite”who were born in the right bed,or those who have stabbed,hacked,or clawed their way to the top of our society.Verry few “nice” people get there.
I see a lot of people in my work…lots of public contact.There is one hell of a lot of scared,pissed-off folks now who are paying real close attention to politics…they know what the stakes are now…and that those in power do NOT have their best interests in mind.
I only pray the wave that is forming now is so powerful, so strong,and so clean it will wash the stench from the halls of our government ,and make me once again proud of being a american
sandyhook – there are many folks in the new progressive movement that are well-to-do. Being a good business person doesn’t mean that one can’t be an effective advocate for progressive values.
If anything, it’s the fact that many of the new progressives are successful at what they do that makes us such a threat to the radical right-wing of this country. They accuse us of being tax-and-spend and fiscally irresponsible, when that’s far from the case. We are many of us gifted with talents and skill in management, and can effectively make a compelling case that being progressive is not incompatible with being personally successful. Heck, it can a fundamental reason for personal financial success.
I also think you need to do your homework; while Lamont’s family history is monied, Lamont is a self-made man. Isn’t that the American Dream, to be able to succeed in spite of and not just because of one’s background?
Pach
Thank you for your deep commitment to this cause.
I’ll admit I have so far only skimmed your wonderful post because, right now, I’m just plain too tired to see or think straight. I look fwd to a fresh brain tomorrow for devouring it and the already wonderfully long trail of comments. Maybe I’m naive and uneducated in these matters, but I don’t know of anyone else dissecting this subject in the way that you folks do.
Your tireless dedication may just save this poor tired old nation. Whether so or not, for the first time in several years, I feel we have a decent shot at turning things around.
If we can work together and accomplish that, I’m gonna blame you in large part, dear soul! ;->
Bonkers: I’ve noticed that a lot of conservative columnists & others have been falling apart lately. They start out writing on one theme & then it turns into something else, contradictory or incoherent gibberish.
It’s like cement made with mostly sand. It’s only a matter of time before it disintegrates.
Bulldada @ 76
Look around you. Perhaps you’re in the wrong place? Or maybe you’re just new to the internets. The first-post phenomenon has been going on at least since 1999, perhaps even earlier. Slashdot was the first website to employ comment code in a way that lent itself to first-posting, but now it’s largely seen as inevitable once a site that allows comments reaches a threshold level of traffic. The FITZ first post here emerged from the initial focus of FDL, which was the outing and subsequent investigation of l’affair du Plame. I for one am looking forward to the day that all the election silliness is over for a little while, and Jane and Redd can go back to instructing us in the finer points of how to prosecute charges of obstructing justice.
People still refer to the slashdot effect, although not nearly as much as they did four or five years ago. Fark.com has much the same effect on links that get posted to its front page, as does Atrios (and to a lesser extent, FDL).
Anyhow. Be happy that people here post FITZ or ROOTZ or NED or HOWIE or PACH or some variation that is somehow relevant to the topic at hand, and not some crazy post about goatse, GNAA or the penis-bird. And I’m not going to link to any one of those topics, but if you don’t know what they are, don’t google them from work, and have the eye-bleach ready at hand.
As an aside- I’ve always been surprised that more blogs don’t use slashcode. Can anyone tell me why user moderation isn’t more popular on high traffic blogs like FDL? I realize that Haloscan comments are a limiting factor for many forums, but it seems to me tha there is a lot of value in user moderation.
Valley Girl @ 88
Great VG. It’s my birthday tonight and I’m celebrating by leaving in about 45 minutes to finally go do my interview with Charlie Brown. Looks like Paul Hackett will be there as well.
I sent an email to Howie, Jane, TRex and several others in case they get it in time and want me to try and ask any specific questions.
eg…
Left a little note toward bottom of last post.
Marion in Savannah @ 89
http://downwithtyranny.blogspo…..tupid.html
Above is Howie’s post on the subject of the Abramoff fallout. Snippet below, but note that some of the names he names in this post (a while back) look like they are NOT GOING TO SURVIVE the election (Burns, Musgrave, Simmons…)
~~~HK: As I said before, there are a whole lot of GOP solons from low information districts who will be re-elected only to face almost immediate indictment and the same eventual fate as former GOP congressmen/current prison inmates Duke Cunningham and Bob Ney.
