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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/31/yes-lets-do-mention-the-war/#comment-358201</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sen. John Kerry may have botched a joke attempt, but it’s George W. Bush who is the real joke…a cruel, harsh joke of a president who invaded Iraq without provocation, an invasion that has gotten hundreds of thousands of people killed or maimed for life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;George W. Bush, a cruel, harsh joke of a president, who joked about not finding any WMD in Iraq, even as our soldiers were dying daily for his “mistake.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. John Kerry may have botched a joke attempt, but it’s George W. Bush who is the real joke…a cruel, harsh joke of a president who invaded Iraq without provocation, an invasion that has gotten hundreds of thousands of people killed or maimed for life.</p>
<p>George W. Bush, a cruel, harsh joke of a president, who joked about not finding any WMD in Iraq, even as our soldiers were dying daily for his “mistake.”</p>
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		<title>By: dlcox1958</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/31/yes-lets-do-mention-the-war/#comment-358190</link>
		<dc:creator>dlcox1958</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I posted these elsewhere and mailed them to the DNC.  I hope that someone is thinking along these lines.  The issue is not dead.  It was on page one of at least two major papers today (NY Times and SF Chronicle) that I know of, Rove was interviewed by CBS news as I heard two hours ago still talking up Kerry as badmouthing the troops.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the dems can do ju jitsu and flip it right back. I am not claiming brilliance here, just urge them to send out good spokespeople now (Dean, Murtha, Pelosi, Reid…) with something like this&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About the joke:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Kerry botched a joke about the President, not the troops.  George W. Bush has botched this war, endangered our troops, and allowed nearly three thousand young americans die in this invasion and occupation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About John Kerry as “party leader”: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Kerry is one senator out of a hundred, and he is not running for office at this time.  If you want to get us unstuck from this war, you need to elect a new democratic majority in the house and senate, because this republican congress is rubber stamping the failed policies of this administration.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About insulting the troops: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Kerry and his democratic colleagues have consistently stood up for the troops, voting for body armor,   veterans benefits, and oversight of this war when the republican congress rubber stamped Bush’s failed policies.  You don’t have to believe me–the non-partisan &lt;a href=&quot;http://iava.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=2089&amp;Itemid=221&quot;&gt;Iraq and Afghan Veterans of America&lt;/a&gt; gave consistently higher ratings to democrats than republicans on supporting troops and vets.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Closer:  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;George W. Bush and his administration are using this distortion of John Kerry’s remarks and record to distract from their failure to lead in this war.  Vote for a democratic majority in congress now to reverse the failed war leadership of the Bush Administration and the rubber stamp republican congress.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted these elsewhere and mailed them to the DNC.  I hope that someone is thinking along these lines.  The issue is not dead.  It was on page one of at least two major papers today (NY Times and SF Chronicle) that I know of, Rove was interviewed by CBS news as I heard two hours ago still talking up Kerry as badmouthing the troops.  </p>
<p>But the dems can do ju jitsu and flip it right back. I am not claiming brilliance here, just urge them to send out good spokespeople now (Dean, Murtha, Pelosi, Reid…) with something like this</p>
<p>About the joke:</p>
<p>John Kerry botched a joke about the President, not the troops.  George W. Bush has botched this war, endangered our troops, and allowed nearly three thousand young americans die in this invasion and occupation.</p>
<p>About John Kerry as “party leader”: </p>
<p>John Kerry is one senator out of a hundred, and he is not running for office at this time.  If you want to get us unstuck from this war, you need to elect a new democratic majority in the house and senate, because this republican congress is rubber stamping the failed policies of this administration.</p>
<p>About insulting the troops: </p>
<p>John Kerry and his democratic colleagues have consistently stood up for the troops, voting for body armor,   veterans benefits, and oversight of this war when the republican congress rubber stamped Bush’s failed policies.  You don’t have to believe me–the non-partisan <a href="http://iava.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=2089&amp;Itemid=221">Iraq and Afghan Veterans of America</a> gave consistently higher ratings to democrats than republicans on supporting troops and vets.</p>
<p>Closer:  </p>
<p>George W. Bush and his administration are using this distortion of John Kerry’s remarks and record to distract from their failure to lead in this war.  Vote for a democratic majority in congress now to reverse the failed war leadership of the Bush Administration and the rubber stamp republican congress.</p>
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		<title>By: C Morehar</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/31/yes-lets-do-mention-the-war/#comment-358182</link>
