By the time I was born, John F. Kennedy had long since passed. But despite his abrupt fate in Dallas, the influence of President Kennedy's political philosophy on Democratic politics continues to tug both at the heart and the intellect, calling from the pages of history for all of us to step forward and do what is necessary to work toward a better America and a better world for us all.
We not only deserve much better than we have at the moment, the simple fact of the matter is that we all have the power to demand better. And it starts with each of us getting up, getting involved, and getting out our vote.
Every vote for change that we get into the ballot box puts us one step closer to some real accountability, some more honesty, some checks and balances. Politics and government get thrown out there as dirty words all the time but imagine, just for a moment, where we could be as citizens and as a nation, as a whole, if we all started thinking about what we could do to help each other out…and if the people we elected to represent us held themsleves to a much higher standard than what we are seeing now.
Imagine a Congress where you weren't wondering which member of the controlling Republican party was going to be indicted next. Imagine a President who put the interests of the least of these ahead of the interests of the folks who gave the most to him. Imagine, for a moment, a government that was evaluating threats and problems with an eye toward the long-term benefits, instead of just the short-term "what's in it for me" considerations.
Imagine real leadership, and then realize that, as a citizen and a voter, you have the right to demand it. From the people elected to represent you — and from yourself. You can make an enormous difference by simply standing up and asking to be heard.
I can still remember the very first time I read the inaugural speech of JFK as a kid. My parents had always been Democrats, and growing up in a predominantly blue collar family in West Virginia, in a mostly blue collar town that was almost entirely Democratic, I guess I had just always thought of myself as a Democrat.
But, at some point because I've always been a bit of a contrarian, I wanted to know exactly what that meant and whether it truly applied to me or not. And so I went to the source of a lot of the Democratic party wisdom that folks in my neighborhood seemed to quote to me when I asked pesky questions: the words of JFK, who is to this day revered in a lot of homes in West Virginia because he treated folks like equals when he campaigned in the hills and hollers here.
And I can recall the jolt that I got from reading this:
In your hands, my fellow citizens, more than mine, will rest the final success or failure of our course. Since this country was founded, each generation of Americans has been summoned to give testimony to its national loyalty. The graves of young Americans who answered the call to service surround the globe.
Now the trumpet summons us again–not as a call to bear arms, though arms we need–not as a call to battle, though embattled we are– but a call to bear the burden of a long twilight struggle, year in and year out, "rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation"–a struggle against the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease and war itself.
Can we forge against these enemies a grand and global alliance, North and South, East and West, that can assure a more fruitful life for all mankind? Will you join in that historic effort?
In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility–I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it–and the glow from that fire can truly light the world.
And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you–ask what you can do for your country.
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.
The fate of our nation, and of its place in our world, rests in our hands. Not someone else's — OUR hands. This is not a passive duty, but an active one — as citizens of this great republic, we have a duty, although it is an honorable one, to vote. And with that vote comes a responsibility, not just to our own generation, but to generations to come.
So I ask you, honestly, has the Republican party earned the nation's trust, or have they squandered it with their profligate spending and ever-increasing deficits that we will pass on to generations to come? Have they defended our nation by making smart choices and strengthening necessary alliances all the while reducing threats from our enemies? Or have they failed not only to make the right choices, but to also admit and learn from mistakes, so that the nation is made less safe by an increasing cycle of violence and hatred and chaos directed at us from the very enemies we sought to quell? Have we captured Osama Bin Laden yet?
Do you feel safer today than you did six years ago? Do you feel that your family is on more stable economic ground?
Do you trust George Bush and the Republican Party to change their ways in the next two years, when they have been consistently advocating "stay the course," never admitting a mistake, and never requiring even the slightest level of accountability from each other? Is America better served by a government that caters to its own internal cronyism and corruption — or by a divided government, wherein each branch, controlled by a differing party, keeps watch on the other as a check and balance as the Founders of this nation envisioned at our country's Constitutional inception?
The bottom line is: have the Republicans earned your trust over the last five years by improving things for and in America? Are we better off than we were six years ago? I say no.
Our nation is better than it's current leadership. We are, at our core, a nation which holds the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as important. Where equality of opportunity and the rule of law ought to be more than simply phrases that get test marketed for manipulative speechifying talking points for hand-picked audiences. Where asking for some measure of accountability from our elected officials is respected, instead of having elected officials question one's patriotism for standing up for the very documents on which our nation of laws is built.
If you need further inspiration for voting for Democrats, Part I of the Kennedy inaugural is here. And Dr. King's "I Have A Dream" speech is here. Both of these are a bit long, but worth it if you have not seen them in their entirety. And because, as Nietzsche once wrote in his Epigrams and Interludes, "[i]n music, the passions enjoy themselves.", I feel the need this morning also to link a song by Bruce Springsteen that is still achingly painful today. But the call to rise up must be heeded.
We are better than this. And it is well past time that we believed that again.
In your hands, there is hope. We have five days and counting until the election, and an entire weekend's worth of canvassing and GOTV calls to make. Americans have been calling out for some leadership, for someone to stand up and speak to their fear and their anger and their pain…and their hope…but what we have all failed to fully grasp is that the power for change is in our own hands, our own hearts. That we can make the difference, one action, one step, one hour of work at a time. That the leadership must come from each one of us — individually and, more importantly, standing together.
Won't you rise up today? Won't you volunteer for a local campaign or make phone calls or get involved in some activity that will move us forward and get out our vote? America is depending on you…this is no time to hope that someone else will pick up the slack, this is crunch time, and your efforts could make the difference for us on election day. Had enough? Vote for Democrats, and work to get out our vote…because America deserves better.
In your hands, there is hope.
(If you just need a laugh this morning, I'm also including Stephen Colbert's version of the Dr. King speech: "I Have A Dreamsicle." It's Thursday. Have a giggle.)
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Good Morning!
Democracy restored!
Ah, sweet sweet zero. Just what I need to get me ready for CT.
Morning — all hail the miracle that is coffee… *g*
Sringsteen
Thanks Raven — I’m sure there are more typos in this. That’s what I get for writing when my brain is tired. If anyone spots one, let me know…I’ll just be sipping my mug of hot java…
Just so y’all know, Kenny and I will be doing an interview on WKZE (CT) a little after 3 Eastern today, then the Rachel Maddow show tommorow evening on Air America. We will perform with Ned in New Haven on Saturday, then another deal on Sunday for, uh..another guy up there.
Look, I just go where they tell me.
I will endeavor to embody articulate rage.
Imus has a promo that Lieberman will be on his show tomorrow. He keeps talking about supporting Lieberman despite his dumb stance on Iraq. Chortling about the likelihood of a tied Senate and everyone having to come to Joe.
I dunno about you, but that’s the nightmare scenario as far as I’m concerned. Think Imus is willing to put Wyatt’s life on the line for Joe’s stubborn neocon voting and posturing?
I hope for better. A clear victory for Lamont. A clear sweep for Democrats. A tide of change. Democracy restored.
If you’d like to suggest–politely!–that Imus be as pointed with his buddy Joe as he was yesterday with Kerry…on everything from Iraq to his slush fund, the addy is:
imus@msnbc.com
hehehehe Tommy Yum — I’m sure you will do an excellent job. I can’t wait to see some pictures and hear the stories. I’m bummed for your’s and Ken’s sakes that Rickie Lee couldn’t make it — I know you guys were really looking forward to that, but you all are gonna kick some musical boo-tay. You guys are going to get Ned’s crowds seriously revved up! Plus, you’ll get to irritate Joe-nertia. What more can you ask for in a gig? *G*
Thanks, I wish every American could listen to that speech. Can’t someone hack it into a Rush L. broadcast?
They’re not gonna know what hit ‘em, Redd. I have that tingly feeling in my arms that makes me feel like Popeye.
They’re expecting six thousand people to turn out in New Haven.
Betty at 10 — I wish. SIGH What I would like is for all of us to remember that not only are we better than the current Bush Administration — but that we have the right to demand better from them.
btw, I know this is a bit of a rah rah post this morning, but the constant barrage of crabby news and finger pointing and everything else has been getting me down. I needed a pick-me-up, found the YouTube of Kennedy, and thought everyone else might enjoy it as well. More and more, I find myself turning back to history as a buffer against the current stench of corruption and failure. And this speech truly revs me up at the heart level. Hope you guys enjoy it.