FBI insiders, or at least those with inside info from FBI employees familiar with the Abramoff case, are betting that almost instant indictments are looming for Alaska’s Don Young, Florida’s Tom Feeney, John Doolittle, Jerry Lewis, Duncan Hunter, Ken Calvert and Dirty Dick Pombo of the Golden State and Phil English and Don Sherwood of Pennsylvania, as well as for former GOP Crime Boss Tom DeLay. But it doesn’t end there. Apparently Abramoff has said enough about 3 U.S. Senators– Jim Talent (MO), Conrad Burns (MT) and John Ensign (NV)– plus almost 20 other House members, for files to have been opened on all of them. And some of those files are getting pretty fat. Conrad Burns is a sure bet for a long prison sentence and it is unlikely that there will not be indictments of Denny Hastert (IL), John Sweeney (NY), Cathy McMorris WA), Virgil Goode (VA), J.D. Hayworth (AZ), Marilyn Musgrave (CO), Ann Northup (KY), Robin Hayes (NC), Charlie Taylor (NC), Heather Wilson (NM), and Gil Gutknecht (MN). Cases are in the early stages against Mike Ferguson (NJ), Tom Tancredo (CO), Barbara Cubin (WY), Tom Davis (VA), Ron Simmons (CT), Mike Rogers (MI), and Jim Gerlach (PA).~~~
millerfisk @
44
Wonderful! I wish we had such a blessing here in San Antonio, but part of the reason for our lack of Dems for every slot is that we elect our judges here, and the local party slacked off at some point (I would guess after Cisneros left the mayor’s office) and let the seats hanging in the wind.
Still, this ballot was much, much better than previous ones, only a half dozen judge’s spots were missing, which is a vast improvement. We had whole non-judicial offices simply abandoned here, but no more, woo hoo!
Dean’s 50-state strategy will pay off, in the long run:
1) By having candidates in every race, you automatically siphon the Republican’s money from the top races. We’re seeing the effects of this already, with the Republicans having to make hard choices this time around of who to fund and not fund, which I haven’t seen in about, oh, 20 years, at least. Imagine them bailing on a Rick Santorum or Mike DeWine in 2002. But they have to, now, because so many other races now have unexpected, serious challengers. This is the beauty of fighting them for every spot on the ballot that we can, red or blue state, tooth and nail. Yeah, we have to make the financial investment and some hard choices of our own. But we’re not alone anymore.
2) When you invest in the “measly” dogcatcher type races, it’s not to give the illusion that an election in our system needs a challenge betweeen two parties, so you might as well be one of them. The more important factor is that you have someone relatively new to the process in there who is getting political experience, building a name for himself, and boosting the party while he’s at it. But it’s the training ground aspect that is vital here. This time, he’s county commissioner. Tomorrow he’s state legislator. Next year, he’s State Ag Commissioner. Next election, he’s US Rep from the 12th district. And so forth. This is how parties are built, how they have always been built, because it works. You don’t get there by letting just anybody run under your banner because he has a dilettante’s urge to be in politics, or because you need to give the illusion of having a political party, so you have someone run for office with your seal of approval.
3) When you’re serious about running a dog-eat-dog race up and down a ballot, you’re gonna figure out how to find good people, convince them to run or support whoever runs, raise money, reach out to voters, and win a damned race, one way or another. In other words, you’re building a strong base for your support apparatus. Candidates do not win or lose elections by themselves. They live and die by their campaign staffs. So, as in #2 where you give candidates experience with the school board elections and on up the chain, you’re grooming future staffers for bigger and bigger things. The more they learn at the county level, the more ready they will be for statewide and national races.
Politics is a serious business, and the Dems have failed to do that, for far too long.
Well, like Adie I’m about to have to prop my eyelids open with toothpicks and I’m saving them for Tuesday night. Good night, Firedogs. Dream sweet dreams of victory on Tuesday….
Rayne – big thanks – couldn’t really find anything in the Detroit papers (all sports, all the time)
My biggest worry is another possible conclusion. Our progressive candidates catching a whiff of the big bucks and defecting to the K-Street side.