		<dc:creator>C Morehar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are Democrats idiots or do they just have amnesia?  They are, once again, playing right into the hands of Republicans and their divide and conquer tactics.  Kerry’s response to his critics was strong and persuasive.  Why can’t Democrats stand behind Kerry and respond to Republican critics as forcefully as Kerry did?  Instead, they are distancing themselves from him and making themselves appear, once again, like they just can’t maintain a unified front.  Why can’t they seem to do this, a tactic that Republicans have, for better or worse (…for worse…), almost mastered?  The Foley scandal was not just scandalous, showing just how low Republican morals can sink in the face of power, but it was DIVISIVE, and it showed a fragmented and vulnerable side to their party.  By distancing themselves from Kerry, Democrats are likewise displaying a fragmented front, allowing the manipulative Republican voice to creep into the cracks.  How Kerry responded was strong and resolute.  It was the only time he actually came out and said how Machiavellian, devious, and cowardly Republican war-mongers actually are.  Why can’t Democrats stand behind this message?  Instead, they are splitting at the seams and letting the Republicans, once again, set the nature of debate and discourse.  Democrats, wise up, stand firmly to a united base.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are Democrats idiots or do they just have amnesia?  They are, once again, playing right into the hands of Republicans and their divide and conquer tactics.  Kerry’s response to his critics was strong and persuasive.  Why can’t Democrats stand behind Kerry and respond to Republican critics as forcefully as Kerry did?  Instead, they are distancing themselves from him and making themselves appear, once again, like they just can’t maintain a unified front.  Why can’t they seem to do this, a tactic that Republicans have, for better or worse (…for worse…), almost mastered?  The Foley scandal was not just scandalous, showing just how low Republican morals can sink in the face of power, but it was DIVISIVE, and it showed a fragmented and vulnerable side to their party.  By distancing themselves from Kerry, Democrats are likewise displaying a fragmented front, allowing the manipulative Republican voice to creep into the cracks.  How Kerry responded was strong and resolute.  It was the only time he actually came out and said how Machiavellian, devious, and cowardly Republican war-mongers actually are.  Why can’t Democrats stand behind this message?  Instead, they are splitting at the seams and letting the Republicans, once again, set the nature of debate and discourse.  Democrats, wise up, stand firmly to a united base.</p>
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		<title>By: Salt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/31/yes-lets-do-mention-the-war/#comment-357816</link>
		<dc:creator>Salt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I read this whole blog in search of one intelligent comment. Didn’t find it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope there are no sharp objects near you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, BTW, Kerry’s a dumbass. What he said makes no sense and if it were a joke it is even lamer. Bush has similar educational credentials to…..Kerry! He did not say a word about wisdom and prudence, where he might have made a case. He’s a loser, literally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoy your hatefest. Keep on the sunny side. Love to all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this whole blog in search of one intelligent comment. Didn’t find it.</p>
<p>I hope there are no sharp objects near you.</p>
<p>Oh, BTW, Kerry’s a dumbass. What he said makes no sense and if it were a joke it is even lamer. Bush has similar educational credentials to…..Kerry! He did not say a word about wisdom and prudence, where he might have made a case. He’s a loser, literally.</p>
<p>Enjoy your hatefest. Keep on the sunny side. Love to all.</p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/31/yes-lets-do-mention-the-war/#comment-357714</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 05:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Al Gore had been president, instead of that dumbass George W. Bush, then the 9/11 attacks wouldn’t have happened, and America wouldn’t be stuck in a never-ending war in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) Regarding 9/11, the well-oiled counter-terrorism machine, headed by Richard Clarke, that President Clinton had established, would have continued doing it’s excellent job under President Al Gore, thus leading to the capture of some, if not all, of the al Qaeda pre-9/11 conspirators in the United States. Furthermore, a President Al Gore would have probably followed through on the threat issued by President Bill Clinton to the al Qaeda leadership in Afghanistan, and once the U.S.S. Cole attackers were identified in early 2001, then President Al Gore would have vigorously engaged the right-wing religious enemy, al Qaeda, in Afghanistan…possibly even capturing or killing Osama bin Laden…before 9/11.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) Does anyone think that a President Al Gore would have pulled the stunts and the outright lies that Bush used to start a war in Iraq? Would a President Al Gore have “fixed” the intelligence around a “regime-change” policy involving Iraq? Only a complete fool (or a Republican) would possibly think this. The only way a President Al Gore would have launched an attack against Iraq would have been if Iraq had either attacked us directly or had pulled an al Qaeda and bombed one of our overseas embassies or attacked one of our military assets (like the U.S.S. Cole).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In other words, while Donald Rumsfeld and his insane military plans have been a disaster for our military, and George W. Bush has been a disaster for our “rule of law” democracy, an Al Gore presidency would have saved countless U.S. lives and untold American taxpayer funds.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which, of course, is why Karl rove continues to trot out the Republican talking point that the terrorists win if the Democrats win. The truth is the exact opposite. As long as Republicans keep pulling their dumbass stunts involving our military, our treasury and our diplomacy, the terrorists will keep applauding for the Republicans and secretly praying to Allah that the Republicans will continue stealing even more elections from the Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is obvious after so much time that the best friend the terrorists have in the United States are George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and all their Republican enablers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Al Gore had been president, instead of that dumbass George W. Bush, then the 9/11 attacks wouldn’t have happened, and America wouldn’t be stuck in a never-ending war in Iraq.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>1) Regarding 9/11, the well-oiled counter-terrorism machine, headed by Richard Clarke, that President Clinton had established, would have continued doing it’s excellent job under President Al Gore, thus leading to the capture of some, if not all, of the al Qaeda pre-9/11 conspirators in the United States. Furthermore, a President Al Gore would have probably followed through on the threat issued by President Bill Clinton to the al Qaeda leadership in Afghanistan, and once the U.S.S. Cole attackers were identified in early 2001, then President Al Gore would have vigorously engaged the right-wing religious enemy, al Qaeda, in Afghanistan…possibly even capturing or killing Osama bin Laden…before 9/11.</p>