Mornin’. I am feeling optimistic today because so many people I talk to are deeply motivated to change things. That isn’t going to stop after next Tuesday.
We are making history! People will study -us- in years to come.
Now get out there and MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Morning egregious! Here’s hoping the motivation for change translates into some serious voting!
You know, I was born (slightly) after the time of Kennedy as well. I was raised in a devout, northeastern, Irish-Catholic family in the 1970s. And it is so funny to listen to Kennedy’s speaking style, because I never realized before how much he sounds exactly like the Catholic priests of my childhood up in the pulpit. Which raises an interesting question — does Kennedy sound like an Irish Catholic priest, or did Irish Catholic priests begin imitating Kennedy in the late 60s-early 70s?
tommy yum @
11
awesome! i’ll be one of them, signed up last night for me and for some of my buds who will be in CT canvassing for ned this weekend… shit, how are we gonna find eachother among the other 6 thousand people.
christy – thank you for the rah-rah… it’s not a bad idea to remind ourselves that we are fighting for something as well as against the current moral and intellectual corruption.
I suppose it will be pretty unpopular to point out that ” Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty” was a rationale for the war in Vietnam.
Last night I saw Andrew Sullivan and Christopher Hitchens on with Paula Zahn. I am not a fan of either Sully or Hitch; however last night they were in rare acid tongue form. Sully got off the line of the campaign: “This
isn’t an election anymore, it’s an intervention.” You can see that and much more here:http://americanblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/andrew-sullivan-on-cnn
They won’t lie to me, not on my own damned tee-vee… What happened to Peace on Earth?
Powerful new song by Willie Nelson just played on Imus.
selise at 17 — here’s a tip on crowd management for small groups: everyone exchange cell phone numbers before you go. Cell phones usually irritate the crap out of me, I hate being “in touch” every waking minute of the day — but for a large crowd situation? No substitute. We could never have managed our vacation in Disney World last spring with our exchange student and her family without them. HTH!
old gold @ 19
Especially in CT.
I could use a big cup o’ optimism today and a little more coffee
‘morning all!
raven at 18 — Government is run by human beings, who are imperfect on the best of days. Standing up for liberty is a plus, in my book. Getting involved in a wrong-headed quagmire? Big minus. I say we teach that lesson to the Bush Administration five days from now. *g*
Selise–big ol’ sign saying “firedoglake for Lamont”?
CNN musta felt that slipper I threw at the tv a half hour ago – lead story is now about the captured soldier…
Thank you, thank you, for this great post about Kennedy. I was alive when he was president and I, like so many others, were shocked beyond measure the morning of his murder.
Where are the current leaders who could utter those words and make us, as a country, understand them? Not one of our current public leaders could say those same words and mean them.
But I also believe that somewhere in the new crop of dems that are running in every state, in precincts across this nation, there is a leader who has the stomach, the courage, the heart to lead us back from the brink.
And it most definitely is NOT Clinton, or Ford, or Obama. The only man I have known since them that could make one’s heart soar was Paul Wellstone.
I suggest we hold tight to each other because the battering has just begun.
But Reddhedd you are so right. Every generation has the challenge to keep this country on its path of freedom. We now have a clear picture of the enemy within. Can we take it on?
Next Tuesday is not the end, but only the opening paragraph of the rest of our struggle.
Christy,
When you have a chance, please check your e-mail, subject includes: J. Warner Def. Auth. Act
wonder why they aren’t showing al-Taai in his uniform?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 13
Thanks Christy, you are exactly right. The Republican attack machine–even when focused on complete non sequitur–still gives off a nauseating stench. I needed a breathe of fresh air. Thank you so much!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 21
for sure, for a small groups… but i’ve been encouraging a meetup (of fdl commenters and other blogger related people) at new haven… i don’t have a list of email addresses, let alone phone numbers. hmmm… maybe we’ll just have to pick a meetup place nearby to meet for a beer after the rally.
well, however it works out… i am so looking forward to the next few days!
I’m witcha. There are just things to me extend beyond party. John Kerry loved to rail about “Nixon’s War” and techically, since he and I were there when Nixon was president, it was. But the reality was that it started with JFK and I think it was a direct result of Democrats bieing painted into a corner by McCarthy and trying to appear “tough on communism”. I fear the next presidential election will see a similar situation with people like Hillary posturing to appear “tough”.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 23
Oh fiddle – great post but I cannot forget Howard Dean who awoke me once again from the deep slumber of complacence. Wellstone and Dean – wonder if they ever met.
egregious @ 25
hmmm… maybe a flag?
Christy, your unflagging idealism is what brings this ol’ lurker back to FDL day after day. You are a true blue American, firmly rooted in the ideals of our founders. I often seek consolation and inspiration from the past. Just prior to the election of GHWB, I remember reading the Declaration and breaking down at the words “with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.” It seemed there was no Honor then; how quaint and innocent those days seem now. These are indeed dark times, but there are better days ahead. Thank you and Jane and all of the FDL contributors for keeping the flame.
raven at 32 — actually, it was one of those things that Kennedy inherited from Eisenhower, if you want to get to the very root of it. The French had begun pulling out and we started filling in the gaps at the end of the Eisenhower administration. But Kennedy certainly escalated our presence there. So many mistakes made over the course of several administrations…it is a lesson in the need for sunshine in government and public oversight, that’s for sure.
I had a class with Tony Lake (Clinton’s national security advisor for his first term), who was on the ground in Vietnam as a translator and military/civilian attache for Henry Cabot Lodge — and his stories of the muddle that our policy was from those days on through to when he worked for the NSA all the way to Kissenger, when he finally quit in protest over the Cambodian bombing…well, it was astonishing, to say the very least. We should study this period of American history more often, if only to stop repeating the same damned mistakes.
raven @ 32
eisenhower probably should get some of the blame too.
like christy, i don’t see or expect perfection (bay of pigs anyone?), but i do expect leaders to learn from their mistakes and to try to bring out the best in all of us, including themselves.
the lesson i take from this is that i’ve failed too – i spent far too much of my life not paying attention to what is being done in my name. no more.
One of the reasons I am a Democrat is that for all my adult life, the Democrats have been for the common good, and the Republicans have been for selfishness. Have we ever in the past century had a government so full of people who would answer Kennedy’s challenge with “what? Of course, ask what your country can do for you!”
Could there by any more extreme expression of selfishness and short-sightedness than to block any action on global warming because “it will cost us too much” (without even asking what it will cost us not to do anything)?
These people have undermined community for too long by denigrating government, seeking to convince people that all of their taxes are wasted (ignore those roads and schools and medical research and…), that it’s every man for himself so they should not trust anyone they don’t know, and worse, they should fear them because they’re probably criminals and could be terrorists!
This is a great country not because we have the strongest army or because we have shiny toys or because God is on our side, but because we made it great together, seeking to advance knowledge, seeking to find solutions through intelligent discourse and debate, seeking to elevate the least amoung us, not declare their fate to be only what they deserve. To those who believe that our country has inherent greatness, and will remain so no matter how badly its principles and sense of community are betrayed, you are wrong. We remain so only as long as we uphold those principles, only so long as we work for the betterment of all, only so long as we continue to work to make it great.
That is what we are fighting for, and as long as the people refuse to be lost, the country cannot be lost. On Tuesday, we will show that we are not lost, that the light is still here and will begin to shine forth again.
In 70 Kissinger called Daniel Ellesberg into his office and asked him if there was anyone on the government that knew anything about the Vietnamese. That speak volumes about then and now.
Redd,
Thank you for the wonderful post.I was having a really bad morning but reading Kennedy’s words and your comments lifted my normally optimistic self up out of the dumpster.
I love this site.
thanks…you are my early morning coffee.
Imagine?
Imagine churches all over rural America with Pray the Vote posters all around from the Presidential Prayer Team.
How do churches post such things and maintain their tax-exempt status?
http://1boringoldman.com/index.php/2006/11/01/705/
White House: Syria And Iran Are Planning To Topple Legally Elected Government
The White House charged Wednesday that “mounting evidence” shows Syria and Iran are joining with the militant group Hezbollah in plans to topple the Lebanese government.