I hope not, but that really is my biggest fear for the movement.
Pachacutec @
3
Wow….thank you for your brilliant (dare I say spellbinding) analysis. You sure know how to lift spirits on a Saturday night! ((((PACH))))
ironranger @ 94
In TV, that’s what happens right before your show gets cancelled.
Have a great b’day Nate! Well, you could always ask Brown about the grassroots and the net roots, and, oh, you could ask what he thinks of Rahmie..
What would be happening right now without the Internet and blogs? All this stuff came along just in time. It was really getting dire, and still is but at least we’re fighting back now and hard. Don’t know about you, but these people never represented the Democratic Party to me, and here’s further proof….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200….._clinton_1
and look, the next generation is getting in line…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..clinton_dc
sandyhook @ 85
Ned is a successful business man. Bush failed at everything he touched. They do not have much in common. Wealth gives one freedom to pursue causes. You can gain wealth by others supporting you or you can earn it. However leaders in liberal causes often were independently wealthy. Ted Kennedy and other wealthy individuals often have great motivation to make it a better world. And they have the drive to succeed. I like Ned the more I see him. He is a progressive. The elitists on the other hand feel entitled to be in charge and it is all about them. This analysis is right on. However the grassroots have support from all walks of life – it is a populist approach not an elitist approach. The key will be to continue to support our represtatives and make sure they are not co-opted by the collegiality of the elists, like the Clintons have been.
And I would add to my analysis of siphoning Republican money from the top is that one thing this election has exposed (without much observation) is that it turns out the mighty Republican fundraising machine doesn’t have as deep of pockets as we thought. Don’t get me wrong, they are deep, aand we can’t back off our fundraising efforts for a second. But they still have limits.
This is good to know.
Rayne @ 32
Rayne, the dilemma you describe is all too familar.
To me, the difference between “values” and “parties” is absolute.
[Thought experiment. A “pro-rape” and an “anti-rape” political party come forth.
The “anti-rape” party is so negative - and so tedious. Why shouldn’t the “pro-rape” party’s views have equal time?]
I love the values expressed at FDL.
They ain’t the GOP leaders’ values.
FDL values just happen to be majority values – family, community, responsibilty, sharing.
I learned those values in a neighborhood – and a household – of Republicans.
Most of my schoolkid friends show the same values forty years later.
The nice big home with the putting greens on the lawns was the home of the Leisure World guy. They lived across the street from the Chandlers – of the LA Times family.
Our good and close family friends across the street (from my “growing-up” home) moved there when their dad became chief legal counsel of a major energy company.
Family, community, responsibilty, sharing – safety, respect. Reverence for living things. Respect for religious faith. Respect for military service – every dad on the street of my Dad’s age was in uniform in WW II.
Looks like we’ll win big Tuesday.
Our values – progressive values – are mainstream values.
And traditonal values.
And American values.
And patriots’ values.
The GOP Corporate Authoritarians are really good for those whose paramount values are….
dividends
“Progressives” are really good for everyone with kids, grandkids, sisters, brothers, family, friends, pets, plants, and/or lungs.
I’m hoping the progressive community will find the terms to transcend “R” and “D” and just flat-out welcome the citizens and neighbors who want different choices….
Valley Girl @ 97
I sure hope that the investigations don’t get called off because they lose their elections. I want these bastards to do hard time. Nothing would make me happier than seeing Fat Denny in an orange jumpsuit and leg-irons, picking up trash on the side of I-94.
cbl — no problem. The all-sports-24/7 has actually helped Granholm’s polling, so I can’t complain; DeVos couldn’t “make news” against her with so many journos assigned to the Tigers and now other teams. But it would be nice if real news about Hoekstra actually made it through Michigan’s media.
Rayne- i’m not attacking Lamont- I just would not make him the posterboy of any progressive movement. Also,starting with fifty million and making another five(do a little homework of your own on his financial records) is hardly “self-made”. Horatio Alger he ain’t.
Siun @
11
GOTV
From here on all candidates and public speakers should drop ever last ounce of negative attacks or issues except for one…
Everybody Should Get Out and Vote!
Tomorrow we’re going to hear the Saddam verdict and the Repubs will try to make a big whoop about it.