<p>2) Does anyone think that a President Al Gore would have pulled the stunts and the outright lies that Bush used to start a war in Iraq? Would a President Al Gore have “fixed” the intelligence around a “regime-change” policy involving Iraq? Only a complete fool (or a Republican) would possibly think this. The only way a President Al Gore would have launched an attack against Iraq would have been if Iraq had either attacked us directly or had pulled an al Qaeda and bombed one of our overseas embassies or attacked one of our military assets (like the U.S.S. Cole).</p>
<p>In other words, while Donald Rumsfeld and his insane military plans have been a disaster for our military, and George W. Bush has been a disaster for our “rule of law” democracy, an Al Gore presidency would have saved countless U.S. lives and untold American taxpayer funds.</p>
<p>Which, of course, is why Karl rove continues to trot out the Republican talking point that the terrorists win if the Democrats win. The truth is the exact opposite. As long as Republicans keep pulling their dumbass stunts involving our military, our treasury and our diplomacy, the terrorists will keep applauding for the Republicans and secretly praying to Allah that the Republicans will continue stealing even more elections from the Democrats.</p>
<p>It is obvious after so much time that the best friend the terrorists have in the United States are George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and all their Republican enablers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel Valentin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/31/yes-lets-do-mention-the-war/#comment-357648</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel Valentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-357612&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;spiderpaws @ 169&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;CNN’s Anderson Cooper has just had two or three talking heads on condemning Kerry about his “outburst” and how Kerry is “all about himself”. They really think he will hurt the party talking the truth…wimpy whiners, all of them&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;More like complete and utter wankers, but I think we’d otherwise agree. Christ, who were these clowns, and why wasn’t someone included who could actually say something pro-Dem and anti-Bush? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ok, ok, we all know the answer to that question.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MPV&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-357612"><em>spiderpaws @ 169</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>CNN’s Anderson Cooper has just had two or three talking heads on condemning Kerry about his “outburst” and how Kerry is “all about himself”. They really think he will hurt the party talking the truth…wimpy whiners, all of them</p>
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<p>More like complete and utter wankers, but I think we’d otherwise agree. Christ, who were these clowns, and why wasn’t someone included who could actually say something pro-Dem and anti-Bush? </p>
<p>Ok, ok, we all know the answer to that question.</p>
<p>MPV</p>
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		<title>By: CatStaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>CatStaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-357596&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LJ/Aquaria @ 164 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-357474&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @&lt;br /&gt;
                96              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Where did “pickles” come from?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonder if she ever goes to those sex aids “tupperware” parties.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Believe it or not, “Pickles” is the pet name Dubya gave his wife, long ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s given everybody else a nickname. Why not her, too?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps an affectionate reference to her . . .um . . . er . . . proclivities?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-357596"><em>LJ/Aquaria @ 164 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-357474"><em>rwcole @<br />
                96              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Where did “pickles” come from?</p>
<p>Wonder if she ever goes to those sex aids “tupperware” parties.</p>
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<p>Believe it or not, “Pickles” is the pet name Dubya gave his wife, long ago.</p>
<p>He’s given everybody else a nickname. Why not her, too?</p>
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<p>Perhaps an affectionate reference to her . . .um . . . er . . . proclivities?</p>
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		<title>By: spiderpaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>spiderpaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CNN’s Anderson Cooper has just had two or three talking heads on condemning Kerry about his “outburst” and how Kerry is “all about himself”. They really think he will hurt the party talking the truth…wimpy whiners, all of them&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN’s Anderson Cooper has just had two or three talking heads on condemning Kerry about his “outburst” and how Kerry is “all about himself”. They really think he will hurt the party talking the truth…wimpy whiners, all of them</p>
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		<title>By: ccmask</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/10/31/yes-lets-do-mention-the-war/#comment-357610</link>
		<dc:creator>ccmask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Teddy- I’m glad someone got it :))&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy- I’m glad someone got it :))</p>
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		<title>By: DAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@47, If brown shirts were fashionable Allen’s body guards would be wearing them. Maybe George will declare him a terrorist and disappear him soon. These are the same kind of people that keep free citizens out of Bush campaign rallies. That’s what they all stand for.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@47, If brown shirts were fashionable Allen’s body guards would be wearing them. Maybe George will declare him a terrorist and disappear him soon. These are the same kind of people that keep free citizens out of Bush campaign rallies. That’s what they all stand for.</p>
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