In an unusually strong statement, White House press secretary Tony Snow said any attempt to manufacture demonstrations or use violence or physical threats against Lebanese leaders would be a clear violation of Lebanon’s sovereignty and of three U.N. Security Council resolutions.
This is @ the top of the page of crooks and Liars!!!!
Here your Oct./ Nov. surprise. A 1-2 neo-con combination?? How interesting its those 2 countries. (Neocon wet dream).
Can anyone think of a greater insult to our military than their being used by our (ex-cheer) leader to make himself a significant figure in history? His infamous flightsuit reflects his flight from his draft-dodging reality into his ludicrous and destructive fantasy of courage.
What kind of man would hide behind the patronizing sneers of cheap hacks like Tony Snow, whose voice betrays the Puritanical whine true conservatives used to warn us about?
How can the Republicans, whose champion is this paragon of semi-literate inarticulation, a man supported by trigger-happy thugs and devious traitors to our Constitution, howl about an infelicitous moment in a leading Democrat’s discourse? Especially when that Democrat did take up arms for his nation, while Bush was fighting hangovers in south Georgia.
thanks for the inspiring words christy. How sad that we have to go back 40 some odd years for inspiration from our leaders. It is why progressive blogs like FDL have taken off so well. For me your words often fill the inspirational needs i miss from our current leaders.
Sometimes i think our media is largly to blame for the lack of true leaders in this country. JFK was not a perfect man nor husband for that matter. Todays media would have had a field day with his many extra marital affairs and imperfections. But how we all yearn to be inspired by such an “imperfect” man.
The media and pol. parties today feel the need to bring even the best leaders down to their most embarrinssing moments. Sometimes it is warrented but mostly it is not. This idea that our leaders need to be soooo perfect makes many ideal candidates not even interested in running.
selise @ 31
It’s not that hard, really. I organized the get-together of firepups, none of whom I’d ever met, in LA, a city I’d never been to, in about that amount of time. Post an email address here, ask people to email you, and then exchange phone numbers (and descriptions!) Pick a place and time to meet, or if you’re not familiar with New Haven, have someone who lives there do it. Once the details are settled, post them on several threads here for those who missed it the first time around.
It works, go for it!
peter @
16
Doubtful the latter. Remember that the Kennedys were Boston bootleggers, heavily immersed in strongly Irish immigrant circles. The Boston Brahmin accents came from private schools, Many of which were run by Catholics. In the `30s, that would have been the dominant accent in such places, so priests, too, would have carried along those accents.
What has changed since then is radio and television–that has had an effect on speech patterns, homogenizing them in notable ways, even in the northeast. The accents I hear there now are not so pronounced as they were in the `50s.
Cheers.
Peter @16 — that accent is the one everyone around Boston had when I was growing up. I was in the fifth grade in Massachusetts when Kennedy was shot. I didn’t have that accent because I had moved in from the left coast and my parents don’t have accents (something to do with their parents speaking foreign langusges . . . ) Even though I live almost 2,000 miles away, I can still tell what quadrant of the Boston area someone is from by the nuances in their accents. I have noticed that Ted K.’s accent has softened over the years – something that I wish the yokels in positions of power would learn to do with their southern accents.
Raven at 32, I’ve got to agree with you. Thinking ahead how about Bill Moyers for President in 08. Clinton is a hawk and we all know it.
Great post, Christy.
I was four when JFK died.
I remember watching the funeral on our Zenith B&W console TV with the rabbit ears. While the team of horses drew the carriage with the flag-draped coffin, I looked at my family’s sad and drawn faces, and even at that age I realized something terrible had happened and the world would never be the same.
We won’t ever be able to return to Camelot, but we can still fight to keep our nation out of the hands of the greedy, the hateful, and the dumb.
We can win this time.
Thank you Christy. That made my morning.
Although I was a high school conservative at the time (please forgive), JFK lifted us all up.
I was a Young Republican in college, which is what contrarian meant back then and back there.
Although I was a Goldwater fan when JFK was assassinated, the overwhelming sadness and tragedy of what our country lost in that moment drilled into me as it did into the Young Democrats on campus.
I didn’t change on the surface, however, and wrote campus newspaper editorials supporting Barry G in 1964. (Anyone remember AuH2O?) I was outraged at the negative daisy-picking, nuclear explosion ad that the Democrats ran against Barry.
By the time Martin Luther King, Jr., was assassinated, and Bobby Kennedy too, I was in law school, and during the summer evenings while working at a law firm, I was in the streets of Chicago during the 1968 Democratic Convention (out of curiosity). I stood nearby in Grant Park as Alan Ginsberg chanted “om-m-m-m-m” with protesters, and saw the Chicago police remove their badges before charging the crowd.
Later, I was near the Convention Center, riding in the McCarthy-flower-stickered VW Beetle driven by a girl I had met on the streets, as tear gas wafted through the air and people came running. Someone saw the flower sticker on the car and shouted, “Help us get outta here, man!” and two people piled into our back seat. As we sped away one of them said leaned forward and the hairs on the back of my neck prickled as he said . . . . “Hey, aren’t you [my name]?”
“From [he mentioned my alma mater]?”
Yeah, I said. I am.
“Well, what are YOU doing HERE?”
Good question.
What I was doing was changing, although I did not realize it at the time.
It probably started with “Ask not what your country can do for you,” back in 1961.
Something probably got under my skin with “I have a dream,” but did not rise to the surface immediately.
Wandering around Resurrection City on the Mall might have played a role in my changing.
Seeing the “police riot” in Chicago (as the Kerner Commission later labeled it) undoubtedly sowed seeds of doubt.
And then there was sitting in law school classes and realizing, through intense Socratic questioning, that there are more questions than the answers that an ideology gives, and there are two or four sides to an issue, not just one.
Some time in there I became a liberal and a Democrat in my heart. I am sure that I never told my father when I switched my political party registration from Republican.
But I later learned that even he had voted for Bill Clinton in 1992, unable to stomach what the Republican Party had become.
There is hope for all of us, including many of those who still think they are Republicans.
Let’s help them make a transition too, help them take their party back from the thugs and theocrats by defeating it soundly in this election.
Later they, and their children, will thank us.
G O T V
My humble suggestion for what Pelosi and/or Reid should say next Wednesday if the predicted tsunami occurs:
We will not be buying new drapes and carpets for any offices on Capitol Hill, because it is not a fiscally sound idea at a time when we can not afford it.
Thank you, and God Bless America.”
The sound of Wingnut Heads exploding would be a thing of beauty.
Good polling news for Ned from pollster.com
Latest Q Poll Oct 30 (an outlier in Joe’s favor) shows him only leading by 12 now, not 17 as it did on 10/19.
Republican Rasmussen poll, Oct 28, only shows Joe up 8 points.
Better yet, both have Joe below 50%. Anytime an incumbent is below 50%, it means he is vulnerable.
God, you’re a baby….or else I’m ancient!
I was in high school when Kennedy was murdered.
Yikes!
The hardest thing for me to forgive when it comes to today’s conservatives is the deep and ugly divisions they seized on and exploited. America is not perfect,but the idea of this whole country is that we could and would learn and grow,changing for the better,progressing with wisdom.
We will probably always have racism,sexism,and those who wish to control and oppress,but our job as citizens is to marginalize,scorn and otherwise relagate those hateful things into a corner,lest they infect the Nation. As my Granny used to say, You can be an asshole on your own time,by yourself,don’t dump it on me or anyone else.
Today’s conservatives have embraced and fed upon every flaw we have as a country and made those flaws some kind of truly fucked up “gold standard”to aspire to.
Corruption,incompetence,hatefulness,lying,cheating,stealing,even assault and murder are now something that is acceptable.Especially if it concerns big bidness or politics,it’s all good as long as you’re on the “right”(nudge,wink)side of “the debate”.
To me,this is the heart of the matter,and it’s a long term damage they’ve done to the heart and soul of the best of what America can be.
Thanks for that. Even though I am quite old enough to remember Kennedy’s election, I had never read the entire lead-in to the “Ask not what your country can do for you…” quote.
I sent this out to some of my family and friends who refuse to budge from the Republican side (and to others who are ardent liberals– why shouldn’t they enjoy it, too?)The contrast between Kennedy’s powerful vision, powerfully expressed, and our current pathetic excuse for a president is so strong that hardly anything else really needs to be said.