The Dem response should be, “Well then, VOTE!”
Dems shouldn’t fear this situation. We’re winning in all geographic areas, on all issues, in the House and Senate, on domestic and foreign affairs, on wedge issues and on real issues. We’re winning everywhere people are voting.
Vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote!
rats, I’ve got one stuck in moderation, don’t I? Was I feeding a troll?
smiley @ 104
Late stage Happy Days: Fonzy walks in. Crowd goes nuts.
Terminal stage Happy Days: Erin Moran walks in. Crowd goes nuts.
The Reps have no script because half the show is taken up with self-congatulation. When you think that the key point of the election is that Rick Santorum has to be re-elected or the terrorists win, you’ve pretty much run out of material.
While I am in aggreement with what has been said, and truly hope the GRASSROOTS come through on Tuesday, this will only be the opening salvo. The internet will be next, and protection of it is paramount. So when the first battle has been won on Tuesday, we need to deploy full forces on keeping the internet available to ALL CITIZENS – RICH, POOR, MIDDLECLASS. Keep this communication line alive to all, and our efforts will be worth it.
sandyhook @ 110
So Lieberman is “self-made”? Yeah, I guess so, in a certain way.
I smell concern troll.
Valley Girl @ 117
Like a madam is self-made. But first she had to sell herself a lot of times to the right people to get there.
Patrick 4/4 @114: Ha ha, that’s great- I didn’t even need to say ‘jump the shark’ and you were on the same wavelength!
They deliver an applause line, and nobody claps. But they’re so used to the crowd going wild, they pause anyway to let the crowd die down… and all you hear is the baying of the dogs of war.
LJ/Aquaria: ‘xactly.
Who said anything about Lieberman- I think he’s a weasel. And what on earth is a “concern troll”?
Bulldada @ 102
A la Barack Obama? We’re bound to get fooled sometimes. Tis a fear we’ve got to respect and keep on truckin’. Like growing and weeding a garden. (Metaphorically, that is – through the voting process and legal means only, of course.)
hackworth @ 123
As long as our candidates stay beholden to the progressives that put them there, we don’t have anything to worry about. Like my dad’s management philosophy, “if one of them gets out of line, leave their dead body out for the rest to see.”
You know what I really enjoy, besides the baying of the dogs of war punctuated by crickets chirping into the silence?
The beads of sweat on their upper lip and the furrowed foreheads knotted with uncomfortable and unfamiliar anxiety, accompanied by a squirming shift of weight in their seat.
Delicious. Am thoroughly enjoying watching Pat Buchanan wriggle restlessly as he tries to both condemn and defend Republicans. You can almost see him fighting the urge to tug at his almost too-tight collar and necktie.
VG,
100% Pure Progressive Porn
had to ask the guy behind the DWT counter for my copy*g*
a little ironic in that I found FDL trying to scratch that Abramoff itch – that jones pretty much fell to the wayside as my attachment to this place, this community, and my reawakened activism grew. On top of all that may come to pass on Tuesday, dear Jack is still out there – the Johnny Appleseed of corruption – rewarding good little blog urchins everywhere
I still remember Santorum at a fund raiser telling people to put his bumper sticker on their vehicles to support the troops. What a fruit loop.
Wow, Pach. Great one.
About a year ago you and I exchanged some brief comments here. I have seen you work and work to put into action your thoughts and words. Well done.
Pach and all….WOW…talk about waking up the
sleeping grandmother and making her think and realize that much of what was said in this article hit me right between the eyes and said…that is what you have been feeling for the past year… Now I understand all my frustration with DC and all that has happened. I have been in turmoil with many since the chimp was elected and then all that has transpired in the past five plus years. I believe I joined FDL a year or so ago and it has really opened me up to see things much differently. I have learned so much and have
become active to a point that I send letters all the time to my rep and many others every week and either thank them or complain! :)
Right now I want to print this out and show it to my husband as he was always the political activist in the family and now he says to me each night…what did you find out tonight?
All I can say right now is THANK YOU!! You have made my day! This election will now be even more important to me!
cbl- Howie had a pretty long list, didn’t he? But, you probably noticed that Jack is not altogether “out there”, now that he has his very own special desk at the FBI. hehe.
sandyhook @ 121
from wiki:
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concern_troll
Wow- this is pretty complicated- I just want to see goopers unemployed.
rwcole @ 131
I want to see them locked up, making license plates. preferably in some Hague-approved prison for convicted war criminals.
I don’t think I’m the only one.
Maybe it is time to start our own party
Pachacutec @
3
Thanks for taking the time. With the multi-cycle cleanup job the Shrub experiment is leaving us, we will need to keep analyses like this in mind.
smiley-
I second that emotion.
bilbo @ 134
Much easier to take over the one you belong to. Ask Lenin.
bilbo @ 133
The party of the One Ring! We’ll Rule them All!
no no, wait, that’s probably bad. And of course Senator Man-on-Dog is already working on it.
What about the greens?
rwcole @ 135
But do you feel like giving Jane a lifetime of devotion?
bilbo @ 134
Takes too long and a three way vote split is a party killer. Our best bet is to progressively grassroots the democratic party and reform it in our own image. That’s the name of the game.
Patrick 4/4 @ 137
And much more affective, ask Nader (or Perot, or T. Roosevelt, etc.)
I have a good friend from grad school. He was always a communist during grad school but recently he decided that capitalism had one. He’s a great guy and now a retired university professor. In 2000 I had some long political discussions. He finally pulled out a piece of paper that was the manifesto of the green party. “what do you think of this?” my friend said.
Well- it looks great- but anyone running on this platform would get no more than 3% of the vote.
My friend found that a trivial point- although he agreed that it might be true. It’s, after all, the principle that’s important.
Very productive, all that stewing and conversation, Pach – great analysis! Thanks much.
Thats why we need a “P-Street” fund, a.k.a. the November 8th or First Wednesday fund. A fund which keeps building with small donations from Progressives which by the next election is substantial. It will keep the true progressive on the straight and narrow and only be apportioned to those that did not sell out come re-election time. We as a community can nominate our recipients.
Bulldada @ 124
rwcole @ 143
Yep. Screw the spiritual and moral victories. Me want wins.
TRexPach for 2, upstairs now.Kick ass, Pach. Great analysis. Go Progressives.
Put the Theocrats back where they belong…church!
Excellent analysis. I think the battle within the Democratic party is well on its way already, with the most salient example of “eating your own” being Hillary Clinton’s altogether self-serving comment on the “inappropriateness” of Kerry’s bungled speech. My assumption is that she is already at work to eliminate her (perceived) competition for the presidential nomination. It is hard to imagine any other reason for her to join the Republicans in trashing a Democrat, any Democrat, at this particularly crucial pre-election time.
rwcole:
You’ve been here since I was a commenter. But your suggested argument that a progressive movement is analagous to the Greens is total strawman bullshit. If progressives do well in this election, how does that make them analogous to the Greens?
I find you intellectually dishonest in suggesting this comparison. You’ve been dinging us in our support for Lamont for months and months. Maybe you will like the commentary better at the MSNBC ally at HotSoup. Would that be a more welcoming home for your point of view?
I’m not interested in your polling reports. I’m not interested in your reframing of arguments in favor of establishment Dems: I’ve read them over and over. If you’re not willing to make common cause with the constituencies I describe in my outline of Grassroots Progressives, then perhaps this is not the site for you? I speak only for myself, not this site.
Speakout @ 28
Dante has a special place in Hell for these kind of wishy-washy people. It’s called purgatory, and considered worse then all the other levels. I would have to agree with Dante, because these people are the enablers with their silence.
Pach—Jezums- you really hate my ass apparently. Sorry.
we are all excited but “they” count the votes, unfortunately.
Bulldada, way to make someone feel good.
Ian Welsh @ 12
Check again. Pach referred to the Grassroots Theocrat crowd as a (now failing) populist movement, and to the Grassroots Progressive movement as a new populism.
rwcole, JohnCasper, Scarecrow — all great commentors and independent thinkers. I look forward to your comments, your ideas, and all the information you share, even poll reports. Thank God for Christy, her generous tolerance of others.