Prof @ 51
Nothing like a cup of hot coffee and double inspiration. Thank you Christy and Prof
Telling our “where we were when Kennedy was shot” stories gives lie to the notion that it is only 20-somethings on the Internets and The Google. (I will be playing KO’s special comment from last night for my time-challenged spouse in a bit so that he can be uplifted.) us old folks know our TOOBZ!
According to Dante’s Inferno, there is a special place in hell for wishy-washy people, i.e, fence sitters. It’s called purgatory. I don’t know which of the other 12 rings I will end up, but I am making sure it won’t be purgatory. I used to think just voting the right cause was enough to avoid purgatory, but I have decided that is also a wishy-washy stance. What will you tell your kids and grandkids about what you did in a time of national crisis? Did you just vote, or get out the vote? I thought voting was a private matter. Not anymore.
And what about those wishy-washy undecided or wavering voters. Ask them this question. Do you want your congressional representative to be in minority, or the majority party in the house? Time to hedge your votes.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 36
But just for the sake of clarification: JFK sent “advisers” (CIA on the ground types) but it was Johnson who lied and got the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution through Congress, and started pouring the troops into ‘Nam in 1965.
Kennedy, coffee, and inspirational speeches! Nice wakeup call, Redd!
Tuesday’s only few days away, but this isn’t a sprint – it’s a marathon. Don’t burn out today, trying to run all the way to Tuesday evening.
It. Will. Not. Work.
Good for you, Christy, for digging out some JFK for us to inspire us down the stretch.
John Casper @ 53
Except in a three way race.
OT – Jesus saves? Maybe not so much:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c…..gun01.html
The Kool-Ade must be really strong when you blame a murder on Jesus.
Anybody comes across any more clips using the 04′ Bush joking about WMD, let me know. {post at the site} So far I’ve found two, and they’ll make your blood turn cold : http://thank-you-keith-olbermann.blogspot.com/
Link?
Here’s some fun news from Arizona, courtesy of the SF Chronicle: In Arizona, GOP finds the issue of immigration no help at polls
The nightmare scenario for Karl Rove — Republicans go to the polls in large numbers!
I have met many card-carrying upper-case Republicans and they are mad. Mad at the lower-case republicans, for abandoning true Republican values — like the bill of rights, habeus corpus and fiscal restraint. Not only are they voting — and in some cases actively supporting — Democrats, but they are bringing other like minded Republicans with them. The Republicans could actually be Fifth Columnists in this years election. Here’s to hoping Republicans vote.
Prof
I am the son of a DuPage County (suburban Chicago) republican and was a sophomore in high school that day. Because I didn’t “study and try to be smart” I ended up in the Army in 1966. I was sent to Korea because I was only 17 and you had to be 18 to go to Vietnam. In the summer of 68, as my unit at Ft Lewis was preparing to go to Vietnam, I watched the convention in the barracks and thought “whose side am I on in this fight”? I became more and more disillusioned with both he war and this country as my tour wore on. When I came home I pledged to do what I could to stop the war and joined the VVAW. The spirit of those times has never left me but I have to say that I am much more cynical now than I was then. After the last election I swore I would not get caught up in hoping that things could really change but “here I go again”. I really do enjoy the folks on FDL and I probably need to wait 15 minutes or so before I post things, but hey, I can’t help it!
I wish I could be more hopeful but democrats have enough mistakes under their belt too. At least there are a handful presently that are thinking more progressive and it appears the only way to get control away from the replublicans.
If it’s a “national crisis,” why no draft?
OldCoastie 26
love it!
Last night, I punched the daylights outta the remote – resolutely leaving any channel that was spewing about Kerry.
Ended up on Animal Planet watching Ecuadorian caimens & other critters, but it was refreshing…
Yesterday, I kept trying to wear my pol. buttons, but had to keep giving them away to others who wanted to do same. Gotta go back for more today, I spec….. ;->
Saw somewhere today that repugs keep trying to bring up kerrykerrykerry, and all people are hearing is quagmirequagmirequagmire…
Keep up the spirit & good work, dawgs!
Let’s bring it home!
Inspirational post Christy. Thank you.
Habeas corpus
I was raised in Massachusetts in the 60’s. Every Irish Catholic family had pictures of Jesus and Mary and JFK hanging in their homes. It was a very religious phenomenon.
But serving the public is a spiritual endeavor. It redeems us all to make the world better.
When Pierre Trudeau died, Castro and Carter were honorary pall bearers, bringing the world together. But the real surprises were the 7 year old daughter and the deep connection to the RC Church.
There were very progrssive Catholics leading the world in those days. Remember the quest of Eugene McCarthy?
Kerry imagined himself such a man. It’s too bad he wasn’t.
John Casper @ 65
No link, just Math. Joe can still win with under 50% even if Schlesinger stays in single digits.
If Joe is under 50% when removing Schlesinger from the polling data, then he is vulnerable.
Remember, both Arnold and Clinton both won with less than 50% of the vote.
raven @
32
If it were only that simple. The problem started at Yalta and Potsdam. All concerned in those discussions agreed that control of colonies existing before the start of hostilities would be returned to the colonial countries. That included Vietnam to France. (As an aside, there was an OSS agent in Hanoi’s Central Square on Aug. 13, 1945, when Ho Chi Minh read the Vietnamese declaration of independence. It was almost word for word our own. The problem could have been solved then, but the US had no interest in Vietnam. The report was filed and forgotten. There were only three people on the entire Southeast Asia desk in the State Dept. at the time, and none spoke Vietnamese.)
But, Truman secretly funded the French war in Vietnam, and that funding continued into the Eisenhower administration. After the French defeat and withdrawal after Dien Bien Phu, the UN took over to manage free elections to unify the country. Eisenhower sent in the CIA to disrupt the elections (scheduled for 1956, and never held) and to destabilize both north and south. Out of their involvement there came the Phoenix program and the mess in Laos.
Kennedy inherited that, and expanded on it, in part because Diem was Catholic and he felt he had some common ground there (and, almost by definition, was anti-Communist), but Diem was engaging in some very totalitarian behavior, largely through the efforts of his brother and Madame Nhu, and it was probably only evident after Diem’s assassination that both Henry Cabot Lodge and the CIA were aware that it was coming and had probably signed off on a military coup as the only means of retaining some US control. Diem’s assassination genuinely shocked Kennedy, so I have to believe he was unaware it was coming.
But, as the Pentagon Papers made more than obvious, the Vietnam debacle was owned singularly by no one president and collectively by all. It began in Truman’s administration, and went on and on and on, mistake after mistake. As for Kennedy’s role, yes, he increased troops there, and there were some in his administration who simply looked the other way when Diem’s assassination further destabilized the country. There are some recently released papers suggesting that Kennedy was having some serious misgivings about Vietnam in 1963, after Diem’s death. But, we’ll never know if he intended to act on them.
Imagine a president who could walk up to where he was to give a speech with nothing but a snow fence and a few rather bored looking secret service men separating him from the general public. No tickets, clearance, free speech zones or any other barrier to anyone who felt like showing up.
That was when he came to dedicate the Frost Library – still have the instamatic snaps.
John Casper @ 73
Thanks, the FDL spell checker offers no reasonable alternatives.
Vietnam vets are the men I know and sadly I married one, I feel that they are all changed persons. I think the women who have had to deal with the aftermath have not been appreciated. It’s been hard even 30 plus years later.
I do have a tendency to oversimplify!
montag @ 76
I was thinking about this this morning. I have been trying to get my two kids, in their 20s, interested in voting. They say they are ready for the revolution, but voting is a waste of time. Maybe this election will show them we can make a difference by voting more progressives in that can start making a change. I have to remember that they can’t remember any government that has been for the public good over corporate profits.
Thanks to FDL and Daily Kos for giving hope that we can get some real Democrats elected to move the party away from Republican light.
snoey @ 77
Imagine a president who could give that speech without teleprompters, and probably without notes – and sound not just coherent but inspiring.
JF – I fired out a letter to the editor last night re: Sinton/Price. I used your ironic assessment of their reasoning as the foundation.
Didn’t think you’d mind. I’ll let you know if they use it.
Thanks.