There have been other wonderful, gifted commentors who were here in the beginning and who have dropped out and away — and I miss them. I hope you stick around, rwcole. I don’t know you, but love your contributions to this community.
As one who’s felt pretty disillusioned by my 2 Dem senators (thanks for that pro-bankruptcy-for-the-poor-but-lets-not-limit-the-corporations vote), this post makes me happy and renews my faith in mankind.
Great reading Pach. Thanks!
rwcole @
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Not personal. Just about ideas and quality of thought. Calling it “personal” is another of your many straw men.
You’re of course weclome to hang around as long as you like. But accept critique as you give it.
I’ve tried to post a few gems, but they don’t show up. What’s up with that?
Bb @ 116
This is very important. Here in Ohio, I’m able to correspond with like-minded people—and we don’t even have to travel to do it. We don’t have to shovel the cars out of the snow, or brave the heat. We have huge email lists and we USE THEM.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
Interesting. But. Let’s look at a little history here to understand why we find ourselves in our current predicament.
It was the Lewis Powell Letter that brought enormous sums of money into political campaigns. Powell urged business to take a much larger role in politics. Additionally he urged ‘publicity’ campaigns to “change the way the American people think ..” – hence the right-wing “think tanks.”
All that money cascading in from American business, into campaigns and “think tanks” moved the whole political spectrum to the right.
It takes money to get elected. Big money. It’s little wonder that K street plays a prominent role.
Somehow, some way, REAL campaign finance reform has to come about. And there should be some way to cut the blatant lying out of campaigns.
The existence of the Republic hangs in the balance.
Wonderful post, absolutely wonderful! Important points made by Jane last night and Pachacutec drives in with the roots of the problem tonight. Hugh mentioned money in the same manner of thought this post brought forth for me.
No matter what the outcome, crews of think tanks from all persuasions are repositioning. It’s far from over with so many Katherine Harris’s in our city councils and on school boards up to our so called intel agencies. Big bible, big money, big defense, big non-media, big fu**ing secrets are many of the battlefronts we face.
We must simply but forcefully bring their ‘truths’ into the light for as open and honest debate as society is prepared for, and then some. Regardless of ones position on governmental affairs the facts need to be quickly brought forth on a national MSM and congressional level. I hope this is possible because it’s not going to be easy for this country to really take a serious look in the collective mirror.
I also hope with all my heart this country is ready and willing to do what it takes for representation of the people to come first. If it is, we have got to provide oversight / clarity and clean out the Neo / Theo / Money trio wherever it lingers in any party,
If we can achieve and maintain integrity in our party while demanding the same in others no matter the threat, be it war or economic crisis, truth will keep us fighting for the higher possibilities of our democracy.
We progressives are going to have to get the country to realize net neutrality is important and corporate profiteering entitlements or secret government entitlements to it are not an option.
I believe campaign finance reform will provide a leveling of the field and hopefully allow folks in office as well as the media to, you know, do their jobs. Oversight first then legislate.
The list is long and we will have to scramble like cats in water to pull it together as quickly as possible. Many will point fingers and laugh but the bad seeds will not be allowed to germinate for a while at least. I hope we get the chance.
Brilliant analysis, Pach. Thanks for the emphasis on and link to Clean Elections.
If anyone hanging onto this thread still has time, energy, money, or hope to spare at this late date, it’s not too late to join the California Nurses Association, and their allies in the League of Women Voters, AARP, Sierra Club, Common Cause, MoveOn and a bunch of progressive labor unions in their uphill battle to bring Clean Money Elections to California with Prop 89!!
We are, of course, being outspent and smeared by Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Tobacco, the HMOs, and the Insurance Cos. But we’ve got a very *lively* campaign going, with lotsa positive energy, and we’re not giving up, and we’re not going to go away.
If we can win here in California, the movement to dump the DC/K-Street crowd will really pick up momentum. Check out Yes on 89 — Californians for Clean Elections or California Nurses Association to see how you can help . . .
Jeez. Do I have to be the cynical naysayer, again? Pachacutec said:
“Grassroots Progressives: This new, emerging power center in American politics is making its bid for ascendancy as an alternative to the ruling coalition of the previously described two parties. It seeks to forge an alliance of secularists, pro-pluralist religionists, information elites on the Internet, working people and anyone not among the super-rich (including poor and middle class urbanites, suburbanites and small farmers). It also seeks to include privacy advocates and members of the creative class, including creators of music, software and films.”