Alison @74 – I want to think that Kerry is such a man, it is just that times changed, and that none of those guys would have made it in the uncivil world of today’s post-Newt politics. I think that part of the problem with the press repeating what comes out of Rethugs’ mouths is that they naively expect that the R’s are speaking some sort of truth. Only KO knows what the other guys in MSM can’t believe – that these guys (like Johnson did)flat out lie, knowing that MSM will lap it up.
Unfortunatley it’s often hard for us to live with ourselevs and I agree with you. Are you familiar with Patience Press?
NaNOO @ 79
I’m too young to remember many of the greats in many areas – JFK, MLK, Hendrix, Allman. But you can never be too young to appreciate true greatness. There is nobody on the scene today that can measure up the any of them.
Thank you, Christy. I’d like to offer this, which I came across a while back: Robert Kennedy, “What Do We Stand For? The Liberation of the Human Spirit”, at the Commonwealth Club of California, Jan 4, 1968.
The audio is in three parts. An brief introduction by someone, RFK’s speech, and then the following Q&A.
Stop it JF – you are turning us into the “Greatest Generation II”. Seriously, every generation has their greats. They have to fight through their parents and grandparents’ myths to find them.
raven at 85, no I hadn’t heard of Patience Press, but i will check it out, thanks
OldCoastie @
23
Old Coastie, have a cup of my special “Wake the F*ck UP” brew :)
What a great thing to hear on my birthday…
G’morning Christy…
In communication with my DFA chapter members I talk about “Take 5 to Vote”. I have lined up 5 people besides myself and made sure they have voted (early mail in ballot) and ask that they do the same.
So…. Take 5 to Vote…..
Happy Birthday Katymine!!!
Patience Mason is the wife of Bob Mason who wrote “Chickenhawk” (it’s about Vietnam not Republicans)> She is a therapist and has worked in the area of PTSD for many years. And thank you.
NaNOO @ 89
Christy: I was in seventh grade when Kennedy gave the inauguration speech you reference, and I still remember our civics teacher (anybody remember civics teachers?) wheeling in the old black-and-white TV for us to watch it. I felt hope that day, even for a world we knew could be blown to smithereens at any moment.
A beautiful, eloquent post. I think JFK would be proud.
montag @ 76–
A great synopsis of history.
wow.
happy birthday katymine!
T- @ 83
Hey T- that’s great. I did the same this morning. No time yesterday.
You want to know why we are all gathered here together? Listen to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rxm17Soz3c
katymine @ 91
Happy Birthday, katymine!
Ned coming up on MSNBC
Ned and his bus coming up on MSNBC!!
I wonder if we’ll see T-Rex?!
raven @ 68
Hey, raven, I studied and then went to Korea two years after you, in 1970. Camp Red Cloud in Uijongbu and Camp Humphreys in Anjong-Ni (home of the original 4077th M.A.S.H.).
My father served in the real Korean War, as a grasshopper pilot (unarmed forward observer in a light plane over North Korea).
Would a mod please change the front page of the late-night post to reflect that it’s Maxwell/Mosher performing in New Haven, not the Squirrel Nut Zippers?
Most appreciated.
Happy Birthday, Katymine!
Ned Lamont on MSNBC & looking great!
Gnome de Plume @ 58
Of course there aren’t only 20-somethings.
After all, it was one of us “old folks” (who the hell are you calling “old”?!! @#$$%%) who invented the internets, remember?
As for myself, it all started with learning Fortran programming in high school in 1961, and then Fido and UUCP e-mail starting in 1982 or 1983, long before the internets.
Thanks for the B’day greetings….
Latest Poll in AZ has Mitchell over JD Hayworth(R) 2%…. YEAAAAA the whole nation just might send JD a message !!!!!!!!!!
AZ-08 (D) is up in double digits
AZ-01 & AZ-05 are toss ups
Senate – Kyl & Pederson is a toss up
Big dog will be here this afternoon to campaign for them…. (yes I know, why he can’t take a 45 minute train ride vs the 5 hr flight…)
Dammit, Christy — you and JFK made me cry.
I’m old enough to barely remember JFK – his assasintion is one of my earliest memories. I clearly remember Robert Kennedy, and HIS assasination. (And that of Martin Luther King Jr.)
I thought my boomer generation had a dream, of all those things JFK spoke of. We had a feeling of inevitability, as if the dream JFK articulated could not fail.
The way things are today feels much the same as when we were in the depths of Vietnam and the fight for free speech, when Robert Kennedy said, “Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change.”
What happened to that dream? I’m angry because that dream was taken away from me, and I want it back.
Can you see a 60 foot creature anywhere near the bus? Is TRex travelling along side of the bus? What about Ned TFK?
TommyYum at 102 — I fixed it — but I think that TRex got that from the Lamont campaign. You might want to check with them when you get to CT.
Gnome de Plume @ 108
I saw a huuuuuuge shadow….
Prof! Fortran! OMG! I flunked Fortran in college.
newspaperbrat @ 104
Thanks for the heads-up on that. Good appearance!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 109
Thanks, Christy. We’ve contacted the Lamont campaign.
Anya ha sayo(sp). Camp Hartell, 1/79th Arty right at the base of Charlie Block just south of Munsani. You familiar with this website TOD
My old man was a enlisted Destroyer sailor in WWII, went to the University of Illinois, graduated and went back in with a commission and served in Korea as well.
Small frickin world.
markann at hotmail dot com
Prof @ 101
Gnome de Plume @ 111
Hollerith Punch Cards!
(There were hanging chads LONG before Florida 2000!!!)
Another awesome post, Christy. Wow.
“…and the times they are a changin’”
From Wapo front page today:
Scandals alone couild cost the Republicans their House majority
Remember when Jane had to teach the WaPo public editor a lesson about sloppy reporting re “they all do it” ?
And this: Democrats have shot at the Senate: Reuter’s Poll
Prof @ 105
Fortran!!! Bane of my existence. Still using it today.
Tommy, if you’re around, you have mail from me.
Got it and responded, Mommybrain.
sofistic @
97
Thanks for that, Sofistic. Very moving.
sofistic @ 97
Thanks for sharing that. Pure honesty from a voice that I love.
Made me cry.
Thank you for this post, Christy!
Gnome de Plume @ 111
I still have memories of students standing in line with boxes of punch cards waiting for time on the card reader to the IBM 360 in the engineering school to run their programs. Still remember one guy with two-foot tall stack of cards under one arm proudly displaying his printout–in “x”s and “o”s–of his favorite Playboy centerfold….
Pimping my own #97 upthread, but you have to listen to Kris Kristofferson’s “In the News.” It will make you cry and make you mad, but it surely will clarify.
Thank you, Christy; what a beautiful call to civic duty. This is what real patriotism looks like.
Kris does a nice intro on this 8th of November
JF @ 117
FORTRAN! Aaakk. I had to write my own statistical routines for analysis of economic trends. Before the days of stat packs like SPSS or SAS. Punch cards on a Cyber 73. Still get goose bumps thinking of it.
Yes, I like to think my problems with fortran were because of those hanging chads, not because I was an architecture student among all those engineering students. Calculus and Physics were easy. That X-0 stuff I couldn’t get. Thank god for Macs. (Even though I did eventually migrate to PC’s)
Schlesinger is on WNYC radio right now. He his hitting the right notes for traditional republicans.
Peterr @ 115
How about plug boards?
montag @ 76
Which brings up the other ultimate cause of Vietnam–McCarthyism. The Red Scare of the early 50’s was in large part due to the “loss” of China to the Communists. Many good people in the State Department who were very knowledgeable about Asia lost their jobs because of the scare. And therefore weren’t there to advise Eisenhower not to get involved in Vietnam on the French side. Which anybody who knew anything about Asia at the time would have advised.
It just goes to show you that the politics of fear can be far more damaging than anyone realizes.
Sofistic ~ thank you for the Kristofferson link; I was fortunate a few months ago to see him live here in Redding ~ I sat 20 feet from him in the front row. It was just Kris, his guitar and harmonica for a little over an hour…moments of honesty, passion, creative inspiration through words and music from the rough yet so committed voice of a man who speaks for not only my generation, but through his universal truth and eloquently written words – that of my children as well.
I was in fourth grade when Kennedy died; I have vivid memories of my parents sitting for days in front of our television in tears. Listening to Kris sing that song; remembering the passion and REAL love for a leader and this country that I remember feeling as a mere child because of the intense belief my parents had in both ~ makes me despair for what we have today.