Nice. That list includes, at best, maybe 10-20 percent of the population. Meanwhile, the Republicans and Democrats are both in bed with the powers that be (corporations, their lobbyists, etc.). If the Grassroots Progressives can’t find some sort of alliance with the heavy hitters, I don’t hold high hopes for a political turn around.
Don’t get me wrong. I am not a supporter of the “heavy hitters” and I am not against the so-called Grassroots Progressives, but let’s get realistic about the way that power politics works. If you don’t have a constituency to deliver or big bucks, what power do you have to exert?
If election Tuesday turns the ballgame over to the Democrats, I hope for a positive change of strategy and tactics. Those might even include a return to some components of the Bill of Rights. (hooray)… but I don’t think a mere change in the congressional power from GOP to Dems will shift the powers-that-be from the “Military-Industrial Complex” to a camp of political good guys.
I’ll be delighted to be proven wrong, if the new Demo majority manages to undo the Patriot Act, disassemble the HSA, reinstate Habeas Corpus, and reintroduce a solid definition of “torture.” Somehow, I’m not holding my breath.
All of which doesn’t mean that everyone reading this shouldn’t vote Demo. But, let’s be realistic about what we hope will be accomplished.
“Obama Linked to Accused Fundraiser”
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..Obama.html
This is a very good analysis! It should be noted… or emphasized. since it was noted that the Iraq war was/is/will be the undoing of the ruling cabal… call them what you will.
This was simply because it was such a massive failure. Sea change will really only come from these types of situations where there is a massive failure or breakdown… not from a response to a steady erosion of the nation’s soul.
These people simply ovrerplayed their hand… were too impatient to “steal” what they want slowly, incrementally. They made a big bold move which they thought they could get away with.
Yea they got a way with some massive stealing. But they have done so in a way that it is really hurting the people and they are waking up from their trust of the good intentions of the powerful and successful who swarm around and in governemnt.
Soon the whole curtain will drop revealing what a massive rip off the entire military establishment is and has been for almost 6 decades. These guys with the big guns have been bleeding america, taking her sons and daughters and making themselves massively rich and the people of the nation less and less safe with each new bit of adventurism and weapon system.
The flag waving patiriots are turning into marching Cindy Sheehans because of this war. They thought they could erase the blight of Vietnam… but they have only done worse. In the process they have sold the country to China and we are on the fast track to be a third world nation… military junta and all.
The massive amounts of lying and prevarication, hypocrisy and incompetance has become impossible to hide…it is leaking from everywhere in the power elite. The emperor’s clothes are shreading before the eyes of america.
To complete this coup de gras.. the war will have to be a complete and utter failure… with americans running out of Iraq with their tail between their legs. We are not there yet… and that may come in time for the next election cycle. As long as these idiots bkeep throwing more fuel on the fire over there… good money after bad… the inevitable end will come and the Perles and Kristols will seek safe heaven in some nation where they have well greased the palms of the ruling elite to protect them.
The progressive must really purge the nation from these miscreants, take back out airwaves, break up the monopoly bohemoth corporations which own our lives, get money out of politics, completely close the door between government and business and enact strict term limits to rid the people of professional politicians.
If we can put out people to work and generate tax revenue it can be returned as real quality of life benefits to the people.. health care, affordable housing, economic security and quality education.
But none of the good stuff can come untill the beast is really dead, buried and only a bad memory. The purge and change needs to be revolutionary and it will only be a phoenix rising from the completely and utter failure of the corporate military adventurism in Iraq.
Two more years and then all hell breaks loose. Perhaps by 2012 some calm may return… fasten your seat belts we are heading over the falls.
EvilDrPuma @
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Touche. I did not read carefully enough and relied on my impression too much, my apologies to Pach – let us then say that he did not put as much emphasis on it I would have. Which should not be taken as an attack, it’s an excellent article, and as I noted, one I largely agree with.
Saddam Hussein sentenced to death by hanging
POSTED: 6:02 a.m. EST, November 5, 2006