FDL and the people who write here….give me hope.
Since this one is a long-term keeper –
…Where asking for
soemsome measure of accountability . . .John Kerry,
Get out of that god dam mansion and take that fucker down. If you want to be president quit apologizing for things you didn’t do, and quit voting for things you don’t believe in.
Be sucinct and do it. What the fuck is there to loose.
Little late doncha think?
CEO @ 133
Horsewoman @ 131
Redding? I live in Eureka, just over the Trinity alps from you.
Yes. I can feel the passion coming back after lo these many years. And you know what? This is a long term trend. As a retired sociologist who watches long term trends, I can assure you of that.
Redshift @
45
ok here goes!
new haven rally starts at 7pm – sounds like we should try to be there early if there are going to be as many people as tommy yum thinks!
then to Sullivan’s for a beer or late dinner (ctbob’s location suggestion – it’s close and you may remember it from the pre-primary meetups).
email me at speakeasy dot net if you want to exchange cell phone numbers.
go ned!
raven @ 134
while there’s breath there’s hope.
Sorry, Christy: I’m not buying it. The Democrats have shown no signs that they’ll restore our Constitution or actually end the war, much less punish the war criminals. I’ll vote, but overall, I couldn’t be more depressed.
Your picture of Kennedy is illuminating, however, because it makes my point. Nobody like that around these days at the national level, not a single one.
Prof at 105
One of my first jobs out of college was for a company called Tectonics, or something like that. They sent what they called electronic mail for huge companies like Seimens who had outlets all over the world, letting them know about price changes, etc. It was bought by Western Union about a month after I started and they went whole hog.
At one time, they made us wear buttons (in public!) that said “I FUP at WUEMI” hoping people would ask us what the hell it meant. (FUP= file update). No one did. Well, except for the expected lewd remarks.
You must be a Cub fan!
selise @ 137
GrandmaJ-
Next Tuesday is not the end, but only the opening paragraph of the rest of our struggle.
So true.
raven @ 114
On your horse, amigo!
Thanks for that! Haven’t heard Arirang in years.
I am impressed by that website, as it verifies that there were others also who truly appreciated Korea and Koreans, rather than treating them like dirt (as so many did).
I was a second looie and was given the task of teaching “Cold War Orientation” (name later changed to “Korean/American Mutual Understanding”) to enlisted men. Coming fresh off of law school, I decided to do it in a participatory manner, asking the troops what name they used for Koreans.
Gooks. Slopes. Slants.
Then I asked them why?
Well, it’s just a word, they replied. An identity. Shorthand. Doesn’t hurt anybody.
A black soldier stood up in the back of the room. “You don’t know what the #$$%^@ you’re talking about,” he said to the rest of the soldiers, and stormed out of the room, the door banging loudly and in the room, you could hear a pin drop.
I was lucky. My commanding officer believed in the “recreational use of military vehicles on weekends” for his officers. I drove 6,000 miles on unpaved roads on weekends, in a country the size of Indiana, staying in Korean inns (yogwan), taking pictures, absorbing a culture not my own.
A year in the US Army in South Korea was the best year of my life (up to that point).
Christy, that was a great post.
I was one of the people who lined the route to Arlington National Cemetery during JFK’s funeral procession. I was 7 years old.
There were two things that I remember distinctly.
The first was the wagon that carried the coffin was followed by a horse that had no rider, but instead had a pair of boots stuck backwards in the stirrups.
The second was the soldier and his rifle. I was there with my family and another military family. I was the oldest of 4 kids, and there were 5 kids ages 8 and under in the other family. As might be expected on a day-long trip into DC with so many young kids, we had a brown paper grocery bag filled with diapers, bottles, a box of Vanilla Wafers, etc. The soldier knocked over the bag with the barrel end of his rifle, and then used the rifle to pull each item out of the bag.
By that time I had already lived through one change in government in a foreign country that involved tanks in the streets. The feeling in the air during the funeral was very similar. Everyone seemed to be on high alert, with a lot of fear about what might happen next.
New polls posted this morning from Rueters Zogby.
Key senate races:
Webb up one
Corker up ten
Tester up one
McCaskill up one
Lieberman up 12
Looks as if Tennessee is goin gooper- dems will need both Va and Mo- and they are leading there- by a little.
One would guess that Ned’s had it if this poll is even close.
Sofistic…’tis a small world. Another poster here that I’ve kept in contact with lives in Igo; the ability to connect with the kind of “energy” on this site keeps me sane. I appreciate your opinion that the passion is coming back; I believe it is the only thing that will ultimately save this country – if we haven’t gone past the brink already.
I’m so angry at all this; and I hate that emotion. But I find myself more and more frustrated by the sheer apparent stupidity of some people in this country – and I hate to use that word, but not sure what other one to use! How can they NOT SEE what’s going on?! How we’re being manipulated and lied to; how the cumulative affects of that over the years of this toxic administration is destroying this country…..sorry; I’ll go get more coffee and calm down…I’m venting. My horses would turn tail and leave if I started letting off on them like that……”think lovely thoughts; think lovely thoughts” :)
shoot – my sullivan’s link didn’t take…
Sullivan’s on Chapel between York and Park
1166 Chapel St., New Haven
(203) 777-4367
Just saw this commercial on CNN from VoteVets.org featuring Wes Clark.
“IRAQ VETERANS TAKE ON “THESE ARE THE STAKES” OSAMA BIN LADEN AD IN NEW AD OF THEIR OWN
Blunt new ad says the world is more dangerous… because of Iraq”
Because of Iraq
THFARR at 138….sadly agree; wish I had more faith in the democrats – with few exceptions, like Lamont…I’m afraid I don’t. Adds to my pessimism, but I keep telling myself anything has to be ~ better than this.
BuggyQ @ 130
Indeed. How many people at the time ascribed the liberation movement of Ho to the influence of Mao’s ascension in China, not realizing that China and Vietnam were natural antagonists and had been fighting border wars for a thousand years? How many knew that Ho had become a communist in England, before he left for France in 1922, and Mao had nothing to do with that? How many knew that 80% of the population of Vietnam supported unification under Ho’s government, in 1955? How many in this country knew that Vietnam was the only country in the `30s in Southeast Asia that produced enough rice to feed its population and export, too, and yet, the principal cause of death there at the time was starvation, precisely because of French export policy.
Those things are absent from analysis when fear and blind obedience to ideology dominate. We, as a society, keep having to relearn the lessons of the politics of fear. The manipulations by the Bush White House over terrorism are no different than those over communism in 1946….
The Tennessee poll is definately an outlier- but other polls show a small but consistent lead for the gooper.
The Conn result is consistent with the average of the last five polls.
I’m starting to feel a little better about the elections now christy
there are going to be hot lines to report long lines, broken machines, irregularities, the hotlines are going directly to the lauyers that might be able to do something abuot those irregularities
I don’t have those hotline numbers, I’m at work and can’t do the research to post them, I hope someone else does
I am still holding my breath, the administration is going to do whatever it takes to prevent oversight because they are in tons of trouble otherwise
we still have to fear the electronic voting, we have to make sure everyone watches the hbo special and we need to get people to start reading the brad blog
lot’s of work to do untill the election, i am doing whatever I can.
of all the things we have ever done for our country, for the majority of us, these elections are probably the most important thing of our generation
The most naive thing that JFK ever said:
“A rising tide lifts all boats.”
The premise for “trikle down”.
Thanks Christy and Prof at 51 for the memories. I was with you in Chicago Prof and it was a defining moment in my life and pointed me in an entirely new direction.This is the banner at the top of my blog.
If by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people – their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties – someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad; if that is what they mean by a “Liberal,” then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.” – John F. Kennedy
twolf1 @ 147
it’s a good ad and here’s a good article by General Clark at HuffPo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..33048.html
P.S. and fyi– today Wes Clark, Michael J. Fox and Obama are campaigning with Jim Webb.
Great story, Prof at 51.
Webb and Obama in Richmond, Webb and Clark and Fox in northern Virginia.
I’m in for Robert Rodriquez, after reading late nite.
KEEP WORKING! Only 5 more days!!
All of you in Virginia and Mo.- you can keep Clustefuck from appointing more obnoxious supreme court justices. It’s really coming down to those two states- and we need em both.
JHFarr — every time you show up, you say something that is down at the mouth about Dems.
You bemoan the lack of a single charismatic leader among our ranks today, for example.
What the hell are you doing about it?
Really.
Do you praise and encourage those who might yet become a singular example, or do you unleash your negativity on them?
Kennedy was not a charismatic leader without a welcoming, open community that was there for him, greeting him with open minds and hearts.
Look at what Christy’s written this morning, for crying out loud; it calls upon the past and the present, calls us ALL to be part of something larger, calls us ALL to be servant-leaders. Charismatic? Works for me, but my mind is open to seeing the charismatic call whenever, where ever it comes to us.
To be something greater is more than pissing and moaning and whining about what isn’t. To be something greater requires dedication, perseverance, integrity, and constant fidelity to the larger goals upon the horizon, though they may be far from reach. We have been temporarily derailed, but we are not defeated. We have been obstructed, but we are not undone.
Be part of that larger purpose and greater end, or step aside.
angie @ 154
Thanks for the link. I have always liked Clark.
According to the VoteVets site, the ad will also be running on Fox. I put it on youtube here:
Because of Iraq
I resist swelling with emotion over a politician, any politician. Ideals are a dangerous thing, and idealists lose to pragmatists
I will not embrace a politician until they have to work for us, by law.
until they are subject to criminal prosecution as a sitting member of the government, for any violation.
anything less gets us what we have now. I will never get gooey about one of these subhuman machines that spend millions for a job that can’t pay it back. It dictates inherent corruption.
we have a long, long way to go before we EVER look back for heroes. and dead heroes are a part of history. live heroes make history
Glad you liked it, Ken does a great job. I’ve found old buddies that I hadn’t heard from in years. My tour was a little different. I was a terrible trooper (1%er) and stayed in trouble. We sat in a weird place, south of the DMZ but in full view of the Imjin. When they came across in the Blue House Raid we were out chasing them in that bitter cold for a couple of weeks. I often wish I had been more mature so that I could have had a more constructive experience. The racism really rings true. My graduate work was prompted by both the educational and social inequalities I saw in the Army. That’s is one reason I jumped ugly when I read Kerry’s comments. I don’t give a shit what he meant but for those of us that saw people fucked over because of their lack of education his comments not only stung but they made no sense in today’s context. I looked at the GED and the decision to require a high school diploma, and not a GED, to get in the military was a simple way to increase the retention of troops. Because of this requirement the troops are better educated than ever. That doesn’t mean that many are taken advantage of becuase of their ecomonic standing but damn, say that if that’s what you mean.
aki — Trickle down is dependent upon the very few doing well under laissez-faire. A.K.A., “voo-doo economics”.
Definitely NOT to be confused with the allegorical rising tide.
MSNBC Jansing and reporter critiquing Rep vs. Dem GOTV scripts. Rep script tight, concise.
Dems blathering…6 talking points, nuance.
It’s a simple matter of economics on this one. If it takes Repubs one minute to make their points, and Dems two or three or longer, that’s all the more phone contacts the Reps will make.
Tighten up yer scripts, guys! No small talk, no schmoozing. Get Out Our Vote…efficiently!
I just saw a u tube @ crawfordlist.com of the dinner where Bush did his looking for lost wmds skit, Guess who is in the audience laughing at his JOKE? Joe Lieberman.
Rayne…not as regular obviously as you are here; certainly not in a position to comment on JHFarr’s overall posting on this site. He struck my “down” mood this morning; probably a bad thing to give into. But Christy’s admittedly wonderful post this a.m. does also serve to highlight the fact that we’ve strayed far from the path…totally agree that optimism and dedication to better is the way to change ~ but sometimes you have to reach and truly acknowledge hitting bottom, before that can be done.
I think Mike Allen at Time Magazine should take the banner of most sycophantic Rove puppet.
He’s predicting an upset in Michigan with (D) Stabenow losing because of the ‘anti-incumbent tide’.
Jaysus, Mike, could you take Rove’s nuts off your chin for a five minute breather?
-GSD
Meanwhile Larry Sabato is predicting a rout of the Republicans.
karma:
Dru sent me an article about the passing of William Styron this morning. (R.I.P)
in the wapo article was this snippet:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..ailarticle
that is a great story Prof.
Kennedy was tryin to educate the nation regarding Keynsian economics. The supply side bullshit hadn’t been invented yet.
The fact is that when a nation is not fully employing it’s resources, deficit spending will stimulate the economy and create more jobs and prosperity.
As the nation approaches full employment, further deficit spending will lead to inflation and high interest rates.
Sound economic policy is a matter of doin the right thing at the right time.
Kennedy favored lowering income tax rates- the marginal rate was over 90% at the time. They damn well NEEDED lowering.
Diane Benson’s TV Ads – which egregious’s ActBlue contributors helped get onto the air all around Alaska since late Tuesday – are up at a link from her campaign page to YouTube:
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We need more help to keep them on the air through the weekend:
http://www.actblue.com/page/egregious
Remember – these TV spots were made for free by a professional in Anchorage, as were here straightforward radio spots.
Thanks, everyone, for helping Diane Benson!
Andrea Mitchell now on shilling the Republican infomercial crap about Kerry.
Why doesn’t this twit senator [Reid? RI?] change the subject to Boner’s disgraceful comments about the military/generals?
raven @ 161
I don’t think there’s any question that standards drop when there’s a war on–even in Vietnam, with a draft, that happened. I remember one guy, from some backwoods hollow in Tennessee, in basic who never seemed to spell his name on forms the same way twice.
One of the things I did was review records for people getting out of the service, and I saw a lot of AFQTs of 11, 12, 13. Even a few 2s and 3s among people from Samoa and Guam who had been taken in as pathfinders. It was illegal as hell, but it happened, anyway.
When the machine needs recruits, it gets them, one way or another.
Rayne @ 162
My point is that although the GDP, corporate profits and productivity have been rising over the long term, our real median income has been flat for over thirty years. This includes economic policies and administation from both parties.
Confirming my anecdotal evidence about gas prices”I overheard two Shell employees discussing prices last Friday and the manager said “looks like they are going back up to around three dollars.”
Rawstory has a an industry insider saying the prices are going back up.
The October Surprise is a November Price Rise.
-GSD
Horsewoman — the bottom was 2004. Once the reelection of Bush was done, we could only go up; that man cannot and will not hold office again, thank goodness.
The rest is up to us, and perception is everything. If we perceive ourselves as powerless victims, we will be treated as such. But if we perceive ourselves as confident, competent, with an endless capacity to change things for the better, we are already on our way to greater things. Think upon progressive leaders we’ve admired in the past, as well as those in our midst; what do they project? Do they look like victims?
Hell no, and neither am I. I refuse to let my kids see me as a victim, either; they need to see someone who will fight back against injustice and inequity because that is the very nature of creating a culture of people who are just and equitable. We must be the change we want to see, and we must be that change for the people who cannot yet be that themselves.
Ask yourself what any person outside this country or within, particularly a child, might see in you. Do they see a fighter for truth and justice?
ET,
What’s the latest on the AK Guv’s race between (D) Knowles and (R) Palin?
-GSD
Too bad LBJ got involved in Vietnam. He did some great things and I really appreciate how he tried to carry on the idea of Kennedy’s “Great Society.”
GSD
If you are talking about a station manager- he or she doesn’t have the faintest fuckin idea what’s gonna happen to prices. He or she changes prices daily based on a corporate survey of the micro market. If the competitor goes up a nickel- so will he.
I’ll bet those guys from Samoa and Guam were great Pathfinders test scores or not!
montag @ 171
I remember John F. Kennedy’s speeches. He was such a brilliant, inspiring speaker—the total opposite of our current Dubya.
OT, but this Daily kos Post by Bob Johnson (a person with 25 years of advertising/marketing experience) had an idea for a last minute campaign ad: Kick `em While They’re Down with this Final, Simple Ad
Here’s part of the ad text:
new thread
GSD @ 173
We’re under $2 a gallon here in Houston. I wish I could just buy $1000 worth of gas at that price right now and fill up my tank for “free” for the next two years. I’m planning on filling up either Monday night or first thing Tuesday morning, just to get the last of the good deal.
Ed*ard Teller @ 169
Those were great– just sent them off for distribution in AK!
Her voice is rather mellifluous.
Clay @ 175
Johnson’s great problem was that he took it personally. He’s quoted as saying that, “I’m not going to be the first President of the United States to lose a war.”
Another less-mentioned incident tells how personally. At one point, when the war was not going well, Johnson was surrounded by reporters, and one asked, “what, after all, are we fighting for?” Johnson unzipped his pants and pulled out his dick and said, “this is what we’re fighting for.”
raven @ 177
Well, they came back from a job where few did. But, of course, in that job, I wouldn’t be seeing the ones who didn’t.
raven @
18
John Kennedy paid the ultimate price for his participation in politics and his attempt to ensure liberty for more people than had ever experienced it before. It’s been said he had a plan to pull us out of Vietnam, but was killed before he could execute that plan. Apparently he had realized the Vietnamese were not our enemies and he wasn’t going to kill them needlessly. He planned to let them and our soldiers live. He believed in Liberty, not just ‘the right words’.
Our current president knows only killing and destruction. He doesn’t understand the Rule of Law, Compassion or Liberty.
Thank you for putting this out there Christy. It almost makes me cry wishing we could have those in power saying that now -
But then, I’ll 2nd the motion to nominate A. Lamott!
Horsewoman @ 165
Our country has indeed been dragged into the mud by our leaders, but remember, neither Democrats nor Republicans were angels in Kennedy’s day either. We take inspiration from his speeches because they stood out, not because everyone back then was like that, so don’t be disheartened that they’re not all giants now.
I’m quite surprised to hear the Montana race has gotten close.
Can someone tell me what’s going on there? Is it a flood of negative ads or some other issue?
MarkH at 188 — I think the latest Zogby numbers are an outlier, based on every other poll I have seen on that race. But I can’t say for certain. Am trying to track down more particulars and will post if I find something on it.
Redshift @
187
Well, back then [JFK’s assasination], I was a first year medical student. It was a lot like now. Rampant racism [White Citizen’s Council], the beginnings of the worst war to date [Viet Nam], international shame [the Bay of Pigs], the rise of modern Conservativism [Barry Goldwater, Ayn Rand, John Birch Society], the specter of global tyrany [Communism], and the threat of chaos [thermonuclear war].
What was different, was that we believed that Kennedy meant what he was saying, Eisenhower too. I still believe they meant what they were saying. There was plenty of divisiveness, but not the arrogant, contemptuousness of the modern political rhetoric. There were plenty of mistakes, but they were simply mistakes, not blunders following a clandestine and unprincipled agenda. And I’ll bet there was corruption, but not the fat kid in a candy store corruption of the last six years.
It really was better then, though at the time, it felt like disaster was around the corner. The difference was the difference between principles and cynicism, between passion and indifference, between service and narcissism.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 189
Was listening to “Open Source” on WGBH last night and the entire program was about Montana politics.
The Republican state senate majority leader was interviewed, and he was saying that Republicans were pushing Burns’ “experience” and “committee memberships” as a means of blunting Tester’s charge, because Montanans have a long history of liking a mix of both Republicans and Dems in the national legislature–their expectation is that that covers the bases–and gives them an advantage in bringing federal dollars back to Montana.
From that, I would gather that the Burns’ people are pushing economics as a way of sidestepping the scandal issues. How that’s playing, I don’t know. None of the program participants would make firm predictions of the outcome.
I like to think you are correct on this.
MarkH @
185
Cristy, thank you for bringing some MAGIC to the discussion, and not better that Kennedy’s inauguration speech. I was fifteen wen he was elected and was this speech that made a family in (Cadiz Spain) to become for ever a Kennedy admirer. That day he talked no just to you Americans but to all universally. With his words he touched the best in each of us. He told the average people that we are the ones with the power, at the same time challenging us to take responsibility for the country (we get the government that we deserve) He dare us to dream
That was his magic
On economics the Republicans are riding a wave established, to some extent, over the previous 45 years. The unemployment rate, for example, has come down consistently with every Democratic president since Kennedy and has fluctuated wildly under every Republican president except Dubya. He took the low unemployment rate he was given and immediately pushed it up to 5.75% and then kept it there. In the late 1980s the economist advisors to the Republican party said we *needed* and unemployment rate of 6% for the economy to work properly. I haven’t heard of any Republican repudiating the idea that 6% of our bretheren MUST be unemployed for the rest of us to do well. I think it’s immoral.
This isn’t a vastly different economy from the one Bill Clinton enjoyed. But, there is a big differrence in how the Republicans in charge have run the government — they’ve run it into debt at a staggering rate and gave tax cuts to rich people who should be paying for all these crazy Bush exploits.
On the economy: Republicans have been irresponsible with the good economy they were given. They drove UP the unemployment rate, dropped “pay as you go” financing of government spending, pushed the government further into debt and refused to give working people a minimum wage increase while giving ridiculous tax cuts to people who don’t need them.
Republicans have been irresponsible with the federal wallet.
Democrats will return to “pay as you go”, begin to rebalance the federal government budgets and give a minimum wage increase to our poorest workers.
cfeddy @ 81
Tell ‘tem if they want to see a revolution, vote in a big Dem majority and wait for the fur to start flying!
This is WAY EPU territory.
I also was born after JFK was gone but I have felt his spirit throughout my life.
My first book report was on PT-109.
Neil Armstrong set foot on the Moon soon after I was born. JFK was the man who inspired America to go to the Moon.
JFK died for what he believed. His brother Robert suffered the same fate. As did Martin Luther King and Malcom X.
Men who inspire Americans to do the right thing also inspire fear in those who would hold power at all costs.
Several years ago there was an older gentleman who lived across the street from me. Nice guy. Tall. Played college basketball for the University of Utah. His wife had passed years earlier and he was suffering from a sort of bone cancer. Terminal. I would watch him pull dandilions from his front lawn and wonder: “you only have months or weeks to live and you’re pulling weeds from your lawn?”
I was increduleous about it. I couldn’t get it out of my mind. Habit I suppose.
During one of my visits with him before he died, I noticed a framed print of JFK hanging on his wall. I inquired about the print and he informed me that he bought the print after Kennedy had been elected. He went on to entertain me tales of being a lifelong Democrat, volunteering on many local Dem campaigns, and of the sorrow he and the Nation had when Kennedy was killed. One of his mottos was: “When in doubt, vote Democrat!”
After he passed away his kids came and had a yard sale when they cleared out his house in preparation to sell it. I bought the JFK print for 50 cents, and would have paid much more. It hangs in my office and I always get comments about the cheezy frame with the lime green velvet liner. Vintage. As in when truth, good government, and a clarion call to service in the name of the public good was in fashion.
Vintage.
Let’s bring back JFK’s vision.
I think Democrats – after winning on November 7 – should run a national ad.
Introduce the members of the new Congress to America – and have each of them say a few lines from the JFK speech.
Have Presidents Carter and Clinton speak the lines about “Can we forge against these enemies a grand and global alliance, North and South, East and West, that can assure a more fruitful life for all mankind? Will you join in that historic effort?
In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger.”
Have Wesley Clark, Jim Webb, and Tammy Duckworth speak the lines, “In your hands, my fellow citizens, more than mine, will rest the final success or failure of our course. Since this country was founded, each generation of Americans has been summoned to give testimony to its national loyalty. The graves of young Americans who answered the call to service surround the globe.”
Have Jon Tester, Scott Kleeb and Pederson speak the lines, “I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it–and the glow from that fire can truly light the world.”
And finally have McGaskill, Wulsin, Pelosi and Sherrod Brown conclude, “And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you–ask what you can do for your country.
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
The point is NEVER stop message-framing. And give the public something immediate to feel hopeful about after casting their votes for Democrats – like a thank you.
I was five when JFK was assasinated and my mom was ironing when we heard the news. I will never forget the national grief so palpable a kindergartner could feel it.
The collective despair after the 2004 election was painful, too, but the tragic reality is that a willfully blind electorate created it.
Christy, I was seventeen years old when Kenneny became President. His speeches inspired all the people around the world especially in the third world countries. But all these admirers were shocked when he was assassinated and I was one of them. Really, he was the greatest president because he inspires people especially his words that says “Ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country.” Actually, I heard this when I was first year college in the Philippines in the ’60s.